From robin@hansennursery.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <001701d1ec19$d793a4d0$86baee70$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: MIssing Sentence Vol 14 Issue 2 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 10:26:29 -0700 Good Morning, The correction to Volume 14 Issue 2 is being posted to the website with the missing sentence at the beginning of page 4 highlighted. In the meantime, I'm including it here for those who don't check the website on a regular basis. At the beginning of page 4, the sentence attached to "grow" is: I'll now discuss the three holy grails of bulbs, all from South America, named so because they are just so beautiful, highly sought after, and difficult to grow. The first is Pamianthe. If you have any questions, please let me or Jennifer Hildebrand know. I'm very sorry for this omission! Robin Hansen Editor, Pacific Bulb Journal Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com From ralph.carpenter1@googlemail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: John Ralph Carpenter Subject: Wiki Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:46:55 +0100 I have no idea how to add photographs to the Wiki. I have pictures of Nerine falcata and Zephyranthes smallii, neither of which feature in the Wiki. I know the status of these two as valid species is disputed, but the Nerine is considered to be a species in some circles, and the Zephyranthes is a known natural hybrid, so technically should be Zephyranthes x smallii. Anyway, neither seem to feature on the Wiki. -- Ralph Carpenter 2 & 3 Stone Cottages Chilmington Green Great Chart Ashford Kent TN23 3DW 01233 637567 From david@pilling.demon.co.uk Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <07667c8c-f679-9061-d7f7-330ab17753ef@pilling.demon.co.uk> From: David Pilling Subject: Wiki Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:12:12 +0100 Hi, On 01/08/2016 19:46, John Ralph Carpenter wrote: > I have no idea how to add photographs to the Wiki. If you (or anyone) has small amounts of photos or text they want adding to the wiki, send them to me by private email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk (I'm also on the PBS contact form, on the web site) If you want to make a long term commitment to the wiki ( ) send me an email and I can teach you how to use it. We would welcome help with the wiki - things are going slower these days - but there is lots of information not on the wiki which bulb growers could share with one another for their common good. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From mmattus@charter.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Matt Mattus Subject: Excitement in the Greenhouse Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:57:56 -0400 I don't know why we still have not yet had a wasp nest in our greenhouse, but we did have one just outside the door this year which took a few days to eliminate in a boxwood shrub. I wonder it if gets too hot in the glasshouse with temps reaching near 115 deg. F on sunny days? Matt Mattus Worcester, MA USA On 7/31/16, 2:34 PM, "Judy Glattstein" wrote: > Excitement in the greenhouse! > > I stepped inside my glass-to-ground lean-to greenhouse and it was hot! > Intake fan not running, vent louvers not open. Went to check the > thermostat for the system, which has a small cover over the top of the > coil to protect it from the sun. And an agitated wasp flew out. My quick > glimpse showed me a couple more crawling over a nest. Yikes! > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From arnold140@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <27293962.1892470.1470173475600.JavaMail.root@tvweb133088.mailsrvcs.net> From: arnold140@verizon.net Subject: Excitement in the Greenhouse Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:31:15 -0500 (CDT) I've had they under the eave near the greenhouse. Good guys in general but not where there's a change of them flying into people. Arnold New Jersey On 08/02/16, Matt Mattus wrote: I don't know why we still have not yet had a wasp nest in our greenhouse, but we did have one just outside the door this year which took a few days to eliminate in a boxwood shrub. I wonder it if gets too hot in the glasshouse with temps reaching near 115 deg. F on sunny days? Matt Mattus Worcester, MA USA On 7/31/16, 2:34 PM, "Judy Glattstein" wrote: > Excitement in the greenhouse! > > I stepped inside my glass-to-ground lean-to greenhouse and it was hot! > Intake fan not running, vent louvers not open. Went to check the > thermostat for the system, which has a small cover over the top of the > coil to protect it from the sun. And an agitated wasp flew out. My quick > glimpse showed me a couple more crawling over a nest. Yikes! > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <45F6A283-410A-482A-B7B3-D537FA2DEB00@islandnet.com> From: Diane Whitehead Subject: Excitement in the Greenhouse Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 17:13:56 -0700 My wasps prefer cool conditions. The ground ones nest under large rhododendrons, and the paper ones will be in a shady tree or under a deck. I find them very useful. I move any potted plants that are covered in aphids near to a nest, and the wasps clean them up. I put signs up to warn visitors. Diane Whitehead Victoria British Columbia, Canada On 2016-08-02, at 1:57 PM, Matt Mattus wrote: > I don't know why we still have not yet had a wasp nest in our greenhouse, > but we did have one just outside the door this year which took a few days to > eliminate in a boxwood shrub. I wonder it if gets too hot in the glasshouse > with temps reaching near 115 deg. F on sunny days? > From lmf@beautifulblooms.ab.ca Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <8FC1BF65-0353-4331-B78D-245BC8949892@beautifulblooms.ab.ca> From: Linda Foulis Subject: Moist packing seeds of Disporum Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:48:21 -0600 Or should I call it Prosartes trachycarpa... How should I package this seed if it needs to remain moist? Should I treat it with a fungicide prior to packaging it in moistened perlite or vermiculite? Linda Foulis Rainy, windy Rocky Mountains Zone 2 PS what a year for Lilium philadelphicum and Allium cernuum! From klazina1@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <7e09604b-88ff-e932-ef46-120ae26f5bee@gmail.com> From: Ina Crossley Subject: Paramongaia weberbaueri Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 14:51:26 +1200 How long does it take from pollination till the seed is ripe? I am keeping my fingers crossed at the moment..... Ina Crossley From pelarg@aol.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1566b06a984-4118-a5de@webprd-m44.mail.aol.com> From: pelarg@aol.com Subject: Paramongaia weberbaueri Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:40:14 -0400 Dont really remember but it was not exceptionally long, the pod will be ripe before the plant goes into dormancy. Ernie DeMarie NY where some crinums in pots are blooming including correctly identified (shock!) C scabrum from bulbs broght from Costco this spring. -----Original Message----- From: Ina Crossley To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Sat, Aug 6, 2016 12:11 am Subject: [pbs] re Paramongaia weberbaueri How long does it take from pollination till the seed is ripe? I am keeping my fingers crossed at the moment..... Ina Crossley From pelarg@aol.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1566b0908d3-4118-a606@webprd-m44.mail.aol.com> From: pelarg@aol.com Subject: Moist packing seeds of Disporum Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 12:42:49 -0400 So long as all remains of the berry are washed off, the seeds should be fine if stored in moistened vermiculite. I dont think fungicide would hurt but it probably wouldnt be necessary. Ernie DeMarie -----Original Message----- From: Linda Foulis To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2016 8:16 pm Subject: [pbs] Moist packing seeds of Disporum Or should I call it Prosartes trachycarpa... How should I package this seed if it needs to remain moist? Should I treat it with a fungicide prior to packaging it in moistened perlite or vermiculite? Linda Foulis Rainy, windy Rocky Mountains Zone 2 PS what a year for Lilium philadelphicum and Allium cernuum! From jgglatt@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <57A8C96B.4080505@gmail.com> From: Judy Glattstein Subject: Wasps and Yellow Jackets Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:03:23 -0400 Yellow jackets are extremely aggressive ground nesting wasps. Some nested in the ground at the end of a wood storage rack where logs are collected until they are split for firewood. Last Wednesday my husband got stung half a dozen times. Not anaphylactic allergic (at least so far) but has issues so came inside to use his Epipen. Called the pest control service who sent a tech to deal with the yellow jackets the next day. As an aside - skunks like to dig up the nests and eat the grubs. Paper wasps chew wood and make those gray football size nests. Leave them alone and they will leave you alone. When they nest in the greenhouse, under the railing of the deck - sorry but I need to get them gone. Unlike bees who sting and die wasps can sting multiple times. And it hurts. Judy in New Jersey where high heat and higher humidity went away Saturday night so we had a lovely Sunday. But today (Monday) is again veering towards sticky. From ksayce@willapabay.org Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <7D712EB3-8CB6-4772-9B31-9DA086374033@willapabay.org> From: Kathleen Sayce Subject: Amaryllis belladonna seedlings Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 16:45:14 -0700 Exciting days in my garden, not to the extent of dealing with wasps in inconvenient locations, but new flowers: Several years ago I purchased Amaryllis belladonna seeds from the PBS seed list, from among several hybrids that were offered that year. This year the first flower has appeared and will be fully open soon, perhaps as early as tomorrow. Right now it looks very like the old pink-flowered A. belladonna bulbs from my mom’s yard, moved more than 10 years ago, but it may be darker in color. There’s a patch of white and a patch of white with stripes, if memory serves, but no sign yet of flowers from those young bulbs. Kathleen From david@pilling.demon.co.uk Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: Wiki Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 11:06:46 +0100 Hi, On 01/08/2016 19:46, John Ralph Carpenter wrote: > I have no idea how to add photographs to the Wiki. I have pictures of > Nerine falcata and Zephyranthes smallii, neither of which feature in the > Wiki. I know the status of these two as valid species is disputed, but the > Nerine is considered to be a species in some circles, and the Zephyranthes > is a known natural hybrid, so technically should be Zephyranthes x smallii. > Anyway, neither seem to feature on the Wiki. They're now on the wiki here: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Zephyranthes#smallii http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/NerineSpeciesOne#falcata Thanks to John for the photos and text. Short form links (in case you have problems with the above): http://goo.gl/VmV7vr http://goo.gl/y8sZ8z -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From david@pilling.demon.co.uk Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <95e004db-4d7d-9eb2-2ad9-2532bfee916d@pilling.demon.co.uk> From: David Pilling Subject: Wurmbea mystery Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 00:45:12 +0100 Hi, Bruce Bayer says 'Here is a picture of a Wurmbea that grows here at Fisherhaven, South Africa (a bit of a threatened bulb paradise). The id I get is W. stricta but I am rather doubtful while another id has been W spicata!' Can anyone identify this plant? Link: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/MysteryBulbs#fisherhaven Shortened: http://goo.gl/EUDBYw -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From christophermwhitehouse@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <57AC1BD3.6060506@phillipskop.co.za> From: Chris Whitehouse Subject: Wurmbea mystery Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:31:47 +0200 It has to be one of the old Onixotis as the tepals are free at the base (true Wurmbea form a tube). Would need to see the leaves to be sure between W. stricta and W. punctata but W. punctata is generally a smaller plant and grows in damp areas (W. stricta usually grows in pools and marshes and almost always has flowers that are pink with dark bases). W. punctata is flowering here at present and I would go for this species. Chris 'Here is a picture of a Wurmbea that grows here at Fisherhaven, South Africa (a bit of a threatened bulb paradise). The id I get is W. stricta but I am rather doubtful while another id has been W spicata!' Can anyone identify this plant? Christopher Whitehouse Phillipskop Mountain Reserve P.O. Box 1059 Stanford 7210 Western Cape South Africa Cell: 073 621 1808 Website: www.phillipskop.co.za Like Facebook iconPhillipskop or follow us on Twitter icon@PhillipskopSA and Pinterest iconPhillipskop From msittner@mcn.org Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <4fed52ef-8dc6-8b48-3345-ab84235c334a@mcn.org> From: Mary Sue Ittner Subject: Wurmbea mystery Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 07:51:38 -0700 I had an email conversation with John Manning when I was trying to figure out some unidentified wurmbeas we had seen on a trip to South Africa and I ended up getting very confused about Wurmbea spicata, especially when he said that the photo in the Color Encyclopedia was probably wrong and > True W. spicata is supposed not to have those blotches at all. So many photos I had seen identified as this species have blotches. Onixotis has been included in Wurmbea, but the key in the Color Encyclopedia for Wurmbea does not include it. Botanists can probably help me out here, but the description of the nectary for the original Wurmbea was a pouch like nectary at the base of the free part of the tepal and for Onixotis "a more or less narrowly pouch-like nectary above each of two conspicuous lobes curved upward above the claw". If I understand this description and look at the photos on the Wiki, the nectary is often further down the tepal than in the photos of the mystery plant. Could this plant be Wurmbea punctata (formerly Onixotis?). The location fits the description for where it is distributed. If we could see the whole plant it would really help. This species has white to maroon flowers that are sessile on a short spike with three lanceolate leaves and the uppermost set about halfway up the stem. Here's an Ispot link that was identified as likely to be that species with one agreement: www.ispotnature.org/node/662007?nav=parent_ob Mary Sue > Bruce Bayer says 'Here is a picture of a Wurmbea that grows here at > Fisherhaven, South Africa (a bit of a threatened bulb paradise). The > id I get is W. stricta but I am rather doubtful while another id has > been W spicata!' Can anyone identify this plant? > Link: > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/MysteryBulbs#fisherhaven > From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <135052.35870.bm@smtp227.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Dell Sherk Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 405 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:04:59 -0400 Dear All,       The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at mailto: ds429@frontier.com   Include "BX 405" in the subject line.         Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added.     Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website:         If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Dell Sherk 55 W. High St. Salem, WV 26426 USA Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Dell's email address ds429@frontier.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.             I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! From Rimmer de Vries: 1. Seeds of Hymenocallis harrisiana 2. Bulbs of Nothoscordum gracile var. macrostemon,  Chile, ex Harry Hay ex MSI From Roy Herold: Small, pea-size tubers, one year old, of Cyclamen rohlfsianum. Plant now, keep dry, water on Sept 1. 3. C. rohlfsianum 93-14, large dark green, reniform leaves heavily marked with silver. Pink flowers. 4. C. rohlfsianum 93-8, medium green maple leaf shaped leaves, well marked. Pink flowers. From Pamela Slate: (BULBS) 5. Leucojum aestivum ‘Gravetye Giant’ 6. Watsonia ‘Flamboyant’ brilliant deep coral flower 7. Ferraria schaeferi, ex BX 292 Mace 8. Ferraria crispa “ssp. nortieri” 9. Albuca sp. finally ID’d as A. acuminata, epigeal From Tim Eck: 10. Seed of Crinum lugardiae From Alberto Grossi: 11. Seeds of Eucrosia aurantiaca 12. Seeds of Chlorophytum saundersiae From Judy Glattstein: 13. Bulbs of Zephyranthes candida Thank you, Rimmer, Roy, Pamela, Tim, Alberto, and Judy !! Best wishes, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jgglatt@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <57ACE1EA.2030304@gmail.com> From: Judy Glattstein Subject: Saffron Startup in Afghanistan Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 16:36:58 -0400 Three army veterans and a civilian who served in Afghanistan have founded Rumi Spice, growing and exporting saffron. I wish them well. Judy in disgustingly humid New Jersey where it is thundering, raining, complete cloud cover. So much for watching the Perseid meteorites tonight. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/business/smallbusiness/a-start-up-turns-to-saffron-to-help-afghanistan-regrow.html?module=WatchingPortal®ion=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=wide&state=standard&contentPlacement=1&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F08%2F11%2Fbusiness%2Fsmallbusiness%2Fa-start-up-turns-to-saffron-to-help-afghanistan-regrow.html&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0 From makimoff76@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: mark akimoff Subject: illahe Rare Bulbs Specialty list 2016 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:38:17 -0700 The illahe Rare Bulbs Specialty list for 2016 is online now at www.illaherarebulbs.blogspot.com Thanks, PBS member and Wiki junkie, Mark Akimoff From toadlily@integra.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Laura & Dave Subject: Touble with Illahe RareBulbs listing Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 23:00:31 -0700 Hi Am I the only one with a problem getting into Mark's bulb listing? Both Firefox and Chrome are telling me the site isn't secure, and won't let me into it. I can override this, but would like a little more information before I do. Thanks, Dave Brastow From david@pilling.demon.co.uk Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: Touble with Illahe RareBulbs listing Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:23:49 +0100 Hi, On 12/08/2016 07:00, Laura & Dave wrote: > Am I the only one with a problem getting into Mark's bulb listing? > Both Firefox and Chrome are telling me the site isn't secure, and won't > let me into it. No warnings here. Interesting that it redirects to .co.uk You can check it out using: https://safeweb.norton.com/ https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/safebrowsing/diagnostic/ One says "OK", the other "no data". -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From erik@tepuidesign.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Erik Van Lennep Subject: Saffron Startup in Afghanistan Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:42:48 +0200 Hi Judy, thanks for sharing such a positive bit of news! Bulbs alone may not save the world, but recovering traditional crops and remembering how to tend the soil rather than strip-mining it....just might. If we take inspiration from this and look locally for what we can do as well as support efforts such as this one in Afghanistan there's more than "just" hope. We can act knowing the impact is additive. Sitting here on the coast of Spain I wouldn't mind having a bit of your rainfall, and a few good thunderstorms. Could you ask the thunder gods to send some of that in this direction? Thanks :) Erik <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> “I know of no restorative of heart, body, and soul more effective against hopelessness than the restoration of the Earth.” —BARRY LOPEZ” On 11 August 2016 at 22:36, Judy Glattstein wrote: > Three army veterans and a civilian who served in Afghanistan have founded > Rumi Spice, growing and exporting saffron. I wish them well. > > > > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1496194792.15570526.1471005858895.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: BX 405 CLOSED Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Some supplies will likely run too short. Packages should go out in a week or so. Enjoy, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX From penstemon@Q.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <9E593D57CAB640C4958C5834C860341F@bobPC> From: "penstemon" Subject: Touble with Illahe RareBulbs listing Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:58:52 -0600 >Am I the only one with a problem getting into Mark's bulb listing? Both Firefox and Chrome are telling me the site isn't secure, and won't let me into it. I can override this, but would like a little more information before I do. I use Chrome, and the email directed me to the blog, where there’s an entry for the list, which appears at the bottom of the page, as a blog post. No warnings. Bob Nold _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janjeddeloh@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jan Jeddeloh Subject: Touble with Illahe RareBulbs listing Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:00:21 -0700 I couldn’t get in last night either and I’m using Safari. Jan Jeddeloh > On Aug 11, 2016, at 11:00 PM, Laura & Dave wrote: > > Hi > Am I the only one with a problem getting into Mark's bulb listing? Both Firefox and Chrome are telling me the site isn't secure, and won't let me into it. I can override this, but would like a little more information before I do. > Thanks, > Dave Brastow > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From robin@hansennursery.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <000801d1f4ad$747a32a0$5d6e97e0$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: Touble with Illahe RareBulbs listing Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 08:23:18 -0700 I've emailed Mark privately about the problem as it seems to be widespread... Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com From makimoff76@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: mark akimoff Subject: Touble with Illahe RareBulbs listing Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:15:13 -0700 Hi folks, Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I haven't had any problems accessing it, but if others have then that is not good for commerce. I use a free blog hosting site to keep expenses low and I don't get any tech support with that. Anyone wanting me to email them a copy can request one at illaherarebulbs@gmail.com Again, Sorry about the access problems Mark On Aug 12, 2016 8:23 AM, "Hansen Nursery" wrote: > I've emailed Mark privately about the problem as it seems to be > widespread... > > Robin > Hansen Nursery > robin@hansennursery.com > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From robertpries@embarqmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <449339458.16781550.1471022443355.