What zone are you in Aaron? I have well draining soil, and no problem growing them. We are fairly humid. Rain most of the year, although more in winter. Ina Crossley Auckland New Zealand zone 10a On 25/02/2014 7:44 a.m., aaron floden wrote: > Many proved to be quite cold hardy, but none appreciated the summers when they would usually rot out. If anyone has found some to grow differently in the hot and humid southeast then I would like know.