From avbeek1@hotmail.com Sat, 01 Apr 2017 07:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Aad van Beek Subject: Klister hippeastrums Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 13:20:31 +0000 Klister is a Dutch term to describe a number of bulbs tightly joined together (in a cluster). But have not seen it as sales term used for any Hippeastrum. Instead these klister bulbs are sold as Hippeastrum multiflora. Most notably sold as the garden series like white garden, happy garden, red garden and yellow garden. Google will certainly list some vendors that have them in their assortment. On 3/30/2017 8:31 PM, James Waddick wrote: > Dear Dennis, > > I Googled Kister Amaryllis and Klister Hippeastrum and got a number of interesting hits. > > Apparently Brent and Becky have sold Hippeastrum x 'Supreme Garden' And they look great. Google this for more. > > > And ‘Edensbloom offers at least one http://www.edensblooms.com/product/AO50 > > I’ll bet there are more, but thius is just NOT the season. I gogled ‘Cluster Hippeastrum” - don’t bother. > > When you find a good source in the fall, let me know. Tempting-very tempting. Jim W. > > On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: > > Is anyone growing 'Klister' hippeastrums? I guess these aren't anything > new, but they're new to me. Apparently it's the dutch word for cluster, > referring to the way the bulbs form multiple offsets quickly, which can > bloom when small (the size of a quarter). > > Dennis in Cincinnati > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Sat, 01 Apr 2017 14:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <1070399524.7952891.1491078551097@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: Klister hippeastrums Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 20:29:11 +0000 (UTC) I believe that Aad donated some of these hippeastrums to the BX a year or two ago. Dell -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 4/1/17, Aad van Beek wrote: Subject: Re: [pbs] Klister hippeastrums To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Date: Saturday, April 1, 2017, 9:20 AM Klister is a Dutch term to describe a number of bulbs tightly joined together (in a cluster). But have not seen it as sales term used for any  Hippeastrum. Instead these klister bulbs are sold as Hippeastrum multiflora. Most notably sold as the garden series like white garden, happy garden, red garden and yellow garden. Google will certainly list some vendors that have them in their assortment. On 3/30/2017 8:31 PM, James Waddick wrote: > Dear Dennis, > >     I Googled Kister Amaryllis and Klister Hippeastrum and got a number of interesting hits. > >     Apparently Brent and Becky have sold Hippeastrum x 'Supreme Garden'  And they look great. Google this for more. > > >     And ‘Edensbloom offers at least one        http://www.edensblooms.com/product/AO50 > >     I’ll bet there are more, but thius is just NOT the season. I gogled ‘Cluster Hippeastrum” -  don’t bother. > >     When you find a good source in the fall, let me know. Tempting-very tempting.            Jim W. > > On Mar 30, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: > > Is anyone growing 'Klister' hippeastrums?  I guess these aren't anything > new, but they're new to me.  Apparently it's the dutch word for cluster, > referring to the way the bulbs form multiple offsets quickly, which can > bloom when small (the size of a quarter). > > Dennis in Cincinnati > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone     816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From xerantheum@gmail.com Mon, 03 Apr 2017 18:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Call for applications - 2017 MSI Grant for Bulb Studies Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 14:41:35 -1000 Dear PBS members, This is a call for application for the 2017 Mary Sue Ittner Grant for Bulb Studies. This grant is set up to support anyone interested in learning more about bulbs. It may be used to support any type of research, including field-work, and education. It is available to paid PBS members world-wide, and you may apply for membership when you submit your application. Last year we awarded three applications to study South African Geissorhiza, South American Habranthus, and Namibian Ledebouria. You will find the reports to these findings in a future issues of The Bulb Garden. For more information, visit the link to the grant page below. The award amount is $500 USD. The deadline for this year is May 1, 2017. The complete announcement, conditions, and additional information is found here: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/grant.html If you are a member of other geophytic societies/group, please pass on this announcement to help us spread the words. Sincerely, Nhu Nguyen President, PBS From totototo@telus.net Mon, 03 Apr 2017 19:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <58E2FA74.7060500@telus.net> From: Rodger Whitlock Subject: Cyclamen Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 18:44:20 -0700 On 17-04-03 06:16 PM, Kathleen Sayce wrote: > I garden in sand (fine beach sand, acidic, and well drained) and have > cyclamen all over my yard (yay! ants). Never water the plants. I also > do not amend the soil. They are wet all winter due to rain, growing > in soil that drains quickly, and dry all summer. Fresh water beach or salt water beach? It makes a difference because the latter will have endless shell fragments in it, providing an equally endless supply of calcium — which is good for cyclamen. Cyclamen species need relatively wet winters and relatively dry summers to do well. In contrast to Kathleen's garden, mine is on a delicious clay in a low spot vis a vis the surrounding terrain; I get standing water in the lowest part many winters. But it's dry in summer. For many years I considered the ideal site for cyclamen is in the duff that forms under conifers, heavily laced with lime to cut the acidity. Miracle of miracles, my clay is NOT sticky when wet, unlike the blue marine clay so common in the Pacific NW. And the ants have performed miracles: the driveway to my house runs the length of a 300' lane, and there is Cyclamen repandum all through it now. From jane@deskhenge.com Mon, 03 Apr 2017 20:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane Sargent Subject: hyacinths Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 22:34:58 -0400 I´m in Washington DC for a meeting, staying at a hotel. Outside is a garden bed packed with about 500 mixed standard Dutch hyacinths. The scent is beyond captivating. In the next bed over are about 1500 orange tulips in bloom. These aren´t rare, aren´t exotic, but so enrich the life of anyone who passes by. Jane Sargent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From hk@icarustrading.com Mon, 03 Apr 2017 20:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: From: From HK Subject: hyacinths Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 23:10:31 -0400 I have a trip coming up mid April to DC- may I ask what hotel? I would love to see this garden bed. Hk On Monday, April 3, 2017, Jane Sargent wrote: > I´m in Washington DC for a meeting, staying at a hotel. Outside is a > garden bed packed with about 500 mixed standard Dutch hyacinths. The scent > is beyond captivating. In the next bed over are about 1500 orange tulips in > bloom. > These aren´t rare, aren´t exotic, but so enrich the life of anyone who > passes by. > Jane Sargent > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From Neil.Crawford@volvo.com Tue, 04 Apr 2017 01:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <8a2de1d71a3c4ffea476dfa214c617da@SEGOTNC5117-N4.vcn.ds.volvo.net> From: Crawford Neil Subject: Plant interest in Rome? Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 07:41:42 +0000 Hi Jane, We enjoyed the Villa Borghese gardens, and you'll want to go there anyway for the galleria Borghese which is amazing. We didn't see a lot of flowers in November, and I wouldn't have too high expectations, but it's a lovely place for a walk. /Neil > On Mar 31, 2017, at 9:25 PM, Jane McGary wrote: > > I'm about to leave for 3 weeks in Rome (Roma). Mostly I will be looking at art and antiquities, but if there is an interesting botanic garden I would like to know of it. Italian garden style doesn't interest me much because of the limited plant material used. Does anyone have recommendations? > > Jane McGary > > Portland, Oregon, USA > **************************** This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or otherwise not authorized to receive this message, you are prohibited to use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this email or any information contained herein. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately by replying to this email and permanently delete this message and any attachments from your system. From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Tue, 04 Apr 2017 06:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <817620281.10781010.1491311702469@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: hyacinths Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 13:15:02 +0000 (UTC) HK wrote: "I have a trip coming up mid April to DC- may I ask what hotel?  I wouldlove to see this garden bed." I live in the Maryland suburbs about 14 miles north of the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C. Tulips in bloom today are unlikely to last until mid-April. Don't worry if you miss those tulips: Washington D.C. is probably one of the most beautiful cities in the world at this time of year - there will be plenty to see. Jim McKenney _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From hk@icarustrading.com Tue, 04 Apr 2017 09:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: From HK Subject: hyacinths Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 11:41:09 -0400 Thank you😌 On Tuesday, April 4, 2017, Jim McKenney wrote: > HK wrote: "I have a trip coming up mid April to DC- may I ask what hotel? > I wouldlove to see this garden bed." > I live in the Maryland suburbs about 14 miles north of the Capitol > Building in Washington, D.C. Tulips in bloom today are unlikely to last > until mid-April. Don't worry if you miss those tulips: Washington D.C. is > probably one of the most beautiful cities in the world at this time of year > - there will be plenty to see. Jim McKenney > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From robin@hansennursery.com Tue, 04 Apr 2017 10:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <000e01d2ad5e$da08b320$8e1a1960$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: Call for applications - 2017 MSI Grant for Bulb Studies Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 09:16:43 -0700 Nhu, I'd like to put this in the Bulb Garden, if that's ok... Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Nhu Nguyen Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 5:42 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: [pbs] Call for applications - 2017 MSI Grant for Bulb Studies Dear PBS members, This is a call for application for the 2017 Mary Sue Ittner Grant for Bulb Studies. This grant is set up to support anyone interested in learning more about bulbs. It may be used to support any type of research, including field-work, and education. It is available to paid PBS members world-wide, and you may apply for membership when you submit your application. Last year we awarded three applications to study South African Geissorhiza, South American Habranthus, and Namibian Ledebouria. You will find the reports to these findings in a future issues of The Bulb Garden. For more information, visit the link to the grant page below. The award amount is $500 USD. The deadline for this year is May 1, 2017. The complete announcement, conditions, and additional information is found here: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/grant.html If you are a member of other geophytic societies/group, please pass on this announcement to help us spread the words. Sincerely, Nhu Nguyen President, PBS ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus Database: 4769/14232 - Release Date: 04/03/17 From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Thu, 06 Apr 2017 15:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <58FD5A9A-4F90-4756-B7FE-6714E43B0DF2@gmail.com> From: Kathleen Sayce Subject: Cyclamen Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:44:59 -0700 On 17-04-03 06:16 PM, Kathleen Sayce > wrote: > I garden in sand (fine beach sand, acidic, and well drained) and have > cyclamen all over my yard (yay! ants). Never water the plants. I also > do not amend the soil. They are wet all winter due to rain, growing > in soil that drains quickly, and dry all summer. From Rodger Whitlock: Fresh water beach or salt water beach? It makes a difference because the latter will have endless shell fragments in it, providing an equally endless supply of calcium ? which is good for cyclamen. Salt water, and calcium levels are vanishingly small in local soils. I add Ca every year. High rainfall and moderately acidic soil means the calcium that is here is very mobile. We say of those water soluble nutrients that they wave at the plant roots as they wash by. Kathleen From jane@deskhenge.com Thu, 06 Apr 2017 17:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane Sargent Subject: hyacinths and tulips Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 20:15:04 -0400 I am staying at the Washington Marriott Wardman Park hotel here in DC. I agree that there are wonderful garden beds (usually tulips) and flowering trees all over Washington in the spring. At home this fall, I´ll just have to plant more hyacinths. More! Always more! Jane Sargent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From macjohn@mac.com Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <7AFB6694-AC03-4257-BABB-E2438347E7B8@mac.com> From: John Willis Subject: Tigridia pavonia Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 21:21:55 -0400 I found this an interesting post because I had only just noticed last month in my greenhouse that a pot of Tigridia pavonia that I was about to throw out for lack of growth had a bunch of bulbs in it — and all had migrated to the bottom of the pot, not where I had planted them originally. And now I see vigorous new growth coming from the bulbs. It will be interesting to see if they flower. — jw > On Mar 17, 2017, at 1:02 AM, Mary Sue Ittner wrote: > > When I lived in Stockton, California I grew Tigridia pavonia in raised beds with perennial flowers. It came back year after year and produced a succession of flowers. I haven't had a lot of luck growing it successfully in coastal Northern California where we get much more rain in winter and summer temperatures are cooler, especially at night. Purchased bulbs I put in the ground didn't reappear so I tried growing some from seed and keeping them in pots. I had some success with that, but very few flowers and nothing in subsequent years. Still, when I saw the photos of Ellen's 'Sunset in Oz' I was smitten and so when I saw if offered in the NARGS seed exchange I decided it would be worth it if I got to see a couple of flowers. And I was curious what they would look like. I had discovered from my other experiences growing this species from seed that it was possible to get it to bloom the first year if you transplanted it up to a deeper pot after it came up and fertilized it. I sowed seed on February 22 and seedlings started emerging on April 15. The first flowers appeared in September. Five bulbs bloomed that month. Luckily I was home as the flowers only last for part of a day. Two of them resembled the cultivar and the other three did not. The following month a second flower was produced on two of the plants. And that was it. Seven flowers lasting less than a day. > > I moved the pot into my greenhouse so it could be dry over the winter and didn't repot. The second year there were lots of leaves and only one flower one day. But it was a beautiful red and it happened on my husband's birthday so that was special. > > I moved the pot in the greenhouse again when it went dormant and recently I unpotted and discovered there were lots of bulbs of different sizes which really surprised me. I probably should give it up as I obviously don't have the right climate to grow these, but I'm giving them one more chance and planted a few of them out and a few in a pot and am sending the rest to Dell for the BX. If they can flower from seed in months, it would seem there would be a chance for smaller bulbs to flower this year. I added photos of my 8 flowers to the wiki. > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Tigridia_pavonia#Sunset > > After years of drought we've had a lot of rain and some things are flowering that I haven't seen for years so that is very exciting. > > Mary Sue > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki Gardens get wilder every day … MacGardens _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From anitaroselle@gmail.com Sun, 09 Apr 2017 18:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Anita Roselle Subject: Arisaema and Fritillaria Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 20:44:20 -0400 Update on the Arisaema sikokianum, I planted them 2 years ago and saw no evidence that they had survived. Just last week I was doing some cleanup in the area where they had been planted and found that they were coming up in two places where the very small seedlings were planted and one shoot where the full size plant had been planted. They are all very small so far but there is the hope that they will continue to grow and become mature plants. I am thrilled. As to the pot grown plants they are in very good potting soil not my native clay garden soil and probably do have better drainage, the ones in the garden are on an incline so water does not pool there. Anita R. On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Johannes-Ulrich Urban < johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de> wrote: > Hello Anita and Ben > > For the disappearing Arisaema I still don't understand if you planted > dormant tubers or actively growing