Sternbergia

Jadeboy48@aol.com Jadeboy48@aol.com
Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:18:43 PDT
Dear Shmuel, I hope very much that you can collect Sternbergia seed, there  
seems to be two different varieties available. One is sterile and does not  
produce seed, the other (which looks just like it) is fertile and produces 
seed.  When you   collect the seed please look to see if there is anything  
that looks like a seed or bulb growing maybe on a stem or leave base. Some  
plants put out tiny bulbs to reproduce  if they don't produce seed. Many  
lilies do this. Thanks for your help-Russ H.
PS: Yes here in the USA Sternbergia blooms in the fall,it has a golden  
color. I also work with Iris from desert areas. I would gladly buy any seed 
from  iris you can collect. Just note size of plant, any trace of flower color 
and any  details about the seed source plant. Thanks Russ Hintz, email is  
jadeboy48@aol.com
 
 
In a message dated 4/4/2013 11:56:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
gardenbetter@gmail.com writes:

Am I  mistaken? Sternbergia lutea here is an autumn bloomer. It is native
herein  Israel and I will be on the lookout for seed.  I wonder if the ones
I  planted are actually from native stock or if they made the "great  circle
route" and are imported by the nursery trade from  Holland?

Shmuel Silinsky
Jerusalem Israel
zone 9, winter rain -  dry summer


On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:34 AM,  <Jadeboy48@aol.com> wrote:

> Dear Jim ,Thanks for your  information. I am very familiar when you have a
> self sterility problem  with certain flowers. As a retired grower once I
> know once other  growers find a clone of something that grows well and has
>   some
> good qualities growers will just multiply that clone.The problem  is 
losing
> genetic diversity. One disease can wipe out a susceptible  clone and then 
it
> is  gone, maybe forever.-Russ  H.
>
>
> In a message dated 3/29/2013 5:48:40 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
> jshields@indy.net writes:
>
> Another   possibility is that we are seeing one single clone making up the
>  commercial stock of Sternbergia.  It is probably self-sterile, as   many
> other plants in the Amaryllidaceae are.  All you might need  to  get seeds
> would be some live pollen from a different clone of  the same  species.
>
> Another problem is that S. lutea  occurs as triploid (2n = 3x =  33) as 
well
> as the diploid (2n =  22) form.  Triploids are usually  sterile.   See:
>  http://cites.com/
>
>  
http://bulbs.myspecies.info/content/…
>
>  I  would guess that you will have to find seeds of the diploid form,  
from
> one  of the seed exchanges or from someone like the  Archibalds.  Good
>  luck!
>
> Jim  Shields
>
>
>
>
> At 08:23 PM 3/29/2013 +1300,  you  wrote:
> >Russ, Sternbergia does not set seed.  It is  something to do  with diploi
d
> >or whatever.  Do you have  one which does set seed, as  there is a seed
> >setting  one.  But the most often grown one does  not set  seed.
>  >
> >Ina
>
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