As for crossing clivia with other genera, when I did a search on the net to see what at least one source says fits in the clade with clivia, it turns out that it is more related to Gethyllis than to Hippeastrum or Crinum. I am not sure what to make of it in terms of accuracy but I am cutting and pasting the info below. It would seem intergeneric crosses should be tried with the related genera, and surely embryo rescue would need to be done if any fertile embryos did result. Gethyllideae Dumort., Anal. Fam. Plant.: 58. 1829 6/c 80. Clivia (5; South Africa, Swaziland), Cryptostephanus (5; tropical Africa), Scadoxus (9; tropical and southern Africa), Haemanthus (22; southern Africa, with their highest diversity in Namaqualand and Western Cape), Apodolirion (6; South Africa, Swaziland), Gethyllis (32; Namibia, Northern, Western and Eastern Cape, Free State, North-West). – Tropical and southern Africa (with their largest diversity in South Africa). Sometimes with rhizome. Rhizoderm one-layered. Velamen absent. Peduncle without sclerenchyma cylinder. Subepidermal collenchyma present. Inflorescence bracts usually connate. Gethyllis has up to 18 stamens. Fruit a berry. Seeds angular. Phytomelan usually absent. n = 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14. Alkaloids absent in Gethyllis. Ernie DeMarie In still snow covered NY where some is melting today but more is on its way tomorrow. School was closed again (a 2 hour delay would have been sufficient I think but they said some roads were still icy) and I am pretty sure tomorrow will also be a snow day. All I can do is sow seeds and dream of summer. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/