plants of A. sikokianum in late summer. > As I have never been able to grow this plant myself I don't know how long > it's growing cycle is. Dormant Arisaema tubers lose their roots completely > unlike many other geophytes so will not settle in a new environment. > Somehow your growing conditions of the pot grown plants must differ from > open garden culture, is it drainage? > > Thank you Ben for your remarks on the tetraploid Fritillaria. But tetras > do at least bear some fertile seed in general or am I wrong? > Is the Dutch commercial stock of this bulb only propagated vegetatively? > It is so strange that all my other F. Imperialis never set seed and this > one does but without any germination. > > Thank you and bye for today > > Uli > > Von meinem iPad gesendet > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From klazina1@gmail.com Sun, 09 Apr 2017 20:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <29932a7e-b493-2dc4-f142-106f99bfa157@gmail.com> From: Ina Crossley Subject: Tigridia Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:37:07 +1200 For those interested in Tigridia, on Facebook is a group just for Tigridia and some close relations, where seed is shared. https://www.facebook.com/groups/cultivodetigridias/permalink/220517901760037/?hc_location=ufi I will send seed to the PBS as per usual, but this group is a great source of various members of this family. It is not just Tigridia pavonia. Ina From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Mon, 10 Apr 2017 09:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Kathleen Sayce Subject: pacific horticulture Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 09:08:33 -0700 In the latest issue of Pacific Horticulture, there’s a short article by Earl Nickel on South African bulbs from the Cape Floral Region. Kathleen _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From tiede@pacbell.net Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <005f01d2b21b$fbf404a0$f3dc0de0$@net> From: "Bracey Tiede" Subject: pacific horticulture Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:00:39 -0700 I wish he had focused on only a couple of SA bulbs instead of a shallow survey of many. Cheers, Bracey -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Sayce Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:09 AM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] pacific horticulture In the latest issue of Pacific Horticulture, there’s a short article by Earl Nickel on South African bulbs from the Cape Floral Region. Kathleen _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Tue, 11 Apr 2017 06:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <529541776.545506.1491914330632@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 416 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Dear All,       The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at mailto:ds429@frontier.com   Include "BX 416" in the subject line.         SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 – $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE.     Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website:         If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Dell Sherk 55 W. High St. Salem, WV 26426 USA Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Dell's email address ds429@frontier.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.             I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! From Mary Sue Ittner: Bulbs: 1. Achimenes 'Pink Cloud' - from earlier BX, originally was soft pink; later years a bright pink appeared in the middle of the soft pink 2. Gloxinella lindeniana - from earlier BX 3. Oxalis sp. Mexico - summer growing - originally from Uli Urban http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/MiscellaneousOxalis#sp 4. Tigridia pavonia 'Sunset in Oz' - bulbs grown from seed with this name 5. Zantedeschia 'Blaze' From Dennis Kramb: 6. Rhizomes of Achimenes  'Rosy Frost' 7. Rhizomes of Achimenes  'Summer Sunset' From Rimmer de Vries: 8. Haemanthus albiflos seedings 2 yrs old (FEW) 9. Haemanthus pauculifolius seeds  (VERY FEW) From Uli Urban: 10. Achimenes patens. These are stem bulbils which are much smaller than normal rhizomes and therefore easier to ship. They would benefit from an overnight soak in lukewarm water before planting. The plant itself becomes fairly big, best in a hanging basket. Has a long vegetative period. Large showy purple flowers. 11. Arisaema consanguineum 'The Perfect Wave ' and 'Wild Blue Yonder' mixed small tubers. Both are offsets from the original plants, selected by Ellen Hornig. Very beautiful and good performers. Hardy but pot grown with me, performance is better this way. Thanks again to Ellen for sharing these many years ago. 12. Arisaema tortuosum, small tubers. Can become very big, mine are seed grown and have flowered and made offsets for the first time last summer. Pot grown and not tested for hardiness. 13. Small corms of Gladiolus cruentus. Summer growing but has a long growing cycle and flowers late in the season, sometimes spoiled by bad weather. Multiplies well. 14. Gladiolus dalenii 'Boone' a straightforward and easy summer grower. The interesting thing about this form is that it has branching inflorescences. These are very small bulbils for obvious reasons. Sometimes they do not sprout, this can be overcome by soaking them overnight in lukewarm water with a small amount of dish washing liquid. This helps the water to penetrate the hard shell to break dormancy. 15. Sauromatum horsfieldii, a small and charming plant except for its flowers. They do not smell like rotten meat like most of the family does but their smell seems fairly inoffensive first but is very irritating on the long run. The charm is the foliage: dense low (max 25cm) shining velvety green with some patterns. Best in partial shade. Multiplies rapidly so better keep an eye on it. Mine are pot grown and not yet tested for hardiness. 16. Sauromatum or Typhonium giganteum: Deep blackish purple spathes before the leaves, I did not notice any offensive smell (no guarantee given). Elegant shiny bright green leaves, arrow shaped appear very late in the season. Not tested for hardiness, full sun. 17. Scadoxus multiflorus. Few seeds only. I had a big infructescense but unfortunately was not aware they would germinate inside the berry if left for too long. I had to sow the germinated seeds for myself. Summer growing, easy, big plants with big red flower balls. 18. Spathantheum orbignyanum. Summer growing Bolivian Aroid with big tubers. Flowers before the leaves. Strange smell. Lush foliage a little like Acanthus. Many people mistake the flowers for thin leaves, the true flowers are arranged toothbrush like UNDER the spathe and not visible from above. Multiplies well, definitely not hardy. 19. Last but not least a few leaf tubers of my lovely blue waterlily  (Nymphaea sp.) I wrote an article for the bulb garden on them so will only say: start them now in 25 deg centigrade warm water with maximum light and plant into a warm pond once the weather in your climate gets warm. From Dell Sherk: Bulbs: 20. Haemanthus albiflos 21. Haemanthus pauculifolius, originally from Telos 22. Eucharis amazonica, originally from Marie-Paule Opdenakker From Bob Hoel: 23. Small bulbs of Hippeastrum papilio 24. Small bulbs of Ornithogalum saundersiae Thank you, Mary Sue, Dennis, Rimmer, Uli, and Bob !! Best wishes, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From brugmansia@me.com Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <9B9858C4-5FA0-4ECA-93A2-FDDCAD925532@me.com> From: "Brug@me.com" Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 171, Issue 5 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:46:24 +1000 I would like the opportunity of the following please > 9. Haemanthus pauculifolius seeds? iPhone 6 Shaund > On 11 Apr 2017, at 10:41 pm, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: List-Archive: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Pacific Bulb Society BX 416 (ds429) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:38:50 +0000 (UTC) > From: ds429 > To: pbs > Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 416 > Message-ID: <529541776.545506.1491914330632@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dear All, > > ? ? ? The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. > If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at > > mailto:ds429@frontier.com > ? > Include "BX 416" in the subject line. > > > ? ? ? ? SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 ? $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE. > > ? ? Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: > > ? ? ? ? If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > > Dell Sherk > 55 W. High St. > Salem, WV 26426 > USA > > Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. > > ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > > Dell's email address > ds429@frontier.com > > Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. > IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > > >> From Mary Sue Ittner: > > Bulbs: > 1. Achimenes 'Pink Cloud' - from earlier BX, originally was soft pink; later years a bright pink appeared in the middle of the soft pink > > 2. Gloxinella lindeniana - from earlier BX > > 3. Oxalis sp. Mexico - summer growing - originally from Uli Urban > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/MiscellaneousOxalis#sp > > 4. Tigridia pavonia 'Sunset in Oz' - bulbs grown from seed with this name > > 5. Zantedeschia 'Blaze' > > >> From Dennis Kramb: > > 6. Rhizomes of Achimenes? 'Rosy Frost' > 7. Rhizomes of Achimenes? 'Summer Sunset' > >> From Rimmer de Vries: > > > 8. Haemanthus albiflos seedings 2 yrs old (FEW) > 9. Haemanthus pauculifolius seeds? (VERY FEW) > >> From Uli Urban: > > 10. Achimenes patens. These are stem bulbils which are much smaller than normal rhizomes and therefore easier to ship. They would benefit from an overnight soak in lukewarm water before planting. The plant itself becomes fairly big, best in a hanging basket. Has a long vegetative period. Large showy purple flowers. > > 11. Arisaema consanguineum 'The Perfect Wave ' and 'Wild Blue Yonder' mixed small tubers. Both are offsets from the original plants, selected by Ellen Hornig. Very beautiful and good performers. Hardy but pot grown with me, performance is better this way. Thanks again to Ellen for sharing these many years ago. > > 12. Arisaema tortuosum, small tubers. Can become very big, mine are seed grown and have flowered and made offsets for the first time last summer. Pot grown and not tested for hardiness. > > 13. Small corms of Gladiolus cruentus. Summer growing but has a long growing cycle and flowers late in the season, sometimes spoiled by bad weather. Multiplies well. > > 14. Gladiolus dalenii 'Boone' a straightforward and easy summer grower. The interesting thing about this form is that it has branching inflorescences. > These are very small bulbils for obvious reasons. Sometimes they do not sprout, this can be overcome by soaking them overnight in lukewarm water with a small amount of dish washing liquid. This helps the water to penetrate the hard shell to break dormancy. > > 15. Sauromatum horsfieldii, a small and charming plant except for its flowers. They do not smell like rotten meat like most of the family does but their smell seems fairly inoffensive first but is very irritating on the long run. The charm is the foliage: dense low (max 25cm) shining velvety green with some patterns. Best in partial shade. Multiplies rapidly so better keep an eye on it. Mine are pot grown and not yet tested for hardiness. > > 16. Sauromatum or Typhonium giganteum: Deep blackish purple spathes before the leaves, I did not notice any offensive smell (no guarantee given). Elegant shiny bright green leaves, arrow shaped appear very late in the season. Not tested for hardiness, full sun. > > 17. Scadoxus multiflorus. Few seeds only. I had a big infructescense but unfortunately was not aware they would germinate inside the berry if left for too long. I had to sow the germinated seeds for myself. Summer growing, easy, big plants with big red flower balls. > > 18. Spathantheum orbignyanum. Summer growing Bolivian Aroid with big tubers. Flowers before the leaves. Strange smell. Lush foliage a little like Acanthus. Many people mistake the flowers for thin leaves, the true flowers are arranged toothbrush like UNDER the spathe and not visible from above. Multiplies well, definitely not hardy. > > 19. Last but not least a few leaf tubers of my lovely blue waterlily? (Nymphaea sp.) I wrote an article for the bulb garden on them so will only say: start them now in 25 deg centigrade warm water with maximum light and plant into a warm pond once the weather in your climate gets warm. > >> From Dell Sherk: > > Bulbs: > > 20. Haemanthus albiflos > 21. Haemanthus pauculifolius, originally from Telos > 22. Eucharis amazonica, originally from Marie-Paule Opdenakker > >> From Bob Hoel: > > 23. Small bulbs of Hippeastrum papilio > 24. Small bulbs of Ornithogalum saundersiae > > Thank you, Mary Sue, Dennis, Rimmer, Uli, and Bob !! > > Best wishes, > Dell > > Dell Sherk, PBS BX > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 171, Issue 5 > *********************************** From robin@hansennursery.com Tue, 11 Apr 2017 08:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <000601d2b2d1$f253e8a0$d6fbb9e0$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 416 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 07:43:11 -0700 Dell has offered a terrific assortment of very cool bulbs so I hope folks can take advantage of this offer. Uli Urban's article on blue waterlilies will appear in the spring edition of the Bulb Journal because, very unfortunately, there wasn't enough room for all the articles I received. The Winter edition will soon be in your mailboxes. I hope you enjoy it! Robin Hansen Editor, The Bulb Garden Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com From jane@deskhenge.com Tue, 11 Apr 2017 10:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane Sargent Subject: zephyranthes Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 11:17:09 -0500 Should I be fertilizing the zephyranthes that are growing in the ground here in Mexico? Are they greedy? Jane From ds429@frontier.com Wed, 12 Apr 2017 06:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <1297223797.330298.1491999641476@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: Pacific BX 416 CLOSED Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Many too many orders!! Packages should go out in a week or so. Enjoy, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX From klazina1@gmail.com Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <90ae508b-4bb6-945f-982f-f792ba703b4d@gmail.com> From: Ina Crossley Subject: zephyranthes Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:57:30 +1200 Depends a lot on which Zephyranthes you are growing Jane. A lot are native to Mexico, so I doubt they would need fertiliser as they are growing in the ground. If you are on Facebook, there are two groups for these lovely bulbs. One is English and one is Spanish. Both cover the Mexican Zephyranthes and Habranthus and all other ones. https://www.facebook.com/groups/zephyranthes.habranthus/ https://www.facebook.com/groups/603734466471374/ Ina On 12/04/2017 4:17 a.m., Jane Sargent wrote: > Should I be fertilizing the zephyranthes that are growing in the > ground here in Mexico? Are they greedy? > > Jane > > From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <95E189E6-9EB0-4380-BE4F-BF87B0266465@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Sisyrinchium bellum 'Stripey' Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 16:48:01 -0500 Dear Friends, I am seeking a plant or a lead to get a start plant of Sisyrinchium bellum ‘Stripey’. I first saw this on-line several years ago, but still have not seen it available where I can get it. It is typical looking blue-eyed grass, but with nicely striped foliage. The University Of California had it in their plant sale a couple weeks ago. Of course being a California native it may not survive in Kansas City. I’d appreciate if anyone can give me or willing to sell or trade me for a start of this. Many thanks. Jim W. Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From rdevries@comcast.net Fri, 14 Apr 2017 06:17:18 -0700 Message-Id: From: Rimmer deVries Subject: Ornithogalum sigmoideum vs. O. sintenisii Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:50:10 -0400 how does one tell the difference between these two short stemmed Mediterranean thogs? Ornithogalum sigmoideum Ornithogalum sintenisii and is “Ornithogalum nanum” one of these? Rimmer SE MI Zone 5-6 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From wiggiedog@earthlink.net Fri, 14 Apr 2017 06:17:18 -0700 Message-Id: <000601d2b46c$05920910$10b61b30$@earthlink.net> From: "Debra Nichols" Subject: Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 08:37:56 -0700 Hello Bulb People: I am a "Bulb-Newcomer," even a "Garden-Newcomer," coming to Santa Barbara, CA 13 years ago from an X,Y,Z coordinate in the Chicago Skyline. I am looking for two plants: 1) Ixia Viridiflora and 2) Ixia Ploystachya. The wonderful thing about Santa Barbara is you put anything in the ground and it seems to grow. I have become quite taken with the plants listed and it seems they are appropriate for my "Zone." Any thoughts, insights or ideas about where these may be purchased would be appreciated. (Oh, and I saw a post a few weeks back about bringing things in from other places. Any consideration on that matter is also appreciated.) Due to the drought, our nurseries are very limited in what is available. It has even been difficult to get roses. Many thanks, Debra N. Santa Barbara, California (Zone 11) _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From penstemon@Q.com Fri, 14 Apr 2017 06:17:18 -0700 Message-Id: From: "penstemon" Subject: Ornithogalum sigmoideum vs. O. sintenisii Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:24:59 -0600 how does one tell the difference between these two short stemmed Mediterranean thogs? Ornithogalum sigmoideum Ornithogalum sintenisii and is “Ornithogalum nanum” one of these? Plantarium considers O. nanum to be a synonym of O. sigmoideum. The differences between O. sigmoideum http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/41420.html and O. sintenisii http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/70751.html aren’t easy to spot; might need a key. Freyn was the author of both species so there must be differences. Bob Nold Denver, Colorado, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From 64kkmjr@gmail.com Fri, 14 Apr 2017 06:17:18 -0700 Message-Id: From: Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> Subject: Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:26:24 -0700 Debra, you might try Annie's Annuals and Perennials. Karl Church On Apr 13, 2017 10:00 AM, "Debra Nichols" wrote: > Hello Bulb People: > > I am a "Bulb-Newcomer," even a "Garden-Newcomer," coming to Santa Barbara, > CA 13 years ago from an X,Y,Z coordinate in the Chicago Skyline. > > I am looking for two plants: 1) Ixia Viridiflora and 2) Ixia > Ploystachya. The wonderful thing about Santa Barbara is you put anything > in the ground and it seems to grow. I have become quite taken with the > plants listed and it seems they are appropriate for my "Zone." Any > thoughts, insights or ideas about where these may be purchased would be > appreciated. (Oh, and I saw a post a few weeks back about bringing things > in from other places. Any consideration on that matter is also > appreciated.) Due to the drought, our nurseries are very limited in what > is available. It has even been difficult to get roses. > > Many thanks, > > Debra N. > Santa Barbara, California (Zone 11) > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From wiggiedog@earthlink.net Fri, 14 Apr 2017 06:17:18 -0700 Message-Id: <001701d2b481$15223570$3f66a050$@earthlink.net> From: "Debra Nichols" Subject: Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:09:23 -0700 I have tried Annie's but they never have them in stock. I think they just advertise them as something they once had at a point in time. -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karl Church Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:26 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora Debra, you might try Annie's Annuals and Perennials. Karl Church On Apr 13, 2017 10:00 AM, "Debra Nichols" wrote: > Hello Bulb People: > > I am a "Bulb-Newcomer," even a "Garden-Newcomer," coming to Santa > Barbara, CA 13 years ago from an X,Y,Z coordinate in the Chicago Skyline. > > I am looking for two plants: 1) Ixia Viridiflora and 2) Ixia > Ploystachya. The wonderful thing about Santa Barbara is you put > anything in the ground and it seems to grow. I have become quite > taken with the plants listed and it seems they are appropriate for my > "Zone." Any thoughts, insights or ideas about where these may be > purchased would be appreciated. (Oh, and I saw a post a few weeks > back about bringing things in from other places. Any consideration on > that matter is also > appreciated.) Due to the drought, our nurseries are very limited in > what is available. It has even been difficult to get roses. > > Many thanks, > > Debra N. > Santa Barbara, California (Zone 11) > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From tiede@pacbell.net Fri, 14 Apr 2017 06:17:18 -0700 Message-Id: <005f01d2b485$4eb63620$ec22a260$@net> From: "Bracey Tiede" Subject: Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:39:35 -0700 We've purchased Ixias from Annie's in the past few years. Add them to your 'wishlist' on her website and you'll probably get them. The BX sometimes has them. Telos Rare Bulbs is a good source. Easytogrowbulbs.com near San Diego is listed in a new edition of _Where On Earth_, a book listing California nurseries and gardens. Fall is the best time to plant bulbs on the west coast. Cheers, Bracey Tiede San Jose CA -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Debra Nichols Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:09 AM To: 'Pacific Bulb Society' Subject: Re: [pbs] Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora I have tried Annie's but they never have them in stock. I think they just advertise them as something they once had at a point in time. -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karl Church Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:26 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora Debra, you might try Annie's Annuals and Perennials. Karl Church On Apr 13, 2017 10:00 AM, "Debra Nichols" wrote: > Hello Bulb People: > > I am a "Bulb-Newcomer," even a "Garden-Newcomer," coming to Santa > Barbara, CA 13 years ago from an X,Y,Z coordinate in the Chicago Skyline. > > I am looking for two plants: 1) Ixia Viridiflora and 2) Ixia > Ploystachya. The wonderful thing about Santa Barbara is you put > anything in the ground and it seems to grow. I have become quite > taken with the plants listed and it seems they are appropriate for my > "Zone." Any thoughts, insights or ideas about where these may be > purchased would be appreciated. (Oh, and I saw a post a few weeks > back about bringing things in from other places. Any consideration on > that matter is also > appreciated.) Due to the drought, our nurseries are very limited in > what is available. It has even been difficult to get roses. > > Many thanks, > > Debra N. > Santa Barbara, California (Zone 11) > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From 64kkmjr@gmail.com Fri, 14 Apr 2017 06:17:18 -0700 Message-Id: From: Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> Subject: Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:45:27 -0700 Sorry to hear that. I got them from her but no longer have them. On Apr 13, 2017 11:11 AM, "Debra Nichols" wrote: > I have tried Annie's but they never have them in stock. I think they just > advertise them as something they once had at a point in time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org > [mailto:pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karl Church > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:26 AM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Ixia Polystachya & Ixia Viridiflora > > Debra, you might try Annie's Annuals and Perennials. > > Karl Church > On Apr 13, 2017 10:00 AM, "Debra Nichols" wrote: > > > Hello Bulb People: > > > > I am a "Bulb-Newcomer," even a "Garden-Newcomer," coming to Santa > > Barbara, CA 13 years ago from an X,Y,Z coordinate in the Chicago Skyline. > > > > I am looking for two plants: 1) Ixia Viridiflora and 2) Ixia > > Ploystachya. The wonderful thing about Santa Barbara is you put > > anything in the ground and it seems to grow. I have become quite > > taken with the plants listed and it seems they are appropriate for my > > "Zone." Any thoughts, insights or ideas about where these may be > > purchased would be appreciated. (Oh, and I saw a post a few weeks > > back about bringing things in from other places. Any consideration on > > that matter is also > > appreciated.) Due to the drought, our nurseries are very limited in > > what is available. It has even been difficult to get roses. > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Debra N. > > Santa Barbara, California (Zone 11) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From scottrettenmund3@gmail.com Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Scott Rettenmund Subject: Sisyrinchium bellum 'Stripey' Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:32:22 -0700 Please remove me from the list On Wednesday, April 12, 2017, James Waddick wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I am seeking a plant or a lead to get a start plant of > Sisyrinchium bellum ‘Stripey’. I first saw this on-line several years ago, > but still have not seen it available where I can get it. It is typical > looking blue-eyed grass, but with nicely striped foliage. The University > Of California had it in their plant sale a couple weeks ago. Of course > being a California native it may not survive in Kansas City. > > I’d appreciate if anyone can give me or willing to sell or trade > me for a start of this. > > Many thanks. Jim W. > > > > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From scottrettenmund3@gmail.com Thu, 13 Apr 2017 13:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Scott Rettenmund Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 416 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:32:52 -0700 Please remove me from the list On Tuesday, April 11, 2017, Hansen Nursery wrote: > Dell has offered a terrific assortment of very cool bulbs so I hope folks > can take advantage of this offer. Uli Urban's article on blue waterlilies > will appear in the spring edition of the Bulb Journal because, very > unfortunately, there wasn't enough room for all the articles I received. > > The Winter edition will soon be in your mailboxes. I hope you enjoy it! > > Robin Hansen > Editor, The Bulb Garden > Hansen Nursery > robin@hansennursery.com > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Fri, 14 Apr 2017 04:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <1452463873.330847.1492165143433@mail.yahoo.com> From: Khanh Duong via pbs Subject: Ornithogalum sigmoideum vs. O. sintenisii Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:19:03 +0000 (UTC) By the spelling...   ;  )One's got  a 'u' in it..   :  ) Chris. On Thursday, 13 April 2017, 17:33, penstemon wrote: how does one tell the difference between these two short stemmed Mediterranean thogs? Ornithogalum sigmoideum Ornithogalum sintenisii and is “Ornithogalum nanum” one of these? Plantarium considers O. nanum to be a synonym of O. sigmoideum. The differences between O. sigmoideum http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/41420.html and O. sintenisii http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/70751.html aren’t easy to spot; might need a key. Freyn was the author of both species so there must be differences. Bob Nold Denver, Colorado, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From penstemon@Q.com Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <3C275B5D0D604686B37048692F974317@bobPC> From: "penstemon" Subject: Ornithogalum sintenisii, etc. (for Rimmer) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:25:39 -0600 O. sintenisii: “...leaves few, lance-linear to linear, deeply canaliculate, recurved, reaching 2-3 times the height of the inflorescence, 2-4 mm broad; scape 5-12 cm long , bearing 2-4 flowers, fruiting pedicels arcuately ascending, longer than the lanceolate bracts, perianth segments oblong-lanceolate, white, broadly green-banded beneath, 15-20mm long, short-acuminate, sometimes mucronate; stamens half the length of perianth segments...” O. schmalhausenii: “...scapes slender, weak, 4-10 cm long; leaves few, flat, narrowly linear to linear, 3-5 mm broad, rather strongly pointed at both ends, straight or arcuately recurved, equaling to half as long again as the scape, 6-20 mm long; inflorescence 1-3 flowered, rarely containing up to 8 flowers, pedicels slender, at first short and more or less erect, at length much elongated (3-5 cm) more or less arcuately upturned and greatly exceeding the lanceolate bracts; fruiting pedicels sometimes slightly thickened at the apex and at curvature; perianth segments 10-15 mm long, oblong-lanceolate, obtusish, broadly green-banded beneath...” O sigmoideum: “...scapes slender, short; linear linear or spatulate-linear, broadly canaliculate, white-banded beneath, cucullate, twice the length of scape or longer, 3-6 mm broad,; fruiting pedicels strongly twice arched (S-shaped), conspicuously clavately thickened above the base; perianth segments ca. 2 mm long, oblong, obtuse, green-banded below...” from Flora of the U.S.S.R. Bob Nold Denver, Colorado, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ruthsbooth@gmail.com Mon, 17 Apr 2017 11:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Ruth Ann Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 10:52:14 -0700 HI, Can you please remove me from your emailing list? Thanks so much! Ruth On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:04 AM, wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman1.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/pbs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@mailman1.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@mailman1.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: List-Archive: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sisyrinchium bellum 'Stripey' (Scott Rettenmund) > 2. Re: Pacific Bulb Society BX 416 (Scott Rettenmund) > 3. Re: Ornithogalum sigmoideum vs. O. sintenisii (Khanh Duong) > 4. Ornithogalum sintenisii, etc. (for Rimmer) (penstemon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:32:22 -0700 > From: Scott Rettenmund > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Sisyrinchium bellum 'Stripey' > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Please remove me from the list > > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017, James Waddick wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I am seeking a plant or a lead to get a start plant of > > Sisyrinchium bellum ?Stripey?. I first saw this on-line several years > ago, > > but still have not seen it available where I can get it. It is typical > > looking blue-eyed grass, but with nicely striped foliage. The University > > Of California had it in their plant sale a couple weeks ago. Of course > > being a California native it may not survive in Kansas City. > > > > I?d appreciate if anyone can give me or willing to sell or trade > > me for a start of this. > > > > Many thanks. Jim W. > > > > > > > > > > Dr. James Waddick > > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > > USA > > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 12:32:52 -0700 > From: Scott Rettenmund > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 416 > Message-ID: > y4Y4HQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Please remove me from the list > > On Tuesday, April 11, 2017, Hansen Nursery > wrote: > > > Dell has offered a terrific assortment of very cool bulbs so I hope folks > > can take advantage of this offer. Uli Urban's article on blue > waterlilies > > will appear in the spring edition of the Bulb Journal because, very > > unfortunately, there wasn't enough room for all the articles I received. > > > > The Winter edition will soon be in your mailboxes. I hope you enjoy it! > > > > Robin Hansen > > Editor, The Bulb Garden > > Hansen Nursery > > robin@hansennursery.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:19:03 +0000 (UTC) > From: Khanh Duong > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Ornithogalum sigmoideum vs. O. sintenisii > Message-ID: <1452463873.330847.1492165143433@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > By the spelling...?? ;? )One's got? a 'u' in it..?? :? ) > Chris. > > On Thursday, 13 April 2017, 17:33, penstemon wrote: > > > how does one tell the difference between these two short stemmed > Mediterranean thogs? > Ornithogalum sigmoideum > Ornithogalum sintenisii > and is ?Ornithogalum nanum? one of these? > > > Plantarium considers O. nanum to be a synonym of O. sigmoideum. > The differences between O. sigmoideum http://www.plantarium.ru/page/ > image/id/41420.html > and O. sintenisii http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/70751.html > aren?t easy to spot; might need a key. > Freyn was the author of both species so there must be differences. > Bob Nold > Denver, Colorado, USA > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:25:39 -0600 > From: "penstemon" > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" > Subject: [pbs] Ornithogalum sintenisii, etc. (for Rimmer) > Message-ID: <3C275B5D0D604686B37048692F974317@bobPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > O. sintenisii: ?...leaves few, lance-linear to linear, deeply > canaliculate, recurved, reaching 2-3 times the height of the inflorescence, > 2-4 mm broad; scape 5-12 cm long , bearing 2-4 flowers, fruiting pedicels > arcuately ascending, longer than the lanceolate bracts, perianth segments > oblong-lanceolate, white, broadly green-banded beneath, 15-20mm long, > short-acuminate, sometimes mucronate; stamens half the length of perianth > segments...? > > O. schmalhausenii: ?...scapes slender, weak, 4-10 cm long; leaves few, > flat, narrowly linear to linear, 3-5 mm broad, rather strongly pointed at > both ends, straight or arcuately recurved, equaling to half as long again > as the scape, 6-20 mm long; inflorescence 1-3 flowered, rarely containing > up to 8 flowers, pedicels slender, at first short and more or less erect, > at length much elongated (3-5 cm) more or less arcuately upturned and > greatly exceeding the lanceolate bracts; fruiting pedicels sometimes > slightly thickened at the apex and at curvature; perianth segments 10-15 mm > long, oblong-lanceolate, obtusish, broadly green-banded beneath...? > > O sigmoideum: ?...scapes slender, short; linear linear or > spatulate-linear, broadly canaliculate, white-banded beneath, cucullate, > twice the length of scape or longer, 3-6 mm broad,; fruiting pedicels > strongly twice arched (S-shaped), conspicuously clavately thickened above > the base; perianth segments ca. 2 mm long, oblong, obtuse, green-banded > below...? > > from Flora of the U.S.S.R. > > > Bob Nold > Denver, Colorado, USA > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://mailman1.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Wed, 19 Apr 2017 04:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <933311131.2978601.1492533710230@mail.yahoo.com> From: Amaryllis Study Group via pbs Subject: Fw: AMARYLLIS IN TREES !!! Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:41:50 +0000 (UTC)   ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Amaryllis Study Group To: "tfeps1@gmail.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:25 PM Subject: AMARYLLIS IN TREES !!!    