Richard: I have found that seed that is more than a year old is very difficult to germinate. I germinate all my seed in the refrigerator, putting it in vermiculite in plastic bags and leaving it there until I see signs of germination, usually about three months. The easiest Erythronium for me is E. multiscapoideum. It seems to tolerate a wider range of growing conditions, and is more tolerant of warmer weather than the others. It grows in regions that have blistering summers, but it does grow deep, and it is also the first one to emerge, way ahead of E. oregonum and E. revolutum. E. revolutum has been the most difficult for me, even though it grows locally (or so I am told, I have never found any!). Lilium kelloggii grows locally too, and I can't grow that either. I don't think any of these do well in pots. I have had raised beds made for them, and they are doing well in them. Diana Telos Rare Bulbs http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/ > I'm happy for you. I have been trying to germinate seed for several years > now with nary a one. I thought that perhaps my winters were too warm so the > last batch spent a few months in the refrigerator at 40 degrees F. Still > nothing. Any Pointers? > > Richard Wagner > Vista CA > >