From pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Sun, 01 Jan 2017 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: "William R.P. Welch via pbs" Subject: Time to renew Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 11:13:41 -0800 Hi Jane, Do I need to renew? How much $ mailed to who? Best wishes, Bill the Bulb Baron (William R.P. Welch) website: www.billthebulbbaron.com/availability.htm William R.P. Welch, 1031 Cayuga Street, Apt B, Santa Cruz, CA 95062, USA (831) 236-8397 > On Dec 30, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Jane McGary wrote: > > Hello all! > > January is the month when those of us who are paying members renew our membership by paying dues via the website (or by check to treasurer Arnold Trachtenberg, if you prefer). Notice that there is a button to click when you pay to indicate that this is a renewal, not a new membership. And of course, those who enjoy this list and would like to benefit from the BX and Bulb Garden newsletter should consider becoming members too. > > IF YOU JOINED RECENTLY: Anyone who joined after September 30, 2016, is already paid up for 2017 and does not have to renew until 2018. This "extra quarter" reflects the mailing schedule for the Bulb Garden, our largest single expense. > > If you're not sure if you need to renew for 2017, please write to me directly (do not reply to this list). > > Thanks to everyone for your continuing support of PBS! > > Jane McGary > > Membership Coordinator > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Sun, 01 Jan 2017 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <1595b798620-def-2ad3c@webprd-m93.mail.aol.com> From: Ernie DeMarie via pbs Subject: Biological control of Lilioceris lilii (Scarlet lily beetle) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 14:20:08 -0500 As far as I am aware, there arent any biological controls that are widespread yet in the northeast. The wiki link has some promising possibilities but I have never seen a parasitized lily beetle, and they are abundant here in lower NY. While it may not be registered officially as a control, I find that imidicloprid applied to the shoots shortly after emerging and maybe once more when they are fully grown is the only way to control the lily beetles. They really do a number on lilies once they find them and hand control is ineffective in my experience (or if one has a lot of lilies). I fear what they may be doing to our wild lily populations in the northeast, not that there are many wild lilies around here, the deer would also be a problem locally. Ernie DeMarie Z7/6border NY -----Original Message----- From: Louis Richard To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Jardins de Doris ; Sylvain Ross Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2017 10:36 am Subject: [pbs] Biological control of Lilioceris lilii (Scarlet lily beetle) Hi guys, First of all, I would like to thank you for letting me (us) join this so interesting forum and email exchange! Do anyone of you have any tips and experiences about biological control of the Scarlet lily beetle beside the Wiki's informations? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_lily_beetle Many thanks, Louis Richard http://www.jardinsdedoris.ca/index.html https://www.facebook.com/pages/Les-jardins-de-Doris/355727243167?fref=ts From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Sun, 01 Jan 2017 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <575221867.4993782.1483303710776@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Happy New Year from the garden Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 20:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Although there is not much in bloom today, I was able to put together an ample board of foliage cut from the garden to accompany those few flowers actually in bloom. Take a look here: http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2017/01/happy-new-year-from-garden.html Enjoy,Jim McKenneyMontgomery  County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From arnold140@verizon.net Sun, 01 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <8724155.541824.1483305146970.JavaMail.root@tvweb133004.mailsrvcs.net> From: arnold140@verizon.net Subject: Time to renew Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2017 15:12:26 -0600 (CST) Hi Bill et al: You can renew via check ( made out to PBS) to me at: PBS 140 Lakeview Avenue Leonia, NJ 07605 or via the PBS membership page at: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/membership.html Please indicate it's a renewal. Arnold On 01/01/17, William R.P. Welch via pbs wrote: Hi Jane, Do I need to renew? How much $ mailed to who? Best wishes, Bill the Bulb Baron (William R.P. Welch) website: www.billthebulbbaron.com/availability.htm William R.P. Welch, 1031 Cayuga Street, Apt B, Santa Cruz, CA 95062, USA (831) 236-8397 > On Dec 30, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Jane McGary wrote: > > Hello all! > > January is the month when those of us who are paying members renew our membership by paying dues via the website (or by check to treasurer Arnold Trachtenberg, if you prefer). Notice that there is a button to click when you pay to indicate that this is a renewal, not a new membership. And of course, those who enjoy this list and would like to benefit from the BX and Bulb Garden newsletter should consider becoming members too. > > IF YOU JOINED RECENTLY: Anyone who joined after September 30, 2016, is already paid up for 2017 and does not have to renew until 2018. This "extra quarter" reflects the mailing schedule for the Bulb Garden, our largest single expense. > > If you're not sure if you need to renew for 2017, please write to me directly (do not reply to this list). > > Thanks to everyone for your continuing support of PBS! > > Jane McGary > > Membership Coordinator > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From hk@icarustrading.com Sun, 01 Jan 2017 17:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: From HK Subject: Happy New Year from the garden Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2017 19:42:20 -0500 This is a very nice picture Jim. Thank you for sharing in this gray winter day. Cheers and happy new year! On Sunday, January 1, 2017, Jim McKenney wrote: > Although there is not much in bloom today, I was able to put together an > ample board of foliage cut from the garden to accompany those few flowers > actually in bloom. Take a look here: > http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2017/01/happy-new-year-from-garden.html > > Enjoy,Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 09:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <891cb63a-61ee-c3e6-2c83-09602962db88@btinternet.com> From: youngs Subject: Bulb Log and links to Erythroniums in cultivation Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:41:17 +0000 Bulb log 51 of 2016 includes Narcissus, Eranthis plus a link to download Ian Young's E- book Erythroniums in Cultivation, 278 full colour pages on Erythroniums and how we grow them here in North East Scotland http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2016Dec211482321225BULB_LOG_5116.pdf From youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 09:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <78f97397-1783-a449-023c-019e54a89ed8@btinternet.com> From: youngs Subject: Last Bulb Log of 2016 - and Index Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:52:10 +0000 The last Bulb Log of 2016 looks back at the past 12 months... see it here : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2016Dec281482926230BULB_LOG_5216.pdf plus, this section of the Scottish Rock Garden Club forum contains links to Ian Young's videos from the garden : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12953.0 lastly, thanks to the kindness of Len Rhind in Canada, an updated Index to the entire run of Bulb Logs from 2003 to 2016 is available : http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/index.pdf All freely available to all - we hope you enjoy them! M and I. Young From youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 09:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: youngs Subject: Happy New Year from the SRGC Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 17:01:06 +0000 The last IRG (International Rock Gardener) e-magazine for 2016 ( published free each month on the website of the Scottish Rock Garden Club) is online now...... IRG 84 - download it here : http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2016Dec291483029322IRG-84.pdf and includes, as well as a report on Spring flowers in Sicily and a description of a new Saxifraga, a link to a calendar of nature photos from the SRGC webmaster, Fred Carrie which you may download and print out. Happy New Year from the SRGC! From pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Mon, 02 Jan 2017 09:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <1596027cb8d-1964-2f7fd@webprd-a107.mail.aol.com> From: Steve Shaw via pbs Subject: Biological control of Lilioceris lilii (Scarlet lily beetle) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 12:08:58 -0500 The University or Rhode Island Entomology Department has developed and distributed a wasp which lays its eggs in the larvae (which do the most damage) of the Red Lily Leaf Beetle and parasitizes them. AFAIK, these have only been released in Rhode Island and Eastern Massachusetts. It will take some years for these to be more generally distributed. Steve Shaw sgshaw@aol.com Master Gardener Training Coordinator Massachusetts Master Gardener Association -----Original Message----- From: Ernie DeMarie via pbs To: pbs Cc: pelarg Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2017 3:26 am Subject: Re: [pbs] Biological control of Lilioceris lilii (Scarlet lily beetle) As far as I am aware, there arent any biological controls that are widespread yet in the northeast. The wiki link has some promising possibilities but I have never seen a parasitized lily beetle, and they are abundant here in lower NY. While it may not be registered officially as a control, I find that imidicloprid applied to the shoots shortly after emerging and maybe once more when they are fully grown is the only way to control the lily beetles. They really do a number on lilies once they find them and hand control is ineffective in my experience (or if one has a lot of lilies). I fear what they may be doing to our wild lily populations in the northeast, not that there are many wild lilies around here, the deer would also be a problem locally. Ernie DeMarie Z7/6border NY -----Original Message----- From: Louis Richard To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Jardins de Doris ; Sylvain Ross Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2017 10:36 am Subject: [pbs] Biological control of Lilioceris lilii (Scarlet lily beetle) Hi guys, First of all, I would like to thank you for letting me (us) join this so interesting forum and email exchange! Do anyone of you have any tips and experiences about biological control of the Scarlet lily beetle beside the Wiki's informations? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_lily_beetle Many thanks, Louis Richard http://www.jardinsdedoris.ca/index.html https://www.facebook.com/pages/Les-jardins-de-Doris/355727243167?fref=ts From louisrichard11@gmail.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Louis Richard Subject: Biological control of Lilioceris lilii (Scarlet lily beetle) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 12:35:35 -0500 Thank you for your answers. This kind of wasp is exactly what we would like to introduce, so I'll keep an eye on this. Have a great New Year! Louis Matane, Quebec Z 4b 2017-01-02 12:08 GMT-05:00 Steve Shaw via pbs : > The University or Rhode Island Entomology Department has developed and > distributed a wasp which lays its eggs in the larvae (which do the most > damage) of the Red Lily Leaf Beetle and parasitizes them. AFAIK, these > have only been released in Rhode Island and Eastern Massachusetts. It will > take some years for these to be more generally distributed. > > > Steve Shaw > sgshaw@aol.com > > > > Master Gardener Training Coordinator > Massachusetts Master Gardener Association > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ernie DeMarie via pbs > To: pbs > Cc: pelarg > Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2017 3:26 am > Subject: Re: [pbs] Biological control of Lilioceris lilii (Scarlet lily > beetle) > > As far as I am aware, there arent any biological controls that are > widespread yet in the northeast. The wiki link has some promising > possibilities but I have never seen a parasitized lily beetle, and they are > abundant here in lower NY. While it may not be registered officially as a > control, I find that imidicloprid applied to the shoots shortly after > emerging and maybe once more when they are fully grown is the only way to > control the lily beetles. They really do a number on lilies once they > find them and hand control is ineffective in my experience (or if one has a > lot of lilies). I fear what they may be doing to our wild lily populations > in the northeast, not that there are many wild lilies around here, the deer > would also be a problem locally. > Ernie DeMarie > Z7/6border NY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis Richard > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: Jardins de Doris ; Sylvain Ross < > sylross@globetrotter.net> > Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2017 10:36 am > Subject: [pbs] Biological control of Lilioceris lilii (Scarlet lily beetle) > > Hi guys, > > First of all, I would like to thank you for letting me (us) join this so > interesting forum and email exchange! > > Do anyone of you have any tips and experiences about biological control of > the Scarlet lily beetle beside the Wiki's informations? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlet_lily_beetle > > > Many thanks, > > > Louis Richard > > http://www.jardinsdedoris.ca/index.html > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Les-jardins-de-Doris/355727243167?fref=ts > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From jane@deskhenge.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <4522098b-b234-dcf5-54e1-31571f13b949@deskhenge.com> From: Jane Sargent Subject: flowering now in the garden Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:37:08 -0500 Well, in my Massachusetts garden, nothing at all is flowering. That´s easy. I´m in the south of Mexico for a short break, and that´s another story. The only bulbs flowering in my yard here, and this will change, are cannas and a wealth of heliconias, including some very large ones. The most spectacular plant blooming in the garden today is a shrub, Megakepasma erythrochlamys, allegedly native to the Venezuelan rain forest, but transported here (by shady means, I think) as cuttings, from the western part of Belize. They didn´t die, but they didn´t do much their first two years with me. Then they cut loose. https://naturalezatropical.blogspot.mx/2016/04/Megaskepasma-erythrochlamys.html I did not take these pictures, but they are accurate. My two specimens are about 10 ft. high, dense, shiny bright green, with unspeakably outrageous red panicles a foot long or longer. They flower for months. The ants mostly leave them alone. I have never done anything nice for them, such as pruning or fertilizing. One gets more than half a day of sun, and the other gets only small amounts. There is very little soil here covering the limestone. It´s just not a bulb. Happy 2017 to all. Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From arnold140@verizon.net Mon, 02 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <28737628.2587654.1483393484916.JavaMail.root@tvweb133095.mailsrvcs.net> From: arnold140@verizon.net Subject: flowering now in the garden Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2017 15:44:44 -0600 (CST) Love the name. mega--big skepasma--clothing erythro--ed chlamys--cloak On 01/02/17, Jane Sargent wrote: Well, in my Massachusetts garden, nothing at all is flowering. That´s easy. I´m in the south of Mexico for a short break, and that´s another story. The only bulbs flowering in my yard here, and this will change, are cannas and a wealth of heliconias, including some very large ones. The most spectacular plant blooming in the garden today is a shrub, Megakepasma erythrochlamys, allegedly native to the Venezuelan rain forest, but transported here (by shady means, I think) as cuttings, from the western part of Belize. They didn´t die, but they didn´t do much their first two years with me. Then they cut loose. https://naturalezatropical.blogspot.mx/2016/04/Megaskepasma-erythrochlamys.html I did not take these pictures, but they are accurate. My two specimens are about 10 ft. high, dense, shiny bright green, with unspeakably outrageous red panicles a foot long or longer. They flower for months. The ants mostly leave them alone. I have never done anything nice for them, such as pruning or fertilizing. One gets more than half a day of sun, and the other gets only small amounts. There is very little soil here covering the limestone. It´s just not a bulb. Happy 2017 to all. Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From mjd617@gmail.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Duckworth Subject: Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 17:03:09 -0500 Hello from Charleston, SC! I have been scouring the internet trying to find Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs for sale, with no success. Does anyone know where I might find them? Thanks! Mike From petersirises@gmail.