I proudly announce with not a smidgeon of humility the successful technique for direct planting and blooming hybrid and papilio species amaryllis(hippeastrum) bulbs 8 to 13 feet up on grandfather live oaks' limb forks and large limbs with ferns and other flora on it in North Florida, Georgia, plusthe gulf states. South Florida amaryllis bulbs had bloomed in trees successfully in Sarasota, Naples, Ft. Meyers, Wellington, etc. for a decade or more.     In the giant live oaks at the beginning of the Belleview Library parking lot (near Ocala) one species (papilio) and 3 hybrid amaryllis (Double Delicious,Picotee, and Temptation) flowered this February (2017) 15 months after planting. I am delighted the hybrids bloomed 3 years quicker than the speciesand included both singles and doubles indicating well grown mature single and double varieties will bloom in a variety of mature trees in the southeasternU. S. The time for direct tree planting is spring to give as much warm spring and summer weather for the roots to bond in the forks and on the large limbsbefore the late summer storm, monsoon and then the dry cool season. Known successful host trees for amaryllis are live oak, water oak, white oak, pecan,screw pine, miniature date palm.   Do you want an assortment of varities in your favorite shade tree or a few limb forks and large branches with your favorite very dark black/red, rich pink, snow white,or a bicolor ? How about a rare color changer ? Move over bromeliads.  Grab your ladders or fire up a bucket truck it is tree planting timefor amaryllis !!! I will be at the historic Apopka Art and Foliage Festival last weekend in April. E. William WarrenAMARYLLIS STUDY GROUPamstgrp@yahoo.comAmaryllis Spectacularis352-694-7010352-216-8970 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 04:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <1d53a376-f6e2-1723-114a-213d120120f5@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: Spring Journals calls for editors, papers Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:05:37 +0100 Hi, We were spammed with this, might be the 1 in 1000 of interest. ================================================================ Spring Journals of Biological Sciences (http://springjournals.net/journals) is a multidisciplinary peer-reviewed journals published monthly by Spring Journals. Spring Journals of Biological Sciences is dedicated to increasing the depth of the subject across disciplines with the ultimate aim of expanding knowledge of the subject. Editors and reviewers Spring Journals of Biological Sciences is seeking qualified researchers to join its editorial team as editors, subeditors or reviewers. Kindly send your resume to review@springjournals.net Call for Papers Spring Journals of Biological Sciences (http://springjournals.net/journals) will cover all areas of the subject. The journals welcome the submission of manuscripts that meet the general criteria of significance and scientific excellence, and will publish: Original articles in basic and applied research Case studies Critical reviews, surveys, opinions, commentaries and essays We invite you to submit your manuscript(s) to manuscripts@springjournals.net for publication. Our objective is to inform authors of the decision on their manuscript(s) within four weeks of submission. Following acceptance, a paper will usually be published in the next issue. Instruction for authors and other details are available on our website; http://springjournals.net/jaeerd/author-guidelines Spring Journals is an Open Access Journals One key request of researchers across the world is unrestricted access to research publications. Open access gives a worldwide audience larger than that of any subscription-based journal and thus increases the visibility and impact of published works. It also enhances indexing, retrieval power and eliminates the need for permissions to reproduce and distribute content. AJBM is fully committed to the Open Access Initiative and will provide free access to all articles as soon as they are published. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <61e2afa5-f1b1-315d-585c-56236aa1234d@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:26:57 +0100 Hi, In the last week Ibiblio (our host) has changed the addresses attached to messages. If you have set up folder routing your messages may now be appearing somewhere other than their usual place. There has been some internal chat about moving the list to Google groups. The plus side is the possibility of including photos, retaining an email interface and avoiding the spam blocks [1] which are becoming more frequent. If anyone thinks a move to Google groups is a bad idea, let me know. [1] Service providers (e.g. AOL, Earthlink, Comcast) will often block all posts from the Ibiblio mail list machine - I then have to fill in forms and beg them to remove the block. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Wed, 19 Apr 2017 06:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <4D12645B-9F22-4C54-9914-DF804BE81C58@earthlink.net> From: Jane Mcgary Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:13:59 +0200 Having suffered from the spam block issue, I'm in favor of the proposed move. I would hope however, that members would be conservative about including photos in consideration of those for whom high speed internet isn't available. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA Writing from Rome, where the wifi is nice and fast Sent from my iPad > On Apr 19, 2017, at 1:26 PM, David Pilling wrote: > > Hi, > > In the last week Ibiblio (our host) has changed the addresses attached to messages. If you have set up folder routing your messages may now be appearing somewhere other than their usual place. > > There has been some internal chat about moving the list to Google groups. > > The plus side is the possibility of including photos, retaining an email interface and avoiding the spam blocks [1] which are becoming more frequent. > > If anyone thinks a move to Google groups is a bad idea, let me know. > > > > [1] > Service providers (e.g. AOL, Earthlink, Comcast) will often block all posts from the Ibiblio mail list machine - I then have to fill in forms and beg them to remove the block. > > > -- > David Pilling > www.davidpilling.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jane@deskhenge.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 07:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <775183c2-a87d-5bac-6320-121e8bd19f05@deskhenge.com> From: Jane Sargent Subject: in trees Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:55:28 -0500 Cripes, I have enough trouble just growing things in the ground. Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <1760468165.3681223.1492613149186@mail.yahoo.com> From: Matthew Fidelibus via pbs Subject: Ferraria from late-planted seed Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Dear PBSers,Newby that I am, I planted seeds of Ferraria crispa, ferrariola, and densipunctulata, in winter rather than fall, and they took forever to germinate, but are now finally coming up. So now, in spring, I have everything from just-sprouted seeds to seedlings with up to two leaves. I live in Fresno, California, so hot weather is on the horizon. Any tips on possibly keeping these seedlings going long enough to become viable plants, or are they simply "too little, too late"?Thanks! Matt _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Kathleen Sayce Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:40:37 -0700 I am in favor of giving Google groups a try, and did wonder why this ended up in my junk email bin. As for photos, perhaps we could consider a 3 photo limit? Along with file sizes of 1M or less. Kathleen _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <99403086-851a-0a02-dc9d-273ab92a8590@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 17:36:48 +0100 Hi, I believe you only see photos in Google groups via the web - they don't come with emails. No byte size worries. I have used Freelists for many years for my software mail list, brilliant, for a long time it was limited to technology lists, good news it no longer has that limitation, but apparently it does not encourage attachments. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From xerantheum@gmail.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 06:55:06 -1000 Dear David and bulbophiles, I think that switching to Google Groups is a important and almost essential move for the PBS. Since the conception of the PBS 15 years ago, we have been on the ibiblio server. We liked using them because they supported self-archiving and at the beginning of the internet, they were great. It seems that they can no longer keep up with evolving technology and we too must change the way we operate. With Google we can also do self-archiving so we do not need to worry about losing all the precious knowledge discussed on this list. For a long time, members of this forum has asked for images and David explored that option behind the scenes. I think that a switch to Google Groups will not only facilitate messages being delivered, we will have the added advantage of images as well. Size limitation isn't bad and for the most part. If you prefer to show large images, simply link them from elsewhere or drop them in from your Google Drive (if you use Google services such as Gmail, you will already have free storage space with Google). This is very do-able. A while back I sent out a survey to our list members and the majority supported a switch. On the user end, you don't need to do anything different. Simply write to the PBS List as you had always been using your favorite emailing program and you can even attach small-sized images. I think everyone will enjoy the new service. Best, Nhu Nguyen President, PBS On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:13 AM, Jane Mcgary wrote: > Having suffered from the spam block issue, I'm in favor of the proposed > move. I would hope however, that members would be conservative about > including photos in consideration of those for whom high speed internet > isn't available. > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA > Writing from Rome, where the wifi is nice and fast > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 19, 2017, at 1:26 PM, David Pilling > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > In the last week Ibiblio (our host) has changed the addresses attached > to messages. If you have set up folder routing your messages may now be > appearing somewhere other than their usual place. > > > > There has been some internal chat about moving the list to Google groups. > > > > The plus side is the possibility of including photos, retaining an email > interface and avoiding the spam blocks [1] which are becoming more frequent. > > > > If anyone thinks a move to Google groups is a bad idea, let me know. > > > > > > > > [1] > > Service providers (e.g. AOL, Earthlink, Comcast) will often block all > posts from the Ibiblio mail list machine - I then have to fill in forms and > beg them to remove the block. > > > > > > -- > > David Pilling > > www.davidpilling.com > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From 64kkmjr@gmail.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: From: Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> Subject: Ferraria from late-planted seed Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:19:04 -0700 Matthew, I live in Dinuba and grow most of my plants in pots so I've a habit of moving them around to areas that allow them to grow over an extended period. If they're in the ground, you're going to need to shade them as well as keeping them moist. Good luck. Karl Church zone 9b On Apr 19, 2017 7:50 AM, "Matthew Fidelibus via pbs" < pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org> wrote: > Dear PBSers,Newby that I am, I planted seeds of Ferraria crispa, > ferrariola, and densipunctulata, in winter rather than fall, and they took > forever to germinate, but are now finally coming up. So now, in spring, I > have everything from just-sprouted seeds to seedlings with up to two > leaves. I live in Fresno, California, so hot weather is on the horizon. Any > tips on possibly keeping these seedlings going long enough to become viable > plants, or are they simply "too little, too late"?Thanks! > Matt > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: From: John Ralph Carpenter via pbs Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:43:21 +0100 Images would be great. See the Scottish Rock Garden Forum for masterclass in how to do things. On 19 Apr 2017 18:07, "David Pilling" wrote: Hi, I believe you only see photos in Google groups via the web - they don't come with emails. No byte size worries. I have used Freelists for many years for my software mail list, brilliant, for a long time it was limited to technology lists, good news it no longer has that limitation, but apparently it does not encourage attachments. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From erik@tepuidesign.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Erik Van Lennep Subject: Fw: AMARYLLIS IN TREES !!! Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 22:27:18 +0200 This possibly the most exciting news I have read all year. Thanks for sharing the success! erik van lennep Barcelona, Spain youth and elders short video http://www.linkedin.com/in/erikvanlennep <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> “I know of no restorative of heart, body, and soul more effective against hopelessness than the restoration of the Earth.” —BARRY LOPEZ” _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From garak@code-garak.de Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Garak Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:35:05 +0200 Hi, Does the google list allow for a "neutral" export format, not binding us to google (our current solution stores html) ? Last thing we would want was that any provider could strip us off our list history. Technical aspects are one thing - are we sure that the legal stuff is all right? In which way do they process our content and/or the members list and what kind of information do they distill from this? -- Martin ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From s.gage100@hotmail.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Shelley Gage Subject: Fw: AMARYLLIS IN TREES !!! Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 00:19:37 +0000 I have photographed Hippeastrums growing in trees in the Atlantic forest east of Sao Paulo ________________________________ From: pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org on behalf of Amaryllis Study Group via pbs Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2017 2:41 AM To: amstgrp@yahoo.com Subject: [pbs] Fw: AMARYLLIS IN TREES !!! ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Amaryllis Study Group To: "tfeps1@gmail.com" Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:25 PM Subject: AMARYLLIS IN TREES !!! I proudly announce with not a smidgeon of humility the successful technique for direct planting and blooming hybrid and papilio species amaryllis(hippeastrum) bulbs 8 to 13 feet up on grandfather live oaks' limb forks and large limbs with ferns and other flora on it in North Florida, Georgia, plusthe gulf states. South Florida amaryllis bulbs had bloomed in trees successfully in Sarasota, Naples, Ft. Meyers, Wellington, etc. for a decade or more. In the giant live oaks at the beginning of the Belleview Library parking lot (near Ocala) one species (papilio) and 3 hybrid amaryllis (Double Delicious,Picotee, and Temptation) flowered this February (2017) 15 months after planting. I am delighted the hybrids bloomed 3 years quicker than the speciesand included both singles and doubles indicating well grown mature single and double varieties will bloom in a variety of mature trees in the southeasternU. S. The time for direct tree planting is spring to give as much warm sprin g and summer weather for the roots to bond in the forks and on the large limbsbefore the late summer storm, monsoon and then the dry cool season. Known successful host trees for amaryllis are live oak, water oak, white oak, pecan,screw pine, miniature date palm. Do you want an assortment of varities in your favorite shade tree or a few limb forks and large branches with your favorite very dark black/red, rich pink, snow white,or a bicolor ? How about a rare color changer ? Move over bromeliads. Grab your ladders or fire up a bucket truck it is tree planting timefor amaryllis !!! I will be at the historic Apopka Art and Foliage Festival last weekend in April. E. William WarrenAMARYLLIS STUDY GROUPamstgrp@yahoo.comAmaryllis Spectacularis352-694-7010352-216-8970 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php Pacific Bulb Society | List pacificbulbsociety.org The PBS List is an email discussion of bulbs, sponsored by the Pacific Bulb Society, for people around the world. Although bulbs (defined more broadly to include all ... http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki Welcome to the Pacific Bulb Society Wiki pacificbulbsociety.org This guide was created by the members of the Pacific Bulb Society e-mail discussion list, a group of people from around the world who are interested in growing and ... _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From robin@hansennursery.com Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <000f01d2b97a$080a5810$181f0830$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:01:31 -0700 Martin raises a good question about what kind of information Google would distill from this switch. I no longer use Google as a search engine for that very reason. Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de Thu, 20 Apr 2017 00:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <7D9D38C4-10E1-4B26-93B2-9967D4E4F5C7@t-online.de> From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:59:03 +0200 Dear All, How important will a size restriction for attachments be? I am not a technical person so maybe my question is not appropriate. But if I consider the very simple and all too often repeated instruction not to simply hit the reply button........ when sending messages to the PBS, I wonder if a size restriction for big pictures will work which needs a few more steps. Bye for today Uli Von meinem iPad gesendet _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 20 Apr 2017 05:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 06:49:57 -0500 Hi David, So this is why about 1/2 of my PBS emails arrive in my PBS mail box and the other half arrived in my personal email box. A minor inconvenience, but odd. Jim W. On Apr 19, 2017, at 6:26 AM, David Pilling wrote: Hi, In the last week Ibiblio (our host) has changed the addresses attached to messages. If you have set up folder routing your messages may now be appearing somewhere other than their usual place. There has been some internal chat about moving the list to Google groups. The plus side is the possibility of including photos, retaining an email interface and avoiding the spam blocks [1] which are becoming more frequent. If anyone thinks a move to Google groups is a bad idea, let me know. [1] Service providers (e.g. AOL, Earthlink, Comcast) will often block all posts from the Ibiblio mail list machine - I then have to fill in forms and beg them to remove the block. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Thu, 20 Apr 2017 06:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <8538786d-39d6-9a8b-90e0-3769bee7c6ba@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:42:47 +0100 Hi, On 20/04/2017 07:59, Johannes-Ulrich Urban wrote: > How important will a size restriction for attachments be? If I have anything to do with it, there will be no restriction and people will only see big pictures if they want to (good news Mississippi). I have seen lists with voluntary restrictions on size, and it's a mess if enforced, most people have no idea how big things are, most of the rest can't scale down a picture. If not enforced it works fine, people can live with the occasional multi-megabyte image. The whole "size" thing is something from computing in the 1980s. Not relevant today (even less tomorrow). On the PBS wiki, we have thumbnails, we have multi-size images, and we have automatic scaling down. Let the computers worry about computer stuff. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From robin@hansennursery.com Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <000b01d2b9e2$89fd9310$9df8b930$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:29:35 -0700 With all due respect to David's expertise with computers, I live in the backwoods of Oregon and size matters. If an email with attachments is too large, it doesn't come through, but perhaps I'm misunderstanding his comments and just need more explanation about how we avoid the issue altogether.... He's right when he says "people have no idea how big things are, most of the rest can't scale down a picture." I run into that frequently with family members. Spring is slowly coming, now if the bees will just show up when they should, I'll be happy. Many plants are blooming wonderfully this year due to the abundant rain. Robin Hansen Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com SW coast of Oregon _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <8f257f8f-1215-52e3-7d53-cddf0b408ee1@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:47:29 +0100 Hi Robin, On 20/04/2017 15:29, Hansen Nursery wrote: > backwoods of Oregon and size matters. If an email with attachments is too > large, it doesn't come through, but perhaps I'm misunderstanding his > comments and just need more explanation about how we avoid the issue The email has a link (negligible size cost), your choice whether to click the link or if your email program displays the link automatically. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From garak@code-garak.de Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <88eb707c-ecf6-8dec-3be8-94cb53dd4cfe@code-garak.de> From: Garak Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:54:09 +0200 Am 20.04.2017 um 14:42 schrieb David Pilling: > > > The whole "size" thing is something from computing in the 1980s. Not > relevant today (even less tomorrow). I don't agree in that particular point, since file sizes increased nearly as fast as the speed of the connections and the transfer limits of providers - modern cameras produce huge pictures both in resolution and quality. But since you suggest a linking solution we could combine this with a technical enforcement, just as the wiki already does - server computing capacity is another thing that got cheaper, so resizing and, if that's not enough, forcing a better jpg compression should be no problem, and most people won't even notice the visual loss from reducing to 70% jpg quality. meanwhile i'm bracing for another frosty night - after a very warm late march with occasional 25°C, last night's -3°C were devastating. Most potted bulbs are safe back in the garage, which is filled with the scent of Gladiolus tristis right now. but out in the open, it's heartbreaking: lilacs and plume poppy, Hosta, Hibiscus syriacus, Buddleja, the Kiwis and Zanthoxylum share various shades of brown, let's hope night 2 will not add more to that list. -- Martin ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From xerantheum@gmail.com Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 11:09:46 -1000 On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Garak wrote: > forcing a better jpg compression should be no problem, and most people > won't even notice the visual loss from reducing to 70% jpg quality. > I do and it annoys the heck out of me every time! Nhu, a photographer. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From garak@code-garak.de Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <089383f4-560c-3b48-dc33-766baf88eb49@code-garak.de> From: Garak Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:46:25 +0200 Sometimes I see it, too - if you know what the algorithm does and what you have to look for... knowledge is a curse, but don't expect the average list member to notice. And you could always link to flickr if you want the full resolution source. But 80 or more percent of the average internet crowd won't even see sloppy quick&dirty retouching like this one https://www.flickr.com/photos/150325868@N06/33939110352/in/datetaken-public/ ... Am 20.04.2017 um 23:09 schrieb Nhu Nguyen: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Garak wrote: > >> forcing a better jpg compression should be no problem, and most people >> won't even notice the visual loss from reducing to 70% jpg quality. >> > I do and it annoys the heck out of me every time! > > Nhu, a photographer. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki -- Martin ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From sd142@iprimus.com.au Thu, 20 Apr 2017 16:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <8B0EA7A0-6C39-4335-9BA0-92D523353AEA@iprimus.com.au> From: Shaun Douglas Subject: Picture attachments Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:46:29 +1000 I have not added to the gallery of images @PBS as yet but will in the future I down size most pics of my pics for a website that needs no larger then 200kb I would suggest that the down size program be attached to the website and not left to the members as many will not post, many people find it hard to even know what Kb,Mb, or even pixels We found with out site that once member did not have to do any thing there pics the volume of pics increased Just my opinion Shaun iPhone 6 Shaund _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From lmf@beautifulblooms.ab.ca Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Linda Foulis Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:31:46 -0600 Hello all, I also belong to the clivia enthusiast group on yahoo which allows pics, I'm not sure if there are restrictions on size or not. I live next to the middle of nowhere and rely 100% on cell service and this %€> From: Tim Harvey Subject: Picture attachments Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:48:22 +0000 The pbs needs to act in the best interests of its members. If the choice is between an antiquated server which prevents sharing of images, and another which enables it, the choice is obvious. I would point out to those who complain about slow download rates that it is a two-way street. Perforce, you cannot contribute significantly either. T _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 03:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Cynthia Mueller Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 02:55:42 +0000 I am a member of the Gesneriad Society, whose members' chat list, like the PBS, is hosted by ibiblio.org. But ...folks are able to post images (sometimes several) with their list emails. The only stricture seems to be that the image should be 500Kb or smaller. So, if the Gesneriad folks can have images, why can't we? The address of their list owner is: gesneriphiles-owner@lists.ibiblio.org, if any one would like to ask how this was done. -CM Cynthia W Mueller _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:04:59 +0100 Hi Cynthia, On 21/04/2017 03:55, Cynthia Mueller wrote: > chat hosted by ibiblio.org. But ...folks are able to post images We have known for a long time that images were possible on mailman and ibiblio. Raises the question why have we done nothing, and if I have my doubts about ibiblio, why don't others. The Gesneriad Society list is here: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/gesneriphiles looks healthy, and the images work nicely. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From dkramb@badbear.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:30:24 -0400 I'm a member of the Gesneriad Society list too, and I actively post images there of my new seedlings' maiden blooms. I think it works great. I'm not sure what difficulties it is (if any) for the admins. It's a pretty healthy, active, vibrant group! And many gesneriads are geophytes. :-D Dennis in Cincinnati On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:04 AM, David Pilling wrote: > Hi Cynthia, > > On 21/04/2017 03:55, Cynthia Mueller wrote: > >> chat hosted by ibiblio.org. But ...folks are able to post images >> > > We have known for a long time that images were possible on mailman and > ibiblio. > > Raises the question why have we done nothing, and if I have my doubts > about ibiblio, why don't others. > > The Gesneriad Society list is here: > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/gesneriphiles > > looks healthy, and the images work nicely. > > > -- > David Pilling > www.davidpilling.com > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From msittner@mcn.org Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mary Sue Ittner Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:08:28 -0700 On 4/21/2017 6:04 AM, David Pilling wrote: > Raises the question why have we done nothing, and if I have my doubts > about ibiblio, why don't others. When this list was started many years ago, the decision was made not to allow images. At that time attachments were often the sources of viruses and we couldn't prevent that from happening. Also there were a lot of us who were on dial up and when we'd receive large images, we'd have to go away, sometimes for hours, while those images were being downloaded. And some people had limited storage on their email accounts and didn't want it to be filled with images that they might not have been interested in receiving. On other lists those people who did not want to receive images would unsubscribe. Image lists were created for all those people who just wanted to post images so you had one group posting images and sometimes talking about them and another group for conversation. We wanted to have a list where everyone could participate so we set it up for those people who did not have a fast connection or had limited storage instead of for those who had more. As Robin points out there are still some of us who live in rural areas of the US where high speed connection opportunities are limited. We created the wiki as a place for images or suggested people could upload them to a free location and give a link. Then those people who wanted to see them could click on the link. The wiki was much more simple in the early days so that more people took advantage of using it. A lot of those groups with double lists are now gone and the pbs list remains. David has been spending a lot of time for a lot of years now patiently trouble shooting multiple problems with this list. And that has become more challenging than it was in the beginning. He deserves a lot of praise for his efforts. Mary Sue _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jane@deskhenge.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <0942e026-506e-4072-db32-ffdda0bfc72a@deskhenge.com> From: Jane Sargent Subject: google lists Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:15:39 -0500 What I don´t know about Google groups is whether the Google search engine would post information about group members, such as a list of all your posts about amaryllis. I try to keep a pretty low searchable presence on the internet. Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From robin@hansennursery.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <000601d2baac$17ee9a60$47cbcf20$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: google lists Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:32:23 -0700 ++++What I don´t know about Google groups is whether the Google search engine would post information about group members, such as a list of all your posts about amaryllis. I try to keep a pretty low searchable presence on the internet.+++++ I think Jane raises a good point and and that is an area where I try very hard every day to keep a negligible presence. I think this approach works well because I don't have the problems of spam, hijacking, etc. that I would expect. It's one thing for me to have the nursery website, but another to expose my personal involvement in a non-business plant discussion.... Robin Hansen Hansen Nursery Robin at hansennursery.com Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.8013 / Virus Database: 4769/14359 - Release Date: 04/21/17 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <79F06862-C6C3-4117-8A35-69BFC96A78B7@gmail.com> From: Kathleen Sayce Subject: picture attachments Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:30:44 -0700 Like Robin, I live in a very rural area with extremely slow download speeds. it’s not quite like having a modem, but almost. Image size is a critical issue for my messages. That said, an internet based message area, with automatic resizing of photos, would be great. Many times I have wanted to put up a photo of a flower, or a bulb, or something eating same, or show a nice flowering display to the group. Kathleen _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Cynthia Mueller Subject: Dennis Kramb's seedlings Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 16:01:20 +0000 Dennis has some beautiful Smithiana seedlings displayed in the Gesneriad Society's e-zine 'Gleanings' this month. To see for yourself, you could google up the Gesneriad Society and click on Gleanings. A person can even subscribe to this e-zine without joining the society...but a word of warning: gesneriads are addicting! Cynthia W Mueller _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From xerantheum@gmail.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Fwd: Alastroemeria growers Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:36:00 -1000 If anyone can help Joe find sources of Alstroemeria in San Diego county, please let him know jtunner@pacira.com Nhu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Apache Date: Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:01 PM Subject: PBS website contact:Alastroemeria growers To: xerantheum@gmail.com I heard there was a small nursery that specialized in Alastroemeria in San Diego county - either in Vista, San Marcos, or Escondido. But have been able to find no further information. Does anyone in the PBS know if such exists and if so, who and where to find them? Thanks, Joe Tunner _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From alciemaxwell@gmail.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 18:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Alcie Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 19:06:37 -0500 Hey everyone, I'm one of the admins for the gesneriad ibiblio group (Gesneriphiles) that Dennis was referring to. Like Cynthia mentioned in an earlier message, we have an image size limit of 500KB. We had this same discussion a couple of years ago when we increased the file size from 100KB to 500KB. So, I see all points to this. Even with the increased file size, we haven't had any complaints from those with slower internet access. Would it be possible for you all to allow attached images for a couple of months to see how it works? Perhaps, try that out before switching over to Google Groups. (We've been thinking of moving over to Google Groups too. The ibiblio system is definitely a little antiquated). Alcie On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: > I'm a member of the Gesneriad Society list too, and I actively post images > there of my new seedlings' maiden blooms. I think it works great. I'm not > sure what difficulties it is (if any) for the admins. It's a pretty > healthy, active, vibrant group! And many gesneriads are geophytes. :-D > > Dennis in Cincinnati > > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:04 AM, David Pilling > wrote: > > > Hi Cynthia, > > > > On 21/04/2017 03:55, Cynthia Mueller wrote: > > > >> chat hosted by ibiblio.org. But ...folks are able to post images > >> > > > > We have known for a long time that images were possible on mailman and > > ibiblio. > > > > Raises the question why have we done nothing, and if I have my doubts > > about ibiblio, why don't others. > > > > The Gesneriad Society list is here: > > > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/gesneriphiles > > > > looks healthy, and the images work nicely. > > > > > > -- > > David Pilling > > www.davidpilling.