Including the previous message/Digest choices

Robin Carrier
Wed, 01 Feb 2012 05:43:09 PST
i thought this was a bulb soceity - and you brought up what it means -  a 
bugger is a sodomite
try more avoidence.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "steven hart" <>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Including the previous message/Digest choices

> While i wait for my nut labels to print for work, thought i would quickly
> see what is happening here :)
> Your very right Peter.....
> Oops, Bugger that was me...... Oops is another one & means i made a little
> mistake......
> To any of you left wondering....
> Bugger is regularly used in conversation in Australia, but certainly
> depends on the sentence as to what it means..... The old oxford
> dictionary gives it a terrible meaning, which no body has used for 
> hundreds
> of years so it should be removed, & not to be mentioned here by any means
> please....
> Bugger is recognised in many Australian dictionaries or slang 
> dictionaries,
> we don't normally use abbreviations like "Afaik " in Australia but our
> whole language base seems to include a lot of slang words in conversation,
> so many in fact that most people would no longer know which ones are slang
> & which ones are true dictionary meanings, many are being added to
> dictionaries, it makes it confusing for outsiders for sure !
> In normal conversations in Australia bugger is used all the time & i 
> wonder
> when the meaning changed, & why ?  It is usually used with the 
> terminology,
> ( O my goodness i buggered that up ! ) "The understood meaning for all
> Australians is - " I made a silly mistake "
> (What a bugger) can be used like "i wish that had not happened" (Don't
> bugger it up ) "don't break that thing" (You bugger) i'm not sure i can 
> get
> this one but its used a lot & finally (Bugger off) "Go away"
> Quite funny really no wonder people are confused by us Australians.... I
> sometimes wonder if our convict roots played a roll in language changes as
> the English deported large numbers of uneducated men & women, most only
> guilty of steeling a loaf of bread through forced starvation, or similar
> minor offences......Many of them couldn't even spell their names & that is
> why so many names changed here on arrival to the convict colonies.....
> Steven
> Esk Queensland Australia
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Peter Taggart 
> <>wrote:
>> I try to avoid abbreviations, swearing, compressions and figures of
>> speech.
>> While perfectly understandable to me, I hate to think what a translation
>> into Hungarian or Polish of the words "bugger" or "doofuses" might be.
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