Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:42:47 PST
Hmmm.  Self-selecting bias perhaps.  The bigger picture tends to tell a
different story about the herbicides and pesticides of our youth.  Also,
take a look at the birth defects in SW Oregon from the aerial spraying of


-----Original Message-----
From: pbs [] On Behalf Of Karl Church
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 8:54 AM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] GMOs

If you are a "boomer" as I am, you ate far worse herbicides & pesticides
than Roundup in your youth. If you're still alive & healthy the long term
effects must not be as bad as predicted by the emotionally motivated.
Humans have been genetically manipulating both plants & animals for
centuries for better or worse. As our technology has progressed so has the
level & variety of that manipulation. Only time will tell if we did
ourselves in with the changes we have produced.

Karl Church
Dinuba, CA
zone 9b
On Nov 14, 2014 8:00 AM, "richard" <> wrote:

> I believe that the worst problem with GMO treated food crops is that 
> they come to your table with residual pesticides (roundup) and their 
> by products.
> I do not want to eat roundup!
> Richard
> Vista, CA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pbs [] On Behalf Of T O
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: [pbs] GMOs
> The problem with GMOs is absolutely the plants themselves, when they 
> have pesticides built into their genes which have the unwanted effects 
> of killing the micro fauna in the soil. "Round-up ready" is no better, 
> facilitating the use of much herbicide.  Monocrops in general displace 
> enormous plots of land which was once home to thousands of species, 
> including geophytes.  Bottom line is the crops destroy biodiversity 
> all around them.
>  If a company can cross genes so unrelated, why couldn't they have 
> made them pollen sterile? That would solve two problems. One to 
> prevent contamination of organic growers crops and two to prevent seed 
> formation, which they don't allow anyway due to the utility patents.  
> Organic seed growers are required to have their crops tested yearly 
> for the presence of GMOs, out of pocket.
> See for some 
> highly interesting essays on utility patents, GMO sugar beets, and common
> That being said, there are only a few ornamental GMOs that I'm aware 
> of (glow in the dark houseplants, blue rose attempts) and I'm sure 
> they are grown with tissue culture, so I doubt their affect on the 
> environment is as severe.
> -Travis
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