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <586acfbd.46831c0a.675a2.b951@mx.google.com> From: Peter Taggart Subject: Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 22:10:04 +0000 I grow both blue and white, but it has rhizomes, and not bulbs. -----Original Message----- From: "Mike Duckworth" Sent: ‎02/‎01/‎2017 22:04 To: "pbs@lists.ibiblio.org" Subject: [pbs] Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! Hello from Charleston, SC! I have been scouring the internet trying to find Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs for sale, with no success. Does anyone know where I might find them? Thanks! Mike _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From mjd617@gmail.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Duckworth Subject: Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 17:29:19 -0500 Thanks for the quick reply, Peter! Would you be willing to sell me a few rhizomes...? Not sure if that is allowed via this forum; apologies if not. cheers, mike On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Peter Taggart wrote: > I grow both blue and white, but it has rhizomes, and not bulbs. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Mike Duckworth" > Sent: ‎02/‎01/‎2017 22:04 > To: "pbs@lists.ibiblio.org" > Subject: [pbs] Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! > > Hello from Charleston, SC! I have been scouring the internet trying to find > Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs for sale, with no success. Does anyone > know where I might find them? Thanks! Mike > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Mon, 02 Jan 2017 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <5de1e75a-8efb-02e6-60e8-221b6d884f91@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 15:57:40 -0800 Like other irises of its section, Iris confusa is easy to grow from seed, which is often available on the major society exchanges (NARGS, AGS). It is not hardy outdoors where I live, but I grow some of its relatives. It should do well in South Carolina. Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA On 1/2/2017 2:29 PM, Mike Duckworth wrote: > Sent: ‎02/‎01/‎2017 22:04 >> To: "pbs@lists.ibiblio.org" >> Subject: [pbs] Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! >> >> Hello from Charleston, SC! I have been scouring the internet trying to find >> Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs for sale, with no success. Does anyone >> know where I might find them? Thanks! Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jane@deskhenge.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 17:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <6635942c-f4c4-cbb4-e30d-5e5c411a40d7@deskhenge.com> From: Jane Sargent Subject: Megaskepasma erythrochlamys Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 19:32:24 -0500 See, I spelled it wrong on the last posting because I am using my little Mexican keyboard that sometimes skips the letters one types--but it has lots of symbols that are useful in Spanish. Yes, it´s a great name for a great plant. Wonder whether it would grow in San Diego. Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Mon, 02 Jan 2017 17:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 18:43:40 -0600 Dear Mike Iris confusa is available from Far Reaches Farm* on line. They are an excellent nursery and send nice plants correctly named. recommended. Jim W. and other places. Google ‘Iris confusa for sale’ for more info. On Jan 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Mike Duckworth wrote: Hello from Charleston, SC! I have been scouring the internet trying to find Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs for sale, with no success. Does anyone know where I might find them? Thanks! Mike Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From vkmyrick@pacbell.net Mon, 02 Jan 2017 18:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <438A9AC2-DB28-47EB-B447-30F3453D3556@pacbell.net> From: Jack and Val Subject: Happy New Year from the garden Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 18:10:04 -0800 Looks like a painting! Val Sonora, CA On Jan 1, 2017, at 12:48 PM, Jim McKenney wrote: > Although there is not much in bloom today, I was able to put together an ample board of foliage cut from the garden to accompany those few flowers actually in bloom. Take a look here: > http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2017/01/happy-new-year-from-garden.html > > Enjoy,Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jane@deskhenge.com Tue, 03 Jan 2017 06:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Jane Sargent Subject: thumb Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 09:10:10 -0500 I just heard, because my internet has been down, but they fixed it. Lance Warhold is excellent. I have sent him many patients in the past. I hope your thumb doesn´t hurt too much and that you will be all fixed up soon, even bionic. Love, Mean Aunt Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From mjd617@gmail.com Tue, 03 Jan 2017 07:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Duckworth Subject: Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 09:30:07 -0500 Thank you all for your replies! Far Reaches Farm only has the purple iris confusa (out of stock). I've tried many variations of Google searches for seeds or plants, with no luck.... Any other suggestions (or if you have rhizomes for sale, please let me know! Cheers, Mike On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:43 PM, James Waddick wrote: > Dear Mike > > Iris confusa is available from Far Reaches Farm* on line. They are > an excellent nursery and send nice plants correctly named. recommended. > > Jim W. > > > and other places. Google ‘Iris confusa for sale’ for more info. > > On Jan 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Mike Duckworth wrote: > > Hello from Charleston, SC! I have been scouring the internet trying to find > Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs for sale, with no success. Does anyone > know where I might find them? Thanks! Mike > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From bob.hoel@comcast.net Tue, 03 Jan 2017 07:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Robert Hoel Subject: Erythroniums in cultivation Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 09:14:22 -0600 After looking at the wonderful book created by Ian, I want some but first…..are these winter hardy in Chicago (zone 5)? I have some of the indigenous “dog tooth violets” as we call them and they seem to manage ok in the ground without any special considerations. If they survive our winters, where is a good source to add a few to my wild corner. Bob Hoel Elmhurst, IL USA 630-240-0219 (cell) Better on a bike than in a box! > On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:45 PM, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:41:17 +0000 > From: youngs > > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulb Log and links to Erythroniums in cultivation > Message-ID: <891cb63a-61ee-c3e6-2c83-09602962db88@btinternet.com > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Bulb log 51 of 2016 includes Narcissus, Eranthis plus a link to > download Ian Young's E- book Erythroniums in Cultivation, 278 full > colour pages on Erythroniums and how we grow them here in North East > Scotland > > http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2016Dec211482321225BULB_LOG_5116.pdf > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From erik@tepuidesign.com Tue, 03 Jan 2017 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Erik Van Lennep Subject: Erythroniums in cultivation Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 16:33:47 +0100 Years ago, I grew many different Erythronium spp in Vermont, zone 4 / 5 with no problems. Good mulch, and positioned so they weren't subject to the dread late January thaw which otherwise tended to heave stuff around, and they were laughing. erik SKYPE green.heart youth and elders short video http://www.linkedin.com/in/erikvanlennep <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> “I know of no restorative of heart, body, and soul more effective against hopelessness than the restoration of the Earth.” —BARRY LOPEZ” On 3 January 2017 at 16:14, Robert Hoel wrote: > After looking at the wonderful book created by Ian, I want some but > first…..are these winter hardy in Chicago (zone 5)? I have some of the > indigenous “dog tooth violets” as we call them and they seem to manage ok > in the ground without any special considerations. If they survive our > winters, where is a good source to add a few to my wild corner. > > Bob Hoel > Elmhurst, IL USA > 630-240-0219 (cell) > > Better on a bike than in a box! > > > On Jan 2, 2017, at 3:45 PM, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > > > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:41:17 +0000 > > From: youngs btinternet.com>> > > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulb Log and links to Erythroniums in cultivation > > Message-ID: <891cb63a-61ee-c3e6-2c83-09602962db88@btinternet.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > > Bulb log 51 of 2016 includes Narcissus, Eranthis plus a link to > > download Ian Young's E- book Erythroniums in Cultivation, 278 full > > colour pages on Erythroniums and how we grow them here in North East > > Scotland > > > > http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2016Dec211482321225BULB_LOG_5116.pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From anitaroselle@gmail.com Tue, 03 Jan 2017 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Anita Roselle Subject: Time to renew Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:45:12 -0500 I am looking at this on my cell, where the options to pay are, there is no option for PayPal. This is how I would like to send the $, where can I access the PayPal link? On Jan 1, 2017 4:16 PM, wrote: > Hi Bill et al: > > You can renew via check ( made out to PBS) to me at: > > PBS > 140 Lakeview Avenue > Leonia, NJ 07605 > > or via the PBS membership page at: > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/membership.html > > Please indicate it's a renewal. > > Arnold > > > On 01/01/17, William R.P. Welch via pbs wrote: > > Hi Jane, > > Do I need to renew? How much $ mailed to who? > > Best wishes, > > Bill the Bulb Baron (William R.P. Welch) > > website: www.billthebulbbaron.com/availability.htm > > William R.P. Welch, 1031 Cayuga Street, Apt B, Santa Cruz, CA 95062, USA (831) > 236-8397 > > > On Dec 30, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Jane McGary > wrote: > > > > Hello all! > > > > January is the month when those of us who are paying members renew our > membership by paying dues via the website (or by check to treasurer Arnold > Trachtenberg, if you prefer). Notice that there is a button to click when > you pay to indicate that this is a renewal, not a new membership. And of > course, those who enjoy this list and would like to benefit from the BX and > Bulb Garden newsletter should consider becoming members too. > > > > IF YOU JOINED RECENTLY: Anyone who joined after September 30, 2016, is > already paid up for 2017 and does not have to renew until 2018. This "extra > quarter" reflects the mailing schedule for the Bulb Garden, our largest > single expense. > > > > If you're not sure if you need to renew for 2017, please write to me > directly (do not reply to this list). > > > > Thanks to everyone for your continuing support of PBS! > > > > Jane McGary > > > > Membership Coordinator > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From jane@deskhenge.com Tue, 03 Jan 2017 09:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Jane Sargent Subject: another oops Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:18:15 -0500 I sent you all a message intended for my nephew, who broke his thumb skiing. I should be kept away from all keyboards, not just my flaky Mexican one. Jane From kellso@irvincentral.com Tue, 03 Jan 2017 09:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Kelly Irvin Subject: Time to renew Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:42:53 -0600 Anita, the "Buy Now" button on that page, after you have selected your residency and whether or not it's a renewal, will load a Paypal payment page. -- Mr. Kelly M. Irvin 10850 Hodge Ln Gravette, AR 72736 USA Home Phone: 479-787-9958 USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelly.m.irvin On 1/3/17 9:45 AM, Anita Roselle wrote: > I am looking at this on my cell, where the options to pay are, there is no > option for PayPal. From mjd617@gmail.com Tue, 03 Jan 2017 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Duckworth Subject: Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 14:14:36 -0500 Success! I found it on Annie's Annuals. :) On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mike Duckworth wrote: > Thank you all for your replies! Far Reaches Farm only has the purple iris > confusa (out of stock). I've tried many variations of Google searches for > seeds or plants, with no luck.... Any other suggestions (or if you have > rhizomes for sale, please let me know! Cheers, Mike > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:43 PM, James Waddick wrote: > >> Dear Mike >> >> Iris confusa is available from Far Reaches Farm* on line. They >> are an excellent nursery and send nice plants correctly named. recommended. >> >> Jim W. >> >> >> and other places. Google ‘Iris confusa for sale’ for more info. >> >> On Jan 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Mike Duckworth wrote: >> >> Hello from Charleston, SC! I have been scouring the internet trying to >> find >> Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs for sale, with no success. Does >> anyone >> know where I might find them? Thanks! Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> >> Dr. James Waddick >> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd >> Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 >> USA >> Phone 816-746-1949 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> > > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com Tue, 03 Jan 2017 12:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <74df5a3f-e021-4ef3-8ac0-ba835d46c148@btinternet.com> From: youngs Subject: Erythroniums in cultivation Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 19:34:20 +0000 Here in Aberdeen we are approx. zone 7 - but many Erys will be happy with you in zone 5 - if grown from seed they are more likely to adapt to your conditions anyway. Have fun! From jane@deskhenge.com Wed, 04 Jan 2017 07:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Jane Sargent Subject: red lily beetle Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 10:07:30 -0500 Ah, the red lily beetle...It´s a remarkably pretty beetle, but because of it, I stopped trying to grow lilies in Massachusetts. I tried removing beetles and larvae by hand, but it wasn´t effective, and the nasty poisons didn´t work either. I used to have a pretty fine lily collection. Now there are no lilies at all in the garden. Bless the entomology department of the University of Rhode Island! Perhaps I will be able to grow lilies again. Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From lmf@beautifulblooms.ab.ca Thu, 05 Jan 2017 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <7F628F71-DD09-4B40-92ED-C410917D88B0@beautifulblooms.ab.ca> From: Linda Foulis Subject: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 16:23:17 -0700 I was going through some old emails and came across the following advertisement: Do you suffer from Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome? If so, you are not alone! The best cure for this common garden ailment is ...... Made me giggle and raise a hand. Linda M Foulis Beautiful Blooms www.beautifulblooms.ab.ca North of Leslieville, AB Zone 1 or 2? Snow over my boots, thigh deep in the drifts. Had to get to my compost. From arlen.jose@verizon.net Thu, 05 Jan 2017 17:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <00c001d267b5$6f2a9990$4d7fccb0$@verizon.net> From: "Fred Biasella" Subject: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2017 19:40:08 -0500 Hi Linda, There a hippeastrum list on Garden Web and we refer to it as CHAD - Compulsive Hippeastrum Acquisition Disorder. It's highly virulent and there is no known cure. Regards, Fred -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Linda Foulis Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 6:23 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome I was going through some old emails and came across the following advertisement: Do you suffer from Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome? If so, you are not alone! The best cure for this common garden ailment is ...... Made me giggle and raise a hand. Linda M Foulis Beautiful Blooms www.beautifulblooms.ab.ca North of Leslieville, AB Zone 1 or 2? Snow over my boots, thigh deep in the drifts. Had to get to my compost. From msittner@mcn.org Sat, 07 Jan 2017 13:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <57c30a50-377b-4757-140c-07957edfcbb3@mcn.org> From: Mary Sue Ittner Subject: Walleria Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 13:07:10 -0800 When Ernie recently mentioned he had Walleria gracilis flowering, I noticed we didn't have that genus on the wiki. He was kind enough to send me information about how he grows that species and photos so I have created a wiki page. Does anyone else grow it or one of the other species? I found it very interesting learning about it. The Tecophilaeaceae family has such an interesting distribution with South American, African, and one California genus. http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Walleria From nicholas.wightman@hotmail.com Sat, 07 Jan 2017 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Nicholas Wightman Subject: Walleria Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 22:53:04 +0000 I grow both Walleria mackenziei and nutans just south of Lusaka, Zambia and they are fairly easy to cultivate in any well drained soil with ample moisture and fertilizer during the growing season and a dry dormancy of 6 to 9 months. There is another member of Tecophiliaceae here in Zambia, Cyanastrum johnsonii as well but at the moment I don't have any experience growing it but I hope to collect it from a friend soon. I can contribute photos of all three species for the wiki if you would like? Cheers, Nick ________________________________ From: pbs on behalf of Mary Sue Ittner Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 9:07:10 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: [pbs] Walleria When Ernie recently mentioned he had Walleria gracilis flowering, I noticed we didn't have that genus on the wiki. He was kind enough to send me information about how he grows that species and photos so I have created a wiki page. Does anyone else grow it or one of the other species? I found it very interesting learning about it. The Tecophilaeaceae family has such an interesting distribution with South American, African, and one California genus. http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Walleria From ds429@frontier.com Sun, 08 Jan 2017 10:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <687269742.627404.1483897870226@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 414 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 17:51:10 +0000 (UTC) Dear All,       The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at mailto:ds429@frontier.com   Include "BX 414" in the subject line.         SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 – $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE.     Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website:         If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Dell Sherk 55 W. High St. Salem, WV 26426 USA Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Dell's email address ds429@frontier.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.             I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! ALL SEEDS, SOME IN LIMITED SUPPLY From Uli Urban:   1. Habranthus robustus var. biflorus http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/old.php/2007-July/017460.html   From Arnold Trachtenberg:   2. Clivia gardenii x C. miniata, yellow  http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13939.msg348441#msg348441 http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11227.msg290033#msg290033     From Cynthia Mueller:   3. Rhodophiala bifida, pink, very nice vigorous strain that enjoys alkaline soil and can withstand winter cold to Zone 7/6 4. Rhodophiala bifida, larger, redder than usual R. bifida 5. Rhodophiala bifida, typical x #4 6. Zephyranthes jonesii 7. Zephyranthes smallii 8. Zephyranthes pulchella 9. Cooperia drummondii, flowers in mid March (in Cynthia’s Texas) Thank you, Uli, Arnold, and Cynthia !! Best wishes, Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From stnalpsoel@gmail.com Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Leo Martin Subject: Walleria Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 11:42:51 -0700 > Does anyone else grow [Walleria gracilis] or one of the other > species? I bought some Walleria gracilis seed from Silverhill in 2000, I believe. It has only been available once since then from Silverhill, I think. Five of about ten seeds sprouted that year. In future years there were 0-2 sprouts in the pot. Sprout location varied from year to year, so I imagined different tubers were growing or sleeping, as they saw fit. They never grew well. Maybe they got too cold? I have occasional frost. One late summer, about 6 years after planting, and after two seasons with no sprouts, I unpotted them. There were three slightly shriveled, but alive, tubers. I repotted into a very sandy mix. I have not seen sprouts since. I still water the pot every winter. Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, Schroedinger's cat, and what all. Leo Martin Zone 9? Phoenix Arizona USA From ds429@frontier.com Sun, 08 Jan 2017 13:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <1746681685.700522.1483908977812@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: BX instructions Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 20:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Please, all, re-read the instuctions that preface each BX offering. You must include your name and address with each order. Also, if you change your address, please inform both me (Dell) and Membership Director, Jane McGary. Thanks for your help, Happy New Year! Dell Dell Sherk, PBS BX From cynthiasbulbs@hotmail.com Sun, 08 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Cynthia Mueller Subject: Walleria Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 21:44:36 +0000 We can have a bit of fun, through changing a well known joke about Mrs. Schroedinger saying to her husband, "Ervin, vott are you doink to zat cat -- it looks haff dead!" We can ask you what else were you doing to your tubers... Cynthia W Mueller On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Leo Martin wrote: >> Does anyone else grow [Walleria gracilis] or one of the other >> species? > > I bought some Walleria gracilis seed from Silverhill in 2000, I believe. It > has only been available once since then from Silverhill, I think. Five of > about ten seeds sprouted that year. In future years there were 0-2 sprouts > in the pot. Sprout location varied from year to year, so I imagined > different tubers were growing or sleeping, as they saw fit. They never grew > well. Maybe they got too cold? I have occasional frost. > > One late summer, about 6 years after planting, and after two seasons with > no sprouts, I unpotted them. There were three slightly shriveled, but > alive, tubers. I repotted into a very sandy mix. > > I have not seen sprouts since. I still water the pot every winter. > Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, Schroedinger's cat, and what all. > > Leo Martin > Zone 9? > Phoenix Arizona USA > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ds429@frontier.com Sun, 08 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <450667692.717067.1483912025487@mail.yahoo.com> From: ds429 Subject: Walleria Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 21:47:05 +0000 (UTC) Oh, droll Cynthia! -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 1/8/17, Cynthia Mueller wrote: Subject: Re: [pbs] Walleria To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Date: Sunday, January 8, 2017, 4:44 PM We can have a bit of fun, through changing a well known joke about Mrs. Schroedinger saying to her husband, "Ervin, vott are you doink to zat cat -- it looks haff dead!" We can ask you what else were you doing to your tubers... Cynthia W Mueller On Jan 8, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Leo Martin wrote: >> Does anyone else grow [Walleria gracilis] or one of the other >> species? > > I bought some Walleria gracilis seed from Silverhill in 2000, I believe. It > has only been available once since then from Silverhill, I think. Five of > about ten seeds sprouted that year. In future years there were 0-2 sprouts > in the pot. Sprout location varied from year to year, so I imagined > different tubers were growing or sleeping, as they saw fit. They never grew > well. Maybe they got too cold? I have occasional frost. > > One late summer, about 6 years after planting, and after two seasons with > no sprouts, I unpotted them. There were three slightly shriveled, but > alive, tubers. I repotted into a very sandy mix. > > I have not seen sprouts since. I still water the pot every winter. > Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, Schroedinger's cat, and what all. > > Leo Martin > Zone 9? > Phoenix Arizona USA > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From clcox@ucdavis.edu Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <5EDD6D84-A48A-4E9C-A683-4F1AB744D3F9@ucdavis.edu> From: Chad Cox Subject: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:37:33 -0800 How ironic that my name is Chad. And I've got CHAD bad. In fact I am a new member and one of the reasons I joined was to find more resources to treat the symptoms of my CHAD, since I am unable to find any of the ones that I really want. Do any of you fellow CHAD sufferers have any advice or info that might help me? Oh please help! Chad in Elverta CA Sent from my iPhone Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > On Jan 8, 2017, at 9:51 AM, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: List-Archive: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Time to renew (Anita Roselle) > 2. another oops (Jane Sargent) > 3. Re: Time to renew (Kelly Irvin) > 4. Re: Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! > (Mike Duckworth) > 5. Erythroniums in cultivation (youngs) > 6. red lily beetle (Jane Sargent) > 7. Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome (Linda Foulis) > 8. Re: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome (Fred Biasella) > 9. Walleria (Mary Sue Ittner) > 10. Re: Walleria (Nicholas Wightman) > 11. Pacific Bulb Society BX 414 (ds429) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:45:12 -0500 > From: Anita Roselle > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Time to renew > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I am looking at this on my cell, where the options to pay are, there is no > option for PayPal. This is how I would like to send the $, where can I > access the PayPal link? > >> On Jan 1, 2017 4:16 PM, wrote: >> >> Hi Bill et al: >> >> You can renew via check ( made out to PBS) to me at: >> >> PBS >> 140 Lakeview Avenue >> Leonia, NJ 07605 >> >> or via the PBS membership page at: >> >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/membership.html >> >> Please indicate it's a renewal. >> >> Arnold >> >> >> On 01/01/17, William R.P. Welch via pbs wrote: >> >> Hi Jane, >> >> Do I need to renew? How much $ mailed to who? >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Bill the Bulb Baron (William R.P. Welch) >> >> website: www.billthebulbbaron.com/availability.htm >> >> William R.P. Welch, 1031 Cayuga Street, Apt B, Santa Cruz, CA 95062, USA (831) >> 236-8397 >> >>> On Dec 30, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Jane McGary >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all! >>> >>> January is the month when those of us who are paying members renew our >> membership by paying dues via the website (or by check to treasurer Arnold >> Trachtenberg, if you prefer). Notice that there is a button to click when >> you pay to indicate that this is a renewal, not a new membership. And of >> course, those who enjoy this list and would like to benefit from the BX and >> Bulb Garden newsletter should consider becoming members too. >>> >>> IF YOU JOINED RECENTLY: Anyone who joined after September 30, 2016, is >> already paid up for 2017 and does not have to renew until 2018. This "extra >> quarter" reflects the mailing schedule for the Bulb Garden, our largest >> single expense. >>> >>> If you're not sure if you need to renew for 2017, please write to me >> directly (do not reply to this list). >>> >>> Thanks to everyone for your continuing support of PBS! >>> >>> Jane McGary >>> >>> Membership Coordinator >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:18:15 -0500 > From: Jane Sargent > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: [pbs] another oops > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I sent you all a message intended for my nephew, who broke his thumb > skiing. I should be kept away from all keyboards, not just my flaky > Mexican one. > > Jane > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:42:53 -0600 > From: Kelly Irvin > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Time to renew > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Anita, the "Buy Now" button on that page, after you have selected your > residency and whether or not it's a renewal, will load a Paypal > payment page. > > -- > Mr. Kelly M. Irvin > 10850 Hodge Ln > Gravette, AR 72736 > USA > > Home Phone: 479-787-9958 > > USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b > > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelly.m.irvin > >> On 1/3/17 9:45 AM, Anita Roselle wrote: >> I am looking at this on my cell, where the options to pay are, there is no >> option for PayPal. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 14:14:36 -0500 > From: Mike Duckworth > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Looking for Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs! > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Success! I found it on Annie's Annuals. :) > >> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Mike Duckworth wrote: >> >> Thank you all for your replies! Far Reaches Farm only has the purple iris >> confusa (out of stock). I've tried many variations of Google searches for >> seeds or plants, with no luck.... Any other suggestions (or if you have >> rhizomes for sale, please let me know! Cheers, Mike >> >>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:43 PM, James Waddick wrote: >>> >>> Dear Mike >>> >>> Iris confusa is available from Far Reaches Farm* on line. They >>> are an excellent nursery and send nice plants correctly named. recommended. >>> >>> Jim W. >>> >>> >>> and other places. Google ?Iris confusa for sale? for more info. >>> >>> On Jan 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Mike Duckworth wrote: >>> >>> Hello from Charleston, SC! I have been scouring the internet trying to >>> find >>> Iris Confusa (white flowering) bulbs for sale, with no success. Does >>> anyone >>> know where I might find them? Thanks! Mike >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >>> >>> Dr. James Waddick >>> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd >>> Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 >>> USA >>> Phone 816-746-1949 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >>> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 19:34:20 +0000 > From: youngs > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: [pbs] Erythroniums in cultivation > Message-ID: <74df5a3f-e021-4ef3-8ac0-ba835d46c148@btinternet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Here in Aberdeen we are approx. zone 7 - but many Erys will be happy > with you in zone 5 - > if grown from seed they are more likely to adapt to your conditions > anyway. Have fun! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 10:07:30 -0500 > From: Jane Sargent > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: [pbs] red lily beetle > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Ah, the red lily beetle...It?s a remarkably pretty beetle, but because > of it, I stopped trying to grow lilies in Massachusetts. I tried > removing beetles and larvae by hand, but it wasn?t effective, and the > nasty poisons didn?t work either. I used to have a pretty fine lily > collection. Now there are no lilies at all in the garden. > > Bless the entomology department of the University of Rhode Island! > Perhaps I will be able to grow lilies again. > > Jane > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 16:23:17 -0700 > From: Linda Foulis > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome > Message-ID: > <7F628F71-DD09-4B40-92ED-C410917D88B0@beautifulblooms.ab.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I was going through some old emails and came across the following advertisement: > > Do you suffer from Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome? If so, you are not alone! The best cure for this common garden ailment is ...... > > Made me giggle and raise a hand. > > Linda M Foulis > Beautiful Blooms > www.beautifulblooms.ab.ca > > North of Leslieville, AB > Zone 1 or 2? > Snow over my boots, thigh deep in the drifts. Had to get to my compost. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2017 19:40:08 -0500 > From: "Fred Biasella" > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" > Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome > Message-ID: <00c001d267b5$6f2a9990$4d7fccb0$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Linda, > > There a hippeastrum list on Garden Web and we refer to it as CHAD - > Compulsive Hippeastrum Acquisition Disorder. It's highly virulent and there > is no known cure. > > Regards, > Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Linda Foulis > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 6:23 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome > > I was going through some old emails and came across the following > advertisement: > > Do you suffer from Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome? If so, you are not > alone! The best cure for this common garden ailment is ...... > > Made me giggle and raise a hand. > > Linda M Foulis > Beautiful Blooms > www.beautifulblooms.ab.ca > > North of Leslieville, AB > Zone 1 or 2? > Snow over my boots, thigh deep in the drifts. Had to get to my compost. