Cardamine hirsuta

Colleen silkie@frontiernet.net
Thu, 04 Apr 2013 10:54:36 PDT
Jadeboy,

Originally the chemicals were developed for use in the war.  When the war
was over, the developing companies just found new uses.  Of course many
others have been developed since that time.

Colleen

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Subject: Re: [pbs] Cardamine hirsuta

I hate to say this but the Roundup question is getting annoying. Lets make
it easy. If you want to kill weedy plants by non chemical means go ahead and
do  it. But I really don't care to hear about chemical sprays on a never
ending  basis. On the contrary  complaining about chemicals in the
enviroment is a  waste of time.We all know they are there but if you think
you can shut down a  major chemical company, good luck. These pesticides
were developed after WW2.  One goal was to produce more food for developing
countries to feed it's  citizens. In the us farmers were shown by the
chemical company how they could  increase production and make more money.
Food growing areas of the world have  been saturated with pesticides, It is
too late after50+ years to get farmers not  to use these products. So while
we may not like the situation you cannot change  it.From my latest
agriculture reading bananas are the most heavily treated food crop. I think
each of us can do our  best by severely limiting the amount of pesticides we
use in our gardens.Get rid  of those old chemicals at a site set up to
handle them. Don't dump the  
chemicals in garbage dumps or just anywhere!  Russ  H.

  In a message dated 4/3/2013 3:45:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
christian.lachaud@gmail.com writes:
 
Alberto,

Sure, this would be interesting.
You have  mentionned GM soy engineered for roundup.
Have you ever heard about any GMO  which seeds would get activated by
roundup ?
In the case of Cardamine  hirsuta, the seed is so tiny that it may be more
exposed to environemental  chemicals than bigger seeds ?

But if such GMOs do exist, one will need  to understand if it was possible
that Cardamine got polluted by the roundup  genes ?
If it is not genetic pollution, then what is it ?

Has anyone  ever observed this phenomenon somewhere else or is it my local
strain of  Cardamine only, and I'm so lucky ?


*Dr. Christian M. Lachaud,  PhD*
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