Hi Dennis I got both the Sarracenia and Dionaea seeds from the SX. I planted them and refrigerated for 3 months. Both germinated last month: 2 fly traps and 3 pitcher plants. How about some seed from the species?? Aloha! David Boucher Hawaii -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Kramb <email@example.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Mon, May 7, 2012 4:34 am Subject: [pbs] Sarracenia (and Iris) My Sarracenia are absolutely flourishing. I've had them now for just over 2 years, since constructing the bog bed in Feb. 2010. Sarracenia flava var. rugellii was the first to bloom, starting in late April. Sarracenia leucophylla is just now sending up bloom stalks. Oh, and the pitchers are also finally opening too. (I hope they don't catch their pollinators!) I'm curious if anyone who obtained my Sarracenia seeds from the BX last year has had any germination yet? I haven't looked carefully, but I didn't notice any Dionaea or Drosera when I casually inspected the bed over the weekend. It's possible they've died out (or are just being overcrowded). Dennis in Cincinnati PS: To my surprise both Iris fulva and Iris tridentata are THRIVING in the nutrient poor bog bed alongside the Sarracenia. Iris fulva just started blooming.