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From plantsman@comcast.net Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <20170422024631.9C56021DF@lists.ibiblio.org> From: Nathan Lange Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 19:38:18 -0700 Three percent of Americans still used dial-up in 2013: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/08/21/3-of-americans-use-dial-up-at-home/ I didn't look up the stats for other countries. Of those Americans without broadband service in 2015, only 25% are interested in subscribing to broadband in the future: http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/12/21/home-broadband-2015/ The proposed change is long overdue. Nathan _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From robin@hansennursery.com Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <000801d2bb1b$0b79f9e0$226deda0$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 20:46:36 -0700 Just as a side note to "3 % of Americans still use dial-up". Many folks in the outlying areas of Coos County, Oregon can't even get dial-up due to lack of investment by Frontier and are forced to use satellite, which in this climate of heavy rainfall is not only slow, but erratic. My computer tech who owns Comp-U-Talk and builds my computers lives in one of those areas and is frustrated no end. Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From plantsman@comcast.net Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <20170422041545.23EDE304B@lists.ibiblio.org> From: Nathan Lange Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:14:39 -0700 The information provided speaks for itself. In addition, ISP's that are vigilant to stopping incoming spam to their users have already blocked listserv email from idiblio listservs, including PBS. David can provide more info since he was able to fix the problem the last time it happened for about a month. From my calculation, not getting any email is worse than getting all of it slowly. Nathan At 08:46 PM 4/21/2017, you wrote: >Just as a side note to "3 % of Americans still use dial-up". _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From plantsman@comcast.net Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <20170422042321.EB5161CC2@lists.ibiblio.org> From: Nathan Lange Subject: About a change of host... Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:23:18 -0700 The information provided speaks for itself. In addition, ISP's that are vigilant to stopping incoming spam to their users have already blocked listserv email in the past from dated idiblio listservs, including PBS. David can provide more info since he was able to fix the problem the last time it happened for about a month. I hope he can fix it the next time it happens. From my calculation, not getting any email is worse than getting all of it very slowly. Nathan At 08:46 PM 4/21/2017, you wrote: >Just as a side note to "3 % of Americans still use dial-up". _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Sat, 22 Apr 2017 10:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: PBS list technical matters Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 09:52:48 -0500 Dear David and all, I have remained silent about the pros and cons of moving the host, but after reading the posts and vaguely related comments I suggest we continue to keep our truust in David Piling to make the best decision. Personally I am not sure I'd like to have a flood of images to accompany messages. I suspect their value to inform in most cases. So I think that a mve to David’s preference is a GOOD IDEA. Just make it painless. Jim W. Still getting PBS messages to my PBS mail box and personal email about 50- 50. On Apr 19, 2017, at 6:26 AM, David Pilling wrote: In the last week Ibiblio (our host) has changed the addresses attached to messages. If you have set up folder routing your messages may now be appearing somewhere other than their usual place. There has been some internal chat about moving the list to Google groups. The plus side is the possibility of including photos, retaining an email interface and avoiding the spam blocks [1] which are becoming more frequent. If anyone thinks a move to Google groups is a bad idea, let me know. Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <801944390.8462254.1492891674107@mail.yahoo.com> From: Khanh Duong via pbs Subject: Please could you unsubscribe me from PBS? MANY THANKS! Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Please could you unsubscribe me from PBS?: khanhvduong@yahoo.comMANY THANKS! Regards 'Google Groups' and Images, if I may say, please everyone be careful regards blindly trusting any online sites, including with words and/or images, since not everyone is 'nice' and 'honest', viewers, users, and potentially/theoretically those storing images (etc)... and such images may be viewable by many, and could be used and searched for decades to come, and perhaps held against your name and/or that of others, for life (and more?). For example, it might be preferable to make sure that PBS images do not contain images of people in them and instead 'only' focus on plants/animals. For example, if there is any risk of litigation regards your use of plants, for example, perhaps you might not wish to post such information/images that could be used in ways that are other than nice/supportive/useful. All the Best! _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From marycilentodesign@gmail.com Sun, 23 Apr 2017 06:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mary Cilento Subject: (no subject) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:42:01 +1000 Please unsubscribe me thanks, Mary Cilento _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From gardenbetter@gmail.com Sun, 23 Apr 2017 07:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: Cyclamen Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:32:10 -0400 Here in Jerusalem, Isreal the Cyclaem do great in heavy soil (not at all sandy) called Terra rossa. It is wetherd limesrone (alkaline) but we also have typical Med climate of rainy winter and dry summer. Not much organic matter.Our native Cyclamen are mostly persicum but some rotundifolium, etc. I think dry summer may be the key for you. Good luck, Shmuel Get a signature like this: Click here! On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Rodger Whitlock wrote: > On 17-04-03 06:16 PM, Kathleen Sayce wrote: > > I garden in sand (fine beach sand, acidic, and well drained) and have >> cyclamen all over my yard (yay! ants). Never water the plants. I also >> do not amend the soil. They are wet all winter due to rain, growing >> in soil that drains quickly, and dry all summer. >> > > Fresh water beach or salt water beach? It makes a difference because the > latter will have endless shell fragments in it, providing an equally > endless supply of calcium — which is good for cyclamen. > > > Cyclamen species need relatively wet winters and relatively dry summers to > do well. > > In contrast to Kathleen's garden, mine is on a delicious clay in a low > spot vis a vis the surrounding terrain; I get standing water in the lowest > part many winters. But it's dry in summer. For many years I considered the > ideal site for cyclamen is in the duff that forms under conifers, heavily > laced with lime to cut the acidity. Miracle of miracles, my clay is NOT > sticky when wet, unlike the blue marine clay so common in the Pacific NW. > > And the ants have performed miracles: the driveway to my house runs the > length of a 300' lane, and there is Cyclamen repandum all through it now. > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From arnold140@verizon.net Sun, 23 Apr 2017 22:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: <14123303.936241.1493000655567.JavaMail.root@tvweb133032.mailsrvcs.net> From: arnold140@verizon.net Subject: Bulb Garden Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:24:15 -0500 (CDT) The next Bulb Garden, Vol. 15 no. 1 is in the mail. It has articles on Geissorhiza, Erythroniums of Vancouver and one by Paul J. Oliver Smith on "Who needs Orchids". On the address label is a membership expiration date. We've had some issues with the interface between PayPal and the PBS hosing service. If your date is erroneous please contact me at arnold140@verizon.net or Jane McGary at janemcgary@earthlink.net. We will work it out. Thanks for your continued support. Arnold Treasurer, PBS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From tiede@pacbell.net Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <007e01d2bcae$b1885900$14990b00$@net> From: "Bracey Tiede" Subject: Bulb Garden Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:55:58 -0700 And thank you for all you do for the members of this mailing list. Cheers, Bracey San Jose CA -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@mailman1.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of arnold140@verizon.net Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 7:24 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org; janemcgary@earthlink.net Subject: [pbs] Bulb Garden The next Bulb Garden, Vol. 15 no. 1 is in the mail. It has articles on Geissorhiza, Erythroniums of Vancouver and one by Paul J. Oliver Smith on "Who needs Orchids". On the address label is a membership expiration date. We've had some issues with the interface between PayPal and the PBS hosing service. If your date is erroneous please contact me at arnold140@verizon.net or Jane McGary at janemcgary@earthlink.net. We will work it out. Thanks for your continued support. Arnold Treasurer, PBS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: Free Trilliums in Indiana (with a catch) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:12:28 +0100 Hi, The PBS got the following message: "We are redigging our pond and there are rugelli and recuvatum trilliums that will be buried along with a few jack in the pulpits. Let me know if there is someone who would like these ,can plant these and lives near me in Indiana. Hunter" The email address is: hunteryogrt@icloud.com I'd normally keep such information confidential, however this email address does not work - so if you live in Indiana and know a bloke called Hunter Yogurt you're in luck. Otherwise a bit frustrating. Moral: always check your email address when filling in forms on line. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jgglatt@gmail.com Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Judy Glattstein Subject: Hacking Apart a Very Pot Bound Clivia Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:38:01 -0400 A friend who will be moving is clearing out the 20 ft by 20 ft sun room. I collected his orange clivia late last week because yesterday was my garden club's divide and multiply workshop, geared towards garden perennials that will be sold at the early July arts festival. The clivia would be a high class addition to our usual offerings. I have never divided a clivia. First effort was getting the dang thing out of its pot. I seriously thought I'd have to take a hatchet to the pot but eventually out it came. If there wasn't any soil left in the root mass it wouldn't surprise me. After fruitless twiddling and plucking at the tight root mass (reminded me of when one of the cats takes a skein of yarn and runs through the house, under chairs, up and down stairs, then saunters off leaving me with the tangle) I dumped it in a bucket of water to soak for a while. The roots loosened but not sufficiently to do much good. Casting a prayer to the gods of chlorophyll I went at it with a serrated knife. Ended up with three very nice divisions, all with goodly amount of roots. Two good divisions with minimal amount of roots. And one division with lots of roots and a growing point but no leaves. Took everything home and let them sit in the garage overnight, then potted them up this morning in a very gritty mix. Did not water. Delivered one of the best divisions back to the original owner. Will keep one for myself. Will tend the others until early July and the plant sale. Fingers crossed for their survival and recovery. This is no doubt the wrong time of year to do this sort of plant butchery but it was when the occasion presented itself. Be gentle while scolding me, but any suggestions / advice on followup care would be welcome. Judy in New Jersey, where it is raining _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From mikerumm@gmail.com Tue, 25 Apr 2017 22:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mike Rummerfield Subject: Hacking Apart a Very Pot Bound Clivia Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:03:50 -0700 RE: dividing Clivia Judy, Actually, now (just after blooming) is a good time to divide Clivia. Here's a link to a Clivia specialist's guide to dividing Clivia: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/info/DividingClivia.html There should be some happy new owners of Clivia due to your efforts. Good luck, Mike On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Judy Glattstein wrote: > A friend who will be moving is clearing out the 20 ft by 20 ft sun room. I > collected his orange clivia late last week because yesterday was my garden > club's divide and multiply workshop, geared towards garden perennials that > will be sold at the early July arts festival. The clivia would be a high > class addition to our usual offerings. > > I have never divided a clivia. First effort was getting the dang thing out > of its pot. I seriously thought I'd have to take a hatchet to the pot but > eventually out it came. If there wasn't any soil left in the root mass it > wouldn't surprise me. After fruitless twiddling and plucking at the tight > root mass (reminded me of when one of the cats takes a skein of yarn and > runs through the house, under chairs, up and down stairs, then saunters off > leaving me with the tangle) I dumped it in a bucket of water to soak for a > while. > > The roots loosened but not sufficiently to do much good. Casting a prayer > to the gods of chlorophyll I went at it with a serrated knife. Ended up > with three very nice divisions, all with goodly amount of roots. Two good > divisions with minimal amount of roots. And one division with lots of roots > and a growing point but no leaves. > > Took everything home and let them sit in the garage overnight, then potted > them up this morning in a very gritty mix. Did not water. > > Delivered one of the best divisions back to the original owner. Will keep > one for myself. Will tend the others until early July and the plant sale. > Fingers crossed for their survival and recovery. > > This is no doubt the wrong time of year to do this sort of plant butchery > but it was when the occasion presented itself. > > Be gentle while scolding me, but any suggestions / advice on followup care > would be welcome. > > Judy in New Jersey, where it is raining > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Wed, 26 Apr 2017 02:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane Mcgary Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:Purchasing rare flowers for photo shoot in NYC Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:29:08 +0200 The following message came via the PBS website. If anyone near New York City has a grand greenhouse and the urge to help Anna, write to her directly. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Apache > Date: April 26, 2017 at 4:10:53 AM GMT+2 > To: > Subject: PBS website contact:Purchasing rare flowers for photo shoot in NYC > Reply-To: Anna Surbatovich > > > This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. > > Hi Jane, > > I am a floral designer in NYC, and I have a photo shoot on May 3 and 4 with the photographer Erwan Frotin for which I need to purchase a number of unusual flowers that are not commonly sold as cut flowers. I know you are bulb enthusiasts, and not all of these are bulbs, but I figure my best chance of sourcing these is to reach out to private growers and collectors, and so I was wondering if you or anyone you know might have anything on the list below, or if you had anything else in bloom in your collection, of which you would be willing to sell me a few cut branches or flowers. > > This list gives you the feeling of what I am looking for--but I am very much open to any other suggestions. As I said, for this project I need cut blooms, not just foliage or living plants. I have a reasonable budget for this project. > > Ixia— any species, but especially ixia viridiflora > Aeonium arboreum - yellow flowers > Aeonium arboreum “Zwartkop” - black flowers > Eucomis comosa > Erythrina lysistemon - flowering tree branches > Yucca gloriosa > Couroupita guianensis - flowering branches > Grevillea banksii > Eucrosia - any species > Bryophyllum fedtschenkoi > Any flowering Puya, particularly Puya coerulea > Any flowering Aechmea bromeliad, particularly Aechmea “Blue Rain” > > This is not a comprehensive list, and I would be open to ANYTHING you might have! > > Thank you, > Anna > 973-489-2992 > www.annasurbatovich.com > > -- > Pacific Bulb Society web site > email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Wed, 26 Apr 2017 07:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <000c01d2be86$216f67d0$644e3770$@yahoo.com> From: Froggie via pbs Subject: Trachyandra saltii Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 07:10:41 -0500 Hi- I have seed from Trachyandra saltii. I am going to sow in the autumn - but does this need some sort of stratification? In the past, I have attempted growing and nothing ever germinates. Thanks. FM _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From gardenbetter@gmail.com Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: Hacking Apart a Very Pot Bound Clivia Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:24:03 -0400 Hey this is great! I have a Clivia to divide and is great to see now is the time. Here in Israel, it is a winter rain - summer dry climate. Should Clivias be kept dry in summer? The link Mike sent seems to indicate so... All the best, Shmuel Get a signature like this: Click here! On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:03 PM, Mike Rummerfield wrote: > RE: dividing Clivia > > Judy, > Actually, now (just after blooming) is a good time to divide Clivia. > Here's a link to a Clivia specialist's guide to dividing Clivia: > http://www.shieldsgardens.com/info/DividingClivia.html > > There should be some happy new owners of Clivia due to your efforts. > Good luck, > Mike > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Judy Glattstein > wrote: > > > A friend who will be moving is clearing out the 20 ft by 20 ft sun room. > I > > collected his orange clivia late last week because yesterday was my > garden > > club's divide and multiply workshop, geared towards garden perennials > that > > will be sold at the early July arts festival. The clivia would be a high > > class addition to our usual offerings. > > > > I have never divided a clivia. First effort was getting the dang thing > out > > of its pot. I seriously thought I'd have to take a hatchet to the pot but > > eventually out it came. If there wasn't any soil left in the root mass it > > wouldn't surprise me. After fruitless twiddling and plucking at the tight > > root mass (reminded me of when one of the cats takes a skein of yarn and > > runs through the house, under chairs, up and down stairs, then saunters > off > > leaving me with the tangle) I dumped it in a bucket of water to soak for > a > > while. > > > > The roots loosened but not sufficiently to do much good. Casting a prayer > > to the gods of chlorophyll I went at it with a serrated knife. Ended up > > with three very nice divisions, all with goodly amount of roots. Two good > > divisions with minimal amount of roots. And one division with lots of > roots > > and a growing point but no leaves. > > > > Took everything home and let them sit in the garage overnight, then > potted > > them up this morning in a very gritty mix. Did not water. > > > > Delivered one of the best divisions back to the original owner. Will keep > > one for myself. Will tend the others until early July and the plant sale. > > Fingers crossed for their survival and recovery. > > > > This is no doubt the wrong time of year to do this sort of plant butchery > > but it was when the occasion presented itself. > > > > Be gentle while scolding me, but any suggestions / advice on followup > care > > would be welcome. > > > > Judy in New Jersey, where it is raining > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From gardenbetter@gmail.com Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: repotting Achimenes Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:47:13 -0400 I bought three 4 inch pots of different Achimenes in an almost dormant condition last fall. They sat outside in my zone 9b winter and I thought they were dead, but see lots and lots of small rhizomes. I would like to repot - and know not much about them. How many in a pot and what size pot? Do they like acid soil? What else should I know. I googled a lot but got very little detailed info. Even the gesneriads.ca site did not mention pot size, how far apart the rhizomes, how deep.... Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Shmuel _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From robertpries@embarqmail.com Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <1948141141.99020886.1493248309637.JavaMail.root@embarqmail.com> From: "Robert Pries " Subject: repotting Achimenes Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Shmuel: I am NOT an achimenes expert, but I have grown 20-30 pots each summer for that last 3 years. I find that the varieties vary considerably in size some produce 30 inch plants others only 5 inches. Most all benefit from having several rhizomes in a pot each about an inch or two apart,otherwise they do not fill the pot. They multiply freely and next year you should have many times the number. They seem best divided while dormant and before growth begins. The start of growth may be almost threadlike underground. As far as PH is concerned, mine were on the acid side but probably close to neutral since I use a commercial potting soil. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shmuel Silinsky" To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:47:13 PM Subject: [pbs] repotting Achimenes I bought three 4 inch pots of different Achimenes in an almost dormant condition last fall. They sat outside in my zone 9b winter and I thought they were dead, but see lots and lots of small rhizomes. I would like to repot - and know not much about them. How many in a pot and what size pot? Do they like acid soil? What else should I know. I googled a lot but got very little detailed info. Even the gesneriads.ca site did not mention pot size, how far apart the rhizomes, how deep.... Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Shmuel _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki -- Bob Pries Zone 7a Roxboro, NC (336)597-8805 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <65254AE8-E62F-4364-9A78-08F26F21CCA0@islandnet.com> From: Diane Whitehead Subject: Hacking Apart a Very Pot Bound Clivia Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:13:28 -0700 All Clivia species, except for one recently-discovered one, are native to the Eastern part of South Africa, which has summer rainfall. Heavy rain, often. I was on a beach once and was warned away by the police because of the danger of a flash flood coming down a nearby river. Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada On 2017-04-26, at 12:24 PM, Shmuel Silinsky wrote: > > Here in Israel, it is a winter rain - summer dry climate. Should Clivias > be kept dry in summer? The link Mike sent seems to indicate so... > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:17:08 -0700 Message-Id: <1d19d.2e6012c7.4632886d@aol.com> From: Pamela Zivney via pbs Subject: Papaver Peoniflorum Flower Seeds SX Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:34:05 -0400 Pamela Zivney Turner Oregon Zone 8 I have several packages of mixed fresh seed from 2017 harvest of 7 colors of Papaver Peoniflorum, Double Peony Poppy. I would like to trade for seed that I can plant in zone 8 Turner Oregon. I will plant the seeds for my own use and also to sell for our kitty rescue Preciouspawspoppies.org. for kitty food, meds and shelter. If anyone would like to trade or gift our rescue with seed to sell please let me know. As always, 100% goes to the Kitties and we feed over 40 every day. We have helped to spay and neuter 182 as of April 2017. Our story is in the Statesman's Journal Newspaper in Salem Oregon here: http://www.preciouspawspoppies.org/kitties-blog/our-story-in-the-statesman-journal and in their archives it shows the pictures of the Red Heirloom Poppies. I look forward to hearing from you folks in PBS but trade or not, I am happy to be here for mostly, I simply love to garden and be with like minded people! Im not great at navigating this site please bare with me. Pamela Zivney Zone 8 Turner OR _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From gardenbetter@gmail.com Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: Hacking Apart a Very Pot Bound Clivia Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 04:36:01 -0400 Excellent, Diane, That is the kind of info I need. Nothing like an informed decision. So it looks like summer wet - winter not totally dry. Thanks so much! Shmuel _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From gardenbetter@gmail.com Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: General PBS Etiquette Questtion Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 05:04:24 -0400 I am unfortunately not a member of PBS (financial priorities etc), but am in a situation (I live in Israel) where many interesting seeds come my way, but native and cultivated. Right now my Veltheimia bracteosa and Gladiolus carneus are setting lots of seed. Also Israel natives Belvallia flexuosa (on persons weed may be another's treasure) and a personal delight - Ornithogallum montanum. I am happy to share things and like trading. As a non-member I don't have rights to use the BX, but is it acceptable to write to the list and say I have these things available? May I send things to the BX for list use? I don't want to just throw them out. I have been contacted privately by some members and have done some very satisfactory trades, especially for some of the rarer Israeli plants, though it may take time. What should I do? Also, wonderfully, there is a lot of action on this list. Is it best to reply with a thank you for a good answer, or does that just clog up the list and people would just understand that their info is appreciated. Of course in a reply, I hit "reply" - "CTRL A" and Delete before startng my message... Thanks for a wonderful list and a great onliine community. Shmuel Silinsky Jerusalem, Israel Get a signature like this: Click here! _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Thu, 27 Apr 2017 06:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <5ab39522-f74c-748c-cc0c-bac3bef7e565@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: General PBS Etiquette Questtion Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 12:37:16 +0100 Hi Shmuel, On 27/04/2017 10:04, Shmuel Silinsky wrote: > non-member I don't have rights to use the BX, but is it acceptable to write > to the list and say I have these things available? Yes. > May I send things to the > BX for list use? Yes. If you are giving seed away there's no problem. The problems arise when people want to sell things. Information is acceptable and advertising is not. Being told once that something is available is OK, a frequent post of the latest offers is not. As to thanking people, often done by private email. One person commenting on a good reply to the list can be reasonable, gets tedious when lots start saying "me too!". That's my understanding, the PBS board have the last word. The posting guidelines are here: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Guide -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From dkramb@badbear.com Thu, 27 Apr 2017 07:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb Subject: General PBS Etiquette Questtion Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:14:47 -0400 I am not a member of PBS, but I send donations to the BX anyway. I got sooooo many lovely things from PBS BX in the past that I want to share with them when I have something neat to offer. Soon I'll donate seeds of Ennealophus euryandrus, Trimezia steyermarkii, and rhizomes of Seemannia nematanthodes. :-) I'm just waiting for the last seed pods to ripen. Dennis in Cincinnati On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:04 AM, Shmuel Silinsky wrote: > I am unfortunately not a member of PBS (financial priorities etc), but am > in a situation (I live in Israel) where many interesting seeds come my way, > but native and cultivated. Right now my Veltheimia bracteosa and Gladiolus > carneus are setting lots of seed. Also Israel natives Belvallia flexuosa > (on persons weed may be another's treasure) and a personal delight - > Ornithogallum montanum. I am happy to share things and like trading. As a > non-member I don't have rights to use the BX, but is it acceptable to write > to the list and say I have these things available? May I send things to the > BX for list use? I don't want to just throw them out. I have been contacted > privately by some members and have done some very satisfactory trades, > especially for some of the rarer Israeli plants, though it may take time. > What should I do? > > Also, wonderfully, there is a lot of action on this list. Is it best to > reply with a thank you for a good answer, or does that just clog up the > list and people would just understand that their info is appreciated. Of > course in a reply, I hit "reply" - "CTRL A" and Delete before startng my > message... > > Thanks for a wonderful list and a great onliine community. > > Shmuel Silinsky > Jerusalem, Israel > Get a signature like this: Click here! > lzZXN0YW1wLmNvbS9lbWFpbC1pbnN0YWxsP3dzX25jaWQ9NjcyMjk0MDA4Jn > V0bV9zb3VyY2U9ZXh0ZW5zaW9uJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbX > BhaWduPXByb21vXzU3MzI1Njg1NDg3Njk3OTIiLCAiZSI6ICI1NzMyNTY4NT > Q4NzY5NzkyIn0=&u=916336198365226> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From rdevries@comcast.net Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Rimmer deVries Subject: Bellevalia flexuosa vs. B romana Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:23:04 -0400 What is the difference to distinguish Bellevalia flexuosa from B. romana Without any locality info. Thank you Rimmer _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: repotting Achimenes Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:23:49 -0700 If they're already sprouting, it's probably not a good idea to repot now. It would be difficult to do so without damaging the extremely fine gesneriad roots. It won't harm them to skip repotting. Park Seed in South Carolina used to sell them, and had detailed cultivation information in their paper catalog. Achimines do best in a warm humid summer with warm humid nights. They don't like extreme heat. They like bright shade to dappled sun, and have been grown as hanging basket plants on Southern porches for years. Park used to have a strong Southern flavor. Most gesneriads strongly prefer loose acidic and highly organic potting mixes, like perlite mixed with screened peat moss. Heavy soil mixes usually lead to rapid rotting. Park recommended 3 Achimines rhizomes to a 4"-6" / 10-15cm pot, more for larger pots. Plant them horizontally 1" / 2.5cm deep. Keep just moist until they sprout, to prevent rot, then increase watering so they never dry. Feed heavily when in active growth. In fall foliage starts to yellow. Let them go dry so the tops die. They should remain warm during dormancy. Some people store them dry in the pot. In this case they unpot, divide and repot just before the time for growing. Others unpot as soon as dry, then divide, and store rhizomes dry and warm in paper bags with some dry medium. These gardeners repot just before the growing season. Leo Martin Zone ? Phoenix Arizona USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From xerantheum@gmail.com Thu, 27 Apr 2017 11:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Donating seeds to the PBS Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 06:51:39 -1000 Shmuel asked an important question about whether a non-member could donate seeds. One of the PBS's most active and important contributions comes from sharing seeds that it receives from various sources with members. We encourage anyone who has extra seeds to share them, and if you had ever been a participant of the BX/SX, you know how high demand seeds are. If you are not a member, please consider join and take a advantage of the program. Remember that when you send in seeds, you get a BX credit (equivalent to postage) to be used in future exchanges. Best, Nhu Nguyen President, PBS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com Fri, 28 Apr 2017 04:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <9415aa1a-4198-1cf3-b0be-8c503ec112e1@btinternet.com> From: youngs Subject: IRG 88 April 2017 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:55:28 +0100 International Rock Gardener (IRG) 88- April 2017 is online now with articles from Wim Boens from Belgium on double forms of Ficaria verna; Krzysztof Ciesielski from Poland on a new galanthus and Zdeněk Zvolánek introduces another Czech star in advance of the Third International Czech Rock Garden Conference which opens in early May. Download via this link http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2017Apr271493318724IRG88.pdf _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: <22b5f.7b97f7a7.4634cf10@aol.com> From: Pamela Zivney via pbs Subject: Donating seeds to the PBS Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:00:00 -0400 Hello, I understand that we are able to contact folks for trade through their email. Is that correct. I would be interested in trading seeds with this individual. I am not sure how to go about it through PBS. Still learning, Pamela Zivney zone 8 Turner Oregon _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From anitaroselle@gmail.com Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: From: Anita Roselle Subject: IRG 88 April 2017 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:28:44 -0400 I am a relatively new member of the society and have forgotten what address I use to post on the forum. Jane sent it to me a number of months ago but I can not find where it is on my old emails. Would someone send it to me as I have something I wish to post. I am anitaroselle@gmail.com and thank you very much, this time it is going in my address book imediately. I appreciate this a lot, Anita Roselle anitaroselle@gmail.com On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 5:55 AM, youngs wrote: > International Rock Gardener (IRG) 88- April 2017 is online now with > articles from Wim Boens from Belgium on double forms of Ficaria verna; > > Krzysztof Ciesielski from Poland on a new galanthus and Zdeněk Zvolánek > introduces another Czech star in advance of the > > Third International Czech Rock Garden Conference which opens in early May. > > Download via this link http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/lo > gdir/2017Apr271493318724IRG88.pdf > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: Donating seeds to the PBS Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:29:58 +0100 Hi Pamela. On 28/04/2017 18:00, Pamela Zivney via pbs wrote: > Hello, I understand that we are able to contact folks for trade through > their email. Is that correct. I would be interested in trading seeds with this > individual. I am not sure how to go about it through PBS. If anyone offers seed to list members, yes you can email them direct. How you do that depends on your email program, usually the senders email address is displayed in addition to the list address. Just copy and paste it, or click on the appropriate thing. The list address (not what you want in this case) is pbs@lists.ibiblio.org these days it also appears as pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: <97e83020-4f9b-9d78-0e99-b6460f54651a@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: IRG 88 April 2017 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 18:30:39 +0100 Hi, On 28/04/2017 18:28, Anita Roselle wrote: > I am a relatively new member of the society and have forgotten what address > I use to post on the forum. pbs@lists.ibiblio.org -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: youngs Subject: IRG 88 April 2017 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 19:45:53 +0100 Anita, David, not sure what relevance this has to IRG notice. No log-in needed to download IRG each month - all issues available from this page : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/index.php?log=international I think Anita's question is for PBS contributions? M.Young _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From anitaroselle@gmail.com Fri, 28 Apr 2017 15:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Anita Roselle Subject: Oxalis repotting Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:13:12 -0400 I have had a pot of an oxalis for over 50 years. I aquirred it in Mass. when I lived there, now that I am in North Carolina I have found that many places here it is hardy. It is a three part leaf of a light green that closes up in the evening, the flower is a nice pink with a number of blossoms on each stem. I have used it as a house plant all these years as it blooms almost all year. I want to repot it as it is not as vigorous as it used to be and has moss all over the soil, in the past I would just unpot it and replant the tubers in new soil. I did not wait for dormancy as it did not go into it on its own and I did not know that it should. My question, after all that explination, is: What is the best way to repot it so I do not lose it. Do I dry it off so it goes dormant or do I just repot it in fresh soil? What kind of soil does it do best in? Your help will be appreciated, Anita Roselle _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From greg@alpacamanagement.com Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Greg Ruckert Subject: WARNING - Fake Chen Yi Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 07:39:35 +0930 This is a new scam to me, haven't ordered from Chen Yi since the late 1990s. This was an email from "June Shang". It clearly wasn't just sent to me. Goodday, Just a quick remember , My name is Mrs.June Shang from China. I am the account officer /nursery agent for Mrs Chen Yi of Chen Yi Nursery, China. I have the instruction of Mrs. Chen Yi to send your plants ordered months ago and packaged in a box. With maximum confidentiality strictly between us, I discover that the Spanish custom are suspecting the content of the box.This is the reason , why i am writing this urgent mail to you. I wish to honestly full disclosure to you that the box sent through EurMove doesn't contain plants as order by you , but it contains money totaling $8.2million in bundle of 100 dollar notes arranged in columns and rows and registered as "gift" with a diplomatic seal. This money belongs to a late Chinese Farmer ,who wishes to invest outside china and if this money is not transfared within weeks from today ,the Government will seize the money.Since the owner is dead and nobody has come to claim the money since last year.I am the only person who knows about this money.I wishes to invest the money in your country and i felt you will be able to handle this issue for us on account of our past business trust and relationship with China. Note, i have all the documents to this money as its legally acquired . I shall be offering you 30% of the total sum, 10% will cover for all logistics and expenses while i take 60% . Meanwhile, an agreement will cover this sharing capital to give you all assurances.I will not cheat you nor betray you. And assurance that you will not run away with my money. Please bear in mind that Eurmove does not know the contents of the consignment, and you must not declare or disclose to them or anybody the true contents for security reasons. Also note that whatever expenses/fee that you might/may incur during the course of this transaction will be refunded back to you, also you must maintain secrecy.DO NOT DISCLOSE TO MRS CHEN YI ,I will loss my job and she doesn't know about the money. Kindly provide me with these detail , upon receive of these detail i shall furnish you with the company details in Spain to contact and request for the delivery of the box. Mobile Direct Number: Re-confirm Delivery Address: You are protected during and after this transaction for the trust i have in you. This is more lucrative and you have nothing to be afraid of, we are both into this business and make it strictly secrecy and private between us strictly.After this transcation, you shall have capital to expand your business. I hope i can trust you and you will not betray me or run away with the money? Revert back to me asap. June Shang --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban Subject: Achimenes Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 00:13:00 +0200 Hello Shmuel, Achimenes are easy plants to grow and very rewarding because they flower for a long time. They do not mind being potted on even if they are in full growth. But obviously it is best to take the rhizomes out of the old compost and repot into fresh compost while they are still dormant. Skipping repotting does not harm them but due to overcrowding the quality of the plant is inferior. I put 10 strong rhizomes into a 20cm pot, planting 2-5 cm deep. If the rhizomes have sprouted before repotting the shoot easily breaks off but even such a rhizome will sprout later. Any good potting compost with good humus content, good aeration and drainage will do. What they cannot take is sudden drought during growth, they are ideal on automatic irrigation. They can take more sun than one thinks but in Israel not full sun and not too hot a place. Frequent but weak fertilizing is very beneficial, too much can burn them. Dormancy totally dry in the pot in the compost otherwise the rhizomes may dry out too much the plants will show you when they are ready to go dormant. Some time ago I wrote an article for the Swedish Gesneriad Society about my way of growing Achimenes, I can let you have it Have fun with them Uli Von meinem iPad gesendet _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Sun, 30 Apr 2017 11:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary Subject: Topic of the week Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:36:51 -0700 At our PBS board meeting this morning it was observed that this forum has been less active lately, and we'd like to encourage more participation. One way to do that is to revive a feature called "Topic of the Week." Much discussion and improvement to the PBS wiki grew out of this. I'll start the ball rolling with a post, but perhaps one or more of you would like to step forward and offer topics in subsequent weeks. Please do! There must be things you've been observing and thinking about in your bulb collection that would encourage others to join in. We don't have to limit this to one topic a week, either. Several threads can run simultaneously, because our membership is so diverse. Some will respond to topics on South African bulbs, for instance, while others may want to talk more about species hardy in temperate or even cold climates. When I look through the "Favorite bulbs" entries in our membership database, I see everything from Alstroemeria to Zantedeschia. Just now someone joined who specializes in tuberous Begonia. We have amaryllid fanatics and species lily growers. So think about a topic you'd like to start, and send your post, please! Jane McGary Membership Coordinator, PBS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Sun, 30 Apr 2017 11:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary Subject: Surprising survivors Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:57:07 -0700 This is my offering for a topic of the week. Hope to hear from many others! This is the time of year when those of us who garden in climates that experience winter frost take stock of what has survived the trials of winter. In western Oregon we've had a winter that was slightly colder than normal, with several periods of snow cover (one of about one week), and very heavy and prolonged rainfall. This was a real test of plants known to be marginally hardy here. I don't have a heated greenhouse, though I move a few potted plants under lights in the garage in winter. My bulb house is never more than a degree or two above ambient temperature, since it has a roof but no solid sides. I also moved many bulbs into the open garden last summer. Some of them are mentioned in books (mostly books published in the UK) as requiring frost-free cultivation. Nevertheless, some marginal species are now in growth and even in flower. I didn't mean to plant Ornithogalum reverchonii (from the French Riviera) in the open, but I mistook its bulbs for Ornithogalum narbonense. Yet O. reverchonii is opening its crystalline white flowers now; the foliage, which is winter-growing, is a little bedraggled but definitely alive. Amaryllis belladonna turned to mush, but new leaves have emerged -- I may never see any flowers but it's not giving up. The shining yellow flowers of Anemone palmata (from Portugal) light up both the rock garden and the bulb lawn. Even the Crinum plants given to me by another PBS member last year are putting out new growth; I did mulch them heavily but thought they were gone for good. Most everything in the bulb house survived (low temperature, 18 F), except for some Babiana. Another African species, Oxalis obtusa, is all too lively -- I even spotted one that got into the open garden, fortunately back in the shrubbery where it can't do much damage. The lovely North African Asphodelus acaulis dutifully produced its peach-colored flowers in early March, a little later than usual. I think the survival of marginal plants under a roof is aided by the fact that their foliage is dry; on the other hand, they got no snow cover. I suspect that the many species I'm trying in turf also enjoy a little extra protection in winter, when the grass here is in active growth. So far the only big Alstroemeria outdoors, A. angustifolia, has not made an appearance, but in the bulb house the little species Alstroemeria hookeri came through fine, despite being in growth during the cold snaps. I'm also happy to see Alstroemeria patagonica there, but it is more cold-adapted, though not really easy to maintain. The first Calochortus here is always Calochortus uniflorus, and it's opening now. Others are in bud. Most of them flower rather later than other bulbs. I have sometimes thought that native bulbs from the Pacific Coast of North America are particularly well adapted to surviving extra-cold winters. Have you had any pleasant surprises like these? Let us know. Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org Sun, 30 Apr 2017 11:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: <000001d2c1dd$50494d00$f0dbe700$@yahoo.com> From: Froggie via pbs Subject: Board Meeting Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:12:20 -0500 Hi- What was the verdict on images and/or possibly changing to Google? Thx, FM _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From xerantheum@gmail.com Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Board Meeting Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 08:39:38 -1000 On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Froggie via pbs wrote: > What was the verdict on images and/or possibly changing to Google? > The board is in overall supportive of platform update, but which platform and how it is done depends on many factors that must be considered. Ultimately, the Electronic Media team (PBS List, Wiki, and website) will need to make a decision on how to best move forward. Best, Nhu _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwickham@sbcglobal.net Sun, 30 Apr 2017 16:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <1973447631.1731704.1493593827245@mail.yahoo.com> From: John Wickham Subject: Board Opportunities Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 23:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Every two years, the Board approves officers to serve for the following two-year term. President Nguyen has appointed me to serve as chair of the Nominations Committee and I'm looking for other members of the Society to serve on the Committee with me. Our job is to prepare and recommend to the Board a slate of officers to manage the programs and affairs of the Society. The Board will approve the slate by November. That gives us about five months to form the committee (which is approved by the Board), accept nominations, interview candidates, and decide on the slate. If you are interested in serving on the Nominations Committee, please contact me at jwickham@sbcglobal.net. In addition, if you are interested in serving on the Board, there are five positions to be filled: President, Vice President, Treasurer, Secretary, and Membership Coordinator. Here are descriptions of the positions for your consideration. Not looking for candidates just yet, but I wanted to remind everyone of the position descriptions. New terms start at the beginning of 2018. A. The President shallpreside at all meetings of the association, act as the chief executive officer,prepare agendas, and work with other board members to ensure that everything isworking smoothly and all jobs are on schedule. The president may also sign checksin emergencies. B. The Vice-Presidentshall assist the President and act in the absence of the President.C. The Secretary shalltake minutes at all meetings, be responsible for correspondence as directed bythe President and the Board, and maintain business files for the organizationand a list of all policies approved by the Board.D. The Treasurer shallbe responsible for the financial records of the organization. Thisresponsibility includes but is not limited to writing expense checks, depositingfunds received, collecting fees owed, maintaining the PayPal account,maintaining a check register and preparing (or causing to be prepared) any taxor organizational forms required by the state or federal government. Thetreasurer will submit to the Board a year to date treasurer's report prior toeach Board meeting. The treasurer shall prepare and submit an annual budget tothe Board of Directors, using input from the other officers and board memberswhere needed.E. The Membership Coordinator shall record newmember’s applications, confirm with new members that all information isaccurate, and communicate this information to other members of the board. Themembership coordinator will keep a database of member information for theorganization, send out renewal notices, notify the officers when a membershiphas lapsed, and assist in the publication of a membership directory. If you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks, John WickhamLos Angeles, CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From tylus.seklos@gmail.com Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: The Silent Seed Subject: Board Opportunities Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:17:58 -0400 Please remove me from this list. Vendors and customers - feel free to keep in touch. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 7:10 PM, John Wickham wrote: > Every two years, the Board approves officers to serve for the following > two-year term. President Nguyen has appointed me to serve as chair of the > Nominations Committee and I'm looking for other members of the Society to > serve on the Committee with me. Our job is to prepare and recommend to the > Board a slate of officers to manage the programs and affairs of the > Society. The Board will approve the slate by November. That gives us about > five months to form the committee (which is approved by the Board), accept > nominations, interview candidates, and decide on the slate. > > If you are interested in serving on the Nominations Committee, please > contact me at jwickham@sbcglobal.net. > In addition, if you are interested in serving on the Board, there are five > positions to be filled: President, Vice President, Treasurer, Secretary, > and Membership Coordinator. Here are descriptions of the positions for your > consideration. Not looking for candidates just yet, but I wanted to remind > everyone of the position descriptions. New terms start at the beginning of > 2018. > > A. The President shallpreside at all meetings of the association, act as > the chief executive officer,prepare agendas, and work with other board > members to ensure that everything isworking smoothly and all jobs are on > schedule. The president may also sign checksin emergencies. B. The > Vice-Presidentshall assist the President and act in the absence of the > President.C. The Secretary shalltake minutes at all meetings, be > responsible for correspondence as directed bythe President and the Board, > and maintain business files for the organizationand a list of all policies > approved by the Board.D. The Treasurer shallbe responsible for the > financial records of the organization. Thisresponsibility includes but is > not limited to writing expense checks, depositingfunds received, collecting > fees owed, maintaining the PayPal account,maintaining a check register and > preparing (or causing to be prepared) any taxor organizational forms > required by the state or federal government. Thetreasurer will submit to > the Board a year to date treasurer's report prior toeach Board meeting. The > treasurer shall prepare and submit an annual budget tothe Board of > Directors, using input from the other officers and board memberswhere > needed.E. The Membership Coordinator shall record newmember’s applications, > confirm with new members that all information isaccurate, and communicate > this information to other members of the board. Themembership coordinator > will keep a database of member information for theorganization, send out > renewal notices, notify the officers when a membershiphas lapsed, and > assist in the publication of a membership directory. > If you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks, > John WickhamLos Angeles, CA > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@mailman1.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki