On 31 Oct 2011, at 22:48, bulborum botanicum wrote: > Is there somebody on the forum who knows other crocus where you can use the > stigma from as saffron > > I know the Roman tried Crocus nudiflorus As do the Pennsylvania Dutch farmers. I've read that they grow a clump of C. nudiflorus by the back entrance to the house and urinate on it from time to time to keep in it good heart. And that large clumps of C. nudiflorus sell at auction for a surprisingly good price. The account may be in Brian Mathews' "The Crocus". -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada