I just noticed the first few flakes of snow of this season drifting down outdoors. We have not yet had a killing frost this fall, and the snow is not going to stick, even if it amounts to more than a few random flakes. But still, I'm really not psychologically ready for snow yet this winter! Flowering is very thin in the greenhouses just now. I noticed a scape on Clivia robusta "Maxima" yesterday, and the flowers on last week's Nerine sarniensis hybrids have not yet faded. Haemanthus albiflos still has a few umbels in bloom as well. There are a couple blooms on Caliphruria korsakoffii and Cryptostephanus vansonii as well. Outdoors the other day, I saw a few flowers of Crocus cartwrightianus in bloom as well. I had feared they were going to skip blooming this year. I need to check the Lycrois and see if there are any ripe seeds on chinensis or longituba, if the sun comes out. Jim ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W