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com> From: "Robert Pries " Subject: Touble with Illahe RareBulbs listing Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Mark: your website is coming in quite well on my computer. I have a request for all PBS followers. As you may know the American Iris Society has an online Iris Encyclopedia. It contains about 70,000 pages. Every cultivar has its own page. We include all the cultivars registered with AIS and the KAVB (bulbous). But we also include where possible any Iris offered in commerce whether it is registered are not. It is the only encyclopedic complete reference to Iris, forms, varieties, cultivars etc. It’s emphasis has long been to show the diversity of species and hybrids. Many nurseries have given us permission to add their images to these pages. But I still have a hard time reaching rare plant enthusiasts. I think there is a certain bias against sharing species images for fear they are ignored by all the hybrid enthusiasts. But the AIS wiki attempts to cover all this ground without prejudice. If anything being a former botanist my subconscious probably favors the species. But I would like to invite all of you to take a look and help us fill in the missing unregistered species varieties. Note we show the source of all images and leave watermarks in place so it is a great way to advertise your nursery or brag about your success —Bob Pries its address is http://wiki.irises.org/bin/view/Main my e-mail is robertpries@embarqmail.com The PBS wiki was an inspiration to our work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark akimoff" To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 12:15:13 PM Subject: Re: [pbs] Touble with Illahe RareBulbs listing Hi folks, Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I haven't had any problems accessing it, but if others have then that is not good for commerce. I use a free blog hosting site to keep expenses low and I don't get any tech support with that. Anyone wanting me to email them a copy can request one at illaherarebulbs@gmail.com Again, Sorry about the access problems Mark On Aug 12, 2016 8:23 AM, "Hansen Nursery" wrote: > I've emailed Mark privately about the problem as it seems to be > widespread... > > Robin > Hansen Nursery > robin@hansennursery.com > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > -- Bob Pries Zone 7a Roxboro, NC (336)597-8805 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From michaelhomick@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Michael Homick Subject: illahe Rare Bulbs Specialty list 2016 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 10:25:56 -0700 I thought there was a problem with the list as well, .... but the top of all the pages are all the same, and I had to scroll down to actually see the blog portion I was looking for. All the best, Michael Homick On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 8:38 PM, mark akimoff wrote: > The illahe Rare Bulbs Specialty list for 2016 is online now at > www.illaherarebulbs.blogspot.com > > Thanks, > > PBS member and Wiki junkie, > > Mark Akimoff > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From dkramb@badbear.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <57AE7818.9050300@badbear.com> From: dkramb Subject: Phaedranassa viridiflora Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 21:30:00 -0400 I got a bulb from BX 387 (October 2015) and it grew right away. After a couple months it went dormant. Then it grew again right away, and went dormant right away. And I although I haven't kept track, I feel like it's been dormant about the last 5 months. So I figured it was dead. Nope! I dug around in the pot tonight & found out that the bulb is firm with fresh new roots coming out. It was growing on a south-facing windowsill without supplemental lighting. (Same place I grow my Hippeastrum seedlings.) Does it need stronger light than that? Does it need to stay wetter? I was letting it dry out between waterings. Should I set it outside in the summer sun?? (I do that with my Hippeastrum seedlings too.) Thanks! Dennis in Cincinnati (where I'm spending all my spare time collecting, cleaning, and sorting my Iris seed harvest) From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:buying haemanthus Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 11:06:03 -0700 The following inquiry came via the PBS website. If you can help Eleanor find Haemanthus in the USA, please write to her at the address below. Thanks, Jane McGary -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: PBS website contact:buying haemanthus Date: 14 Aug 2016 07:03:18 -0400, Sun, 14 Aug 2016 07:03:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Apache Reply-To: eleanor kopp To: janemcgary@earthlink.net This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. I would like to purchase some haemanthus plants and it seems they are not sold in the USA. I have tried google and many well known nurseries in my area with no luck. There are several vendors overseas who offer them. Thank you. -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org From robin@no1bird.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Robin Carrier Subject: Phaedranassa viridiflora Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 14:13:11 -0400 > On Aug 12, 2016, at 9:30 PM, dkramb wrote: > > I got a bulb from BX 387 (October 2015) and it grew right away. After a couple months it went dormant. Then it grew again right away, and went dormant right away. And I although I haven't kept track, I feel like it's been dormant about the last 5 months. So I figured it was dead. Nope! I dug around in the pot tonight & found out that the bulb is firm with fresh new roots coming out. > > It was growing on a south-facing windowsill without supplemental lighting. (Same place I grow my Hippeastrum seedlings.) Does it need stronger light than that? Does it need to stay wetter? I was letting it dry out between waterings. Should I set it outside in the summer sun?? (I do that with my Hippeastrum seedlings too.) > > Thanks! > Dennis in Cincinnati (where I'm spending all my spare time collecting, cleaning, and sorting my Iris seed harvest) > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <2d308c4b-94a0-4349-038b-401d64eb2cbf@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Oakland (California) Nature Festival Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 18:05:11 -0700 Organizers of this festival in the East Bay area of the San Francisco, California, region (where PBS has many members) asked us to pass on the following announcement. There is an opportunity for the PBS to participate, as you will see, but a fee is charged for that. *Rotary Nature Center & Lake Merritt Wildlife Refuge* Stephanie Benavidez, Supervising Naturalist 600 Bellevue Ave, Oakland CA 94610 Dear Pacific Bulb Society, The Rotary Nature Center is very excited to announce our first annual *Oakland Nature Festival at the Lake Merritt Wildlife Refuge on October 2, 2016 from 10 am - 4 pm*! This festival is a celebration of the nation’s first wildlife refuge & the biodiversity in the heart of the Oakland, as well as a fundraiser for the Rotary Nature Center (RNC) & our event partner, The SF Bay Chapter of The Wildlife Society (TWS). We’d love for you to be involved to both promote your organization and participate in this community-building event! We’ll have a job/opportunity table for any openings at your organization, so feel free to bring any job, volunteer, or internship postings. Lake Merritt is a very popular weekend destination, and we expect a few hundred people to attend. Come meet & enjoy dozens of environmental organizations, wildlife rescue groups, live animals, local merchants, and nature artists for an afternoon of fun & education for the whole city! We’ll also have guest speakers, nature walks, workshops, a job board, and a silent auction. Since this is a fundraising event, we’re charging a sliding-scale rate of $60-$100 per table. The RNC is the overseeing body of the Lake Merritt Wildlife Refuge, and has provided conservation and natural history education for this Oakland landmark since 1945. This festival is a fundraiser for things such as binoculars for public use, museum display upgrades, and other educational equipment. TWS was founded in 1937 as an international non-profit scientific and educational association dedicated to excellence in wildlife stewardship through science and education. The SF Bay Chapter of TWS is working to raise funds to support their college mentorship program, ethnic and gender diversity initiative, and events and workshops for professional development. It will receive proceeds from the silent auction from this event for their help promoting, organizing, and providing volunteers & programs for the fair. For more information, please call Constance Taylor at the Rotary Nature Center at *510-238-3739* or e-mail her at *_oaklandnature@gmail.com_*. To contact TWS, e-mail or call Ivan Parr at *_ivan.parr@aecom.com_* or 510-589-8649. If you’re interested in participating, please fill out the questions below and e-mail them back to Constance Taylor at *_oaklandnature@gmail.com_ by Aug 25. * Thanks so much for considering, and we hope to see you at the nature festival! Best, Constance Taylor Recreation Specialist I, Rotary Nature Center *Please return interest form questionnaire to Constance Taylor by_August 25_ at _oaklandnature@gmail.com_* Name of Organization: Organization website: Contact Person: Phone # for contact person: E-mail for contact person: Will you be selling goods? If so, what? /No food please, unless you have a food handlers’ permit from the City of Oakland/ Are you willing to donate an item or service for a silent auction or raffle?: How much are you able to pay for your table ($60-$100 sliding scale)?: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jazamah@hotmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: jose zaldivar Subject: need help of zephyranthes Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:43:56 +0000 Hello everybody I am looking for the original descriptions of Zephyranthes and Habranthus below mentioned, I appreciatte if you can help me to obtain them. Zephyranthes fosteri Traub, Herbertia 7, 1941 pags. 65-66 Habranthus vittatus Howard, Herbertia 46, 1990 public. 1991 pag. 115-116 Zephyranthes dichomantha, mexicanus and oaxacanus Howard, Herbertia 51, 1996 pags. 38-44 Habranthus tepicensis Greem, Herbertia 63, 2009 pags. 174-180 Zephyranthes longituba Flory, Herbertia 64, 2010, pags 117-123 Regards Jose Zaldivar From cherbstritt@yahoo.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1099584898.15148907.1471312491779.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Chris_Herbstritt Subject: Illahe Orders Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 01:54:51 +0000 (UTC) Illahe has some great bulb offerings but you might want to email him about availability before placing your order. Last year I ordered early and most of the bulbs that I had selected (and the ones that I really wanted) were already sold out. He explained that many bulbs sell out within minutes of being listed. From sbourrie@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <861616556.14646357.1471312892734.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Sally Bourrie Subject: Illahe Orders Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 02:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Wow!  Good to know -- are you coming tomorrow night, Chris? Sally Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.-- Dalai Lama    From: Chris_Herbstritt To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 9:54 PM Subject: [pbs] Illahe Orders Illahe has some great bulb offerings but you might want to email him about availability before placing your order.  Last year I ordered early and most of the bulbs that I had selected (and the ones that I really wanted) were already sold out.  He explained that many bulbs sell out within minutes of being listed. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1224280796.9655532.1471350833162.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Illahe Orders Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:33:53 +0000 (UTC) The price list is periodically updated, so you should be able to get a good idea of what's still available.  Jim McKenney _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From robin@no1bird.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <65E3F8D4-3103-4CC3-AB4D-52AD22F0A0A4@no1bird.net> From: Robin Carrier Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 401 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:32:48 -0400 > On Jun 10, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Dell Sherk wrote: > > Dear All, > > The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. > If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at > > mailto: ds429@frontier.com > > Include "BX 401" in the subject line. > > > Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added. > > Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: > > If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > > Dell Sherk > 55 W. High St. > Salem, WV 26426 > USA > > Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. > > ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > > Dell's email address > ds429@frontier.com > > Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. > > > I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. > IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > > > ALL SEEDS: > > From Ina Crossley: > > 1. Zephyranthes fosteri, pink/white mix > 2. Zephyranthes katheriniae ‘Rubra’ > 3. Zephyranthes minuta > 4. Zephyranthes verecunda (Mexican), syn. Z. minuta > 5. Zephyranthes citrina > 6. Zephyranthes minima > 7. Zephyranthes mesochloa > 8. Zephyranthes lindleyana > 9. Zephyranthes morrisclintii ‘Red Neck Romance’ > 10. Zephyranthes macrosiphon > 11. Zephyranthes ‘Pink Beauty’ > 12. Zephyranthes dichromantha > 13. Zephyranthes verecunda ‘Rosea’ > 14. Zephyranthes primulina > 15. Zephyranthes smallii > 16. Zephyranthes reginae > 17. Zephyranthes miradorensis > > From Pam Slate: > > 18. x Hippeastrelia > > From Jill Peterson: > > 19. Clivia miniata, from a variegated orange flowered clivia crossed with a yellow flowered non-variegated one. > > > From Marvin Ellenbecker: > > 20. Clivia nobilis > 21. Hippeastrum papilio > > Thank you, Ina, Pam, Jill, and Marvin !! > > Best wishes, > Dell > > Dell Sherk, PBS BX > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <703144.91629.bm@smtp233.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Dell Sherk Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:49:54 -0400 Dear All,       The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at mailto: ds429@frontier.com   Include "BX 406" in the subject line.         Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added.     Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website:         If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Dell Sherk 55 W. High St. Salem, WV 26426 USA Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Dell's email address ds429@frontier.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.             I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! From Roy Herold (ALL BULBS, some in short supply) 1. Cyrtanthus epiphyticus ex BX154 2. Freesia laxa 'Joan Evans' 3. Lapeirousia jacquinii 4. Massonia sp. Roggeveld, NNBH3851, hand pollinated 5. Narcissus “albidus occidentalis” N028 6. Narcissus “albidus zaianicus” 7. Narcissus bulbocodium ex Morocco, few 8. Narcissus bulbocodium var. graellsii N007 9. Narcissus bulbocodium N020 10. Narcissus bulbocodium var. obesus N024 11. Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. praecox (paucinervis) ex BX348 12. Narcissus bulbocodium var. tenuifolius N022 13. Narcissus cantabricus var. foliosus N001 14. Narcissus cantabricus 'Peppermint' 15. Narcissus 'Joy Bishop' N068 The three types of Julia Jane are slightly different from one another. 16. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #1, N106, ex McGary 17. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #2, ex Odyssey 18. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #3, ex SRGC 19. Narcissus nevadensis, N087 20. Narcissus romieuxii 'Atlas Gold' JCA805Y, few 21. Narcissus romieuxii subsp. albidus var. tananicus N002 22. Narcissus sp w/c Oukaimeden N086 23. Narcissus 'Stocken's Gib' 24. Narcissus 'Tarlatan' 25. Narcissus 'Treble Chance' JCA805, N066 26. Narcissus Mixed Seedlings These date back to a mass sowing in 2004 of seed from moderately controlled crosses of romieuxii, cantabricus, albidus, zaianicus, and similar early blooming sorts of the bulbocodium group. Colors tend to be light yellow through cream to white, and flowers are large, much larger than the little gold colored bulbocodiums of spring. These have been selected four times, and the keepers are choice. Similar to my 2012 and 2014 PBS offerings. Thank you, Roy !! Best wishes, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From thorne.fred@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Frederick Thorne Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:01:55 -0700 I would like 1,3 and 4 Fred Thorne 3436 Richmond Court Live Oak California 95953 On Aug 17, 2016 9:50 AM, "Dell Sherk" wrote: > Dear All, > > The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends > to be shared. > If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY > at > > mailto: ds429@frontier.com > > Include "BX 406" in the subject line. > > > Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not > specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, > too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first > come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, > included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of > seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to < > pbs.treasury@verizon.net>; no money orders, please) you should send the > PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added. > > Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are > not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership > charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the > Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you > can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: < > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/> > > If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the > PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their > donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > > Dell Sherk > 55 W. High St. > Salem, WV 26426 > USA > > Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. > > ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > > Dell's email address > ds429@frontier.com > > Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. > > > I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. > IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > > From Roy Herold (ALL BULBS, some in short supply) > > 1. Cyrtanthus epiphyticus ex BX154 > 2. Freesia laxa 'Joan Evans' > 3. Lapeirousia jacquinii > 4. Massonia sp. Roggeveld, NNBH3851, hand pollinated > 5. Narcissus “albidus occidentalis” N028 > 6. Narcissus “albidus zaianicus” > 7. Narcissus bulbocodium ex Morocco, few > 8. Narcissus bulbocodium var. graellsii N007 > 9. Narcissus bulbocodium N020 > 10. Narcissus bulbocodium var. obesus N024 > 11. Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. praecox (paucinervis) ex BX348 > 12. Narcissus bulbocodium var. tenuifolius N022 > 13. Narcissus cantabricus var. foliosus N001 > 14. Narcissus cantabricus 'Peppermint' > 15. Narcissus 'Joy Bishop' N068 > > The three types of Julia Jane are slightly different from one another. > > 16. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #1, N106, ex McGary > 17. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #2, ex Odyssey > 18. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #3, ex SRGC > 19. Narcissus nevadensis, N087 > 20. Narcissus romieuxii 'Atlas Gold' JCA805Y, few > 21. Narcissus romieuxii subsp. albidus var. tananicus N002 > 22. Narcissus sp w/c Oukaimeden N086 > 23. Narcissus 'Stocken's Gib' > 24. Narcissus 'Tarlatan' > 25. Narcissus 'Treble Chance' JCA805, N066 > 26. Narcissus Mixed Seedlings > These date back to a mass sowing in 2004 of seed from moderately > controlled crosses of romieuxii, cantabricus, albidus, zaianicus, and > similar early blooming sorts of the bulbocodium group. Colors tend to be > light yellow through cream to white, and flowers are large, much larger > than the little gold colored bulbocodiums of spring. These have been > selected four times, and the keepers are choice. Similar to my 2012 and > 2014 PBS offerings. > > > Thank you, Roy !! > > Best wishes, > Dell > > Dell Sherk, PBS BX > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1134433069.18317132.1471462138685.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: About BX's Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Dear All, Two things: The posting that went out earlier about BX 401 was someone's error and none of the items on that list are available. Nearly everything is already gone from BX 406, except for the mixed Narcissus hybrids, #26. Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX From rherold@yahoo.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <57B4C451.1060102@yahoo.com> From: Roy Herold Subject: About BX's Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:08:49 -0400 If you have any doubts about ordering BX 406 #26, let me allay your fears. In my northern coldframe and greenhouse, the collection of these narcissus seedlings blooms from mid-November until March, more or less non-stop. For me, the quality of these plants with regards to vigor, form, and overall beauty is better than most of my named varieties. Some rebloom, many have fragrant flowers, and they don't 'flop'. Most everything Dell has is blooming size. Get some today. --Roy NW of Boston On 8/17/2016 3:28 PM, ds429 wrote: > Dear All, > > Two things: > > The posting that went out earlier about BX 401 was someone's error and none of the items on that list are available. > > Nearly everything is already gone from BX 406, except for the mixed Narcissus hybrids, #26. > > Dell > > Dell Sherk, > PBS BX > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From rrherold@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Roy Herold Subject: About BX's Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:15:18 -0400 If you have any doubts about ordering BX 406 #26, let me allay your fears. In my northern coldframe and greenhouse, the collection of these narcissus seedlings blooms from mid-November until March, more or less non-stop. For me, the quality of these plants with regards to vigor, form, and overall beauty is better than most of my named varieties. Some rebloom, many have fragrant flowers, and they don't 'flop'. Most everything Dell has is blooming size. Get some today. --Roy NW of Boston On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:28 PM, ds429 wrote: > Dear All, > > Two things: > > The posting that went out earlier about BX 401 was someone's error and > none of the items on that list are available. > > Nearly everything is already gone from BX 406, except for the mixed > Narcissus hybrids, #26. > > Dell > > Dell Sherk, > PBS BX > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <812177021.17996216.1471465961223.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: About BX's Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Roy, thanks so much for making these available again. Thanks to the generosity of you and a few others, I had built up a nice collection of these little hoop-petticoats. Last winter, rats got into my bulb collections. By the time I figured out what had happened, they had ruined the collection. Pots were dug out, bulbs and labels were scattered, bulbs eaten - what a mess. If I'm lucky with my BX requests, I'll be back in the game again thanks to your most recent donation.Jim McKenney _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From totototo@telus.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <57B4CA7A.5060606@telus.net> From: Rodger Whitlock Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 163, Issue 7 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:35:06 -0700 On 16-08-17 10:38 AM, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > Illahe has some great bulb offerings but you might want to email him > about availability before placing your order. Last year I ordered > early and most of the bulbs that I had selected (and the ones that I > really wanted) were already sold out. He explained that many bulbs > sell out within minutes of being listed. That is a very common problem with any online site offering a wide range of goods: the database that is used for generating the web pages is not fully up to date with the actual stock on hand From janjeddeloh@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <06946F28-1DE8-490A-BC3F-C29AB0954207@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:13:45 -0700 Apparently I’m already late to the party so I’ll take some of #26 and any other narcissus still available except Jane McGary’s “Julie Jane” (already have it). I would love it if I could get a bit of #10, Narcissus bulbocodium v obesus. I saw it in bloom in Portugal this spring and it’s adorable. Did you get my previous email asking if Erythronium revolutum and small rhizome of Trillium kurababyashii would be appropriate for the Bulb X? Thank you, Jan Jeddeloh 1315 NW 174th Pl. Beaverton, OR 97006 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From raymond_schuck@hotmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: raymond schuck Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 163, Issue 7 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:29:32 +0000 Dell, I would like no. 26. Many thanks, Ray Schuck 2502 Leroy St. Pearland, Tx 77581 . Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:40 PM, "pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org" wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: List-Archive: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Illahe Orders (Chris_Herbstritt) > 2. Re: Illahe Orders (Sally Bourrie) > 3. Re: Illahe Orders (Jim McKenney) > 4. Re: Pacific Bulb Society BX 401 (Robin Carrier) > 5. Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 (Dell Sherk) > 6. Re: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 (Frederick Thorne) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 01:54:51 +0000 (UTC) > From: Chris_Herbstritt > To: > Subject: [pbs] Illahe Orders > Message-ID: > <1099584898.15148907.1471312491779.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Illahe has some great bulb offerings but you might want to email him about availability before placing your order. Last year I ordered early and most of the bulbs that I had selected (and the ones that I really wanted) were already sold out. He explained that many bulbs sell out within minutes of being listed. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 02:01:32 +0000 (UTC) > From: Sally Bourrie > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Illahe Orders > Message-ID: > <861616556.14646357.1471312892734.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Wow! ?Good to know -- are you coming tomorrow night, Chris? > Sally?Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.-- Dalai Lama??? > > > From: Chris_Herbstritt > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 9:54 PM > Subject: [pbs] Illahe Orders > > Illahe has some great bulb offerings but you might want to email him about availability before placing your order.? Last year I ordered early and most of the bulbs that I had selected (and the ones that I really wanted) were already sold out.? He explained that many bulbs sell out within minutes of being listed. > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 12:33:53 +0000 (UTC) > From: Jim McKenney > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Illahe Orders > Message-ID: > <1224280796.9655532.1471350833162.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The price list is periodically updated, so you should be able to get a good idea of what's still available.? > Jim McKenney > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:32:48 -0400 > From: Robin Carrier > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 401 > Message-ID: <65E3F8D4-3103-4CC3-AB4D-52AD22F0A0A4@no1bird.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > >> On Jun 10, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Dell Sherk wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. >> If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at >> >> mailto: ds429@frontier.com >> >> Include "BX 401" in the subject line. >> >> >> Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added. >> >> Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: >> >> If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: >> >> Dell Sherk >> 55 W. High St. >> Salem, WV 26426 >> USA >> >> Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. >> >> ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. >> >> Dell's email address >> ds429@frontier.com >> >> Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. >> >> >> I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. >> IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! >> >> >> ALL SEEDS: >> >> From Ina Crossley: >> >> 1. Zephyranthes fosteri, pink/white mix >> 2. Zephyranthes katheriniae ?Rubra? >> 3. Zephyranthes minuta >> 4. Zephyranthes verecunda (Mexican), syn. Z. minuta >> 5. Zephyranthes citrina >> 6. Zephyranthes minima >> 7. Zephyranthes mesochloa >> 8. Zephyranthes lindleyana >> 9. Zephyranthes morrisclintii ?Red Neck Romance? >> 10. Zephyranthes macrosiphon >> 11. Zephyranthes ?Pink Beauty? >> 12. Zephyranthes dichromantha >> 13. Zephyranthes verecunda ?Rosea? >> 14. Zephyranthes primulina >> 15. Zephyranthes smallii >> 16. Zephyranthes reginae >> 17. Zephyranthes miradorensis >> >> From Pam Slate: >> >> 18. x Hippeastrelia >> >> From Jill Peterson: >> >> 19. Clivia miniata, from a variegated orange flowered clivia crossed with a yellow flowered non-variegated one. >> >> >> From Marvin Ellenbecker: >> >> 20. Clivia nobilis >> 21. Hippeastrum papilio >> >> Thank you, Ina, Pam, Jill, and Marvin !! >> >> Best wishes, >> Dell >> >> Dell Sherk, PBS BX >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:49:54 -0400 > From: Dell Sherk > To: pbs > Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 > Message-ID: <703144.91629.bm@smtp233.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear All, > > ? ? ? The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. > If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at > > mailto: ds429@frontier.com > ? > Include "BX 406" in the subject line. > > > ? ? ? ? Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added. > > ? ? Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: > > ? ? ? ? If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > > Dell Sherk > 55 W. High St. > Salem, WV 26426 > USA > > Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. > > ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > > Dell's email address > ds429@frontier.com > > Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. > IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > >> From Roy Herold (ALL BULBS, some in short supply) > > 1. Cyrtanthus epiphyticus ex BX154 > 2. Freesia laxa 'Joan Evans' > 3. Lapeirousia jacquinii > 4. Massonia sp. Roggeveld, NNBH3851, hand pollinated > 5. Narcissus ?albidus occidentalis? N028 > 6. Narcissus ?albidus zaianicus? > 7. Narcissus bulbocodium ex Morocco, few > 8. Narcissus bulbocodium var. graellsii N007 > 9. Narcissus bulbocodium N020 > 10. Narcissus bulbocodium var. obesus N024 > 11. Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. praecox (paucinervis) ex BX348 > 12. Narcissus bulbocodium var. tenuifolius N022 > 13. Narcissus cantabricus var. foliosus N001 > 14. Narcissus cantabricus 'Peppermint' > 15. Narcissus 'Joy Bishop' N068 > > The three types of Julia Jane are slightly different from one another. > > 16. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #1, N106, ex McGary > 17. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #2, ex Odyssey > 18. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #3, ex SRGC > 19. Narcissus nevadensis, N087 > 20. Narcissus romieuxii 'Atlas Gold' JCA805Y, few > 21. Narcissus romieuxii subsp. albidus var. tananicus N002 > 22. Narcissus sp w/c Oukaimeden N086 > 23. Narcissus 'Stocken's Gib' > 24. Narcissus 'Tarlatan' > 25. Narcissus 'Treble Chance' JCA805, N066 > 26. Narcissus Mixed Seedlings > These date back to a mass sowing in 2004 of seed from moderately > controlled crosses of romieuxii, cantabricus, albidus, zaianicus, and > similar early blooming sorts of the bulbocodium group. Colors tend to be > light yellow through cream to white, and flowers are large, much larger > than the little gold colored bulbocodiums of spring. These have been > selected four times, and the keepers are choice. Similar to my 2012 and > 2014 PBS offerings. > > > Thank you, Roy !! > > Best wishes, > Dell > > Dell Sherk, PBS BX > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 10:01:55 -0700 > From: Frederick Thorne > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I would like 1,3 and 4 > Fred Thorne 3436 Richmond Court Live Oak California 95953 > >> On Aug 17, 2016 9:50 AM, "Dell Sherk" wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends >> to be shared. >> If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY >> at >> >> mailto: ds429@frontier.com >> >> Include "BX 406" in the subject line. >> >> >> Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not >> specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, >> too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first >> come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, >> included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of >> seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to < >> pbs.treasury@verizon.net>; no money orders, please) you should send the >> PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added. >> >> Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are >> not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership >> charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the >> Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you >> can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: < >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/> >> >> If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the >> PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their >> donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: >> >> Dell Sherk >> 55 W. High St. >> Salem, WV 26426 >> USA >> >> Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. >> >> ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. >> >> Dell's email address >> ds429@frontier.com >> >> Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. >> >> >> I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. >> IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! >> >> From Roy Herold (ALL BULBS, some in short supply) >> >> 1. Cyrtanthus epiphyticus ex BX154 >> 2. Freesia laxa 'Joan Evans' >> 3. Lapeirousia jacquinii >> 4. Massonia sp. Roggeveld, NNBH3851, hand pollinated >> 5. Narcissus ?albidus occidentalis? N028 >> 6. Narcissus ?albidus zaianicus? >> 7. Narcissus bulbocodium ex Morocco, few >> 8. Narcissus bulbocodium var. graellsii N007 >> 9. Narcissus bulbocodium N020 >> 10. Narcissus bulbocodium var. obesus N024 >> 11. Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. praecox (paucinervis) ex BX348 >> 12. Narcissus bulbocodium var. tenuifolius N022 >> 13. Narcissus cantabricus var. foliosus N001 >> 14. Narcissus cantabricus 'Peppermint' >> 15. Narcissus 'Joy Bishop' N068 >> >> The three types of Julia Jane are slightly different from one another. >> >> 16. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #1, N106, ex McGary >> 17. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #2, ex Odyssey >> 18. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #3, ex SRGC >> 19. Narcissus nevadensis, N087 >> 20. Narcissus romieuxii 'Atlas Gold' JCA805Y, few >> 21. Narcissus romieuxii subsp. albidus var. tananicus N002 >> 22. Narcissus sp w/c Oukaimeden N086 >> 23. Narcissus 'Stocken's Gib' >> 24. Narcissus 'Tarlatan' >> 25. Narcissus 'Treble Chance' JCA805, N066 >> 26. Narcissus Mixed Seedlings >> These date back to a mass sowing in 2004 of seed from moderately >> controlled crosses of romieuxii, cantabricus, albidus, zaianicus, and >> similar early blooming sorts of the bulbocodium group. Colors tend to be >> light yellow through cream to white, and flowers are large, much larger >> than the little gold colored bulbocodiums of spring. These have been >> selected four times, and the keepers are choice. Similar to my 2012 and >> 2014 PBS offerings. >> >> >> Thank you, Roy !! >> >> Best wishes, >> Dell >> >> Dell Sherk, PBS BX >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 163, Issue 7 > *********************************** From robin@hansennursery.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <004901d1f8d5$83bf4d50$8b3de7f0$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: Illahe Nursery was pbs Digest, Vol 163, Issue 7 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 15:20:08 -0700 Rodger and all, Mark has no database as such. He types up a list, emails it to those requesting it, and ships in order of receipts. He's a small grower of very specialized bulbs and does this once a year in August. As he knows, I would love to see him go into the business full-time, as such specialist growers are dwindling far too rapidly. Unfortunately, it's a lot harder to start up a nursery and make it a full-time job than it was when I started 30 years ago. I just hope he hangs in there. And I also hope that as we all can, we encourage new young growers to get into the specialty plant fields by supporting them in any way we can. I've watched the true specialist cyclamen growers dwindle to one or two, seed collectors the same, and Nancy Wilson also... not good for any of us. Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com From msittner@mcn.org Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mary Sue Ittner Subject: Ordering from the BX Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:29:45 -0700 I'd like to remind everyone that messages to the pbs list are archived and don't go away. So when you order from the BX through the list instead of emailing Dell directly as he requests, your address is easily accessed through a search engine. From janjeddeloh@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <952CB514-F435-4CD2-85E1-892CA2E4BF5D@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh Subject: Apologies Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:43:38 -0700 My apologies for accidentally spamming the board with my Bulb Exchange request. I know where I should send it, namely direct to Dell, but in my rush to get some goodies, screwed up and sent it to the board. Sorry. Jan From prallen2@peoplepc.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <10851790.1471519011551.JavaMail.wam@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: patty allen Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 06:16:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Good Morning Dell, I just this morning renewed my membership with the PBS. Is there any offerings of Rainlilies available and if so would you be so kind as to forward any availabilities to me? Sincerely, Patty Allen -----Original Message----- >From: Dell Sherk >Sent: Aug 17, 2016 11:49 AM >To: pbs >Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 > >Dear All, > >      The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. >If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at > >mailto: ds429@frontier.com >  >Include "BX 406" in the subject line. > > >        Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added. > >    Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: > >        If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > >Dell Sherk >55 W. High St. >Salem, WV 26426 >USA > >Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. > >ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > >Dell's email address >ds429@frontier.com > >Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. > > >            I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. >IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > >From Roy Herold (ALL BULBS, some in short supply) > >1. Cyrtanthus epiphyticus ex BX154 >2. Freesia laxa 'Joan Evans' >3. Lapeirousia jacquinii >4. Massonia sp. Roggeveld, NNBH3851, hand pollinated >5. Narcissus “albidus occidentalis” N028 >6. Narcissus “albidus zaianicus” >7. Narcissus bulbocodium ex Morocco, few >8. Narcissus bulbocodium var. graellsii N007 >9. Narcissus bulbocodium N020 >10. Narcissus bulbocodium var. obesus N024 >11. Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. praecox (paucinervis) ex BX348 >12. Narcissus bulbocodium var. tenuifolius N022 >13. Narcissus cantabricus var. foliosus N001 >14. Narcissus cantabricus 'Peppermint' >15. Narcissus 'Joy Bishop' N068 > >The three types of Julia Jane are slightly different from one another. > >16. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #1, N106, ex McGary >17. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #2, ex Odyssey >18. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #3, ex SRGC >19. Narcissus nevadensis, N087 >20. Narcissus romieuxii 'Atlas Gold' JCA805Y, few >21. Narcissus romieuxii subsp. albidus var. tananicus N002 >22. Narcissus sp w/c Oukaimeden N086 >23. Narcissus 'Stocken's Gib' >24. Narcissus 'Tarlatan' >25. Narcissus 'Treble Chance' JCA805, N066 >26. Narcissus Mixed Seedlings >These date back to a mass sowing in 2004 of seed from moderately >controlled crosses of romieuxii, cantabricus, albidus, zaianicus, and >similar early blooming sorts of the bulbocodium group. Colors tend to be >light yellow through cream to white, and flowers are large, much larger >than the little gold colored bulbocodiums of spring. These have been >selected four times, and the keepers are choice. Similar to my 2012 and >2014 PBS offerings. > > >Thank you, Roy !! > >Best wishes, >Dell > >Dell Sherk, PBS BX > >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <51129292.18770697.1471526528212.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Dear Jan, Both the erythroniums and trilliums would be most welcome. Best, Dell -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/17/16, Jan Jeddeloh wrote: Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 5:13 PM Apparently I’m already late to the party so I’ll take some of #26 and any other narcissus still available except Jane McGary’s “Julie Jane” (already have it).  I would love it if I could get a bit of #10, Narcissus bulbocodium v obesus.  I saw it in bloom in Portugal this spring and it’s adorable.  Did you get my previous email asking if Erythronium revolutum and small rhizome of Trillium kurababyashii would be appropriate for the Bulb X?  Thank you, Jan Jeddeloh 1315 NW 174th Pl. Beaverton, OR 97006 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <2009856242.18646509.1471528034627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:47:14 +0000 (UTC) No, there are not any rainlilies available at this time. The message about rainlilies was mistakenly re-posted by someone. Dell -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 8/18/16, patty allen wrote: Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016, 7:16 AM Good Morning Dell, I just this morning renewed my membership with the PBS. Is there any offerings of Rainlilies available and if so would you be so kind as to forward any availabilities to me? Sincerely, Patty Allen -----Original Message----- >From: Dell Sherk >Sent: Aug 17, 2016 11:49 AM >To: pbs >Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 > >Dear All, > >      The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. >If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at > >mailto: ds429@frontier.com >  >Include "BX 406" in the subject line. > > >        Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added. > >    Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: > >        If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > >Dell Sherk >55 W. High St. >Salem, WV 26426 >USA > >Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. > >ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > >Dell's email address >ds429@frontier.com > >Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. > > >            I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. >IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > >From Roy Herold (ALL BULBS, some in short supply) > >1. Cyrtanthus epiphyticus ex BX154 >2. Freesia laxa 'Joan Evans' >3. Lapeirousia jacquinii >4. Massonia sp. Roggeveld, NNBH3851, hand pollinated >5. Narcissus “albidus occidentalis” N028 >6. Narcissus “albidus zaianicus” >7. Narcissus bulbocodium ex Morocco, few >8. Narcissus bulbocodium var. graellsii N007 >9. Narcissus bulbocodium N020 >10. Narcissus bulbocodium var. obesus N024 >11. Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. praecox (paucinervis) ex BX348 >12. Narcissus bulbocodium var. tenuifolius N022 >13. Narcissus cantabricus var. foliosus N001 >14. Narcissus cantabricus 'Peppermint' >15. Narcissus 'Joy Bishop' N068 > >The three types of Julia Jane are slightly different from one another. > >16. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #1, N106, ex McGary >17. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #2, ex Odyssey >18. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #3, ex SRGC >19. Narcissus nevadensis, N087 >20. Narcissus romieuxii 'Atlas Gold' JCA805Y, few >21. Narcissus romieuxii subsp. albidus var. tananicus N002 >22. Narcissus sp w/c Oukaimeden N086 >23. Narcissus 'Stocken's Gib' >24. Narcissus 'Tarlatan' >25. Narcissus 'Treble Chance' JCA805, N066 >26. Narcissus Mixed Seedlings >These date back to a mass sowing in 2004 of seed from moderately >controlled crosses of romieuxii, cantabricus, albidus, zaianicus, and >similar early blooming sorts of the bulbocodium group. Colors tend to be >light yellow through cream to white, and flowers are large, much larger >than the little gold colored bulbocodiums of spring. These have been >selected four times, and the keepers are choice. Similar to my 2012 and >2014 PBS offerings. > > >Thank you, Roy !! > >Best wishes, >Dell > >Dell Sherk, PBS BX > >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janjeddeloh@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <93982212-E238-4FDA-885B-20DA61215D6A@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 07:57:35 -0700 Ok. Will be gone next week but will sent them the week after. You probably need time to deal with the rather large BX 426 anyway and it’s hotter than hell in Portland. Jan > On Aug 18, 2016, at 6:22 AM, ds429 wrote: > > Dear Jan, > > Both the erythroniums and trilliums would be most welcome. > > Best, > Dell > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 8/17/16, Jan Jeddeloh wrote: > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" > Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2016, 5:13 PM > > > Apparently I’m already late to the party so > I’ll take some of #26 and any other narcissus still > available except Jane McGary’s “Julie Jane” (already > have it). I would love it if I could get a bit of #10, > Narcissus bulbocodium v obesus. I saw it in bloom in > Portugal this spring and it’s adorable. > > Did you get my previous email > asking if Erythronium revolutum and small rhizome of > Trillium kurababyashii would be appropriate for the Bulb > X? > > Thank you, > Jan Jeddeloh > 1315 NW 174th > Pl. > Beaverton, OR 97006 > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From prallen2@peoplepc.