Smoke-water and bulb growth

John Wickham
Sun, 05 Jan 2014 09:06:51 PST
There is a smoke paper available that is specially designed for this purpose. That might be the safest product to use in these circumstances.

For mature bulbs, has anyone used charate? That might be a more appropriate amendment in these circumstances.

Have there been any horticultural trials on this? Its a very intriguing concept.

 From: Randall P. Linke <>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <> 
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Smoke-water and bulb growth

James wrote:

"Thank you for your information.
I will apply smoke liquid for other seeds, too."

I would exercise some caution here.  In addition to ensuring that your
compound does not contain acetic acid, smoke has been found to inhibit
germination of some seeds, even those from fire prone Mediterranean
climates.  If you have enough seed to plant two lots, one treated and one
not, then you can experiment if no information is available.

In my nursery I used "Wrights hickory smoke concentrate", which contains
only water and smoke concentrate, diluted to to 1 part concentrate to 9
parts water.  I soaked seeds in this for 8 to 12 hours and improved
germination for some species from 0-10% to 60-90%.

Seattle, WA

On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Eugene Zielinski <>wrote:

> I'm a latecomer to this discussion, but here goes...
> I'm assuming that the smoke-water that Diane is talking about is just that,
> water impregnated with smoke.  There are other products that go by the name
> of liquid smoke.  These contain a good quantity of acetic acid (vinegar)
> which may not be good for seed or bulb growth.  So... it may be best to
> check the ingredients list on the bottle before making your purchase.
> Eugene Zielinski
> Prescott Valley, AZ
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Diane Whitehead <>
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <>
> > Date: 1/2/2014 7:50:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Smoke-water and bulb growth
> >
> > I buy a bottle of 'smoke' from the grocery store and dilute it.  My
> current bottle is mesquite-flavoured.
> >
> > Diane Whitehead
> >
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