Hi all, I am well into my Crinum bulbispermum bloom season here in central Indiana. The plants even grow out in the open field. I tried C. "Sunbonnet" and C. "Super Ellen" out in the open garden a couple years ago. The 'Sunbonnet" never came up. The 'Super Ellen" came up and bloomed the following year, but is not there this year. C. 'Ellen Bosanquet" did not survive outdoors, no even right up against the south wall of my greenhouse. I agree that C. x-powellii are barely worth growing. The white powellii are marginally better than the pink ones. C. bulbispermum and especially C. variabile are just as hardy if not more so, and look much much better than x-powellii when in bloom. The best for hardy outdoors crinums in my climate are the hybrid, Crinum [variabile x bulbispermum]. Jim Shields ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W