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 13:07:10 -0800 > From: Mary Sue Ittner > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Walleria > Message-ID: <57c30a50-377b-4757-140c-07957edfcbb3@mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > When Ernie recently mentioned he had Walleria gracilis flowering, I > noticed we didn't have that genus on the wiki. He was kind enough to > send me information about how he grows that species and photos so I have > created a wiki page. Does anyone else grow it or one of the other > species? I found it very interesting learning about it. The > Tecophilaeaceae family has such an interesting distribution with South > American, African, and one California genus. > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Walleria > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 22:53:04 +0000 > From: Nicholas Wightman > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Walleria > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I grow both Walleria mackenziei and nutans just south of Lusaka, Zambia and they are fairly easy to cultivate in any well drained soil with ample moisture and fertilizer during the growing season and a dry dormancy of 6 to 9 months. There is another member of Tecophiliaceae here in Zambia, Cyanastrum johnsonii as well but at the moment I don't have any experience growing it but I hope to collect it from a friend soon. I can contribute photos of all three species for the wiki if you would like? > > Cheers, > > Nick > ________________________________ > From: pbs on behalf of Mary Sue Ittner > Sent: Saturday, January 7, 2017 9:07:10 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Walleria > > When Ernie recently mentioned he had Walleria gracilis flowering, I > noticed we didn't have that genus on the wiki. He was kind enough to > send me information about how he grows that species and photos so I have > created a wiki page. Does anyone else grow it or one of the other > species? I found it very interesting learning about it. The > Tecophilaeaceae family has such an interesting distribution with South > American, African, and one California genus. > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Walleria > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 17:51:10 +0000 (UTC) > From: ds429 > To: pbs > Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 414 > Message-ID: <687269742.627404.1483897870226@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dear All, > > ? ? ? The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. > If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at > > mailto:ds429@frontier.com > ? > Include "BX 414" in the subject line. > > > ? ? ? ? SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 ? $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE. > > ? ? Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: > > ? ? ? ? If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > > Dell Sherk > 55 W. High St. > Salem, WV 26426 > USA > > Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. > > ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > > Dell's email address > ds429@frontier.com > > Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. > IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > > ALL SEEDS, SOME IN LIMITED SUPPLY > >> From Uli Urban: > ? > 1. Habranthus robustus var. biflorus http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/old.php/2007-July/017460.html > > ? >> From Arnold Trachtenberg: > ? > 2. Clivia gardenii x C. miniata, yellow? http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13939.msg348441#msg348441 > > http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11227.msg290033#msg290033 > > ? > ? >> From Cynthia Mueller: > ? > 3. Rhodophiala bifida, pink, very nice vigorous strain that enjoys alkaline soil and can withstand winter cold to Zone 7/6 > 4. Rhodophiala bifida, larger, redder than usual R. bifida > 5. Rhodophiala bifida, typical x #4 > 6. Zephyranthes jonesii > 7. Zephyranthes smallii > 8. Zephyranthes pulchella > 9. Cooperia drummondii, flowers in mid March (in Cynthia?s Texas) > > > Thank you, Uli, Arnold, and Cynthia !! > > Best wishes, > Dell > > Dell Sherk, PBS BX > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 168, Issue 4 > *********************************** From xerantheum@gmail.com Sun, 08 Jan 2017 19:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:Purchasing seed or specimem Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 16:57:54 -1000 Hi all, Can anyone help Brett find seeds of Iris palaestina? Nhu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Apache Date: Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:33 PM Subject: PBS website contact:Purchasing seed or specimem To: xerantheum@gmail.com This is a message from the PBS website for nhunguyen. Hello I am interested in purchasing seed or seedlings of Iris Palaestina. Are you able to provide either? Regards Brett -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org From xerantheum@gmail.com Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Fwd: Israel-Jordan tour Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 17:23:35 -1000 Hi everyone, Ori Fragman-Sapir is leading a fieldtrip in March through Israel and Jordan. Sounds like a really great opportunity to see wonderful geophytes in the wild. If you are interested and would like more information, please contact him (fragmansapir@gmail.com). Best, Nhu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kristin Yanker-Hansen Date: Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 10:47 AM Subject: FW: Israel-Jordan tour flyer To: Nhu Nguyen Hi Nhu, I hope you are loving Hawaii. We just had Ori Fragman-Sapir speak at the Cal Hort Society in November. He is offering a field trip in March through Israel and Jordan. Any chance you could post this on the Pacific Bulb Society Web Site? Kristin From petersirises@gmail.com Sun, 08 Jan 2017 23:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <58733857.66bec20a.62e9a.ef34@mx.google.com> From: Peter Taggart Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:Purchasing seed or specimem Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 07:14:08 +0000 Try Seeds Of Peace, Oron Peri. -----Original Message----- From: "Nhu Nguyen" Sent: ‎09/‎01/‎2017 02:58 To: "Pacific Bulb Society" ; "Brett" Subject: [pbs] Fwd: PBS website contact:Purchasing seed or specimem Hi all, Can anyone help Brett find seeds of Iris palaestina? Nhu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Apache Date: Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 2:33 PM Subject: PBS website contact:Purchasing seed or specimem To: xerantheum@gmail.com This is a message from the PBS website for nhunguyen. Hello I am interested in purchasing seed or seedlings of Iris Palaestina. Are you able to provide either? Regards Brett -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From arlen.jose@verizon.net Mon, 09 Jan 2017 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <011c01d26ad2$2eafdf40$8c0f9dc0$@verizon.net> From: "Fred Biasella" Subject: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 18:43:28 -0500 Hi Chad, I'm afraid the only advice I can give you is...give in. There's no cure, why not take advantage and enjoy yourself? You know you're in big trouble when you start hybridizing so you can come up with that "perfect one" and all you have to show is a house bursting at the seams with seedlings...sigh Fred Cambridge (Boston) MA USDA Zone 6b -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Chad Cox Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:38 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome How ironic that my name is Chad. And I've got CHAD bad. In fact I am a new member and one of the reasons I joined was to find more resources to treat the symptoms of my CHAD, since I am unable to find any of the ones that I really want. Do any of you fellow CHAD sufferers have any advice or info that might help me? Oh please help! Chad in Elverta CA From pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <1469487441.685542.1484091270700@mail.yahoo.com> From: Rick Buell via pbs Subject: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Chad--My sympathies! What are the symptoms of your condition? Which plants seem to call to you? Rick Buell New London, CT zone 6 ------------------------------------------- On Mon, 1/9/17, Fred Biasella wrote: Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" Date: Monday, January 9, 2017, 6:43 PM Hi Chad, I'm afraid the only advice I can give you is...give in. There's no cure, why not take advantage and enjoy yourself? You know you're in big trouble when you start hybridizing so you can come up with that "perfect one" and all you have to show is a house bursting at the seams with seedlings...sigh Fred Cambridge (Boston) MA USDA Zone 6b -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Chad Cox Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:38 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome How ironic that my name is Chad. And I've got CHAD bad. In fact I am a new member and one of the reasons I joined was to find more resources to treat the symptoms of my CHAD, since I am unable to find any of the ones that I really want. Do any of you fellow CHAD sufferers have any advice or info that might help me? Oh please help! Chad in Elverta CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From 64kkmjr@gmail.com Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> Subject: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:40:16 -0800 Fred, I know what you're saying as I've been there. While I have approximately 30 species I probably have several hundred hybrids. Good luck for anyone with CHAD. Karl Church Dinuba CA On Jan 9, 2017 3:43 PM, "Fred Biasella" wrote: Hi Chad, I'm afraid the only advice I can give you is...give in. There's no cure, why not take advantage and enjoy yourself? You know you're in big trouble when you start hybridizing so you can come up with that "perfect one" and all you have to show is a house bursting at the seams with seedlings...sigh Fred Cambridge (Boston) MA USDA Zone 6b -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Chad Cox Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:38 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome How ironic that my name is Chad. And I've got CHAD bad. In fact I am a new member and one of the reasons I joined was to find more resources to treat the symptoms of my CHAD, since I am unable to find any of the ones that I really want. Do any of you fellow CHAD sufferers have any advice or info that might help me? Oh please help! Chad in Elverta CA From mikerumm@gmail.com Tue, 10 Jan 2017 19:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Rummerfield Subject: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:25:36 -0800 I, also, can sympathize with those afflicted with Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome. I do not grow (many) Hippeastrum, but I do grow another Amaryllid, namely Clivia. Clivia growers can be subject to a related syndrome - Clivia Fever. I have been afflicted myself. From my experience I extend a note of warning to PBS menmbers: I went to my doctor (a specialist in Cliviology) with a fever. He diagnosed it as Clivia Fever and said there is no known cure for it. It can lead to fits of delirium; to heightened states of grandiosity when you are convinced, absolutely convinced, that you have just hybridized the greatest Clivia of all time; to sudden outbursts of uncontrollable, ecstatic dancing (especially at 'first bloom'); to the incessant checking in on your plants a multitude of times during the day, and in advanced cases, during the night, ("Let's see... it's been *at least* 3 or 4 minutes since I last checked this one... I think I see.... well, maybe not...wait... do I detect the tiniest bit of growth?... OH, JOY!!!") and to uncontrolled hoarding, when, beyond all reason, you collect and grow more Clivia than you have space, energy, or time for. This can lead to further complications - consult your doctor. It is contagious and I fear there are others in the PBS, beside myself, who suffer from (or rejoice in) this malady, knowingly or not. Though to be fair to all, I suspect I was blighted with Clivia Fever before I joined PBS. I repeat, there is no known cure. Be forewarned! Should you develop a case of Clivia Fever (almost inevitable) do not expect sympathy or anything other than bewilderment and clucks from friends and family. You will only be understood by other Clivia enthusiasts, with whom you can commiserate. Take heart! . To your health! Regards, Anonymous (for obvious reasons) *NOTE -- A possible cure for Clivia Fever has just recently been found. The cure is 'more Clivia'. It is not yet quite understood how this works, but is promising news. In the meantime, to be on the safe side, it is recommended to get your annual Clivia Fever vaccine - see your local Cliviologist. On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> wrote: > Fred, I know what you're saying as I've been there. While I have > approximately 30 species I probably have several hundred hybrids. Good luck > for anyone with CHAD. > > Karl Church > Dinuba CA > On Jan 9, 2017 3:43 PM, "Fred Biasella" wrote: > > Hi Chad, > > I'm afraid the only advice I can give you is...give in. There's no cure, > why > not take advantage and enjoy yourself? You know you're in big trouble when > you start hybridizing so you can come up with that "perfect one" and all > you > have to show is a house bursting at the seams with seedlings...sigh > > Fred > Cambridge (Boston) MA > USDA Zone 6b > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Chad Cox > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:38 PM > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome > > How ironic that my name is Chad. And I've got CHAD bad. In fact I am a new > member and one of the reasons I joined was to find more resources to treat > the symptoms of my CHAD, since I am unable to find any of the ones that I > really want. Do any of you fellow CHAD sufferers have any advice or info > that might help me? Oh please help! > > Chad in Elverta CA > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From jshields46074@gmail.com Wed, 11 Jan 2017 08:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: James SHIELDS Subject: Hippeastrum Acquisition Syndrome Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:54:42 -0500 The nice thing about Clivia Fever is that one greenhouse (mine, actually) can do a good job of holding lots of Hippeastrum in addition to lots of Clivia. The Hippeastrum extend the bloom season into April and May, after the Clivia blooms have petered out. Jim On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Mike Rummerfield wrote: > I, also, can sympathize with those afflicted with Hippeastrum Acquisition > Syndrome. I do not grow (many) Hippeastrum, but I do grow another > Amaryllid, namely Clivia. Clivia growers can be subject to a related > syndrome - Clivia Fever. I have been afflicted myself. > ... -- James Shields jshields46074@gmail.com P.O. Box 92 Westfield, IN 46074 U.S.A. From gardenbetter@gmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 02:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: Fwd: Israel-Jordan tour Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:25:30 -0500 Just a note that Dr Ori Fragman Sapir is the Chief Scientist at the Jerusalem Botanical Garden and his special interest is geophytes. I know him personally. He really knows his stuff and would be a great person to tour with. Shmuel Silinsky Get a signature like this: Click here! On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Nhu Nguyen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Ori Fragman-Sapir is leading a fieldtrip in March through Israel and > Jordan. Sounds like a really great opportunity to see wonderful geophytes > in the wild. If you are interested and would like more information, please > contact him (fragmansapir@gmail.com). > > Best, > Nhu > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kristin Yanker-Hansen > Date: Sat, Dec 24, 2016 at 10:47 AM > Subject: FW: Israel-Jordan tour flyer > To: Nhu Nguyen > > > Hi Nhu, > > > > I hope you are loving Hawaii. We just had Ori Fragman-Sapir speak at the > Cal Hort Society in November. He is offering a field trip in March through > Israel and Jordan. Any chance you could post this on the Pacific Bulb > Society Web Site? > > > > Kristin > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From gardenbetter@gmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 02:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: Ledebouria cooperi Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:35:11 -0500 I live in Jersalem (USDA zone 9b) and my Ledebouria cooperi in a pot have gone dormant (sort of). This is the first winter I have had them and am a bit at a loss. Do I let them dry out completely? Also shoul d the bulbs be buried completely of exposed like L socialis? Duh. I just read the PBS page on Ledebouria http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Ledebouria and it pretty much answered my questions. One swhould always look there first. :) Shmuel Get a signature like this: Click here! From gardenbetter@gmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 02:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: Dividing Clivia miniata Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:41:51 -0500 I have a pretty crowded 5 gal bucket of Clivia miniata. When is best to divide it? Now? After flowering? I would like flowers this year as I missed them last year. (I was too late with the Measurol and they ended up snail food.) Shmuel Get a signature like this: Click here! From jgglatt@gmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 10:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Judy Glattstein Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:05:55 -0500 Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric state of Vermont. So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! Fahrenheit Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 degrees fahrenheit a week later From markemazer@gmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mark Mazer Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:57:06 -0500 The minimum wage in Iran is one fifth of Vermont's. The minimum wage in Spain is half, and in Afghanistan 'tis one sixteenth. How would green mountain state growers ever expect to compete since labor is the significant factor in the cost of saffron production? The proposition simply doesn't make much economic sense unless there is sufficiently great value added downstream. No more crocus here. Rodents ate the entire collection within months of our arrival. Then they feasted on the babiana, and then sparaxis. Mark Mazer Hertford, NC On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Judy