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <20789829.1471546254233.JavaMail.wam@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: patty allen Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:50:53 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Hi Dell, Thanks, I did find that out later. Its still rain lily season down here in Texas and probably all over, so I will keep my eyes peeled for your next offerings. I might even have some a little later that I could donate. Regards, Patty allen -----Original Message----- >From: ds429 >Sent: Aug 18, 2016 8:47 AM >To: Pacific Bulb Society >Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 > >No, there are not any rainlilies available at this time. The message about rainlilies was mistakenly re-posted by someone. > >Dell >-------------------------------------------- >On Thu, 8/18/16, patty allen wrote: > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" > Date: Thursday, August 18, 2016, 7:16 AM > > Good Morning Dell, > > I just this morning renewed my membership with the PBS. > Is there any offerings of Rainlilies available and if so > would you be so kind as to forward any availabilities to > me? > > Sincerely, > Patty Allen > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Dell Sherk > >Sent: Aug 17, 2016 11:49 AM > >To: pbs > >Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 406 > > > >Dear All, > > > >      The items listed below have been donated by our > members and friends to be shared. > >If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please > email me PRIVATELY at > > > >mailto: ds429@frontier.com > >  > >Include "BX 406" in the subject line. > > > > > >        Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you > would like; do not specify quantities. It is a good idea to > include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not > already have it. Availability is based on a first come, > first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you > will find, included with them, a statement of how much money > (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or > seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; > no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. > Postage and packaging charges are added. > > > >    Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist > which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb > Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX > OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the > Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider > joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such > as this. Go to our website: > > > >        If you would like to donate seeds or > bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX > for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send > CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > > > >Dell Sherk > >55 W. High St. > >Salem, WV 26426 > >USA > > > >Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions > before sending seeds. > > > >ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > > > >Dell's email address > >ds429@frontier.com > > > >Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS > members by mistake. > > > > > >            I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF > MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. > >IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > > > >From Roy Herold (ALL BULBS, some in short supply) > > > >1. Cyrtanthus epiphyticus ex BX154 > >2. Freesia laxa 'Joan Evans' > >3. Lapeirousia jacquinii > >4. Massonia sp. Roggeveld, NNBH3851, hand pollinated > >5. Narcissus “albidus occidentalis” N028 > >6. Narcissus “albidus zaianicus” > >7. Narcissus bulbocodium ex Morocco, few > >8. Narcissus bulbocodium var. graellsii N007 > >9. Narcissus bulbocodium N020 > >10. Narcissus bulbocodium var. obesus N024 > >11. Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. praecox (paucinervis) > ex BX348 > >12. Narcissus bulbocodium var. tenuifolius N022 > >13. Narcissus cantabricus var. foliosus N001 > >14. Narcissus cantabricus 'Peppermint' > >15. Narcissus 'Joy Bishop' N068 > > > >The three types of Julia Jane are slightly different > from one another. > > > >16. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #1, N106, ex McGary > >17. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #2, ex Odyssey > >18. Narcissus 'Julia Jane' #3, ex SRGC > >19. Narcissus nevadensis, N087 > >20. Narcissus romieuxii 'Atlas Gold' JCA805Y, few > >21. Narcissus romieuxii subsp. albidus var. tananicus > N002 > >22. Narcissus sp w/c Oukaimeden N086 > >23. Narcissus 'Stocken's Gib' > >24. Narcissus 'Tarlatan' > >25. Narcissus 'Treble Chance' JCA805, N066 > >26. Narcissus Mixed Seedlings > >These date back to a mass sowing in 2004 of seed from > moderately > >controlled crosses of romieuxii, cantabricus, albidus, > zaianicus, and > >similar early blooming sorts of the bulbocodium group. > Colors tend to be > >light yellow through cream to white, and flowers are > large, much larger > >than the little gold colored bulbocodiums of spring. > These have been > >selected four times, and the keepers are choice. Similar > to my 2012 and > >2014 PBS offerings. > > > > > >Thank you, Roy !! > > > >Best wishes, > >Dell > > > >Dell Sherk, PBS BX > > > >_______________________________________________ > >pbs mailing list > >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From rdevries@comcast.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <293262CD-D80D-4D60-98B4-64E38662CCCE@comcast.net> From: Rimmer deVries Subject: need help of zephyranthes Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 15:30:42 -0400 Try this https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qfm2hdh2bqjj07d/AADSbS9gB9Xn9tS9p4AU_e0Va?dl=0 Or http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13909.msg356589#msg356589 Rimmer From jazamah@hotmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: jose zaldivar Subject: need help of zephyranthes Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 00:56:07 +0000 Rimmer Thank you. I will check. Regards Jose Zaldivar ________________________________ De: pbs en nombre de Rimmer deVries Enviado: jueves, 18 de agosto de 2016 07:30 p. m. Para: Pacific Bulb Society Asunto: Re: [pbs] need help of zephyranthes Try this https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qfm2hdh2bqjj07d/AADSbS9gB9Xn9tS9p4AU_e0Va?dl=0 Or http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13909.msg356589#msg356589 Rimmer From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <133517758.18955083.1471613083703.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: The oporanthous garden Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Here we are in the middle of August and hardly a peep on the listserv about oporanthous bulbs. Nhu's call for reports about Amaryllis belladonna has gone largely unanswered, and I have not seen Lycoris mentioned once recently. At the end of July a huge storm passed through the eastern states dumping loads of water and causing regional flooding. Ellicott City, Maryland was particularly hard hit. As I was driving home late at night Saturday, July 31, I passed a small pond where the tree frogs were really going at it. When I got home, I called Wayne and told him about the frogs: we hear them now and then, but never in numbers like the rains brought out. He got his camera and a flashlight and headed on foot up to the pond and got some nice videos of the frogs calling. You can see and hear them here: http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2016/08/gray-tree-frogs-urban-batrachoscopist.html Within a few days of the heavy rain, reports began to circulate about Lycoris squamigera scapes being on the rise; before the end of the week, they were in bloom here in the greater Washington, D.C. area. They are still blooming, and I've heard reports about L. longituba and L. sanguinea blooming, too.  There are also Zephyranthes blooming: those big bulbs of Z. smallii received from BX 402 soon popped into bloom: This Zephyranthes has the oddest flowers I've ever seen on a member of this genus: they have the cupped shape of a tulip rather than the amaryllis shape of the others I know. And it has a great fragrance. I'll try to send some seeds to the BX.  The rains also brought up the first two ×Amarcrinum of the year. These are hardy here and make great garden plants. But my plants have been a bit shy about blooming.  Lots of gesneriads are blooming now: Achimenes and various Sinningia (tubiflora, selowii, hybrids such as 'Scarlett O'Hara' speciosa in wild and cultivated forms). I grew up thinking of Sinningia speciosa as a greenhouse plant requiring pampering: in fact, it does very well as a garden plant during the frost-free season.  I bought dozens of Achimenes, and so far not one has turned out to be true to name. What a bother - but true to name or not, they are very beautiful.  Evidently, there are some very keen Achimenes growers in Russia: several YouTube videos that I've seen lately have given me new ideas of what these plants are capable of.  Achimenes pedunculata from a BX offering a few years ago (thanks Uli!) has really come into its own this year. It has produced a rigidly upright stem not at all like the floppy hybrid sorts: it looks robust enough to use in a garden border. It's not in bloom yet but I have big expectations for it.  We're in that part of the year when it's very easy to think of things inside which must be done - and to avoid going out into the garden. Daytime highs are over 90 degrees F (we've topped 100 on several days) but the killers are the nights when temperatures do not drop below 80 degrees with humidity. I break down and run the AC during these conditions.  My Nerine have me puzzled: during the last few weeks, all of the old foliage has been dying off. But almost all of the plants are retaining newer, healthy,  dark green foliage. They don't look like they are about to enter dormancy.   I still have some gladiolus corms which I have not planted. I'll try to get them in this week. The idea is to see if I can get plants blooming in late October for my birthday. I'll let you know what happens.  Off topic (unless there is a caudex in the tub): a plant of Ipomoea indica has swarmed over and covered an 8'x8' wall space - so far, there is no sign of blooms. Uli's Ipomoea lindheimeri, stored indoors last winter, survived the rat attacks (but did get gnawed down) and has produced a handsome plant this year. This one is definitely a morning glory: the large, light blue flowers start to wither at about 9:30 A.M.  Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where my order from the Aril Society International arrived yesterday: exciting stuff here! Yesterday, I went out and checked my clumps of Iris kirkwoodiae and I. iberica and they look fine: the rhizomes are firm and promising.    _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <08F39AE6-E4E6-4F1F-9B2B-43B9DE90295A@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:30:55 -0500 Dear PBSers, This has been an exceedingly hot and dry summer and that is always bad for Lycoris bloom. The VERY common L. squamigera bloomed and is almost over. Bloom time seems to be spread out by variation in planting sites with hottest driest being slower to bloom. Some of the first are done and others at peak. It is the most common, easiest and most tolerant of planting situations. Still I go past gardens where clumps and lines of gorgeous blooms are gone due to the ignorance of gardeners intent on weekly mowing, lawn services and weed and feed killers. Very sad. I had just average bloom on L. chinensis in variety and same for L. longitiuba and L. l. flavum and all their hybrids. As these finished the L. sprengeri started up including some from near solid pale pink to electric blue and everything in between. The current round is the end of L. sprengeri and a slow show of L. incarnata and L. anhuiensis. Still no rain and bloom keeps getting worse. I am wondering if L. caldwellii and hybrids will appear at all. There were a couple of very out-of synch ‘Breaking Dawn’ - perhaps my favorite hybrid with orange-peach flowers. I doubt I’ll see anything from the marginal species like haywardii and albiflora - much too dry and fingers crossed for end of season L. radiata and relatives. A poor poor season here. Forecast calls for rain, but all previous forecasts have resulted in none or countable drops. Frustrating climate changes. Jim w. On Aug 19, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Jim McKenney wrote: Here we are in the middle of August and hardly a peep on the listserv about oporanthous bulbs. Nhu's call for reports about Amaryllis belladonna has gone largely unanswered, and I have not seen Lycoris mentioned once recently. At the end of July a huge storm passed through the eastern states dumping loads of water and causing regional flooding. Ellicott City, Maryland was particularly hard hit. As I was driving home late at night Saturday, July 31, I passed a small pond where the tree frogs were really going at it. When I got home, I called Wayne and told him about the frogs: we hear them now and then, but never in numbers like the rains brought out. He got his camera and a flashlight and headed on foot up to the pond and got some nice videos of the frogs calling. You can see and hear them here: http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2016/08/gray-tree-frogs-urban-batrachoscopist.html Within a few days of the heavy rain, reports began to circulate about Lycoris squamigera scapes being on the rise; before the end of the week, they were in bloom here in the greater Washington, D.C. area. They are still blooming, and I've heard reports about L. longituba and L. sanguinea blooming, too. Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From lakedees@aol.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <156a3de0d70-3b9f-6ee2@webprd-m12.mail.aol.com> From: Lakedees Subject: Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:34:13 -0400 Here in North Carolina we have had the same lycoris bloom as Jim and we are waiting the bulk of hybrids to bloom. It is hot and dry and lots of blooms were not as large or numerous as last year even though we thought this would be a banner year. Most of the Caldwell hybrids have not bloomed yet and the bulk of Komoriya hybrids along with radiata and double flowered radiata plenum have yet to bloom but it is still early. George Dees Zone 7b Liberty, NC. From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <983577.41140.bm@smtp216.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Dell Sherk Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:44:46 -0400 My L. squamigera put up only two scapes (instead of the fifty? I was expecting) L. radiata bloomed very early, the petals looked sunburned by the second day, and now they’re gone. L. sprengeri put up one scape and lasted less than a week. I am bummed out! Dell N. Central West Virginia, 5>=Z<=7 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: James Waddick _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From fbiasella@watertownsavings.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <8B527E4BF1849349A39D95E700706C61681FEB28@S1P5DAG5B.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> From: Fred Biasella Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 19:51:28 +0000 In my "Dust Bowl" garden, just one L. squamigera popped out. Normally I get quite a few of them, but not until the end of August to the beginning of September. This year has been unbelievably hot and dry (no appreciable rain for three months) and I think that may have been a contributing factor. Fred Biasella Zone 6b ...and officially in a severe drought!!!! -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dell Sherk Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:45 PM To: James Waddick ; Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Fast Lycoris report My L. squamigera put up only two scapes (instead of the fifty? I was expecting) L. radiata bloomed very early, the petals looked sunburned by the second day, and now they’re gone. L. sprengeri put up one scape and lasted less than a week. I am bummed out! Dell N. Central West Virginia, 5>=Z<=7 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: James Waddick _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jshields46074@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: James SHIELDS Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 15:56:11 -0400 Hi all, A week or so ago, my Lycoris in the irrigated bed bloomed and are now almost over. In my non-watered beds, there were only a few spotty blooms. On Friday (a week ago), Saturday, and Sunday, we had ca 3 inches (ca. 75 mm) of rain here on my place. Today, a mass of Lycoris chinensis are bursting into bloom today, in the non-irrigated bed. The water seems to play a big role in producing the blooms. Jim -- James Shields jshields46074@gmail.com P.O. Box 92 Westfield, IN 46074 U.S.A. From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <70847AC2-5DFD-4A5E-BD11-4AE540D98EB0@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:48:14 -0500 Dear Jim and all, I am convinced water is essential to Lycoris bloom. Foremost is the fact that threse live in deciduous forests, stream side and other places where they are never or rarely water stressed. In cultivation they seem to react to drought badly. They definiterly are not in need of summer baking. Most if not all are found in at least partial shade, but some tolerate more sun. I have repeatedly observed a delayed bloom, but almost instant recovery after a drenching rain. Even though my early Lycoris are done blooming a forecast of 1- 2 inches for tonight may well bring out some more of those that did not manage to push up stalks earlier. I am surprtised to find a single stalk of L. haywardii in bloom today. This is marginally hardy, but in a protected spot. Love the rich colors and wish it were more vigorous, but glad to see it even so. Hopefully the forecast rain will bring me more flower stalks. Hoope everyone with a dry garden gets some rain soon. Best Jim W. On Aug 19, 2016, at 2:56 PM, James SHIELDS wrote: Hi all, A week or so ago, my Lycoris in the irrigated bed bloomed and are now almost over. In my non-watered beds, there were only a few spotty blooms. On Friday (a week ago), Saturday, and Sunday, we had ca 3 inches (ca. 75 mm) of rain here on my place. Today, a mass of Lycoris chinensis are bursting into bloom today, in the non-irrigated bed. The water seems to play a big role in producing the blooms. Jim -- James Shields jshields46074@gmail.com P.O. Box 92 Westfield, IN 46074 U.S.A. Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 From klazina1@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Ina Crossley Subject: info on Zephyranthes and Habranthus Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 09:59:10 +1200 Jose, there are a lot of files on the Zephyranthes y Habranthus group on Facebook, which probably cover what you are looking for. Ina Crossley From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:58:09 -0700 Nothing here yet from either bed of my L. radiata. It's been slightly hotter than usual, with only a few rain spells. I water one of the beds regularly; it blooms seldom. I water the other bed not at all. It blooms more often. Splain me that, Lucy. Leo Martin Zone ? Phoenix Arizona USA From janjeddeloh@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jan Jeddeloh Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:33:22 -0700 So I bought Lycoris radiata from Brent and Becky’s this spring. Planted them in a pot and kept them pretty dry. This appears to be my bad. The bulbs are firm and appear rooted. So I should start dumping water on them even though it’s about 100F her today and similar forecast for tomorrow? Jan Jeddeloh Portland, Oregon, zone 8 > On Aug 19, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Leo Martin wrote: > > Nothing here yet from either bed of my L. radiata. It's been slightly > hotter than usual, with only a few rain spells. I water one of the beds > regularly; it blooms seldom. I water the other bed not at all. It blooms > more often. Splain me that, Lucy. > > Leo Martin > Zone ? > Phoenix Arizona USA > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From rrodich@juno.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 21:05:58 -0500 Here in zone 4 just west of Minneapolis, L. squamigera is the only one that does well. I've had plenty of rain throughout the season and bloom is normal. I still have one L. chinensis that peaks out in the spring with several 8-10 inch leaves, surviving for seven years with only a few inches of mulch. This is the last of several I received from James Waddick. (Never bloomed, not surprisingly) I also have several L. radiata here, never able to really cope with the whacky climate here compared to what it needs. But they are still here, just surviving, unprotected in the ground for eleven years. Five plants, out of about 20 original bulbs. Rick Rodich just west of Minneapolis, MN zone 4 ____________________________________________________________ EverydayLivingHealth (Sponsored by Content.Ad) 62Year Old Wife Surprises Husband, Cries After Sees Makeover http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/57b7bb491fc293b495b51st01duc From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <6ffb53b0-d21e-7a13-ed26-7fa16bf7bc06@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Request for Crinum zeylanicum Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 11:05:07 -0700 Guillermo Baquerizo in Guayaquil, Ecuador is searching for material of Crinum zeylanicum. Please write to him directly if you can help. Reply-To: Guillermo Baquerizo Pacific Bulb Society On 8/19/2016 8:25 AM, Apache wrote: > This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. > > greetings, very good morning > They would have the kindness of its members who are collectors of plants crinum, find out, who can sell me one or two plants Crinum zeylanicum? > > grateful for the kindness given > From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <51db038e-179c-70e8-4edc-0eb81c1a371f@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Late summer bulbs (was Oporanthous bulbs) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 11:37:21 -0700 I trust Jim McKenney will forgive me for substituting plain English for his neologism "oporanthous" (I cannot trace it back any further than an old synonym for Sternbergia, and the only way I can derive that is a crasis form of a Greek phrase meaning roughly "O, flower hard to get," which in these days of CITES is rather apt). Nonetheless, in my plain American garden a number of bulbs are flowering a bit ahead of schedule, possibly because of the very warm late spring just past. Cyclamen graecum is flowering in the dry part of the bulb house, but not in its tufa-based bed in the open garden. Cyclamen hederifolium is starting up, mostly growing on the root zone of two huge Douglas firs (Pseudotsuga menziesii, the curse of the Northwest garden). The first colchicum was Colchicum kotschyi (under cover), followed closely by another medium-sized species, Colchicum hierosolymitanum ("of Jerusalem"). The Merendera species, or Colchicum if one lumps them, haven't appeared yet, perhaps because I lifted and potted them to escape a drainage problem where they were growing. The first in the garden is the large white cultivar 'Innocence', formerly known as C. byzantinum 'Album'. Acis autumnalis (which has a subsp. oporanthus) has popped up in the bulb lawn, where perhaps the turf keeps it cooler than its other spot on the rock garden. A few Prospero autumnalis (syn. Scilla autumnalis) have appeared. Thanks to Joyce Miller, I now have some Crinum, probably the pink and white forms of Crinum x powellii, and they flowered a couple of weeks ago. I hope I can keep them going, but adequate moisture will be a challenge. They should be a bit hardier than tuberoses (Polianthes tuberosa), which has opened in its pot and must be kept dormant indoors in winter here--a lovely fragrance on the patio at night, mingling with the breeze-wafted honeysuckle. Not many western American bulbs flower at this season, but there is an odd onion, Allium sanbornii, which produces its dark pink flowers now, long after its western relatives have gone dormant. I grow it fairly dry. Sternbergia (syn. Oporanthus!) has not flowered yet, but they survived the aforementioned drainage disaster well, and I have some to send to the BX next week. Please share them equitably! Jane McGary not gardening today, it's far too hot in Portland, Oregon (but the humidity is 15%) From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1692022119.19588407.1471723673472.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Oporanthous, its etymology; was Re: Late summer bulbs (was Oporanthous bulbs) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 20:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Yes, plain English is almost always better than something most people won't understand.  Let me make oporanthous a little easier to understand. I've been using it since 2007.  It's derived from the Classical Greek word ὀπώρα. If your screen does not print Greek characters, the conventional transliteration of that word would be opōra. In modern Greek it means fruit.Here's the translation given in Liddell & Scott, the standard Classical Greek-English lexicon:  “ὀπώρα…the part of the year between the rising of Sirius and of Arcturus (i.e. the last days of July, all Aug., and part of Sept.), the latter part of summer;…” Sirius is sometimes called the dog star, thus our expression "the dog days of summer". And to me, although that's plainer and more poetic English than "late summer",  I suspect that most people don't really know why the dog days are so called. It's apparently still Greek to most people!  