Love Pineillia! I have some P. pedatisecta, but unfortunately it's not a thug for me - wish it was - love them! What I collected is not the same plant, though - my plants are mature. I actually have a photograph of them on a site that I sell on. If it's okay with you guys, I will provide the link, and you guys can tell me what you think it is? It is, by no means, a good photo :) Best, Jude