Glattstein wrote: > Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's > involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric state > of Vermont. > > So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or > domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! > Fahrenheit > Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping > from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 degrees > fahrenheit a week later > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From clcox@ucdavis.edu Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <04762E74-865B-4996-B535-11DB611B6C05@ucdavis.edu> From: Chad Cox Subject: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:52:52 -0800 Thanks all for commiserating with me. Fred I too have a house full of plants(some seedlings) but haven't experimented with hybridization yet; my wife is already angry so I may have to wait a bit on that plus I'm still waiting for one of my hippeastrum to bloom. I'm hoping that will happen in Spring. Rick I would have to say that the top of my list would be angustifolium, closely followed by teyucuarense, brasilianum, morelianum, and argentinum to start. The truth is I am fascinated by many of the rare species in this genus and the fact that many are practically unheard of in cultivation sparks my interest even more since I love challenges. Mike thank you for calling to my attention that I suffer from yet another condition, Clivia fever. I don't think I have it as badly as you but I definitely have it. I've been looking for a nice red one for a long time. Jim yes I have both hippeastrum and clivia in my greenhouse too, but was unable to limit myself to just those two and had to go get some Phadranassa and Brunsvigia and Crinum and.... so unfortunately I'm running out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-) Chad in Elverta CA Sent from my iPhone Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. Sent from my iPhone Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. From jshields46074@gmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: James SHIELDS Subject: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:09:26 -0500 Chad, On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Chad Cox wrote: > ......... > Jim yes I have both hippeastrum and clivia in my greenhouse too, but > was unable to limit myself to just those two and had to go get some > Phadranassa and Brunsvigia and Crinum and.... so unfortunately I'm running > out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-) > ......... The obvious solution to our dilemma is to add more greenhouses. I am up to four now. Jim -- James Shields jshields46074@gmail.com P.O. Box 92 Westfield, IN 46074 U.S.A. From teck11@embarqmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <000401d26ddb$6fb4f000$4f1ed000$@embarqmail.com> From: "Tim Eck" Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:27:17 -0500 Harvesting (and separation of the pistil from the bloom) is the only work-intensive part and both are very amenable to 'robomation' using hue-based image processing. Tim Eck > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Mazer > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 1:57 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > > The minimum wage in Iran is one fifth of Vermont's. The minimum wage in > Spain is half, and in Afghanistan 'tis one sixteenth. How would green > mountain state growers ever expect to compete since labor is the significant > factor in the cost of saffron production? The proposition simply doesn't make > much economic sense unless there is sufficiently great value added > downstream. > > No more crocus here. Rodents ate the entire collection within months of our > arrival. Then they feasted on the babiana, and then sparaxis. > > Mark Mazer > Hertford, NC > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Judy Glattstein wrote: > > > Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: > > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's > > involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric > > state of Vermont. > > > > So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or > > domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! > > Fahrenheit > > Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping > > from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 > > degrees fahrenheit a week later > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From mikerumm@gmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Rummerfield Subject: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:47:09 -0800 " .... so unfortunately I'm running out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-)" Chad, Yes - but such a wonderful crazy. Maybe time to put yourself into irretrievable debt (and marital disharmony) to add on to that greenhouse? Adding on to the house might be pushing it a bit. 🙃 I hope your Hippeastrum blooms this Spring. Best of luck, Mike On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Chad Cox wrote: > Thanks all for commiserating with me. > Fred I too have a house full of plants(some seedlings) but haven't > experimented with hybridization yet; my wife is already angry so I may have > to wait a bit on that plus I'm still waiting for one of my hippeastrum to > bloom. I'm hoping that will happen in Spring. > Rick I would have to say that the top of my list would be angustifolium, > closely followed by teyucuarense, brasilianum, morelianum, and argentinum > to start. The truth is I am fascinated by many of the rare species in this > genus and the fact that many are practically unheard of in cultivation > sparks my interest even more since I love challenges. > Mike thank you for calling to my attention that I suffer from yet > another condition, Clivia fever. I don't think I have it as badly as you > but I definitely have it. I've been looking for a nice red one for a long > time. > Jim yes I have both hippeastrum and clivia in my greenhouse too, but > was unable to limit myself to just those two and had to go get some > Phadranassa and Brunsvigia and Crinum and.... so unfortunately I'm running > out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-) > > Chad in Elverta CA > > > > Sent from my iPhone > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > > > Sent from my iPhone > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From hk@icarustrading.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: From HK Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:30:40 -0500 Hue base image processing? Wow. On Friday, January 13, 2017, Tim Eck wrote: > Harvesting (and separation of the pistil from the bloom) is the only > work-intensive part and both are very amenable to 'robomation' using > hue-based image processing. > > Tim Eck > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org ] On > Behalf Of Mark Mazer > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 1:57 PM > > To: Pacific Bulb Society > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > > > > The minimum wage in Iran is one fifth of Vermont's. The minimum wage in > > Spain is half, and in Afghanistan 'tis one sixteenth. How would green > > mountain state growers ever expect to compete since labor is the > significant > > factor in the cost of saffron production? The proposition simply doesn't > make > > much economic sense unless there is sufficiently great value added > > downstream. > > > > No more crocus here. Rodents ate the entire collection within months of > our > > arrival. Then they feasted on the babiana, and then sparaxis. > > > > Mark Mazer > > Hertford, NC > > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Judy Glattstein > > wrote: > > > > > Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: > > > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's > > > involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric > > > state of Vermont. > > > > > > So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or > > > domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! > > > Fahrenheit > > > Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping > > > from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 > > > degrees fahrenheit a week later > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From 64kkmjr@gmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Karl Church <64kkmjr@gmail.com> Subject: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:37:20 -0800 As a member of the Bulb Society and the Cactus and Succulent Society I've found that this craziness (addiction) is quite common so don't feel alone. While my addiction started only a few years ago, I completely understand. Karl Church Dinuba, CA On Jan 13, 2017 12:47 PM, "Mike Rummerfield" wrote: > " .... so unfortunately I'm running out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A > theory confirmed by my wife :-)" > > Chad, > Yes - but such a wonderful crazy. Maybe time to put yourself into > irretrievable debt (and marital disharmony) to add on to that greenhouse? > Adding on to the house might be pushing it a bit. 🙃 > > I hope your Hippeastrum blooms this Spring. > Best of luck, > Mike > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Chad Cox wrote: > > > Thanks all for commiserating with me. > > Fred I too have a house full of plants(some seedlings) but haven't > > experimented with hybridization yet; my wife is already angry so I may > have > > to wait a bit on that plus I'm still waiting for one of my hippeastrum to > > bloom. I'm hoping that will happen in Spring. > > Rick I would have to say that the top of my list would be > angustifolium, > > closely followed by teyucuarense, brasilianum, morelianum, and argentinum > > to start. The truth is I am fascinated by many of the rare species in > this > > genus and the fact that many are practically unheard of in cultivation > > sparks my interest even more since I love challenges. > > Mike thank you for calling to my attention that I suffer from yet > > another condition, Clivia fever. I don't think I have it as badly as you > > but I definitely have it. I've been looking for a nice red one for a long > > time. > > Jim yes I have both hippeastrum and clivia in my greenhouse too, but > > was unable to limit myself to just those two and had to go get some > > Phadranassa and Brunsvigia and Crinum and.... so unfortunately I'm > running > > out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-) > > > > Chad in Elverta CA > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From teck11@embarqmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <000901d26dec$10ec8090$32c581b0$@embarqmail.com> From: "Tim Eck" Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:26:18 -0500 It's like regular image analysis except instead of using brightness for the basic contrast method, you can use the hue, saturation, and intensity breakdown of the color image. In this system hue is the basic color, while saturation is the amount the color is diluted, and intensity is whether it is diluted by white- gray- black. Using this method, your robot would grab anything blue - violet in hue, avoiding green, and the sorter would grab anything orange-red. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of From HK > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 4:31 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > > Hue base image processing? Wow. > From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <9540C12C-876B-4896-99B4-C5C83F8F78CA@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:10:53 -0600 Judy, I vaguely nrecall that the ‘Last Saffron Farm’ * on the east coast was in PA near Phil. My original stock of bulbs came from there when they closed years ago. Wages simply made i t uncommercial. On the other hand I’d certinly urge small growers to produce saffron as a specialty product for farmers market where they could gert a premium prices for even small amounts. Easy to grow and harvest if you are not trying to make money onit. Jim * This may just have been a story. Something vaguely associated with PA Dutch communities. - or not. On Jan 13, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Judy Glattstein wrote: Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric state of Vermont. So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! Fahrenheit Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 degrees fahrenheit a week later Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From plantsman@comcast.net Fri, 13 Jan 2017 17:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <20170114004013.1F1B924FD@lists.ibiblio.org> From: Nathan Lange Subject: Comcast Test Message Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:40:09 -0800 This is a Comcast test message to help resolve email issues between PBS and Comcast. Nathan From hk@icarustrading.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 18:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: From HK Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:20:26 -0500 How long can you harvest and grow if you cannot support it? On Friday, January 13, 2017, James Waddick wrote: > Judy, > > I vaguely nrecall that the ‘Last Saffron Farm’ * on the east coast > was in PA near Phil. My original stock of bulbs came from there when they > closed years ago. Wages simply made i t uncommercial. > > On the other hand I’d certinly urge small growers to produce > saffron as a specialty product for farmers market where they could gert a > premium prices for even small amounts. > > Easy to grow and harvest if you are not trying to make money onit. > > Jim > > * This may just have been a story. Something vaguely associated with PA > Dutch communities. - or not. > > > > > > > > On Jan 13, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Judy Glattstein > wrote: > > Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's > involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric state > of Vermont. > > So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or > domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! > Fahrenheit > Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping > from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 degrees > fahrenheit a week later > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From teck11@embarqmail.com Fri, 13 Jan 2017 20:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <000001d26e15$5682b1a0$038814e0$@embarqmail.com> From: "Tim Eck" Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:21:46 -0500 Just in case someone who hasn't read the cautions in prior saffron streams decides to grow it, be aware that voles can eat every bulb in one season. At my previous residence, I had a few thousand bulbs under half inch hardware cloth (http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-25-ft-Hardware-Cloth-308226H D/204331883 ) and when I moved, I decided to plant them in the lawn without protection. The first year I got one blossom and not a one since. Tim From garak@code-garak.de Sat, 14 Jan 2017 01:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <605a8c28-66d3-5417-f00e-225e3f6d764e@code-garak.de> From: Garak Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 09:33:11 +0100 Sounds like a working solution to me - you could start with something like this weeding robot http://sine.ni.com/cs/app/doc/p/id/cs-13096# , it has the camera and the labview-based tools already included... though actually i'd expect your President to be may just choose the low-tech method and raise the import taxes on saffron. Am 13.01.2017 um 23:26 schrieb Tim Eck: > It's like regular image analysis except instead of using brightness for the > basic contrast method, you can use the hue, saturation, and intensity > breakdown of the color image. In this system hue is the basic color, while > saturation is the amount the color is diluted, and intensity is whether it > is diluted by white- gray- black. Using this method, your robot would grab > anything blue - violet in hue, avoiding green, and the sorter would grab > anything orange-red. > > Tim > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of From HK >> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 4:31 PM >> To: Pacific Bulb Society >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? >> >> Hue base image processing? Wow. >> > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki -- Martin ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a From garak@code-garak.de Sat, 14 Jan 2017 01:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <8ade9057-85b3-b5bb-0850-ec03d02da71e@code-garak.de> From: Garak Subject: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 09:44:37 +0100 Am 13.01.2017 um 20:52 schrieb Chad Cox: > I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-) We all are crazy, why else would we be on this list. My case of CHAD is only mild (4 Species in seedling state), but Irids have hit me hard - the trick is to have your wife hooked on it, too - or maybe on something similar addictive. My partner is madly collecting Eurovision Song Contest entries on vinyl (the Japanese edition of the German entry from 1970? He's got it!). Luckily, plants an vinyl prefer different environments. But it's definitely easier for two mad people to live together than for a mad and a sane person... -- Martin ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a From avbeek1@hotmail.com Sat, 14 Jan 2017 03:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Aad van Beek Subject: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:23:10 +0000 >But it's definitely easier for two mad people to live together than for a mad and a sane person... It all depends on weather the collector is the mad or the sane person.. From dkramb@badbear.com Sat, 14 Jan 2017 08:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb Subject: xGlokohleria 'Pink Heaven' from BX 336 Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 