In my climate, this word oporanthous exactly describes the season of Lycoris, Sternbergia, many Colchicum - all bulbs often mistakenly described as autumnal.  There are certainly Colchicum which are not oporanthous - members of that genus bloom from late summer until late winter. And there are Sternbergia which bloom in late winter, and the occasional Lycoris blooms in true autumn. But the word oporanthous is useful for calling attention to bulb activity in late summer, to call attention to the fact that it is something which happens predictably at about the same time each year and well before the onset of autumn in late September.  There is another important bulb season which does not have a familiar name in English: the late winter days when snowdrops, crocuses, winter aconites, reticulate irises and so many other important bulbs bloom. Karl Foerster, in one of his early works ( Vom Blütengartender Zukunft, 1922) uses the German word Vorfrühling for this period. That translates literally as "pre-spring". I'm sure Vorfrühling falls more gently on the ears of German speakers than "pre-spring" does on the ears of English speakers. When I'm talking to myself, so-to-speak, I use Vorfrühling.  Someone needs to come up with a more felicitous translation for those of us who speak English.  JimMcKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where the dogs are panting hard!  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From cortocora@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: "L. Cortopassi - G. Corazza" Subject: Oporanthous, its etymology; was Re: Late summer bulbs (was Oporanthous bulbs) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 23:06:45 +0200 Just to create an other neologism we could use "antoporanthous" for the "pre-spring" flowering plants. It means "flowering in the season opposite to opōra" (like arctic/antarctic). Gianluca Corazza, Italy, Z9a 2016-08-20 22:07 GMT+02:00 Jim McKenney : > Yes, plain English is almost always better than something most people > won't understand. > Let me make oporanthous a little easier to understand. I've been using it > since 2007. > It's derived from the Classical Greek word ὀπώρα. If your screen does not > print Greek characters, the conventional transliteration of that word would > be opōra. In modern Greek it means fruit.Here's the translation given in > Liddell & Scott, the standard Classical Greek-English lexicon: > > “ὀπώρα…the part of the year between the rising of Sirius and of Arcturus > (i.e. the last days of July, all Aug., and part of Sept.), the latter part > of summer;…” > > > Sirius is sometimes called the dog star, thus our expression "the dog days > of summer". And to me, although that's plainer and more poetic English than > "late summer", I suspect that most people don't really know why the dog > days are so called. It's apparently still Greek to most people! > In my climate, this word oporanthous exactly describes the season of > Lycoris, Sternbergia, many Colchicum - all bulbs often mistakenly described > as autumnal. There are certainly Colchicum which are not oporanthous - > members of that genus bloom from late summer until late winter. And there > are Sternbergia which bloom in late winter, and the occasional Lycoris > blooms in true autumn. But the word oporanthous is useful for calling > attention to bulb activity in late summer, to call attention to the fact > that it is something which happens predictably at about the same time each > year and well before the onset of autumn in late September. > There is another important bulb season which does not have a familiar name > in English: the late winter days when snowdrops, crocuses, winter aconites, > reticulate irises and so many other important bulbs bloom. Karl Foerster, > in one of his early works ( Vom Blütengartender Zukunft, 1922) uses the > German word Vorfrühling for this period. That translates literally as > "pre-spring". I'm sure Vorfrühling falls more gently on the ears of German > speakers than "pre-spring" does on the ears of English speakers. When I'm > talking to myself, so-to-speak, I use Vorfrühling. Someone needs to come > up with a more felicitous translation for those of us who speak English. > JimMcKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where the dogs > are panting hard! > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1803715281.5087683.1471727820288.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Oporanthous, its etymology; was Re: Late summer bulbs (was Oporanthous bulbs) Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 21:17:00 +0000 (UTC) I like it, Gianluca!  Jim McKenney From: L. Cortopassi - G. Corazza To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [pbs] Oporanthous, its etymology; was Re: Late summer bulbs (was Oporanthous bulbs) Just to create an other neologism we could use "antoporanthous" for the "pre-spring" flowering plants. It means "flowering in the season opposite to opōra" (like arctic/antarctic). Gianluca Corazza, Italy, Z9a 2016-08-20 22:07 GMT+02:00 Jim McKenney : > Yes, plain English is almost always better than something most people > won't understand. > Let me make oporanthous a little easier to understand. I've been using it > since 2007. > It's derived from the Classical Greek word ὀπώρα. If your screen does not > print Greek characters, the conventional transliteration of that word would > be opōra. In modern Greek it means fruit.Here's the translation given in > Liddell & Scott, the standard Classical Greek-English lexicon: > > “ὀπώρα…the part of the year between the rising of Sirius and of Arcturus > (i.e. the last days of July, all Aug., and part of Sept.), the latter part > of summer;…” > > > Sirius is sometimes called the dog star, thus our expression "the dog days > of summer". And to me, although that's plainer and more poetic English than > "late summer",  I suspect that most people don't really know why the dog > days are so called. It's apparently still Greek to most people! > In my climate, this word oporanthous exactly describes the season of > Lycoris, Sternbergia, many Colchicum - all bulbs often mistakenly described > as autumnal.  There are certainly Colchicum which are not oporanthous - > members of that genus bloom from late summer until late winter. And there > are Sternbergia which bloom in late winter, and the occasional Lycoris > blooms in true autumn. But the word oporanthous is useful for calling > attention to bulb activity in late summer, to call attention to the fact > that it is something which happens predictably at about the same time each > year and well before the onset of autumn in late September. > There is another important bulb season which does not have a familiar name > in English: the late winter days when snowdrops, crocuses, winter aconites, > reticulate irises and so many other important bulbs bloom. Karl Foerster, > in one of his early works ( Vom Blütengartender Zukunft, 1922) uses the > German word Vorfrühling for this period. That translates literally as > "pre-spring". I'm sure Vorfrühling falls more gently on the ears of German > speakers than "pre-spring" does on the ears of English speakers. When I'm > talking to myself, so-to-speak, I use Vorfrühling.  Someone needs to come > up with a more felicitous translation for those of us who speak English. > JimMcKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where the dogs > are panting hard! > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:28:05 -0500 SAme here Dell, I got dozens where I shoud have had hundreds. No sign of radiata or caldwellii and some hybrids yet -that’s good. Was surprised to see a single haywardii. It is very on the dege there. Chalk it up to horrible year or global warming - drought ..any thing that does repeat endlessly. Humbug. est Jim On Aug 19, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Dell Sherk wrote: My L. squamigera put up only two scapes (instead of the fifty? I was expecting) L. radiata bloomed very early, the petals looked sunburned by the second day, and now they’re gone. L. sprengeri put up one scape and lasted less than a week. I am bummed out! Dell N. Central West Virginia, 5>=Z<=7 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: James Waddick Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: What to do with potted Lycoris radiata Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 14:30:50 -0700 Jan wrote > So I bought Lycoris radiata from Brent and Becky's this spring. Planted > them in a pot and kept them pretty dry.... The bulbs are firm and appear > rooted.... should I... I would put them in the ground right now, this weekend, and water them regularly. The best time to move them is when they have roots but no tops. If you gently shake them to separate them without breaking roots, you can put them in different places. If you want them to remain together as a clump, you can do that, as well. Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: What to do with potted Lycoris radiata Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:41:46 -0500 Lycoris in general do poorly in pots. PERIOD. Lycoris hate to get summer baking PERIOD My suggestion - Plant in a semi-shady spot and water well. Cross fingers. Since Jan is in Zone 8, I also suggest shallow planting - barely cover the bulb or no more than an inch of soil over top of bulb. Wait. Good luck Jim w. On Aug 20, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Leo Martin wrote: Jan wrote > So I bought Lycoris radiata from Brent and Becky's this spring. Planted > them in a pot and kept them pretty dry.... The bulbs are firm and appear > rooted.... should I... I would put them in the ground right now, this weekend, and water them regularly. The best time to move them is when they have roots but no tops. If you gently shake them to separate them without breaking roots, you can put them in different places. If you want them to remain together as a clump, you can do that, as well. Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: Oporanthous, its etymology; was Re: Late summer bulbs Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 14:42:12 -0700 Jim wrote If your screen does not print Greek characters.... It doesn't. Maybe you could write it out in the English names for the greek letters? Lambda - iota - omicron - nu - tau - alpha - rho - iota Mu - alpha - rho - tau - iota - nu Phi - omicron - iota - nu - iota - xi Alpha - rho - iota - zeta - omega - nu - alpha From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <343BCB74-5E03-4E99-ADBF-DA10B9BB226F@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 16:44:01 -0500 Dear Rick, Not sure of specifics, but I think L. squamigera is the hardiest of the genus so survival in MN seems likely. Both chinensis and longituba are definitely less hardy, but if planted in a protected spot and perhaps deeper, you mgiht have better results. Now is a good time to dig and plant deeper. Good luck Jim W. On Aug 19, 2016, at 9:05 PM, rrodich@juno.com wrote: Here in zone 4 just west of Minneapolis, L. squamigera is the only one that does well. I've had plenty of rain throughout the season and bloom is normal. I still have one L. chinensis that peaks out in the spring with several 8-10 inch leaves, surviving for seven years with only a few inches of mulch. This is the last of several I received from James Waddick. (Never bloomed, not surprisingly) I also have several L. radiata here, never able to really cope with the whacky climate here compared to what it needs. But they are still here, just surviving, unprotected in the ground for eleven years. Five plants, out of about 20 original bulbs. Rick Rodich just west of Minneapolis, MN zone 4 ____________________________________________________________ EverydayLivingHealth (Sponsored by Content.Ad) 62Year Old Wife Surprises Husband, Cries After Sees Makeover http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/57b7bb491fc293b495b51st01duc Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <529275810.19557599.1471731312437.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:15:12 +0000 (UTC) Where hardiness is an issue, give Lycoris sanguinea a try. It was being grown in the Boston area a century ago.  Jim McKenney _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1811263115.19252101.1471732862130.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Oporanthous, its etymology; was Re: Late summer bulbs Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Leo wrote: "Maybe you could write it out in the English names for the greekletters?"omicron-pi-omega-rho-alpha Jim McKenney From kellso@irvincentral.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <4df65dc3-6d34-bc11-063b-93c70af20f66@irvincentral.com> From: Kelly Irvin Subject: Fast Lycoris report Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 20:17:34 -0500 Dear Jan: Yes, you can water them thoroughly, but you shouldn't need to keep watering them. Potted Lycoris can be unpredictable. Maybe water now and 10 days from now. -- Mr. Kelly M. Irvin 10850 Hodge Ln Gravette, AR 72736 USA Home Phone: 479-787-9958 USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelly.m.irvin On 8/19/16 7:33 PM, Jan Jeddeloh wrote: > So I bought Lycoris radiata from Brent and Becky’s this spring. Planted them in a pot and kept them pretty dry. This appears to be my bad. The bulbs are firm and appear rooted. So I should start dumping water on them even though it’s about 100F her today and similar forecast for tomorrow? > > Jan Jeddeloh > Portland, Oregon, zone 8 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janjeddeloh@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jan Jeddeloh Subject: What to do with potted Lycoris radiata Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 18:22:31 -0700 So should I knock them out of the pot and put them in the ground? I won’t have time for another week (vacation) but I could do it after I’m back. Maybe it will have cooled down by then. Jan > On Aug 20, 2016, at 2:41 PM, James Waddick wrote: > > Lycoris in general do poorly in pots. PERIOD. > > Lycoris hate to get summer baking PERIOD > > My suggestion - Plant in a semi-shady spot and water well. Cross fingers. > > Since Jan is in Zone 8, I also suggest shallow planting - barely cover the bulb or no more than an inch of soil over top of bulb. > > Wait. Good luck Jim w. > > > > > On Aug 20, 2016, at 4:30 PM, Leo Martin wrote: > > Jan wrote > > >> So I bought Lycoris radiata from Brent and Becky's this spring. Planted >> them in a pot and kept them pretty dry.... The bulbs are firm and appear >> rooted.... should I... > > > I would put them in the ground right now, this weekend, and water them > regularly. The best time to move them is when they have roots but no tops. > If you gently shake them to separate them without breaking roots, you can > put them in different places. If you want them to remain together as a > clump, you can do that, as well. > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jazamah@hotmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: jose zaldivar Subject: info on Zephyranthes and Habranthus Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:11:15 +0000 Ina Tahnk you for the information. Regards Jose Zaldivar ________________________________ De: pbs en nombre de Ina Crossley Enviado: viernes, 19 de agosto de 2016 09:59 p. m. Para: Pacific Bulb Society Asunto: [pbs] re info on Zephyranthes and Habranthus Jose, there are a lot of files on the Zephyranthes y Habranthus group on Facebook, which probably cover what you are looking for. Ina Crossley _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php Pacific Bulb Society | List pacificbulbsociety.org The PBS List is an email discussion of bulbs, sponsored by the Pacific Bulb Society, for people around the world. Although bulbs (defined more broadly to include all ... http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: What to do with potted Lycoris radiata Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 10:15:51 -0700 Jan wrote > So should I knock them out of the pot and put them in the ground? Yes. > I won't have time for another week (vacation) but I could do it after I'm back. We can only do what we can do. > Maybe it will have cooled down by then. That doesn't matter at all. Late August before they bloom is the best time to move them. From their perspective there is no heat in Portland. Leo Martin Zone 9? Phoenix Arizona USA From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary Subject: What to do with potted Lycoris radiata Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 10:42:07 -0700 I don't grow Lycoris, having failed with several kinds, but I have a thought about Leo's remark: > That doesn't matter at all. Late August before they bloom is the best time > to move them. From their perspective there is no heat in Portland. > There is heat in Portland (Oregon -- maybe not in Portland, Maine!) in the summer, but because it's associated with low atmospheric humidity (yesterday, 15%), it's hot only during the day. The temperature can fall 40 Fahrenheit degrees (e.g. from 38 C to 15.5 C) between its peak in late afternoon to the low around 3 am. It is thought that this cycling is one reason some kinds of plants from east Asia and eastern North American don't grow well here, though some (e.g., Hosta) do well. In addition, because of the proximity of the cold Pacific Ocean, hot periods here tend to be short. I would think that the US Southwest, where Leo lives, would be similar, but does the monsoon pattern bring atmospheric humidity there in late summer? We imagine deserts always have low humidity, but is that wrong? Jane McGary Portland, OR, USA From ksayce@willapabay.org Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Kathleen Sayce Subject: late summer bulbs Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:09:34 -0700 Flowering shoots have appeared on all the seedling Amaryllis belladonna bulbs, which I obtained as seeds from PBS BX some years ago. The first to flower was dark pink; this is much darker than my legacy bulbs from my parents’ yard. If memory serves, there will be white and white and pink striped flowers on the other two groups of new young bulbs. Acis autumnalis is flowering, also Colchicum agrippinum, buds on C. autumnale. In the cold frame, the Zephyranthes/Habranthus collection continues to pop out flowers every few weeks if I remember to soak the pots. Lycoris angustifolium is also flowering now. Putting a foot high ring of heavy mesh between the in-ground section and the tops has done wonders for keeping chipmunks out of the cold frame. But alas, they have found and eaten almost all the crocus in the garden. Kathleen From teck11@embarqmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <002101d1fbfd$d616c850$824458f0$@embarqmail.com> From: "Tim Eck" Subject: What to do with potted Lycoris radiata Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 18:46:19 -0400 > We imagine deserts always have low humidity, but is that wrong? > > Jane McGary My understanding is that many desert plants get the majority of their moisture from dew, so deserts aren't necessarily dry at night. Tim From petersirises@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Peter Taggart Subject: What to do with potted Lycoris radiata Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 00:15:44 +0100 My impression too! My thoughts on why unshaded glass is often too arid for arid climate plants unless it is damped down, (sprayed with water), fit with this idea..... Peter (UK) On 21 August 2016 at 23:46, Tim Eck wrote: > > > We imagine deserts always have low humidity, but is that wrong? > > > > Jane McGary > > > My understanding is that many desert plants get the majority of their > moisture from dew, so deserts aren't necessarily dry at night. > Tim > > From penstemon@Q.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: "penstemon" Subject: What to do with potted Lycoris radiata Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 17:57:40 -0600 >We imagine deserts always have low humidity, but is that wrong? Depends on the desert. Right now, it’s 37C in Phoenix, with 22 percent humidity. Here in Denver, it’s 30C, with 13 percent humidity. The high relative humidity last night, in Phoenix, was 54 percent; in Denver, 80 percent. (It’s been raining here, a little.) Bob Nold Denver, Colorado, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: A theoretical query about iris reticulata Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 23:22:45 -0500 Dear PBSers, Does any one in the US know if there is any one who grows/propagates cultivars of Iris reticulata in the US.? I know there are many common cvs imported by the ton annually, but there are also rarer ‘collectors’ cvs that are difficult to find. I can’t find a single nursery in the US that actually grows and sells their own Iris reticulata. Any one ? Thanks Jim Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From Miller7398@comcast.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <6AD3C2C908794158B3C239AA3CBEC449@OwnerPC> From: "Joyce Miller" Subject: A theoretical query about iris reticulata Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 09:25:58 -0700 Good morning James and all, The summer bulletin of Alpine Garden Society of British Columbia has an article on growing reticulated is in Canada. Author Mc -----Original Message----- From: James Waddick Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:22 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: [pbs] A theoretical query about iris reticulata Dear PBSers, Does any one in the US know if there is any one who grows/propagates cultivars of Iris reticulata in the US.? I know there are many common cvs imported by the ton annually, but there are also rarer ‘collectors’ cvs that are difficult to find. I can’t find a single nursery in the US that actually grows and sells their own Iris reticulata. Any one ? Thanks Jim Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwaddick@KC.RR.COM Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <40BD78AF-0F12-4FFE-B328-1110136340AD@KC.RR.COM> From: James Waddick Subject: Spathantheum Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 19:14:39 -0500 Dear Friends, I received a small tuber of Spathantheum from the BX this spring. It took months to emerge, but has produced a single leaf on a long pedicle. That’s it. I wonder if any one else has had this glorious success with this odd aroid. Comments appreciated. Best Jim W. Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From farmerguys08@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Paul Machado Subject: Spathantheum Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:12:29 -0700 Jim, Same results with my small tuber! All the best, Paul On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:14 PM, James Waddick wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I received a small tuber of Spathantheum from the BX this spring. > > It took months to emerge, but has produced a single leaf on a long > pedicle. That’s it. > > I wonder if any one else has had this glorious success with this > odd aroid. Comments appreciated. > > > Best Jim W. > > > > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@pilling.demon.co.uk Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <7c208a42-8dc8-7f13-995b-092bf6229a33@pilling.demon.co.uk> From: David Pilling Subject: Flowering now (test message) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 14:18:14 +0100 Hi, Flowering now in North West England - Begonias. No sign of the Amaryllis Belladonna. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1B9E820D-72F0-40FF-A4A8-E3A3B3A08910@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Spathantheum Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:30:36 -0500 Thanks Paul, I was wondering if any of these bloomed. Best Jim On Aug 23, 2016, at 10:12 PM, Paul Machado wrote: Jim, Same results with my small tuber! All the best, Paul On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:14 PM, James Waddick wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I received a small tuber of Spathantheum from the BX this spring. > > It took months to emerge, but has produced a single leaf on a long > pedicle. That’s it. > > I wonder if any one else has had this glorious success with this > odd aroid. Comments appreciated. > > > Best Jim W. > > > > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: Spathantheum Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:13:35 -0700 Wrote James Waddick: > Spathantheum from the BX.... > It took months to emerge, but > has produced a single leaf on > a long pedicle. That's it. > I wonder if any one else has had > this glorious success with this > odd aroid. You must be a great grower. Mine is still an upright spear of green. Leo Martin Zone ? Phoenix Arizona USA From tylus.seklos@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: The Silent Seed Subject: Spathantheum Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:18:28 -0400 Am I missing something? I had about 50 of them and they grew just like any other tuberous aroid. The big ones also flowered just as with Amorphophallus or Typhonium. On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Leo Martin wrote: > Wrote James Waddick: > > > Spathantheum from the BX.... > > It took months to emerge, but > > has produced a single leaf on > > a long pedicle. That's it. > > I wonder if any one else has had > > this glorious success with this > > odd aroid. > > You must be a great grower. Mine is still an upright spear of green. > > Leo Martin > Zone ? > Phoenix Arizona USA > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com From dkramb@badbear.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:05:44 -0400 Google tells me Rhodophiala has not been hybridized with Hippeastrum, but it has been crossed with Habranthus. Does anyone know of photos of this cross? Dennis in Cincinnati From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: Lycoris in pots Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:17:30 -0700 Jane McGary asked some questions, but I don't have the opportunity now for the detailed reply they deserve. So I'll reply later. Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA > I would think that the US Southwest, where Leo lives, would be similar, but does the monsoon pattern bring atmospheric humidity there in late summer? We imagine deserts always have low humidity, but is that wrong? From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary Subject: Seeking to contact Alan Horstman Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:18:17 -0700 Via the PBS website, I have received an inquiry seeking permission to reproduce one of Alan Horstman's photos from the PBS wiki. He is not on our membership roster, so I'm writing this to ask if someone knows how to forward the request to him. Thank you if you can help! Jane McGary Membership Coordinator, PBS From hheaven77@aol.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <156bd693eab-1398-1b6b@webprd-m01.mail.aol.com> From: Celeste Subject: Lycoris in pots Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:36:46 -0400 Hi All, Until Leo replies, I'm sending a link that is short and sweet from Ed Phillips who was a long-time weather man in Arizona. It explains the phenomena known as "monsoon" moisture in Arizona. http://ag.arizona.edu/maricopa/garden/html/weather/monsoon.htm Celeste Gornick Phoenix, AZ USA -----Original Message----- From: Leo Martin To: pbs Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2016 9:17 am Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris in pots Jane McGary asked some questions, but I don't have the opportunity now for the detailed reply they deserve. So I'll reply later. Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA > I would think that the US Southwest, where Leo lives, would be similar, but does the monsoon pattern bring atmospheric humidity there in late summer? We imagine deserts always have low humidity, but is that wrong? From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <805805.92184.bm@smtp201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Dell Sherk Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 407 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:36:04 -0400 Dear All,       The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at mailto:ds429@frontier.com   Include "BX 407" in the subject line.         SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of seeds or $2 - $5/share of bulbs or seeds)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to ; no money orders, please) you should send the PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added.     Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website:         If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Dell Sherk 55 W. High St. Salem, WV 26426 USA Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Dell's email address ds429@frontier.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.             I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! From Roy Herold: Bulbs: 1. Nerine “humilis breachiae” ex BX 214, offsets 2. Nerine hybrid G36 ex BX214, offsets 3. Nerine 'November Cheer' 4. Nerine sarniensis, screaming orange, offsets 5. Ornithogalum osmynellum  (Albuca osmynella) ex Hammer 6. Oxalis bowiei 7. Oxalis flava (lupinifolia) ex BX152 8. Oxalis gracilis BX207, ex Uli 10. Oxalis “polyphylla var. heptaphylla” 11. Oxalis sp. RH11, Silvermine. Found growing in running water, in shade. Flower similar to O. versicolor, but blooms in spring and is a much smaller plant. 12. Oxalis sp., flava group, big yellow fl, succulent blue lf, ex Uli Bx 183 13. Oxalis Uli 69 (flava?), ex BX152 14. Tecophilaea cyanocrocus var. leichtlinii, ex McGary, few The following tecophilaea hybrids are the result of hand pollinated, controlled greenhouse crosses. Curiously, most of the seedlings from the straight cyanocrocus parent look like leichtlinii. Perhaps the latter is dominant? 15. Tecophilaea hybrid (cyanocrocus var. leichtlinii x cyanocrocus), few 16. Tecophilaea hybrid (cyanocrocus x cyanocrocus var.  leichtlinii), few Seeds: (PLANT IMMEDIATELY) 17. Fresh seeds of Cyclamen rohlfsianum 93-14, large dark green, reniform leaves heavily marked with silver. Pink flowers. 18. Fresh seeds of Cyclamen rohlfsianum 93-8, medium green maple leaf shaped leaves, well marked. Pink flowers. 19. Fresh seeds of Cyclamen graecum 92-2, dark green leaves with bright silver markings. Pink flowers. From John Willis: (BULBS) 20. Oxalis bowiei 21.. Oxalis hirta, pink 22.  Oxalis “luteola glauca” 23. Oxalis “polyphylla var. heptaphylla” 24. Oxalis purpurea cv. 25. Oxalis purpurea ‘Skar’ Thank you, Roy and John !! Best wishes, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: Spathantheum Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:53:17 -0500 Dear Silent, I assume each had only a single leaf. Did they emerge late? Are they growing out doors and are they hardy? where are you? Any set seed, too.? How many years does itt take to get to blooming size? Thanks for the info. Jim w. On Aug 24, 2016, at 10:18 AM, The Silent Seed wrote: Am I missing something? I had about 50 of them and they grew just like any other tuberous aroid. The big ones also flowered just as with Amorphophallus or Typhonium. On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Leo Martin wrote: > Wrote James Waddick: > >> Spathantheum from the BX.... >> It took months to emerge, but >> has produced a single leaf on >> a long pedicle. That's it. >> I wonder if any one else has had >> this glorious success with this >> odd aroid. > > You must be a great grower. Mine is still an upright spear of green. > > Leo Martin > Zone ? > Phoenix Arizona USA > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 From petersirises@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Peter Taggart Subject: Flowering now (test message) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 18:54:49 +0100 Saw one flowering in a pot at work yesterday in Derby, England. On 24 August 2016 at 14:18, David Pilling wrote: > > > No sign of the Amaryllis Belladonna. Peter (UK) From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <5e7db518-7076-846d-5a08-ad922de9376b@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:06:34 -0700 In a note in the recent BX offering from Roy Herold, we read: "The following tecophilaea hybrids are the result of hand pollinated, > controlled greenhouse crosses. Curiously, most of the seedlings from the > straight cyanocrocus parent look like leichtlinii. Perhaps the latter is > dominant? > > 15. Tecophilaea hybrid (cyanocrocus var. leichtlinii x cyanocrocus), few > 16. Tecophilaea hybrid (cyanocrocus x cyanocrocus var. leichtlinii), few" > When Tecophilaea cyanocrocus was rediscovered in the wild in the mid-elevation Chilean Andes several years ago, the report (published in /Gayana/, the Chilean botanical journal) mentioned that the flowers were all, or mostly, of the "leichtlinii" pattern with a white center. I suspect that this is the typical form of the species, and that the striking all-blue form that growers consider typical is the result of selection, either of collected plants or within cultivation. It's probably not valid to designate the white-centered color form a botanical variety. I'm glad to know that descendants of my little population of T. cyanocrocus are in circulation; I lost mine when I moved a few years ago and changed their growing situation (obviously not to their liking), but at least Roy and also Mark Akimoff have their progeny doing well. Mine all arose from 3 corms purchased from an English vendor in the early 1990s. Incidentally, the change that seems to have doomed them was a move from a plunged clay pot to a covered, sandy and gritty raised bed. This is a snowmelt species, and perhaps it needs a cooler summer dormancy than it got in the same conditions as, e.g., Juno irises (which, however, also grow and flower rapidly after snowmelt!). Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA From petersirises@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Peter Taggart Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 19:14:52 +0100 I think that they were shown on the old bulb society website.... Peter (UK) On 24 August 2016 at 17:05, Dennis Kramb wrote: > Google tells me Rhodophiala has not been hybridized with Hippeastrum, but > it has been crossed with Habranthus. Does anyone know of photos of this > cross? > From xerantheum@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:18:59 -1000 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Jane McGary wrote: > It's probably not valid to designate the white-centered color form a > botanical variety. > I wonder what the technical status of T. cyanocrocus var. cyanocrocus is? It must be the completely blue form since var. leichtlinii has the white center. Varietal status is used for morphological differentiation. If we want to talk about ecology and evolution (populations) through careful studies, we'd use subspecies. > Mine all arose from 3 corms purchased from an English vendor in the early > 1990s. > This is such a desirable species but are so slow to multiply. I would love for everyone who grow this species to make a concerted effort to produce seeds and make more plants. They're unhappy for me in Berkeley -- too wet in winter. Nhu From cortocora@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: "L. Cortopassi - G. Corazza" Subject: Spathantheum Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:47:30 +0200 Mine is emerging now. I probably planted it later than you because I'm in Italy and the packet took about 20 days to arrive. Gianluca Corazza, Italy, Z9a 2016-08-24 19:53 GMT+02:00 James Waddick : > Dear Silent, > > I assume each had only a single leaf. Did they emerge late? > Are they growing out doors and are they hardy? where are you? > > Any set seed, too.? > > How many years does itt take to get to blooming size? > Thanks for the info. Jim w. > > > > On Aug 24, 2016, at 10:18 AM, The Silent Seed > wrote: > > Am I missing something? I had about 50 of them and they grew just like any > other tuberous aroid. The big ones also flowered just as with > Amorphophallus or Typhonium. > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Leo Martin wrote: > > > Wrote James Waddick: > > > >> Spathantheum from the BX.... > >> It took months to emerge, but > >> has produced a single leaf on > >> a long pedicle. That's it. > >> I wonder if any one else has had > >> this glorious success with this > >> odd aroid. > > > > You must be a great grower. Mine is still an upright spear of green. > > > > Leo Martin > > Zone ? > > Phoenix Arizona USA > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > > -- > The Silent Seed > Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. > thesilentseed.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From tylus.seklos@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: The Silent Seed Subject: Spathantheum Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:10:38 -0400 They grew on and off all year - since they were in a warm plant house year-round - most had one leaf - others several. I would say their growth habit was just about the same as an Amorphophallus - usually single leaf, but occasionally more. On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:47 PM, L. Cortopassi - G. Corazza < cortocora@gmail.com> wrote: > Mine is emerging now. I probably planted it later than you because I'm in > Italy and the packet took about 20 days to arrive. > Gianluca Corazza, Italy, Z9a > > > 2016-08-24 19:53 GMT+02:00 James Waddick : > > > Dear Silent, > > > > I assume each had only a single leaf. Did they emerge late? > > Are they growing out doors and are they hardy? where are you? > > > > Any set seed, too.? > > > > How many years does itt take to get to blooming size? > > Thanks for the info. Jim w. > > > > > > > > On Aug 24, 2016, at 10:18 AM, The Silent Seed > > wrote: > > > > Am I missing something? I had about 50 of them and they grew just like > any > > other tuberous aroid. The big ones also flowered just as with > > Amorphophallus or Typhonium. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Leo Martin > wrote: > > > > > Wrote James Waddick: > > > > > >> Spathantheum from the BX.... > > >> It took months to emerge, but > > >> has produced a single leaf on > > >> a long pedicle. That's it. > > >> I wonder if any one else has had > > >> this glorious success with this > > >> odd aroid. > > > > > > You must be a great grower. Mine is still an upright spear of green. > > > > > > Leo Martin > > > Zone ? > > > Phoenix Arizona USA > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The Silent Seed > > Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. > > thesilentseed.com > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > Dr. James Waddick > > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > > USA > > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com From ahorstmann@telkomsa.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <264E14A35C2F4701BBDF4AFA312D761E@UserPC> From: "Alan Horstmann" Subject: (no subject) Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 21:32:32 +0200 Hi Jane, Alan Horstmann here. My e-mail address is ahorstmann@telkomsa.net. Regards from Africa. In full bloom at present. Alan From johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1779f893-8a59-4937-4ad5-4d60f4e00957@t-online.de> From: Johannes Ulrich Urban Subject: Spathanteum Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 21:38:58 +0200 Dear All Spathantheum orbynyanum will flower before the leaves emerge, what looks like a thin leaf on a long stalk is in fact the flower, just look on the underside of the "leaf" and you will notice, or maybe take a sniff of the scent.... smile. Spathantheum means: flowering spathe. This same misunderstanding has happened several times when I gave tubers to friends. The flowers do not at all look like Amorphophallus or Typhonium. Some time after flowering the leaves will appear, the leaves roughly look like Acanthus mollis leaves. I donated these tubers in late spring and they were a bit overstored. That may explain why they only flower now which is late indeed. The plant produces masses of offsets and it was the first time this year I sent them to the BX. They like full sun and a lot of water and fertilizer when in full growth. I hope your plants make a full growing cycle before winter sets in. They are strictly summer growing with me. Unfortunately I do not have pictures of the flowers. My plant is in full leaf now. In the past the growing tubers have made the pot burst several times. It is an odd but unusual and very easy plant from Bolivia. Have fun with it! Uli From rherold@yahoo.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <57BE02FB.2080702@yahoo.com> From: Roy Herold Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:26:35 -0400 When I made the crosses, I was hoping to see some offspring with intermediate characteristics, like a smaller white zone. Instead, as mentioned, the 'leichtlinii' coloration seems to be dominant. Some of the corms I sent to the BX might be unbloomed, so watch for something out of the ordinary. Regarding culture, I've been following Rodger Whitlock's recommendation of granite grit (not pumice) with a little organic matter. I've been using screened peat/coir potting soil for the organics. They are in 4" plastic pots, and don't get watered until the beginning of December, or when the shoots are visible. The biggest problem I've had with them recently is going dormant too early due to high temperatures in the greenhouse starting in March. This year I sent them out to the unheated coldframe in March, and they happily kept growing through June. Hence the extra corms for the BX. --Roy NW of Boston From rrherold@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Roy Herold Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:31:28 -0400 When I made the crosses, I was hoping to see some offspring with intermediate characteristics, like a smaller white zone. Instead, as mentioned, the 'leichtlinii' coloration seems to be dominant. Some of the corms I sent to the BX might be unbloomed, so watch for something out of the ordinary. Regarding culture, I've been following Rodger Whitlock's recommendation of granite grit (not pumice) with a little organic matter. I've been using screened peat/coir potting soil for the organics. They are in 4" plastic pots, and don't get watered until the beginning of December, or when the shoots are visible. The biggest problem I've had with them recently is going dormant too early due to high temperatures in the greenhouse starting in March. This year I sent them out to the unheated coldframe in March, and they happily kept growing through June. Once they go dormant, they dry out in the garage for the rest of the summer. Hence the extra corms for the BX. --Roy NW of Boston > From arnold140@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <21DDD28D-E710-40CF-ADB7-D3A6F5736047@verizon.net> From: Arnold140 Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:57:42 -0400 Hi Roy What's your source for granite grit in these parts. Arnold Northern NJ Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Roy Herold wrote: > > When I made the crosses, I was hoping to see some offspring with intermediate characteristics, like a smaller white zone. Instead, as mentioned, the 'leichtlinii' coloration seems to be dominant. Some of the corms I sent to the BX might be unbloomed, so watch for something out of the ordinary. > > Regarding culture, I've been following Rodger Whitlock's recommendation of granite grit (not pumice) with a little organic matter. I've been using screened peat/coir potting soil for the organics. They are in 4" plastic pots, and don't get watered until the beginning of December, or when the shoots are visible. The biggest problem I've had with them recently is going dormant too early due to high temperatures in the greenhouse starting in March. This year I sent them out to the unheated coldframe in March, and they happily kept growing through June. Hence the extra corms for the BX. > > --Roy > NW of Boston > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From rrherold@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Roy Herold Subject: BX407 Oxalis sp Silvermine Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 17:00:15 -0400 I hope the recipients of this oxalis can figure out what it is. It is extremely slow for me, especially as compared to the versicolor that is in common distribution. As I mentioned, it was growing in running water alongside the trail above Kalk Bay, and was in heavy shade. This was in September in South Africa, so think March in the northern hemisphere. The bulbs were quite deep, and I was only able to collect a couple of rice grain size offsets. Here is a picture from the wild: https://1drv.ms/i/s!AhODXTAnN4nHg_V8Kyl26koUsGM3fQ --Roy NW of Boston From wpoulsen@pacbell.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <21F91C43-B454-4850-9C7A-99205C1F8FCF@pacbell.net> From: Lee Poulsen Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 14:23:00 -0700 > On Aug 24, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Jane McGary wrote: > >> > When Tecophilaea cyanocrocus was rediscovered in the wild in the mid-elevation Chilean Andes several years ago, the report (published in /Gayana/, the Chilean botanical journal) mentioned that the flowers were all, or mostly, of the "leichtlinii" pattern with a white center. I suspect that this is the typical form of the species, and that the striking all-blue form that growers consider typical is the result of selection, either of collected plants or within cultivation. It's probably not valid to designate the white-centered color form a botanical variety. I have thought this for many years just based on the relative vigorousness of the three varieties. Not only do the “leichtlinii” type grow more vigorously during their active season, they also multiply by offsets much more rapidly than the other two varieties. And they consistently produce more flowers than the other two as well. In fact, because the pure blue variety is *so* striking, I keep trying to get it to propagate itself more, so that I can get the same effect I get from a pot packed with the “leichtlinii” flowers but with the intense blue flowers of the “cyanocrocus” variety. So I’m not surprised that the “leichtlinii” color and pattern is dominant. Maybe it’s a climate thing, but Tecophilaea cyanocrocus is an almost carefree species for me in my climate. I know that inland Southern California valleys do not have the same climate as their native locales, but other than additional watering during dry winters, I don’t have to do anything else to get them to grow well and reproduce fairly quickly until they fill a 6-inch (15 cm) pot. They are outdoors all year round, although I keep them in shade during their summer dormancy. The soil is my standard mixture of probably 1/2 organic, 1/2 inorganic (pumice, scoria). And that’s about it. --Lee Poulsen Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From wpoulsen@pacbell.