Amarygia progress

Fri, 30 Sep 2011 15:49:47 PDT

Hey Mike!
To answer your first question ... YES ... all TINY seeds ... all of what I believe to be hybrids from my own 2005 cross between X A.belladonnas (seed parents ... themselves likely F2 hybrids, given to me by the late Wayne Roderick in the 90s) and B.josephinae (pollen parent - the product of seed from Wayne's B.josephinae plant in 1995.) 
That is not to say only tiny seed was produced ... there were also larger/normal sized seed in the same pods.  Based on previous accounts by Jim Lycos, 2003, posted via PBS at:…
that the tiny seeds were likely indications of a successful cross ...  I disposed* of the larger seeds and grew-on only the tiny seeds.  Many of these seem to struggle.  I selected ... perhaps babied is a better term ... only those seedlings which displayed bluish-green foliage, ie, midway between the green foliage of A.belladonna and the blue-grey-green foliage of B.josephinae.   There were seedlings with bright green foliage but I weeded them out for the most part.    I've had 3 blooms this year from the remaining group (now 6 years old) ... 2 of which appear to have the ordinary X Amarygia flowers and the most recent bloom which definitely displays some B.josephinae heritage.   
*With respect to the larger seeds, when I say 'disposed'  ... I actually clandestinely spread them one early Sunday morning, commando-style, along a local un-manicured roadway in hopes there would eventually be scattered blooms of X A.belladonna rising one late summer along the roadway.  I did this 3 years in a row and noticed successful germination and growth ... but my efforts were spoiled 2 years ago when the city sprayed to control weeds! <:-(    The round-up pretty much killed everything growing at the time, including the little winter-growing bulbs.
I've also had two different seed-grown X A.belladonnas that display twisted tepals ... the result of crossing F2 hybrids given to me by Wayne.… 
This year, I have back crossed each of them to see what I get.   I suspect that some Brunsvigia genes are carried forward with each cross.  I guess we need somebody to sequence the DNA on these things! 
Ken Blackford
San Diego 

--- On Thu, 9/29/11, Michael Mace <> wrote:

I was interested by the photo you posted of one of the siblings to that
flower, which looks a lot like a typical Amaryllis hybrid:…

Do you remember if this came from one of the tiny seeds that you sometimes
get from Amarygia crosses, or a larger seed?  I'm wondering if the seed
size/color corresponds to the type of flower you get.

I got flowers this fall from some hybrids of B. josephinae and a Les
Hannibal Amaryllis.  They looked a lot like the typical Hannibal Amaryllis,
so I thought the seedlings must have been apomictic or an accidental cross
from some Amaryllis pollen that blew in.  But seeing your sibling photo, I'm
starting to wonder if I did get a real cross that just doesn't express a lot
of josephinae characteristics.  In particular, there's one plant that has
flowers with strangely twisted tepals.  You can see it here:…

Or maybe it's just a Hannibal hybrid with twisted tepals.  I'd appreciate
comments from more knowledgeable growers than me.

San Jose, CA

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