Seeds of Lilium ledebourii for sale

Gordon Hogenson
Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:35:38 PST
It may be restricted in certain countries to export. I haven't been able to answer that question-- the Iran customs site I found says ALL "plant and plant products" are prohibited.  AFAIK the only countries it is native to are Azerbaijan and Iran.
There's also the question of sanctions, and I have no idea about this, but those are now expected be lifted.
FWIW, I was able to import a small amount of seed of L. ledebourii last year from a seed exchange in the U.K. with a U.S. APHIS permit, so I'm pretty confident it was not restricted by international rules.
For the donor or possible seller of wild-collected seed of rare plants, you could also comment on any conservation work or collection guidelines you are doing with the populations you have access to. Some in the U.S. are promoting a limited collection guideline for such rare (but not officially endangered) lilies such as Lilium parryi. See for example, the following:…
The guidelines published there try to ensure that each individual lily is not deprived of a reasonable chance to reproduce, and that plenty of seed is available to start new plants.
The lemon lily was once very widespread and common.  Most of us are aware to varying degrees that in addition to horticultural collection of bulbs for the international bulb trade, and casual picking of flowers, wild lilies everywhere have declined due to grazing animals, cultivation of land, and subsequent fragmentation of habitat and isolation and inbreeding of remaining populations.
I've heard accounts of some seed collectors deliberately "planting" some seeds in suitable areas in the wild, helping to expand the natural population.  This might not be legal for species that are regulated, I don't know...
But, international seed exchanges routinely trade rare seeds collected from the wild, and in fact NARGS encourages its members to hike up into areas where wildflowers are growing and collect seed responsibly and contributing it to the seed exchange.
Of course, if we are trading seed of cultivated specimens, a lot of the ethical questions are much more clear.  At the same time, cultivated populations benefit from genetic diversity and new infusions of wild genetics.
Gordon HogensonWashington State, USA, zone 7
       From: L. Cortopassi - G. Corazza <>
 To: Pacific Bulb Society <> 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [pbs] Seeds of Lilium ledebourii for sale
Iris ledebourii is not in CITES Appendices. I do not know if it is
protected locally.
This doesn't mean it is not endangered as many plants are at risk of
extinction and have no legal protection.
Even if collecting seeds/plants is allowed by law one must always evaluate
if it is actually possible.

Gianluca Corazza
Italy, Z9b

2015-11-17 22:12 GMT+01:00 Robin Graham Bell <>:

> I have to agree with Mohammad, Altho I didn't parse every word or comment
> my impression at the end was that Lilium ledebouri is not restricted. Can
> anyone who actually knows, for sure, please let me know? Yes or No is fine
> I don't want to prolong or reinitiate discussion. I would like to try the
> seeds if OK & I have the tedious import permit.
>        Thank You
>        Robin Bell.
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Mohammad Sadegh wrote:
> > At the end of this discussion i don't understand what was happen :D
> >
> >  Mohammad SadeghArdabil ,Iran
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> >    On Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:57 PM, Gordon Hogenson <
>> wrote:
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> >
> > Hi Mohammed,
> > Thanks for your offer.  I do not think there is any restriction on me to
> import the seed from you with the appropriate permit, which I have.  Have
> you sent seeds to the U.S. before?
> > I am interested in your seeds of this species.  Can you comment on your
> efforts to preserve the wild plants?  I would be happy to know that the
> seeds you are making available were collected in a way that doesn't pose a
> threat to the plants' ability to thrive and propagate in the wild.
> > This is a wonderful species. I am in the Pacific Northwest of the United
> States in the beautiful state of Washington.  Of course here the climatic
> conditions might be quite different from what this lily is used to.  In the
> mountains where this grows, what is the climate like?  I have heard that
> this lily has a long growing season.
> > Gordon
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> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 8:46 PM
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> >
> > Hello
> > We have seeds of rare Lilium species , Lilium Ledebourii .This is a rare
> Lilium species ,if you are interested you can contact me privately I have
> good amount of fresh seeds from wild plants  Thank you very much
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