As a small retail mail order nursery for some 20 years, I have to say the Ellen has a good take on what nurseries are about. I have given a lot of thought to what, when and how I ship, because I have serious limits. And yes, I think about options, but I'm constrained by several factors, including size, cost of shipping, ease of growing, etc. We all have limits and we've learned to set them firmly in order to stay in business and, at the same time, have a life. I really don't do much trading as I find that not everyone understands the condition a plant has to be in to survive a trade, i.e. have roots, tolerate some desiccation, and so on. That said, a plea for a particular plant reverbrates pretty far and wide and I think most of us will succeed in acquiring what we lust for, if we have some patience, and keep letting folks know what we desperately want. Been there... and achieved my heart's desire - just took time! Good luck, Robin Hansen Hansen Nursery