Hi all, I need some help. It always seems when I am busy and think I can quickly add something to the wiki I run into a road block that takes me a lot of time to unravel. Today I was adding some wonderful images of Neomarica from Andrew Harvie to the wiki. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… One of them was a plant called Neomarica longifolia, a yellow flowered species. I didn't have any information about it so started searching for more. I found it listed on The Plant List and in Kew as an accepted species with older synonyms of Marica longifolia, Cipura longifolia and Cypella longifolia. It is also described in the Portuguese document on the genus that we have linked to the Neomarica page. And there are a number of people I found in a Google search growing it. David's new amazing way to search the archives allowed me to look at most of posts over the years on Neomarica from this group. I found a message to this list from Corey Thompson in 2004 saying he had purchased a plant by this name and then found a photo of something that looked just like it in Thad Howard's book that was described as Trimezia martinicensis and asking for help deciding what his plant was, but not receiving any, at least not posted to the list. Then there were posts from Jim Waddick later saying all the yellow ones are now in Trimezia (not a synonym listed by Kew or The Plant List for this species) and a post from Jim Waddick saying that this species also didn't belong in Neomarica according to Alberto Castillo. It is interesting to note that in the Manning and Goldblatt Iris book tribe Trimezieae includes Trimezia, Pseudotrimezia, and Neomarica. Cypella and Cipura are in tribe Tigridieae. And this book emphasizes the strong relationship between Trimezia and Neomarica. But in describing Neomarica it notes that flowers are radially symmetric, fugacious, cream, yellow, or blue so they are at least including yellow flowers in Neomarica. In describing the difference between the two genera, they say that Neomarica is distinguished by its creeping rhizome and broadly winged, leafy flowering stem. I have spent a number of hours on this now and don't have any more time to spend so will leave Andrew Harvie's photo of Neomarica longifolia on the wiki for the moment. It does look a lot like the photos we have of Trimezia martinicensis however. So which authority are we going with. Is it possible that there are two different plants, Neomarica longifolia and Trimezia martinicensis? http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… I wasn't able to keep alive the Trimezia Patty gave me that I have photographed on the wiki. By the way the Plant List also recognizes Trimezia martinicensis with these synonyms: Cipura martinicensis (Jacq.) Kunth Cipura semiaperta Heynh. Ferraria lurida Salisb. Iris martinicensis Jacq. Lansbergia caracasana de Vriese Lansbergia martinicensis (Jacq.) Baker Lansbergia meridensis Klatt Marica martinicensis (Jacq.) Ker Gawl. Poarchon fluminensis Allemão Remaclea funebris C.Morren Sisyrinchium fluminense Vell.s Trimezia caracasana (de Vriese) Benth. & Hook.f. ex B.D.Jacks. Trimezia lurida (Salisb.) Salisb. [Illegitimate] Trimezia meridensis Herb. Tritonia riparia Cordem. Vieusseuxia martinicensis (Jacq.) DC. Xanthocromyon herbertii H.Karst. Obviously there has been some confusion over the years with this one. I am including the list so you can see that there is not a Neomarica in the lot. From reading most of the Neomarica posts to this list from the past I see I entreated people to help us illustrate these plants with more pictures of the plants, leaves, flowering stems, etc. But we still have mostly flower pictures on the wiki. The flowers are beautiful and it is wonderful to have them illustrated. A lot of the flowers are very similar however and having photos to show more of the identifying features would be really helpful. The photo from David Ehrlich of N. northiana is a good example of such a photo. I found a lot of text about growing these when I searched the archives, but don't have time at the moment to condense it and add it to the wiki. People note from time to time that this and that is missing from the wiki and/or it would be really helpful to have additional information of various kinds on the wiki. All of the work on the wiki is done by volunteers. We are very happy to be building this global resource, but there needs to be more help if some of these things people would like to see on the wiki are going to included. A number of people said they would like to be of help. Anyone want to volunteer to write up something about growing Neomarica and send it to me so I can add it to the wiki? There is a lot of good information in the archives. Also I hope Lee will add to the wiki when he has time the Neomarica species he said he was growing in the archves, N. sabini, we don't have pictured. Mary Sue