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <4B02481D-60F1-4637-8756-512102E42EB3@pacbell.net> From: Lee Poulsen Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 14:38:00 -0700 > On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: > > Google tells me Rhodophiala has not been hybridized with Hippeastrum, but > it has been crossed with Habranthus. Does anyone know of photos of this > cross? > > Dennis in Cincinnati > _______________________________________________ Dave Lehmiller produced all kinds of intergeneric crosses between Habranthus, Zephyranthes, Sprekelia, Hippeastrum, and Rhodophiala, including several very striking tri-generic crosses. He has retired from growing Crinum and these other species and sold or turned over almost all of his stock to people like Herb Kelly. I saw some of this stock sold at very high prices (in the hundreds of dollars per bulb) right before the IBS went out of business. --Lee Poulsen Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: Spathantheum Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:09:19 -0700 First emerged a pointed green shoot. That revealed itself to be a bract, now about 8cm tall. Another pointed green shoot emerged from this bract, now to a height of about 25cm. This second pointed green thing is almost cylindric, with a distinct channel or gap down one side, too tight for me to see what is inside. I might add I don't know how large the mature tubers are. I received two tubers, both of which are growing. The second one has just begun cracking the surface. The larger tuber was about half the size of a dried prune, and the smaller one about the size of a raisin. Leo Martin Zone 9? Phoenix Arizona USA From cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Cynthia Mueller Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 23:30:23 +0000 I have seen remarks in the literature that the Habranthus that Rhodophiala will cross with is H. pedunculosis (aka juncifolia), but I've never seen a picture of the cross. Cynthia W Mueller > On Aug 24, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: > > Google tells me Rhodophiala has not been hybridized with Hippeastrum, but > it has been crossed with Habranthus. Does anyone know of photos of this > cross? > > Dennis in Cincinnati > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: Sonoran desert weather Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 23:31:47 -0700 Our spring and fall have very low relative humidity, and it almost never rains. Days are warm to hot, and nights cool down. Summers are tripartite: Hot and arid; monsoon, with thunderstorms; hot and arid. Winters are cool, with occasional Pacific winter storms arriving from the northwest, featuring long spells of gentle, cool rain. The start of spring is usually recognized in retrospect. The potential for cool winter rain stopped, and nights still cool down. Spring may last until early March, or until mid June. Winter-growing plants continue growing in the spring only if watered regularly, because rain has stopped. They begin going dormant slowly if watering stops, but rapidly after only a few days of hot weather. Often a hot spell will be followed by a long period of cool weather, but the dormancy message has been received. The first part of summer has increasingly hot days, and relative humidity is extremely low. This is when the temperature records are set, in the last week before the monsoon arrives. We hit 118 F / 47.8C a couple of times this June. First-summer relative humidity is under 15% almost all the time, day and night, and usually around 5%. Day and night temperatures steadily increase, but nights are cooler than days, though still hot. This has changed from the past due to the heat island effect in metro Phoenix. 30 years ago, early summer nights cooled down quite a bit. The second part of summer is the monsoon. Warm, moist air from the Sea of Cortez advances farther north each day, and recedes at night. The possibility of thunderstorms arises. Daytime temperatures on monsoon days are not near the records set at the end of first summer. Nights are uncomfortably warm, especially when there is cloud cover. This is the time when night high temperature records may be set, and plants with crassulacean acid metabolism struggle mightily. Echeverias are winter annuals here, as are many Aizoaceae and other Crassulaceae. The jade plant cannot be grown here successfully because of hot summer nights. The monsoon reaches Phoenix around the second week of July, and Tucson 2-3 weeks before this. More than half of our annual precipitation falls during the monsoon. Because Tucson has a longer monsoon, and is closer to the Sea of Cortez, it gets more monsoon rain than does Phoenix. Tucson is 1,000 feet / 267 meters higher in elevation than Phoenix, so it is very slightly cooler, as well. It is much smaller than Phoenix, so it is not so severe a heat island. The monsoon has been defined as beginning when the average dew point is above 55 degrees F / 12.8C for three consecutive days. Dew point is the temperature at which water will condense from the air spontaneously; the dew point rises as air becomes more humid. Evaporative coolers don't function well at, nor above, this dew point, so it is a practical measure. During our first summer, evaporative cooling works at least as well as air conditioning, and many people find the cool, humid air more pleasing than cold, dry air. This definition was too difficult for low-intelligence people to understand, or most television and newspaper weather reporters to explain, so it has been discarded. Now the monsoon is defined as beginning June 15. As defined under the old system, the monsoon never once during the history of weather recordkeeping began as early as June 15 in Phoenix. In the monsoon there are substantial periods of higher relative humidity, when it may be 20%-40% for several days, to over a week. Daytime temperatures are in the range 100 -110 F / 38-43C. Clouds form near mountains almost every afternoon, and thunderstorms may form at any time. This is interspersed with spells of hot, dry and low-humidity weather, when relative humidity falls to 10% or below and there is no chance of rain. Temperatures during these monsoon interruptions are not as hot as the last week of June, but regularly over 110 F / 43.3C. Late afternoon and evening thunderstorms are common during our monsoon. These tend to be very localized, and are often not more than a mile in diameter. The sun heats the ground, and the air above rises; by late afternoon the ground is very hot, and the air rises very fast and very high, high enough for the water vapor to condense. Intense winds arise, blowing towards the center of the storm, as ground-level air rushes to replace that carried aloft by updrafts. Regional air currents can blow such storms along their path, dropping an inch of rain in 10-20 minutes, then passing to the next part of the city. Sometimes it rains on only one side of a street. This kind of thunderstorm only rarely occurs in metro Phoenix any more, compared to 30 years ago, due to the vastly increased concrete and pavement coverage as the city expands. There is no humid air over pavement. Almost every monsoon afternoon, a wall of thunderstorms can be seen ringing Phoenix, but a good 20-30 miles away from the city center. 30 years ago I could expect 5-7 late afternoon monsoon storms at my house, but more recently, I get 1-3. If the air is not humid enough to sustain thunderstorms, a dust storm may ensue, as air rushes to replace updrafts. See http://meteorologynews.com/offbeat/dust-storm-shrouds-phoenix-in-zero-visibility/ . We have even more Valley fever cases (coccidioidomycosis) than does California's Central Valley, after which it was named. This is a fungal infection whose spores are spread during dust storms. Another kind of monsoon thunderstorm forms on the prevailing wind side of mountains almost every afternoon. Air masses collide with the mountains, and rise; the air cools as it rises, and clouds form. This is seen best in the Santa Catalina Mountains, at the base of whose southern slope Tucson reposes. If you want to see thunderstorms and lightning, stay at the Ventana Canyon Resort in Tucson some week in mid July, and ask for a mountain view room. Summer rates are quite reasonable. These mountain-induced storms are not affected by the heat island effect, since the mountains haven't been built over. Yet. Region-wide monsoon storms happen mostly at night, related to large air masses moving over the land. There are 0-3 of these most years. My Gethyllis sp, if it is to bloom during a given year, seems to bloom shortly after a good thunderstorm in July.This year we didn't have one, so it didn't. Amaryllis belladonna here would bloom during the mid monsoon. Mine have bloomed twice since they were well-established. It had been so long since I'd seen them that once I didn't recognize them, and I had to look at my records to see what I'd planted. Lycoris radiata may bloom later during the monsoon, right about now, about once every 3-4 years. It hasn't this year. Lycoris aurea grows here, though I don't have it. Other Lycoris don't survive here. Neither surviving species blooms every year. The monsoon ends when the moist air recedes to the south, replaced by hot, dry air. This happens sometime from the end of August to the end of September. We have a third summer, similar to the first summer, but days and nights steadily get less hot. Fall begins when nights begin cooling to something comfortable. This may happen from late September to late October, Days are often still over 100 F / 38C through the beginning of November. There is no fall rain. A few winter bulbs sprout on their own when they feel like it. A lot of Albuca, Oxalis and the red squill, Urginea or Drimia maritima, sprout inflorescences in late August no matter the weather. There is no rain in our fall, so bulbs that depend on fall rains to sprout will not do so unless watered. It is tricky deciding when to water; it might suddenly turn hot again tomorrow, and will the wet bulbs rot? One day in November it is suddenly winter. Nights become chilly, and night frosts are possible. The earliest frost at my house in the last 30 years was November 20, and there have been years with no frost here. One winter there was no frost until the first week of February. Days always rise well above freezing when the sun is up. Only once has my pond frozen solid, in the polar express of late December 1990. We did not have another extremely cold spell until January 2007, which, while cold, was nowhere near as cold as 1990. Pacific winter storms may arrive after dumping most of their rain on California. It rains here a day after it rains at Disneyland in southern California. Winter growing plants do extremely well here; when it is not raining, relative humidity is very low, so there is no fungus trouble at all. If there has been no rain, though, the gardener needs to water. Days are cloudless and sunny unless a storm is present. Tucson is farther south and east from Phoenix and the Pacific, so Tucson gets much less winter rain than we do. Because of the heavier monsoon in Tucson, it averages 14 inches / 355mm of rain per year, while Phoenix averages 8" / 200mm. My paperwhite narcissus begin blooming between the last week of December and the second week of January. I have various winter bulbs in bloom all winter outside. The last recorded frost for Phoenix was on March 15, but there hasn't been frost after mid February for many years. Spring begins between the end of January and mid March. The chance for winter storms is gone, and there will be no rain until the monsoon arrives. If hot weather comes early, spring bulb flowering is pitiful. Spring has been over the first week of March, and the second week of June. Winter growers much prefer like longer springs! Leo Martin Zone 9? Phoenix Arizona USA From dkramb@badbear.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:09:20 -0400 So is it worth a shot to apply Sprekelia pollen onto Rhodophiala? Hmmmm.... intriguing. I was hoping to replicate some crosses that have already been done. I'm really disappointed Google isn't finding me any photos. Dennis in Cincinnati On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Lee Poulsen wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: > > > > Google tells me Rhodophiala has not been hybridized with Hippeastrum, but > > it has been crossed with Habranthus. Does anyone know of photos of this > > cross? > > > > Dennis in Cincinnati > > _______________________________________________ > > > Dave Lehmiller produced all kinds of intergeneric crosses between > Habranthus, Zephyranthes, Sprekelia, Hippeastrum, and Rhodophiala, > including several very striking tri-generic crosses. He has retired from > growing Crinum and these other species and sold or turned over almost all > of his stock to people like Herb Kelly. I saw some of this stock sold at > very high prices (in the hundreds of dollars per bulb) right before the IBS > went out of business. > > --Lee Poulsen > Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a > Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Cynthia Mueller Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:16:32 +0000 Dennis, I think today I'll put pink Rhodophiala pollen on an out-of-season Hippeastrelia flower in my garden (and vice versa). You never know...but the interesting cross that Dave Lehmiller made was between Sprekelia, Hippeastrelia and Zephyranthes traubii, I think. The Z. Traubii went a long way evidently in creating a small plant like a rain lily. Cynthia W Mueller > On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: > > So is it worth a shot to apply Sprekelia pollen onto Rhodophiala? > Hmmmm.... intriguing. I was hoping to replicate some crosses that have > already been done. I'm really disappointed Google isn't finding me any > photos. > > Dennis in Cincinnati > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Lee Poulsen wrote: > >>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: >>> >>> Google tells me Rhodophiala has not been hybridized with Hippeastrum, but >>> it has been crossed with Habranthus. Does anyone know of photos of this >>> cross? >>> >>> Dennis in Cincinnati >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Dave Lehmiller produced all kinds of intergeneric crosses between >> Habranthus, Zephyranthes, Sprekelia, Hippeastrum, and Rhodophiala, >> including several very striking tri-generic crosses. He has retired from >> growing Crinum and these other species and sold or turned over almost all >> of his stock to people like Herb Kelly. I saw some of this stock sold at >> very high prices (in the hundreds of dollars per bulb) right before the IBS >> went out of business. >> >> --Lee Poulsen >> Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a >> Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From petersirises@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Peter Taggart Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:56:32 +0100 Check with Andre on FaceBook Dennis, -he has looked into this. Peter (UK) On 25 August 2016 at 15:09, Dennis Kramb wrote: > So is it worth a shot to apply Sprekelia pollen onto Rhodophiala? > From nickplummer@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nicholas plummer Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:59:02 -0400 I think this is the tri-generic Dave Lehmiller hybrid that Cynthia Mueller mentioned. http://blog.plantdelights.com/xhowardara-little-princess-flowering-today/ I saw it blooming at PDN last year. It was very brightly colored and extremely cute. Nick On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Cynthia Mueller wrote: > Dennis, I think today I'll put pink Rhodophiala pollen on an out-of-season > Hippeastrelia flower in my garden (and vice versa). You never know...but > the interesting cross that Dave Lehmiller made was between Sprekelia, > Hippeastrelia and Zephyranthes traubii, I think. The Z. Traubii went a long > way evidently in creating a small plant like a rain lily. > > Cynthia W Mueller > > > >> > >> > >> Dave Lehmiller produced all kinds of intergeneric crosses between > >> Habranthus, Zephyranthes, Sprekelia, Hippeastrum, and Rhodophiala, > >> including several very striking tri-generic crosses. He has retired from > >> growing Crinum and these other species and sold or turned over almost > all > >> of his stock to people like Herb Kelly. I saw some of this stock sold at > >> very high prices (in the hundreds of dollars per bulb) right before the > IBS > >> went out of business. > >> > >> --Lee Poulsen > >> Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a > >> Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Cynthia Mueller Subject: Rhodophiala hybrds Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:15:17 +0000 I put pink Rhodophiala pollen on a Hippeastrelia flower today, but that flower was pretty much over. About Dave Lehmiller's cross, it is described in two articles in Herbertia, vol. 66, pps. 325 and 335. The plants progenitors were Sprekelia howardii, S. Formosissima, Z. Traubii and Hippeastrelia, but he made numbers of combinations, and had other interesting variants besides the one in Tony Avent's blog, which is a charmer! Come to think, I do have two types of Habranthus blooming today, so they'll get pink Rhodophiala pollen, too. Cynthia W Mueller > On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Cynthia Mueller wrote: > > Dennis, I think today I'll put pink Rhodophiala pollen on an out-of-season Hippeastrelia flower in my garden (and vice versa). You never know...but the interesting cross that Dave Lehmiller made was between Sprekelia, Hippeastrelia and Zephyranthes traubii, I think. The Z. Traubii went a long way evidently in creating a small plant like a rain lily. > > Cynthia W Mueller > >> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: >> >> So is it worth a shot to apply Sprekelia pollen onto Rhodophiala? >> Hmmmm.... intriguing. I was hoping to replicate some crosses that have >> already been done. I'm really disappointed Google isn't finding me any >> photos. >> >> Dennis in Cincinnati >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Lee Poulsen wrote: >> >>>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: >>>> >>>> Google tells me Rhodophiala has not been hybridized with Hippeastrum, but >>>> it has been crossed with Habranthus. Does anyone know of photos of this >>>> cross? >>>> >>>> Dennis in Cincinnati >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Dave Lehmiller produced all kinds of intergeneric crosses between >>> Habranthus, Zephyranthes, Sprekelia, Hippeastrum, and Rhodophiala, >>> including several very striking tri-generic crosses. He has retired from >>> growing Crinum and these other species and sold or turned over almost all >>> of his stock to people like Herb Kelly. I saw some of this stock sold at >>> very high prices (in the hundreds of dollars per bulb) right before the IBS >>> went out of business. >>> >>> --Lee Poulsen >>> Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a >>> Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <72578.8821.bm@smtp216.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Dell Sherk Subject: Pacific BX 407 CLOSED Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:00:47 -0400 Packages should go out in a week. Enjoy, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <9ad184f7-260e-13f6-4dfc-7140e834afff@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Crinum zeylanicum Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:43:49 -0700 I have received another plea from a correspondent who reached me via the website, seeking a source of Crinum zeylanicum. Does anyone on this list grow it, and can you give me a sense of how difficult it is to obtain, so I can explain better to him? Thanks, Jane McGary Membership Coordinator, PBS From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: Crinum zeylanicum Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:30:31 -0500 Dear Jane, There are a number of pictures of this species on the wiki from Alani Davis - did you ask him? USDA lists it as escaped in S. FL. - So should be around . Jenks Farmer sells a lot of Crinum - ask him. and Plant Delights has featured it at one time - ask Tony. I don’t know who asked, but Google is your friend. Best Jim W. On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Jane McGary wrote: Crinum zeylanicum Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From alanidae@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Alani Davis Subject: Crinum zeylanicum Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:49:00 -0400 Hello, I apologize if I don't always keep with this forum closely enough, but I just caught this thread this time and I guess I missed any earlier ones. I could explain how hard its to find real Crinum zeylanicum but I am growing it, so I might be able to help him. Is there a way I can get in contact with him? Alani Davis On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Jane McGary wrote: > I have received another plea from a correspondent who reached me via the > website, seeking a source of Crinum zeylanicum. Does anyone on this list > grow it, and can you give me a sense of how difficult it is to obtain, so I > can explain better to him? > > Thanks, > > Jane McGary > > Membership Coordinator, PBS > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From cumbleton@yahoo.co.uk Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <000e01d1ff7d$b377c1e0$1a6745a0$@yahoo.co.uk> From: "Paul Cumbleton" Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 10:39:10 +0100 In trying to get more of the pure blue form I once crossed two blue plants, carefully isolated from other colour forms. I was surprised when one or two of the resulting seedlings turned out purple (i.e. var. violacea). Perhaps this isn't so surprising on reflection - this species has been in cultivation a long time and with no re-introductions from the wild. Seed sent to exchanges is often open pollinated and from collections where all three colour forms are present. I would guess that as a result all the colours are "in there" somewhere genetically speaking and will pop out from time to time. Paul Cumbleton From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <748571910.1562797.1472490983226@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Drimia maritima Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Earlier this year we had a brief thread going on Drimia maritima. I think it was at about the time that they were dying down for the year. Since then, my plant has been outside but sheltered from the rain. I think we broke the local record for days over 90 degrees F this summer.Now that's it's almost September, I've been checking my plant for signs of renewed growth. So far, there's no sign of that. Does anyone else have a plant which is showing signs of  activity? Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where the × Amarcrinum are putting on a nice show.  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From guylep@hotmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: guy stephane andre l'eplattenier Subject: Drimia maritima Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 18:16:33 +0000 Hi Jim, Here in Spain, despite we had no summer rain, lots of Drimia maritima are blooming in my garden. We had a normally hot summer, and they use to do so end of August. First bulbous plants ,with Lapiedra martinezii, to appear. Guy L'Eplattenier, Catalunya, Spain, Zone 9 ________________________________ De : pbs de la part de Jim McKenney Envoyé : lundi 29 août 2016 17:16:23 À : Pacific Bulb Society Objet : [pbs] Drimia maritima Earlier this year we had a brief thread going on Drimia maritima. I think it was at about the time that they were dying down for the year. Since then, my plant has been outside but sheltered from the rain. I think we broke the local record for days over 90 degrees F this summer.Now that's it's almost September, I've been checking my plant for signs of renewed growth. So far, there's no sign of that. Does anyone else have a plant which is showing signs of activity? Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where the × Amarcrinum are putting on a nice show. From myixia1@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Pamela Slate Subject: Drimia maritima Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:08:40 -0700 Jim, I was just about to write to the list - I have ten D. maritima in bloom, about half the total number of bulbs but many, including some now in flower, are still juvenile. The first one I received is from Boyce Thompson Arboretum where the climate and elevation are similar to mine and where D. maritima could number into the hundreds among mature eucalyptus trees and others. That bulb has increased to three and its inflorescence is the tallest rising to some three feet. Bulb size is akin to that of a soccer ball. Mine received about 2.7 inches of rain last month. And I remain certain that the bulb photo submitted by Don Hoel taken in the Atlas Mountains near Marrakech (on the wiki Mystery Bulbs page) is this bulb. Would love to hear other opinions on this from list members who grow this plant. I'd not expect this plant to flower in Maryland. Congratulations! Pamela Slate North Scottdale Arizona where the xAmarcrinum are flowering but look ragged with brown foliage. From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <407322163.1652335.1472497952482@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Drimia maritima Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for that response, Pamela. But the congratulations are premature: my plant has not yet bloomed for me.  Jim McKenney  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: Drimia maritima non-flowering alert Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:32:30 -0700 My four aren't flowering, either,. This is not the earliest they haven't flowered. Leo Martin Zone 9? Phoenix Arizona USA From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <520953.42712.bm@smtp228.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Dell Sherk Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 408 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:47:51 -0400 Dear All,       The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at mailto:ds429@frontier.com   Include "BX 408" in the subject line.         SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 – $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay.     Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website:         If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Dell Sherk 55 W. High St. Salem, WV 26426 USA Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Dell's email address ds429@frontier.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.             I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! From Jane McGary: (BULBS) 1.       Iris tuberosa (syn. Hermodactylus tuberosum), small bulbs 2.       Acis valentina (syn. Leucojum valentinum.), fall-flowering 3.       Hyacinthoides lingulata (“subsp. ciliolata”), late fall flowering, blue, 6-8 cm tall, best frost-free 4.       Acis tingitana (syn. Leucojum tingitanum), North Africa, 30 cm, probably best frost-free 5.       Notholirion thomsonianum, fragrant pale lavender trumpet flowers on tall stems, tolerant of various conditions in the Pacific Coast garden given some drainage 6.       Colchicum boissieri, pink, fall-flowering miniature species, corms extend horizontally, plant flat with any visible roots on the underside. Quite hardy. NOTE: In conformity with CITES guidelines, the next two items, Sternbergia spp., cannot be sent outside the US. 7.       Sternbergia lutea, typical form, fall-flowering, requires excellent drainage and a warm, dry summer. In spring, protect from bulb fly! 8.       Sternbergia lutea, small form. About half the size of the typical plant, but free flowering and fast increasing. May be the form reported from Crete. Same requirements as typical form.   From Nhu Nguyen:    BULBS 9. Oxalis hirta 10. Oxalis hirta, mauve 11. Oxalis flava 12. Oxalis massoniana 13. Oxalis cathara 14. Oxalis bowiei 15. Oxalis polyphylla 16. Lachenalia multifolia 17. Allium amplectens 18. Lachenalia ensifolia (Polyxena pygmaea) 19. Strumaria tenella 20. Narcissus bulbocodium 21. Gladiolus alatus 22. Ferraria crispa 23. Lapeirousia plicata Thank you, Jane and Nhu !! Best wishes, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From michaelcmace@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <082601d2024a$890928c0$9b1b7a40$@gmail.com> From: "Michael Mace" Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 16:10:29 -0700 Paul wrote: > I was surprised when one or two of the resulting seedlings turned out purple (i.e. var. violacea). Thanks for sharing your experience, Paul. Very interesting! In addition to your very sensible explanation, in the photos that were shared from the rediscovery of the species in the wild, it looks like the original species is quite variable. I raises a question as to whether the varieties we have in growth today might actually be selections. Unfortunately, I can't find any good-quality versions of those photos online. All I found was a very low-res version, which you can see here: http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0717-664320020002000 04 Machine translation from the article text: The morphology of the species found corresponds to T. cyanocrocus Leyb.; however there are differences in the color of the tépalos. The tube is blue, the tépalos in mostly white with blue veins and intense apex, which coincides with the var. Leichtlinii existing in culture. This Infraspecific taxa not listed in the Catalogue of the Vascular Flora of Chile ( Marticorena and Quezada 1985) , since it was never published. In the smaller population 3 guys with completely white flowers found. Mike San Jose, CA From pbs@davidpilling.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <2ef79f99-da82-e99d-ceb8-017823bd0de9@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: BX 408 CLOSED Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:49:45 +0100 Hi, On 30/08/2016 17:38, Jim McKenney wrote: > When was it announced? I don't see that. I have to report that there have been problems with our host ibiblio over the last week. Whilst you won't have seen much effect, one problem is that the PBS website list archive has not updated for the duration. So if you rely on the archive to spot BX, you will have missed it. But the BX has appeared via the usual single email and digest emails. If you want to contact me about PBS online matters, note that my email addresses have changed @pilling.demon is now @davidpilling.com -- David Pilling North West England From rrherold@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Roy Herold Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:10:45 -0400 Arnold, Go to your nearest farm supply store and ask for chicken grit. I get mine as 'Gran-i-Grit' from Agway. They seem to have stores in NJ--call ahead to make sure they have it. It comes in several grades. Starter (#0), about 1mm, is good for small bulbs or as top dressing seed pots. Grower (#1) is a bit larger, about 2mm. Bigger yet are Developer and Turkey sizes. You may want to screen out the dust before using. Agway is also a good source for Dry Stall pumice. --Roy NW of Boston, where Haemanthus coccineus from BX 346 is starting to bloom On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Arnold140 wrote: > Hi Roy > > What's your source for granite grit in these parts. > > Arnold > Northern NJ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 24, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Roy Herold wrote: > > > > When I made the crosses, I was hoping to see some offspring with > intermediate characteristics, like a smaller white zone. Instead, as > mentioned, the 'leichtlinii' coloration seems to be dominant. Some of the > corms I sent to the BX might be unbloomed, so watch for something out of > the ordinary. > > > > Regarding culture, I've been following Rodger Whitlock's recommendation > of granite grit (not pumice) with a little organic matter. I've been using > screened peat/coir potting soil for the organics. They are in 4" plastic > pots, and don't get watered until the beginning of December, or when the > shoots are visible. The biggest problem I've had with them recently is > going dormant too early due to high temperatures in the greenhouse starting > in March. This year I sent them out to the unheated coldframe in March, and > they happily kept growing through June. Hence the extra corms for the BX. > > > > --Roy > > NW of Boston > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From arnold140@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <30310707.2477721.1472573859622.JavaMail.root@tvweb133060.mailsrvcs.net> From: arnold140@verizon.net Subject: Tecophilaea cyanocrocus "hybrids" Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:17:39 -0500 (CDT) Roy: Thanks, I was up in Scituate, MA over the weekend. No Agways but got some at a local feed store. A small 10 pound bag was all they had. May have to travel a bit farther from here to get some.. Arnold New Jersey On 08/30/16, Roy Herold wrote: Arnold, Go to your nearest farm supply store and ask for chicken grit. I get mine as 'Gran-i-Grit' from Agway. They seem to have stores in NJ--call ahead to make sure they have it. It comes in several grades. Starter (#0), about 1mm, is good for small bulbs or as top dressing seed pots. Grower (#1) is a bit larger, about 2mm. Bigger yet are Developer and Turkey sizes. You may want to screen out the dust before using. Agway is also a good source for Dry Stall pumice. --Roy NW of Boston, where Haemanthus coccineus from BX 346 is starting to bloom On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Arnold140 wrote: > Hi Roy > > What's your source for granite grit in these parts. > > Arnold > Northern NJ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 24, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Roy Herold wrote: > > > > When I made the crosses, I was hoping to see some offspring with > intermediate characteristics, like a smaller white zone. Instead, as > mentioned, the 'leichtlinii' coloration seems to be dominant. Some of the > corms I sent to the BX might be unbloomed, so watch for something out of > the ordinary. > > > > Regarding culture, I've been following Rodger Whitlock's recommendation > of granite grit (not pumice) with a little organic matter. I've been using > screened peat/coir potting soil for the organics. They are in 4" plastic > pots, and don't get watered until the beginning of December, or when the > shoots are visible. The biggest problem I've had with them recently is > going dormant too early due to high temperatures in the greenhouse starting > in March. This year I sent them out to the unheated coldframe in March, and > they happily kept growing through June. Hence the extra corms for the BX. > > > > --Roy > > NW of Boston > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <900331.94546.bm@smtp109.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Dell Sherk Subject: BX 408 CLOSED Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 12:33:59 -0400 Packages should go out in a week. Enjoy, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1773057427.2228903.1472575104174@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: BX 408 CLOSED Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:38:24 +0000 (UTC) When was it announced? I don't see that.  Jim McKenney _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <1375646518.2186580.1472575320777@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: BX 408 CLOSED Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Yesterday afternoon. -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, Jim McKenney wrote: Subject: Re: [pbs] BX 408 CLOSED To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 12:38 PM When was it announced? I don't see that.  Jim McKenney _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From abunting@chicagobotanic.org Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <49113D7D94C5CE41B5EA3E92E01EA6ED801C4E45@EXCH-MAIL01.chicagobotanic.org> From: Andrew Bunting Subject: BX 408 CLOSED Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:10:05 +0000 Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Dell Sherk Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:34 AM To: pbs Subject: [pbs] BX 408 CLOSED Packages should go out in a week. Enjoy, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From pelarg@aol.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <156dcada2f7-4366-13236@webprd-a92.mail.aol.com> From: pelarg@aol.com Subject: was granite grit now dry stall pumice at agway Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:19:42 -0400 Last time I checked, which was about a year ago, Agway wasnt carrying the Dry Stall pumice anymore. I complained, but have not checked recently to see if the situation has changed. It was the only way to get pumice on the east coast at a reasonable price that I knew of. If someone has more recent information I'd like to know if Dry Stall is still available at agway or elsewhere here in the northeast. Ernie In NY where assorted gladiolus continue to bloom, along with Crocosmia aurea and some potted criums among others. Agway is also a good source for Dry Stall pumice. --Roy NW of Boston, where Haemanthus coccineus from BX 346 is starting to bloom On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Arnold140 wrote: > Hi Roy > > What's your source for granite grit in these parts. > > Arnold > Northern NJ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 24, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Roy Herold wrote: > > > > When I made the crosses, I was hoping to see some offspring with > intermediate characteristics, like a smaller white zone. Instead, as > mentioned, the 'leichtlinii' coloration seems to be dominant. Some of the > corms I sent to the BX might be unbloomed, so watch for something out of > the ordinary. > > > > Regarding culture, I've been following Rodger Whitlock's recommendation > of granite grit (not pumice) with a little organic matter. I've been using > screened peat/coir potting soil for the organics. They are in 4" plastic > pots, and don't get watered until the beginning of December, or when the > shoots are visible. The biggest problem I've had with them recently is > going dormant too early due to high temperatures in the greenhouse starting > in March. This year I sent them out to the unheated coldframe in March, and > they happily kept growing through June. Hence the extra corms for the BX. > > > > --Roy > > NW of Boston > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From rrherold@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Roy Herold Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:13:56 -0400 All, I have a full, bound set of Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' from 1993 to 1997, Numbers 1 thru 20, plus indexes.They make for some very interesting reading, primarily from a historical standpoint, but with lots of good, sound information that you don't find on the internet. It would be great if the PBS could get permission to scan these documents and post them to the wiki. Someone may have already done this on the other side of the pond. At any rate, I'm happy to ship them to anyone who is interested, with preference given to further archiving and sharing. --Roy From 64kkmjr@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:53:33 -0700 Roy, What a generous offer and hopefully the archiving them on the wiki can be arranged. Karl Church Dinuba, CA On Aug 30, 2016 1:46 PM, "Roy Herold" wrote: > All, > > I have a full, bound set of Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' from 1993 > to 1997, Numbers 1 thru 20, plus indexes.They make for some very > interesting reading, primarily from a historical standpoint, but with lots > of good, sound information that you don't find on the internet. > > It would be great if the PBS could get permission to scan these documents > and post them to the wiki. Someone may have already done this on the other > side of the pond. > > At any rate, I'm happy to ship them to anyone who is interested, with > preference given to further archiving and sharing. > > --Roy > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From pbs@davidpilling.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <76040f17-227e-a51b-4221-9465a4120967@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 22:09:35 +0100 Hi, On 30/08/2016 20:13, Roy Herold wrote: > I have a full, bound set of Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' from 1993 > to 1997, Numbers 1 thru 20, plus indexes.They make for some very I recently found a web site that had all the electronic construction magazines I bought years ago available for free download. Great. The problem is copyright, before we think about starting, has Brian Mathew given permission to put this material on the web? If that test is passed, I would be happy to put the files in the PBS web space. Someone would have to convert printed material to electronic media. Scanning, digital photography, perhaps Brian Mathew has the original word processor files. -- David Pilling North West England From arnold140@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <21107570.2488506.1472596084288.JavaMail.root@tvweb133060.mailsrvcs.net> From: arnold140@verizon.net Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:28:04 -0500 (CDT) I recall a conversation about digitizing Brian's Bulb Newsletter a while back. It may have even been during the days of the now deceased IBS. Perhaps someone should contact Brian and see how he feels about the project. There were 36 of them. Last one dated 2001 Arnold On 08/30/16, David Pilling wrote: Hi, On 30/08/2016 20:13, Roy Herold wrote: > I have a full, bound set of Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' from 1993 > to 1997, Numbers 1 thru 20, plus indexes.They make for some very I recently found a web site that had all the electronic construction magazines I bought years ago available for free download. Great. The problem is copyright, before we think about starting, has Brian Mathew given permission to put this material on the web? If that test is passed, I would be happy to put the files in the PBS web space. Someone would have to convert printed material to electronic media. Scanning, digital photography, perhaps Brian Mathew has the original word processor files. -- David Pilling North West England From abunting@chicagobotanic.org Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <49113D7D94C5CE41B5EA3E92E01EA6ED801C5EE6@EXCH-MAIL01.chicagobotanic.org> From: Andrew Bunting Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 23:16:06 +0000 Roy, If you don't have a "taker" yet the Chicago Botanic Garden would be interested in this collection for our library. Andrew Bunting -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Roy Herold Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 2:14 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: [pbs] Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection All, I have a full, bound set of Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' from 1993 to 1997, Numbers 1 thru 20, plus indexes.They make for some very interesting reading, primarily from a historical standpoint, but with lots of good, sound information that you don't find on the internet. It would be great if the PBS could get permission to scan these documents and post them to the wiki. Someone may have already done this on the other side of the pond. At any rate, I'm happy to ship them to anyone who is interested, with preference given to further archiving and sharing. --Roy From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <2D9E642B-00C1-4013-BABC-FD21F90545CC@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:18:43 -0500 I’ll write Brian and ask. Jim W. Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:19:55 -0700 Roy is right, this is a wonderful read. I have a long run of it but not quite a full set, unbound. I think I have Brian Mathew's email address and can write to him if we decide to seek permission. Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA On 8/30/2016 12:13 PM, Roy Herold wrote: > All, > > I have a full, bound set of Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' from 1993 > to 1997, Numbers 1 thru 20, plus indexes.They make for some very > interesting reading, primarily from a historical standpoint, but with lots > of good, sound information that you don't find on the internet. > > It would be great if the PBS could get permission to scan these documents > and post them to the wiki. Someone may have already done this on the other > side of the pond. > > At any rate, I'm happy to ship them to anyone who is interested, with > preference given to further archiving and sharing. > > --Roy > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:Nerine in New Zealand Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:24:29 -0700 The following inquiry came via the PBS website. Are any of you (Ina?) in New Zealand and growing Nerine, and could you perhaps help Robyn? Please write to her at the "Reply-to" address below if you can. Thanks! -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: PBS website contact:Nerine Date: 30 Aug 2016 17:46:13 -0400, Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:46:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Apache Reply-To: Robyn To: janemcgary@earthlink.net This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. Hi Jane, I apologise if you are not the person to ask. I am trying to find a light pink nerine bulb or potted, which I can buy. No luck through nurseries and I have begun checking on Trade Me daily. Can you help? Genuinely, with thanks Robyn -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org From xerantheum@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:41:45 -1000 I think this is a very worth while pursuit for the PBS. It's great bulb knowledge that should be preserved and shared. Jim had volunteered to ask so maybe he will update us soon. Nhu On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Jane McGary wrote: > Roy is right, this is a wonderful read. I have a long run of it but not > quite a full set, unbound. I think I have Brian Mathew's email address and > can write to him if we decide to seek permission. > > Jane McGary > > Portland, Oregon, USA > From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <2DFE2464-E264-4B38-9D53-66D09E73FDD3@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:19:08 -0500 Nhu and all: I sent a note asking 1) does he have an electronic version already available or 2) Can PBS have permission to post an electroic version And is a full set of all remaining issues available in any form. I’ll let you know his reply. Best Jim On Aug 30, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Nhu Nguyen wrote: I think this is a very worth while pursuit for the PBS. It's great bulb knowledge that should be preserved and shared. Jim had volunteered to ask so maybe he will update us soon. Nhu On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Jane McGary wrote: > Roy is right, this is a wonderful read. I have a long run of it but not > quite a full set, unbound. I think I have Brian Mathew's email address and > can write to him if we decide to seek permission. > > Jane McGary > > Portland, Oregon, USA > Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From cumbleton@yahoo.co.uk Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <000501d20390$a77592c0$f660b840$@yahoo.co.uk> From: "Paul Cumbleton" Subject: Brian Mathew's 'The Bulb Newsletter' Collection Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 15:04:55 +0100 This is a really good idea. I have emailed Brian to ask for his thoughts on this and I will report back as soon as I hear from him Paul Cumbleton, U.K. From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <2109837345.3064254.1472678325061@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: for konjac fans Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 21:18:45 +0000 (UTC) The big titan arum flowered at the US Botanic Garden again this year, and when that happens there usually follows a buzz among local aroid growers about the related Amorphophallus konjac. This year I was able to provide local konjac growers with an image of something we've known about for years, something most of us had not actually seen. Take a look here: http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2016/08/amorphophallus-konjac-konnyaku_5.html Have any of you tried it?  Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where one-time-lily-family member Smilax laurifolia is in full bloom: the individual flowers are about 1/8 inch across and are mostly 15-20 feet up in a crepe myrtle.  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From xerantheum@gmail.com Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: for konjac fans Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:15:10 -1000 Jim, I've tried a sweet jelly made from it. It wasn't anything remarkable, except that it was slightly chewier than jello - a good substitute for vegetarians. The ingredient list on the back says that it contains hydrated lime. I wonder if that was necessary to set the starch, much like in the production of tofu. Nhu On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Jim McKenney > This year I was able to provide local konjac growers with an image of > something we've known about for years, something most of us had not > actually seen. Take a look here: http://mcwort.blogspot.c > om/2016/08/amorphophallus-konjac-konnyaku_5.html > > Have any of you tried it? > From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 01 Sep 2016 06:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <647153971.3154261.1472689548410@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: for konjac fans Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 00:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Nhu, in spite of the label which calls it yam cake, it's squishy-runny and seems to have no body. I have not opened the package yet.  Jim McKenney _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki