Hi All, That looks like a pretty good list to me! I would add to that list, for regions where they are hardy outdoors, Haemanthus deformis and Haemanthus pauculifolius. H. deformis needs fairly deep shade, while pauculifolius at least tolerates moderate shade. Proiphys cunninhamii and amboinensis seem to do OK in my shade house in summer. Clivia, if allowed honorary bulb-ship, take shade of course. Besides miniata, I think gardenii and robusta need shade. Caulescens and nobilis tolerate more sun, but certainly survive in shade. Hymenocallis: I think H. occidentalis (a.k.a. "caroliniana") needs partial shade. I grow H. eucharidifolia in moderate shade in a lath house. Most of the others I know about grow well in full sun; whether they will tolerate light shade, I have not tested. Jim Shields ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W