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On Jan 9, 2014 9:51 AM, "fastonetime" <fastonetime@yahoo.com> wrote: > Stop emailing me this shit you fucking Nigger > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > -------- Original message -------- > From: pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > http://date.com:1/09/2014/ 9:00 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 132, Issue 12 > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Crinum americanum seed (Kipp McMichael) > 2. Zephyranthes in southern Baja California - request for ID > (Gastil Gastil-Buhl) > 3. Zephyranthes in southern Baja California - request for ID > (James SHIELDS) > 4. Re: Massonia that's blooming (Leo A. Martin) > 5. Re: Massonia that's blooming (Kipp McMichael) > 6. Re: Massonia that's blooming (Karl Church) > 7. Re: Massonia that's blooming (Karl Church) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 15:20:51 -0800 > From: Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum americanum seed > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <BLU168-W9319FADD5F79F1955D8EE4CCB10@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Greetings, > > I have returned from Florida with a few dozen Crinum americanum seeds > (with collection data!) I'll send them off to Dell tomorrow. The seeds are > very large (strawberry-sized) and various levels of freshness - from pods > that were just starting to decompose to seeds from thoroughly dried pods > plus a few shriveled seeds with bulbils attached. > > I actually made two separate collections. The larger collection was of > seeds from plants in a roadside ditch in Collier County, FL. Various plants > were in all stages - from bloom to ripened seed pods - so the ID for these > is quite certain. As a bonus at this site, the dryer area behind the ditch > had Hymenocallis sp in bloom as well (but no seeds of these). > > The smaller collection actually preceded the larger collection and was > from a Mangrove key at the edge of the Gulf of Mexico. The site was the > dry, sandy "upland" of the island about 2-3 feet above sea level. The bulbs > here were set much deeper and none were in-bloom. I initially took the > plants for some other amaryllid since they have only a few live leaves - > but once I found a shriveled seeds with bulbils attached the id resolved to > C. americanum (it also made sense later when I discovered how common the > species was upstream of these islands in wetlands that drain toward the > Gulf). > > I'll be sending the seeds and bulbils to Dell tomorrow. > > -|<ipp > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 15:36:42 -0800 > From: Gastil Gastil-Buhl <gastil.buhl@gmail.com> > Subject: [pbs] Zephyranthes in southern Baja California - request for > ID > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <483AA4FC-AA34-4266-B524-992B05EC0D99@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Jos? Luis Le?n de la Luz, an investigator from CIBNOR, has found a > Zephranthes in the southern Baja California peninsula which does not > resemble the species described for that location. He asks if it might be > recognized. > > A photo of the unidentified Zephyranthes is posted on the mystery bulbs > page > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > Also a photo of Z. arenicola is posted for comparison. The unidentified > one does not match with Z. longifolia, which is reported as a second > species in Baja California. > > Please respond to this list, or the comment form on the mystery bulb page. > > - Gastil > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 18:50:21 -0500 > From: James SHIELDS <jshields46074@gmail.com> > Subject: [pbs] Zephyranthes in southern Baja California - request for > ID > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <CAPSFtJBpSs1Prqw9GGe1hKfuFP4UKSH3kTFCS1805vEQpxWT=A@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > It would help to have measurements (in mm and cm) for the parts of the > flowers, the peduncle, the pedicel, and the spathe bract. Images of the > leaves would also aid. > > Jim Shields > > > At 06:36 PM 1/8/2014, you wrote: > Jos? Luis Le?n de la Luz, an investigator from CIBNOR, has found a > Zephranthes in the southern Baja California peninsula which does not > resemble the species described for that location. He asks if it might be > recognized. > > A photo of the unidentified Zephyranthes is posted on the mystery bulbs > page > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > Also a photo of Z. arenicola is posted for comparison. The unidentified one > does not match with Z. longifolia, which is reported as a second species in > Baja California. > > Please respond to this list, or the comment form on the mystery bulb page. > > - Gastil > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > -- > James Shields jshields46074@gmail.com > P.O. Box 92 > Westfield, IN 46074 > U.S.A. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 17:01:58 -0800 (PST) > From: "Leo A. Martin" <leo@possi.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Massonia that's blooming > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <6c40f4050046dc0b5f8d9b3c92310ee7.squirrel@http://www.possi.org/> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Karl wrote > > > ...our nights have been below freezing for the last month > > & I haven't seen anything to make me think that's going > > to change for several more weeks. Will it tolerate those > > kind of temps? Our days are quite nice being 55-65 ?F. > > You don't say how low... I haven't grown M. sp. Vleesbei but I've grown an > assortment of > other species, hybrids and unknowns. None, adults nor seedlings, has been > damaged by > overnight temperatures into the mid teens F / -9 or -10C. It always gets > well above > freezing here the next day. I will come out in the morning and the leaves > will be frozen > like icicles or thin sheets of ice. I have to be careful not to fracture > them. They thaw > out and act like nothing happened. Perhaps don't put all your plants out > this winter but > try it with a few. I have learned from Massonia whose pots broke that they > can be moved > easily while in active growth if a little care be taken. > > And to all of you growing Massonia in 3/4 inch / 2cm diameter pots: Most > of these are > large plants that look so much better in large containers or in the > ground, if you have > space and the proper climate. Some species can make leaves as large as > salad or dinner > plates. I use "1 gallon" US nursery containers for each bulb. The leaves > grow far past > the rim. > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 17:11:36 -0800 > From: Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Massonia that's blooming > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <BLU168-W1017C3192475C2D23F6B3A9CCB00@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Greetings, > > I can second Leo's comment that Massonia of various species - > particularly M. pustulata - can withstand temps well below freezing > unphased. We recently had record-setting cold here in Berkeley and, with > radiation frost adding to the heat-loss, seedling pots I had in my backyard > reached temps below 25F with no damage to the seedlings. Adults in a > slightly colder situation also showed no damage. One thing I did notice, > however, was that bulbs that had been moved and showed some sun-burn damage > before the cold did show leaf damage from the freeze. These same plants > were unphased by similar temps last winter, so I think the sun-damaged > tissue was less frost-tolerant. That said, I might wait until next winter > to test your own bulbs outside unless you can be certain the move won't > cause any sun damage to the leaves that might make them more prone to frost > damage. > > -|<ipp > > > None, adults nor seedlings, has been damaged by > > overnight temperatures into the mid teens F / -9 or -10C. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 18:32:42 -0800 > From: Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Massonia that's blooming > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <CAGquAQibfGY+PzuuccufoRajthc0A9RJ88cMvt0Spjuxc4UhDA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks Leo > They temps lately have been just below freezing so I will put it outside on > my south facing front porch where it will get direct sunlight all day. > > Karl > On Jan 8, 2014 5:02 PM, "Leo A. Martin" <leo@possi.org> wrote: > > > Karl wrote > > > > > ...our nights have been below freezing for the last month > > > & I haven't seen anything to make me think that's going > > > to change for several more weeks. Will it tolerate those > > > kind of temps? Our days are quite nice being 55-65 ?F. > > > > You don't say how low... I haven't grown M. sp. Vleesbei but I've grown > an > > assortment of > > other species, hybrids and unknowns. None, adults nor seedlings, has been > > damaged by > > overnight temperatures into the mid teens F / -9 or -10C. It always gets > > well above > > freezing here the next day. I will come out in the morning and the leaves > > will be frozen > > like icicles or thin sheets of ice. I have to be careful not to fracture > > them. They thaw > > out and act like nothing happened. Perhaps don't put all your plants out > > this winter but > > try it with a few. I have learned from Massonia whose pots broke that > they > > can be moved > > easily while in active growth if a little care be taken. > > > > And to all of you growing Massonia in 3/4 inch / 2cm diameter pots: Most > > of these are > > large plants that look so much better in large containers or in the > > ground, if you have > > space and the proper climate. Some species can make leaves as large as > > salad or dinner > > plates. I use "1 gallon" US nursery containers for each bulb. The leaves > > grow far past > > the rim. > > > > Leo Martin > > Phoenix Arizona USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 18:36:18 -0800 > From: Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Massonia that's blooming > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: > <CAGquAQjZDSh4TV9T38TRjw63mAVp3_Fd_LqhHE1wbXE4+hq5sw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks Kipp for your comments. I'll be put this plant outside on a south > facing porch where it can get direct sunlight all day. > > Karl > On Jan 8, 2014 5:12 PM, "Kipp McMichael" <kimcmich@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > I can second Leo's comment that Massonia of various species - > > particularly M. pustulata - can withstand temps well below freezing > > unphased. We recently had record-setting cold here in Berkeley and, with > > radiation frost adding to the heat-loss, seedling pots I had in my > backyard > > reached temps below 25F with no damage to the seedlings. Adults in a > > slightly colder situation also showed no damage. One thing I did notice, > > however, was that bulbs that had been moved and showed some sun-burn > damage > > before the cold did show leaf damage from the freeze. These same plants > > were unphased by similar temps last winter, so I think the sun-damaged > > tissue was less frost-tolerant. That said, I might wait until next winter > > to test your own bulbs outside unless you can be certain the move won't > > cause any sun damage to the leaves that might make them more prone to > frost > > damage. > > > > -|<ipp > > > > > None, adults nor seedlings, has been damaged by > > > overnight temperatures into the mid teens F / -9 or -10C. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 132, Issue 12 > ************************************ > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/