11:03:48 -0500 Is anyone still growing this? It was offered about 4 yrs ago in BX 336. I can't find any info about it via Google searches. The closest thing I can find is something called xGlokohleria rosea. www.fialkin.ru/katalogi_rasteniy/drugie_gesnerivye/xglokohleria_rosea.html Dennis in Cincinnati From erik@tepuidesign.com Sat, 14 Jan 2017 09:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Erik Van Lennep Subject: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:19:07 +0100 Hmmm. I have different perspective on this, Sure, go ahead and see what's possible in east coast cultivation (I think the UK during a drier period also produced saffron commercially....but they probably didn't pay the pickers well, employed children, etc). I'll continue to treasure and savor it, indulging when I can justify it for particular dishes. But I'll also continue to buy it from the countries where people have a hard enough time making a living, are continuing a millennia-old tradition, and the saffron cultivation provides a viable alternative to opium production. I see this as the upside to global sourcing, my purchases going to support the sort of world I want to live in. Here's a thorough article on saffron as a medicinal, a dye, and an antidepressant drug. Maybe more than some need to know, but great fodder for plant geeks like me :) http://www.itmonline.org/articles/saffron/saffron.htm Erik van Lennep SKYPE green.heart youth and elders short video http://www.linkedin.com/in/erikvanlennep <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> “I know of no restorative of heart, body, and soul more effective against hopelessness than the restoration of the Earth.” —BARRY LOPEZ” On 14 January 2017 at 09:33, Garak wrote: > > Sounds like a working solution to me - you could start with something like > this weeding robot http://sine.ni.com/cs/app/doc/p/id/cs-13096# , it has > the camera and the labview-based tools already included... though actually > i'd expect your President to be may just choose the low-tech method and > raise the import taxes on saffron. > > > Am 13.01.2017 um 23:26 schrieb Tim Eck: > >> It's like regular image analysis except instead of using brightness for >> the >> basic contrast method, you can use the hue, saturation, and intensity >> breakdown of the color image. In this system hue is the basic color, >> while >> saturation is the amount the color is diluted, and intensity is whether it >> is diluted by white- gray- black. Using this method, your robot would >> grab >> anything blue - violet in hue, avoiding green, and the sorter would grab >> anything orange-red. >> >> Tim >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of From HK >>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 4:31 PM >>> To: Pacific Bulb Society >>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? >>> >>> Hue base image processing? Wow. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> > > > -- > Martin > ---------------------------------------------- > Southern Germany > Likely zone 7a > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From petersirises@gmail.com Sat, 14 Jan 2017 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <587a64a3.09bb1c0a.27a9b.d009@mx.google.com> From: Peter Taggart Subject: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:49:23 +0000 Understand the Freudian Slip? Or else stormy weather ahead if the wrong partner is sane! -----Original Message----- From: "Aad van Beek" Sent: ‎14/‎01/‎2017 10:23 To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Subject: Re: [pbs] Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder >But it's definitely easier for two mad people to live together than for a mad and a sane person... It all depends on weather the collector is the mad or the sane person.. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jane@deskhenge.com Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <0f9c3584-397b-eb67-48ed-be55ce262e96@deskhenge.com> From: Jane Sargent Subject: Garak Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:59:57 -0500 Too bad our new President can´t solve Vermont´s problems by raising the import duty on opium. I´m imagining a black market in saffron. An Egyptian friend once told me, by the way, that paella is the Arabic word for leftovers. Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From penstemon@Q.com Sat, 14 Jan 2017 16:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: "penstemon" Subject: Garak Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 17:06:14 -0700 >I´m imagining a black market in saffron. If the crocuses are prolific producers, as they are here, you get tired of saffron in everything. Saffron bread, saffron rice, saffron this, saffron that. Bob Nold Denver, Colorado, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ben.zonneveld@naturalis.nl Sun, 15 Jan 2017 04:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Ben Zonneveld Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 168, Issue 7 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 12:25:39 +0100 An experienced bulbgrower from the Netherlands tried to set up growing safron in Afganistan a few years ago, to help the local people. However he could not compete with the growing of papaver! (This is not to encourage the growing of papaver in Vermont!) 2017-01-13 22:30 GMT+01:00 : > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: List-Archive: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ledebouria cooperi (Shmuel Silinsky) > 2. Dividing Clivia miniata (Shmuel Silinsky) > 3. Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? (Judy Glattstein) > 4. Re: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? (Mark Mazer) > 5. Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder (Chad Cox) > 6. Re: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder (James SHIELDS) > 7. Re: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? (Tim Eck) > 8. Re: Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder (Mike Rummerfield) > 9. Re: Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? (From HK) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:35:11 -0500 > From: Shmuel Silinsky > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Ledebouria cooperi > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I live in Jersalem (USDA zone 9b) and my Ledebouria cooperi in a pot have > gone dormant (sort of). This is the first winter I have had them and am a > bit at a loss. Do I let them dry out completely? Also shoul d the bulbs be > buried completely of exposed like L socialis? > > Duh. I just read the PBS page on Ledebouria > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Ledebouria and it pretty > much answered my questions. One swhould always look there first. :) > > Shmuel > Get a signature like this: Click here! > lzZXN0YW1wLmNvbS9lbWFpbC1pbnN0YWxsP3dzX25jaWQ9NjcyMjk0MDA4Jn > V0bV9zb3VyY2U9ZXh0ZW5zaW9uJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbX > BhaWduPXByb21vXzU3MzI1Njg1NDg3Njk3OTIiLCAiZSI6ICI1NzMyNTY4NT > Q4NzY5NzkyIn0=&u=385256032547269> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 04:41:51 -0500 > From: Shmuel Silinsky > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Dividing Clivia miniata > Message-ID: > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have a pretty crowded 5 gal bucket of Clivia miniata. When is best to > divide it? Now? After flowering? I would like flowers this year as I missed > them last year. (I was too late with the Measurol and they ended up snail > food.) > > Shmuel > > Get a signature like this: Click here! > lzZXN0YW1wLmNvbS9lbWFpbC1pbnN0YWxsP3dzX25jaWQ9NjcyMjk0MDA4Jn > V0bV9zb3VyY2U9ZXh0ZW5zaW9uJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbX > BhaWduPXByb21vXzU3MzI1Njg1NDg3Njk3OTIiLCAiZSI6ICI1NzMyNTY4NT > Q4NzY5NzkyIn0=&u=833045879870440> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:05:55 -0500 > From: Judy Glattstein > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's > involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric > state of Vermont. > > So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or > domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! > Fahrenheit > Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping > from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 > degrees fahrenheit a week later > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:57:06 -0500 > From: Mark Mazer > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > Message-ID: > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > The minimum wage in Iran is one fifth of Vermont's. The minimum wage in > Spain is half, and in Afghanistan 'tis one sixteenth. How would green > mountain state growers ever expect to compete since labor is the > significant factor in the cost of saffron production? The proposition > simply doesn't make much economic sense unless there is sufficiently > great value > added downstream. > > No more crocus here. Rodents ate the entire collection within months of > our arrival. Then they feasted on the babiana, and then sparaxis. > > Mark Mazer > Hertford, NC > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Judy Glattstein > wrote: > > > Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: > > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's > > involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric > state > > of Vermont. > > > > So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or > > domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! > > Fahrenheit > > Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping > > from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 > degrees > > fahrenheit a week later > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:52:52 -0800 > From: Chad Cox > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: [pbs] Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder > Message-ID: <04762E74-865B-4996-B535-11DB611B6C05@ucdavis.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks all for commiserating with me. > Fred I too have a house full of plants(some seedlings) but haven't > experimented with hybridization yet; my wife is already angry so I may have > to wait a bit on that plus I'm still waiting for one of my hippeastrum to > bloom. I'm hoping that will happen in Spring. > Rick I would have to say that the top of my list would be angustifolium, > closely followed by teyucuarense, brasilianum, morelianum, and argentinum > to start. The truth is I am fascinated by many of the rare species in this > genus and the fact that many are practically unheard of in cultivation > sparks my interest even more since I love challenges. > Mike thank you for calling to my attention that I suffer from yet > another condition, Clivia fever. I don't think I have it as badly as you > but I definitely have it. I've been looking for a nice red one for a long > time. > Jim yes I have both hippeastrum and clivia in my greenhouse too, but > was unable to limit myself to just those two and had to go get some > Phadranassa and Brunsvigia and Crinum and.... so unfortunately I'm running > out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-) > > Chad in Elverta CA > > > > Sent from my iPhone > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > > > Sent from my iPhone > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:09:26 -0500 > From: James SHIELDS > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder > Message-ID: > xZQfn4LOj5A@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Chad, > > > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Chad Cox wrote: > > > ......... > > Jim yes I have both hippeastrum and clivia in my greenhouse too, but > > was unable to limit myself to just those two and had to go get some > > Phadranassa and Brunsvigia and Crinum and.... so unfortunately I'm > running > > out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-) > > ......... > > > The obvious solution to our dilemma is to add more greenhouses. I am up to > four now. > > Jim > > > -- > James Shields jshields46074@gmail.com > P.O. Box 92 > Westfield, IN 46074 > U.S.A. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 15:27:17 -0500 > From: "Tim Eck" > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" > Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > Message-ID: <000401d26ddb$6fb4f000$4f1ed000$@embarqmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Harvesting (and separation of the pistil from the bloom) is the only > work-intensive part and both are very amenable to 'robomation' using > hue-based image processing. > > Tim Eck > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Mazer > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 1:57 PM > > To: Pacific Bulb Society > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > > > > The minimum wage in Iran is one fifth of Vermont's. The minimum wage in > > Spain is half, and in Afghanistan 'tis one sixteenth. How would green > > mountain state growers ever expect to compete since labor is the > significant > > factor in the cost of saffron production? The proposition simply doesn't > make > > much economic sense unless there is sufficiently great value added > > downstream. > > > > No more crocus here. Rodents ate the entire collection within months of > our > > arrival. Then they feasted on the babiana, and then sparaxis. > > > > Mark Mazer > > Hertford, NC > > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Judy Glattstein > wrote: > > > > > Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: > > > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's > > > involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric > > > state of Vermont. > > > > > > So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or > > > domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! > > > Fahrenheit > > > Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully flip-flopping > > > from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 > > > degrees fahrenheit a week later > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:47:09 -0800 > From: Mike Rummerfield > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Chronic hippeastrum acquisition disorder > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > " .... so unfortunately I'm running out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A > theory confirmed by my wife :-)" > > Chad, > Yes - but such a wonderful crazy. Maybe time to put yourself into > irretrievable debt (and marital disharmony) to add on to that greenhouse? > Adding on to the house might be pushing it a bit. ? > > I hope your Hippeastrum blooms this Spring. > Best of luck, > Mike > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Chad Cox wrote: > > > Thanks all for commiserating with me. > > Fred I too have a house full of plants(some seedlings) but haven't > > experimented with hybridization yet; my wife is already angry so I may > have > > to wait a bit on that plus I'm still waiting for one of my hippeastrum to > > bloom. I'm hoping that will happen in Spring. > > Rick I would have to say that the top of my list would be > angustifolium, > > closely followed by teyucuarense, brasilianum, morelianum, and argentinum > > to start. The truth is I am fascinated by many of the rare species in > this > > genus and the fact that many are practically unheard of in cultivation > > sparks my interest even more since I love challenges. > > Mike thank you for calling to my attention that I suffer from yet > > another condition, Clivia fever. I don't think I have it as badly as you > > but I definitely have it. I've been looking for a nice red one for a long > > time. > > Jim yes I have both hippeastrum and clivia in my greenhouse too, but > > was unable to limit myself to just those two and had to go get some > > Phadranassa and Brunsvigia and Crinum and.... so unfortunately I'm > running > > out of space. I think I'm just crazy. A theory confirmed by my wife :-) > > > > Chad in Elverta CA > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:30:40 -0500 > From: From HK > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hue base image processing? Wow. > > On Friday, January 13, 2017, Tim Eck wrote: > > > Harvesting (and separation of the pistil from the bloom) is the only > > work-intensive part and both are very amenable to 'robomation' using > > hue-based image processing. > > > > Tim Eck > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org ] On > > Behalf Of Mark Mazer > > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 1:57 PM > > > To: Pacific Bulb Society > > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Could Saffron Help Vermont Farmers? > > > > > > The minimum wage in Iran is one fifth of Vermont's. The minimum wage > in > > > Spain is half, and in Afghanistan 'tis one sixteenth. How would green > > > mountain state growers ever expect to compete since labor is the > > significant > > > factor in the cost of saffron production? The proposition simply > doesn't > > make > > > much economic sense unless there is sufficiently great value added > > > downstream. > > > > > > No more crocus here. Rodents ate the entire collection within months > of > > our > > > arrival. Then they feasted on the babiana, and then sparaxis. > > > > > > Mark Mazer > > > Hertford, NC > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Judy Glattstein > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Calling saffron "the world's most expensive spice," a BBC article: > > > > http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37581228 looks into what's > > > > involved in raising and harvest saffron in New England's ski-centric > > > > state of Vermont. > > > > > > > > So perhaps we'll have our choice of imported-from-Afghanistan or > > > > domestically-produced saffron. Paella for all! > > > > Fahrenheit > > > > Judy in the Garden State, where our weather is gleefully > flip-flopping > > > > from nighttime lows of 9 degrees Fahrenheit to a daytime high of 59 > > > > degrees fahrenheit a week later > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > pbs mailing list > > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 168, Issue 7 > *********************************** > -- BJM Zonneveld Naturalis, Herbarium section Postbox 9517 Vondellaan 55, 2300RA Leiden The Netherlands Email: ben.zonneveld@naturalis.nl , telf 071-7517228 From jane@deskhenge.com Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <017a4dd6-6779-68f1-c20f-e9c3515fd54a@deskhenge.com> From: Jane Sargent Subject: CHAD Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:53:28 -0500 I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I have a PTSD from having lived with a collector many years ago--not a plant collector, but in the extreme case, the symptoms are probably the same. My situation had a happy ending when I traded him my half-interest in the collection, for the house and full custody of the kids. I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the bright, cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeastrum-rutilum/381632910.html First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable to me. Are there really blue ones? Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to mail bulbs here from China? Or even seeds? If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what would be? January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in Massachusetts. It´s cold. The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: I can quit whenever I want to. Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. I´m not hurting other people. I´m not even hurting myself. It´s not illegal. It actually improves my performance. I deserve it. Everybody does it. You do it, too. It´s a disease, not a moral failing. One day at a time. Jane _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From hk@icarustrading.com Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: From HK Subject: CHAD Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:11:37 -0500 Has anyone order from dhgate? Having done agriculture business in China, I am weary of this site. Please let me know if someone finds a good seller on dhgate. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jane Sargent wrote: > I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I have a PTSD > from having lived with a collector many years ago--not a plant collector, > but in the extreme case, the symptoms are probably the same. My situation > had a happy ending when I traded him my half-interest in the collection, > for the house and full custody of the kids. > I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in > Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the bright, > cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, > http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeast > rum-rutilum/381632910.html > First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable to me. > Are there really blue ones? > Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to mail bulbs > here from China? Or even seeds? > If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what would be? > January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in > Massachusetts. It´s cold. > The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: > I can quit whenever I want to. > Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. > I´m not hurting other people. > I´m not even hurting myself. > It´s not illegal. > It actually improves my performance. > I deserve it. > Everybody does it. > You do it, too. > It´s a disease, not a moral failing. > One day at a time. > Jane > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From tim@gingerwoodnursery.com Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Tim Chapman Subject: CHAD Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:21:50 -0600 Rule of thumb , if the color is very rare or too good to be true do not order from Chinese vendors. Most of these items are very obvious bad photoshop attempts. In addition to bulbs, there are many bogus seed sellers as well. There are vendors with rare items that are reliable but you won't find them on eBay or easy searched sites. As for blue-ish Hippeastrum there was a post here (I think) of someone that had done gene transfer with Worselya into Hippeastrum however I don't know if that was ever verified or if there is published research ??? Tim Chapman > On Jan 15, 2017, at 5:11 PM, From HK wrote: > > Has anyone order from dhgate? Having done agriculture business in China, > I am weary of this site. > > Please let me know if someone finds a good seller on dhgate. > >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jane Sargent wrote: >> >> I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I have a PTSD >> from having lived with a collector many years ago--not a plant collector, >> but in the extreme case, the symptoms are probably the same. My situation >> had a happy ending when I traded him my half-interest in the collection, >> for the house and full custody of the kids. >> I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in >> Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the bright, >> cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeast >> rum-rutilum/381632910.html >> First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable to me. >> Are there really blue ones? >> Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to mail bulbs >> here from China? Or even seeds? >> If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what would be? >> January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in >> Massachusetts. It´s cold. >> The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: >> I can quit whenever I want to. >> Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. >> I´m not hurting other people. >> I´m not even hurting myself. >> It´s not illegal. >> It actually improves my performance. >> I deserve it. >> Everybody does it. >> You do it, too. >> It´s a disease, not a moral failing. >> One day at a time. >> Jane >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janjeddeloh@gmail.com Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <516A86DB-C588-4117-96B9-5A45603E442B@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh Subject: CHAD Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:25:08 -0800 I’d bet the seller could also offer you a special deal on some bright blue or multi-colored roses. Surely you’ve seen those on Ebay before? Jan > On Jan 15, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Jane Sargent wrote: > > I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I have a PTSD from having lived with a collector many years ago--not a plant collector, but in the extreme case, the symptoms are probably the same. My situation had a happy ending when I traded him my half-interest in the collection, for the house and full custody of the kids. > I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the bright, cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, > http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeastrum-rutilum/381632910.html > First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable to me. Are there really blue ones? > Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to mail bulbs here from China? Or even seeds? > If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what would be? > January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in Massachusetts. It´s cold. > The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: > I can quit whenever I want to. > Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. > I´m not hurting other people. > I´m not even hurting myself. > It´s not illegal. > It actually improves my performance. > I deserve it. > Everybody does it. > You do it, too. > It´s a disease, not a moral failing. > One day at a time. > Jane > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From arnold140@verizon.net Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Arnold140 Subject: CHAD Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:46:49 -0500 The only one I know is Telos Rare Bulbs in CA. Diane who is the proprietor appears here on occasion. Arnold New Jersey Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2017, at 6:11 PM, From HK wrote: > > Has anyone order from dhgate? Having done agriculture business in China, > I am weary of this site. > > Please let me know if someone finds a good seller on dhgate. > >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jane Sargent wrote: >> >> I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I have a PTSD >> from having lived with a collector many years ago--not a plant collector, >> but in the extreme case, the symptoms are probably the same. My situation >> had a happy ending when I traded him my half-interest in the collection, >> for the house and full custody of the kids. >> I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in >> Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the bright, >> cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeast >> rum-rutilum/381632910.html >> First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable to me. >> Are there really blue ones? >> Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to mail bulbs >> here from China? Or even seeds? >> If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what would be? >> January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in >> Massachusetts. It´s cold. >> The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: >> I can quit whenever I want to. >> Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. >> I´m not hurting other people. >> I´m not even hurting myself. >> It´s not illegal. >> It actually improves my performance. >> I deserve it. >> Everybody does it. >> You do it, too. >> It´s a disease, not a moral failing. >> One day at a time. >> Jane >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <9a83552b-36b2-8e09-ae86-c5e693dece9f@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: Comcast Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:25:38 +0000 Hi, Comcast keep rejecting PBS list posts as spam. I have filled in their form to re-enable email delivery a couple of times in the last month. If you're a comcast subscriber you now know about the problem. You can always keep up with posts via the archive: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive One of our members has pestered comcast a lot about this issue. It might help if others did too. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From arnold140@verizon.net Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Arnold140 Subject: Comcast Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:23:34 -0500 I find a threat to take your business elsewhere can lubricate the issue. Arnold Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2017, at 7:25 PM, David Pilling wrote: > > Hi, > > Comcast keep rejecting PBS list posts as spam. I have filled in their form to re-enable email delivery a couple of times in the last month. > > If you're a comcast subscriber you now know about the problem. > > You can always keep up with posts via the archive: > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive > > One of our members has pestered comcast a lot about this issue. It might help if others did too. > > > -- > David Pilling > www.davidpilling.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From mikerumm@gmail.com Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Rummerfield Subject: CHAD Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:43:27 -0800 I agree with Tim and Jan. If there is a color break-through in Hippeastrum or Clivia, you are not going to see it first on eBay. There are also "blue", "purple", and fuchsia colored Clivia offered on eBay from oversea sources. They would be Clivia nosuchianum. I also agree with Arnold. Telos Rare Bulbs is very reliable, in my experience. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Arnold140 wrote: > The only one I know is Telos Rare Bulbs in CA. Diane who is the proprietor > appears here on occasion. > > Arnold > New Jersey > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 6:11 PM, From HK wrote: > > > > Has anyone order from dhgate? Having done agriculture business in > China, > > I am weary of this site. > > > > Please let me know if someone finds a good seller on dhgate. > > > >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jane Sargent > wrote: > >> > >> I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I have a > PTSD > >> from having lived with a collector many years ago--not a plant > collector, > >> but in the extreme case, the symptoms are probably the same. My > situation > >> had a happy ending when I traded him my half-interest in the collection, > >> for the house and full custody of the kids. > >> I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in > >> Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the > bright, > >> cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, > >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeast > >> rum-rutilum/381632910.html > >> First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable to me. > >> Are there really blue ones? > >> Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to mail bulbs > >> here from China? Or even seeds? > >> If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what would > be? > >> January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in > >> Massachusetts. It´s cold. > >> The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: > >> I can quit whenever I want to. > >> Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. > >> I´m not hurting other people. > >> I´m not even hurting myself. > >> It´s not illegal. > >> It actually improves my performance. > >> I deserve it. > >> Everybody does it. > >> You do it, too. > >> It´s a disease, not a moral failing. > >> One day at a time. > >> Jane > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From teck11@embarqmail.com Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <000d01d26fab$662f91d0$328eb570$@embarqmail.com> From: "Tim Eck" Subject: CHAD Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:48:28 -0500 There is a reliable Japanese vendor who sells on eBay. I have ordered from them with good luck. You can also order some excellent hippeastrums from bulk domestic dealers (Sunshine etc.) and niche breeders ( Mary Mancini ?) on eBay. I haven't ordered from them in a few years so my info might be outdated. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Arnold140 > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:47 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] CHAD > > The only one I know is Telos Rare Bulbs in CA. Diane who is the proprietor > appears here on occasion. > > Arnold > New Jersey > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 6:11 PM, From HK wrote: > > > > Has anyone order from dhgate? Having done agriculture business in China, > > I am weary of this site. > > > > Please let me know if someone finds a good seller on dhgate. > > > >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jane Sargent > wrote: > >> > >> I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I have a > >> PTSD from having lived with a collector many years ago--not a plant > >> collector, but in the extreme case, the symptoms are probably the > >> same. My situation had a happy ending when I traded him my > >> half-interest in the collection, for the house and full custody of the kids. > >> I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in > >> Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the > >> bright, cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, > >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeast > >> rum-rutilum/381632910.html > >> First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable to me. > >> Are there really blue ones? > >> Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to mail > >> bulbs here from China? Or even seeds? > >> If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what would be? > >> January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in > >> Massachusetts. It´s cold. > >> The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: > >> I can quit whenever I want to. > >> Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. > >> I´m not hurting other people. > >> I´m not even hurting myself. > >> It´s not illegal. > >> It actually improves my performance. > >> I deserve it. > >> Everybody does it. > >> You do it, too. > >> It´s a disease, not a moral failing. > >> One day at a time. > >> Jane > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From mikerumm@gmail.com Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Rummerfield Subject: CHAD Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:07:46 -0800 The niche Hippeastrum breeder that sells on eBay at times is Maria Mancini in VA, dba. - greentreasures03. She also grows Clivia and I have bought Clivia plants and seeds from her. I've never received more carefully packaged plants than she sends. She's good at communicating, is very reliable, knows her stuff, and ships quickly. NOTE: if she has no current listings, eBay will put up another seller with a similar name that has no relation whatsoever with Maria Mancini. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Tim Eck wrote: > There is a reliable Japanese vendor who sells on eBay. I have ordered > from them with good luck. You can also order some excellent hippeastrums > from bulk domestic dealers (Sunshine etc.) and niche breeders ( Mary > Mancini ?) on eBay. I haven't ordered from them in a few years so my info > might be outdated. > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Arnold140 > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:47 PM > > To: Pacific Bulb Society > > Subject: Re: [pbs] CHAD > > > > The only one I know is Telos Rare Bulbs in CA. Diane who is the > proprietor > > appears here on occasion. > > > > Arnold > > New Jersey > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 6:11 PM, From HK wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone order from dhgate? Having done agriculture business in > China, > > > I am weary of this site. > > > > > > Please let me know if someone finds a good seller on dhgate. > > > > > >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jane Sargent > > wrote: > > >> > > >> I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I have a > > >> PTSD from having lived with a collector many years ago--not a plant > > >> collector, but in the extreme case, the symptoms are probably the > > >> same. My situation had a happy ending when I traded him my > > >> half-interest in the collection, for the house and full custody of > the kids. > > >> I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in > > >> Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the > > >> bright, cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, > > >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeast > > >> rum-rutilum/381632910.html > > >> First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable to > me. > > >> Are there really blue ones? > > >> Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to mail > > >> bulbs here from China? Or even seeds? > > >> If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what > would be? > > >> January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in > > >> Massachusetts. It´s cold. > > >> The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: > > >> I can quit whenever I want to. > > >> Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. > > >> I´m not hurting other people. > > >> I´m not even hurting myself. > > >> It´s not illegal. > > >> It actually improves my performance. > > >> I deserve it. > > >> Everybody does it. > > >> You do it, too. > > >> It´s a disease, not a moral failing. > > >> One day at a time. > > >> Jane > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> pbs mailing list > > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From bob.hoel@comcast.net Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <6DAE565D-CE15-4CF3-888C-E904F10BCED3@comcast.net> From: Robert Hoel Subject: Comcast Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:29:23 -0600 Comcast is my provider as well and I do not seem to have the problem that you are referencing. Bob Hoel 630-240-0219 (cell) Better on a bike than in a box! > On Jan 15, 2017, at 10:07 PM, pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote: > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:25:38 +0000 > From: David Pilling > > To: Pacific Bulb Society > > Subject: [pbs] Comcast > Message-ID: <9a83552b-36b2-8e09-ae86-c5e693dece9f@davidpilling.com > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi, > > Comcast keep rejecting PBS list posts as spam. I have filled in their > form to re-enable email delivery a couple of times in the last month. > > If you're a comcast subscriber you now know about the problem. > > You can always keep up with posts via the archive: > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive > > One of our members has pestered comcast a lot about this issue. It might > help if others did too. From pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <337112584.489474.1484543284067@mail.yahoo.com> From: Fierycloud via pbs Subject: CHAD Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 05:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Hello: 1. Everyone could try using the google image search to find if there are similar images. And apparently there are identical and artificial ones on the other sites.https://www.google.com/imghp (use the camera icon to search by image uploaded.) 2. As far as I know now, only the companies and farm bases on the list could apply for the exporting inspecting and quarantining process.  But most of the  offers are crops.http://dzwjyjgs.aqsiq.gov.cn/zwgk/zwjyjy/cjzwjcp/zmhh/ http://dzwjyjgs.aqsiq.gov.cn/fwdh_n/qymd/zwjcp/gnqymd/201701/P020170111344258173488.xls (In Chinese. The latest version 2017.01.03) FierycloudTaiwan _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Mon, 16 Jan 2017 06:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <545fd8b5-b294-31e6-b3da-fa2225ca9e20@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: Comcast Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 12:23:17 +0000 Hi, On 16/01/2017 04:29, Robert Hoel wrote: > Comcast is my provider as well and I do not seem to have the problem that you are referencing. Some list members get digests, some get individual emails (you can choose). There can be a difference in how systems treat these. Robert you receive digests, with digests it is easy to see if any are missing because the subject lines are consecutively numbered. From the information I have from the list management system my impression is that both digest and individual email subscriptions have been affected, but digests less so. If anyone would like to look through their digests and let me know if any are missing or not, that would be interesting. Possibly private email would be appropriate. The problems began on the 2nd December. There are many less digests than individual emails, that means less opportunities to reject postings. It is the individual email subscriptions that grab our attention. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From teck11@embarqmail.com Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <000f01d27008$fc6c7020$f5455060$@embarqmail.com> From: "Tim Eck" Subject: CHAD Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:58:23 -0500 One caution is to be wary of Thai vendors who are tissue culturists. I understand that part of the agreement when you contract for tissue culture is that they get to take some of the material. Consequently, many people intentionally mislabel their tissue and when the Thai companies try to sell the extra bulbs on eBay, the customer will often get something very different from the label. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mike > Rummerfield > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 11:08 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] CHAD > > The niche Hippeastrum breeder that sells on eBay at times is Maria Mancini > in VA, dba. - greentreasures03. She also grows Clivia and I have bought > Clivia plants and seeds from her. I've never received more carefully > packaged plants than she sends. She's good at communicating, is very > reliable, knows her stuff, and ships quickly. > NOTE: if she has no current listings, eBay will put up another seller with a > similar name that has no relation whatsoever with Maria Mancini. > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Tim Eck wrote: > > > There is a reliable Japanese vendor who sells on eBay. I have ordered > > from them with good luck. You can also order some excellent > > hippeastrums from bulk domestic dealers (Sunshine etc.) and niche > > breeders ( Mary Mancini ?) on eBay. I haven't ordered from them in a > > few years so my info might be outdated. > > Tim > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of > > > Arnold140 > > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:47 PM > > > To: Pacific Bulb Society > > > Subject: Re: [pbs] CHAD > > > > > > The only one I know is Telos Rare Bulbs in CA. Diane who is the > > proprietor > > > appears here on occasion. > > > > > > Arnold > > > New Jersey > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 6:11 PM, From HK wrote: > > > > > > > > Has anyone order from dhgate? Having done agriculture business in > > China, > > > > I am weary of this site. > > > > > > > > Please let me know if someone finds a good seller on dhgate. > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Jane Sargent > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I understand that CHAD can be difficult for family harmony. I > > > >> have a PTSD from having lived with a collector many years > > > >> ago--not a plant collector, but in the extreme case, the symptoms > > > >> are probably the same. My situation had a happy ending when I > > > >> traded him my half-interest in the collection, for the house and > > > >> full custody of > > the kids. > > > >> I have a few hippeastrums in the garden in Mexic/o./ Here in > > > >> Massachusetts, I am considering getting one to put indoors on the > > > >> bright, cool windowsill. There was a website offering them, > > > >> http://www.dhgate.com/product/3pcs-a-set-blue-color-hippeast > > > >> rum-rutilum/381632910.html > > > >> First of all, it says they are blue, and this seems questionable > > > >> to > > me. > > > >> Are there really blue ones? > > > >> Secondly, he says he ships them from China. Is it possible to > > > >> mail bulbs here from China? Or even seeds? > > > >> If this isn´t a proper hippeastrum source, could you tell me what > > would be? > > > >> January seems a bad time for a bulb to be in a Fedex truck in > > > >> Massachusetts. It´s cold. > > > >> The reasons I´m not afraid that I´ll get CHAD: > > > >> I can quit whenever I want to. > > > >> Other people have more hippeastrums than I do. > > > >> I´m not hurting other people. > > > >> I´m not even hurting myself. > > > >> It´s not illegal. > > > >> It actually improves my performance. > > > >> I deserve it. > > > >> Everybody does it. > > > >> You do it, too. > > > >> It´s a disease, not a moral failing. > > > >> One day at a time. > > > >> Jane > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> pbs mailing list > > > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > pbs mailing list > > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From wpoulsen@pacbell.net Mon, 16 Jan 2017 10:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <6EB251E8-0972-4B88-9A68-085794BA98F8@pacbell.net> From: Lee Poulsen Subject: CHAD Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:47:25 -0800 Telos is extremely reliable. Diane knows her bulbs. The Japanese guy is Komoriya and he has been breeding all kinds of bulbs, especially Hippeastrum for decades. His stock is wholesaled all over Japan. He even has some rare species of other bulbs that if you find them on his actual website (rather than just what he offers on eBay), I’ve been told you can email him and request them and he’ll offer them when they’re dormant. (He also has some amazing Lachenalia hybrids that he once offered a couple of years ago on eBay for a few months.) Finally, there is an excellent seed source for Brazilian Hippeastrum species (and some primary crosses). That would be Brazilplants which is run by Mauro Peixoto. (If you’re ever in the vicinity of São Paulo, Brazil and can afford an extra day to head out to his farm and shade houses, you’ll be blown away by all the rare and amazing Brazilian natives he grows. For example, picture a piece of one-meter diameter concrete pipe placed vertically on the ground outside and filled with well drained medium as a sort of giant pot or small bed, filled with about 25 giant bulbs of Worsleya all of which are in full bloom with about hundred of those amazing purple-lavender flowers open at the same time!) Now if we could just get someone in Argentina, and especially Bolivia, to start up a mail order nursery to grow and offer seeds of their native Hippeastrums (someone in Peru would be nice, too), I would be in heaven. But it would also mean that CHAD sufferers would never be cured. If you have a Facebook account, go look at the photos of Bolivian Hippeastrum species that Raul Fernando Lara Rico has posted. Actually, I think he also cross-posts them on the Planet Botanical Hippeastrum Facebook group site, which if you go there and search the group for his name, you’ll eventually find a series of photos of all the native Bolivian species. But I warn you that you’ll get a serious flare up of Hippeastrum lust. --Lee Poulsen Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > On Jan 15, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Tim Eck wrote: > > There is a reliable Japanese vendor who sells on eBay. I have ordered from them with good luck. You can also order some excellent hippeastrums from bulk domestic dealers (Sunshine etc.) and niche breeders ( Mary Mancini ?) on eBay. I haven't ordered from them in a few years so my info might be outdated. > Tim > > >> -----Original Message----- >> >> The only one I know is Telos Rare Bulbs in CA. Diane who is the proprietor >> appears here on occasion. >> >> Arnold _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From louisrichard11@gmail.com Mon, 16 Jan 2017 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Louis Richard Subject: CHAD Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 14:10:19 -0500 What a wonderful and fine post, Mr. Poulsen! Thanks for sharing! Louis Matane, Quebec Zone 4b http://www.jardinsdedoris.ca/index.html https://www.facebook.com/pages/Les-jardins-de-Doris/355727243167?fref=ts 2017-01-16 12:47 GMT-05:00 Lee Poulsen : > Telos is extremely reliable. Diane knows her bulbs. > > The Japanese guy is Komoriya and he has been breeding all kinds of bulbs, > especially Hippeastrum for decades. His stock is wholesaled all over Japan. > He even has some rare species of other bulbs that if you find them on his > actual website (rather than just what he offers on eBay), I’ve been told > you can email him and request them and he’ll offer them when they’re > dormant. (He also has some amazing Lachenalia hybrids that he once offered > a couple of years ago on eBay for a few months.) > > Finally, there is an excellent seed source for Brazilian Hippeastrum > species (and some primary crosses). That would be Brazilplants which is run > by Mauro Peixoto. (If you’re ever in the vicinity of São Paulo, Brazil and > can afford an extra day to head out to his farm and shade houses, you’ll be > blown away by all the rare and amazing Brazilian natives he grows. For > example, picture a piece of one-meter diameter concrete pipe placed > vertically on the ground outside and filled with well drained medium as a > sort of giant pot or small bed, filled with about 25 giant bulbs of > Worsleya all of which are in full bloom with about hundred of those amazing > purple-lavender flowers open at the same time!) > > Now if we could just get someone in Argentina, and especially Bolivia, to > start up a mail order nursery to grow and offer seeds of their native > Hippeastrums (someone in Peru would be nice, too), I would be in heaven. > But it would also mean that CHAD sufferers would never be cured. If you > have a Facebook account, go look at the photos of Bolivian Hippeastrum > species that Raul Fernando Lara Rico has posted. Actually, I think he also > cross-posts them on the Planet Botanical Hippeastrum Facebook group site, > which if you go there and search the group for his name, you’ll eventually > find a series of photos of all the native Bolivian species. But I warn you > that you’ll get a serious flare up of Hippeastrum lust. > > --Lee Poulsen > Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a > Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > > > > On Jan 15, 2017, at 7:48 PM, Tim Eck wrote: > > > > There is a reliable Japanese vendor who sells on eBay. I have ordered > from them with good luck. You can also order some excellent hippeastrums > from bulk domestic dealers (Sunshine etc.) and niche breeders ( Mary > Mancini ?) on eBay. I haven't ordered from them in a few years so my info > might be outdated. > > Tim > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > >> The only one I know is Telos Rare Bulbs in CA. Diane who is the > proprietor > >> appears here on occasion. > >> > >> Arnold > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Mon, 16 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <85c7e9ca-a7c2-280c-b621-a50e27d56535@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: CHAD Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:24:51 -0800 Lee Poulsen wrote, "Now if we could just get someone in Argentina, and especially Bolivia, to start up a mail order nursery to grow and offer seeds of their native Hippeastrums (someone in Peru would be nice, too), I would be in heaven." It may be a bit premature to mention this, but as it is relevant now: PBS has been contacted by a Bolivian botanist, Dr. Hibert Huaylla, about possibly publishing his monograph on the genus Hippeastrum in Bolivia. His previous publications are in a Bolivian journal. We will be discussing this possible project at the PBS board meeting on January 22. If anyone would like to send me information that would assist our discussion, please WRITE TO ME PRIVATELY, DO NOT REPLY TO THIS LIST. I will share the information with the other board members. The proposed publication would be translated from Spanish to English, and would be downloadable, or perhaps offered through a print-on-demand company. Jane McGary Membership Coordinator, PBS From eez55@earthlink.net Mon, 16 Jan 2017 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <14789704.10920.1484602675054@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: Eugene Zielinski Subject: Fw: PBS website contact:Omithogaluml Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 14:37:54 -0700 (GMT-07:00) We received an inquiry about Ornithogalum fimbrimarginatum through the PBS website. It would probably be best to respond to the questions directly to Nancy (nancyllindsay@verizon.net). Thanks. Eugene Zielinski PBS -----Forwarded Message----- >Sent: Jan 15, 2017 >Subject: PBS website contact:Omithogalum > > >This is a message from the PBS website for eugenezielinski. > >According to your description of Omithogalum, they have been divided into summer growers/winter dormant and winter growers/summer dormant. Which is Omithogalum fimbrimarginatura? I just purchased a small plant at Huntington Gardens but didn\'t think to last. BTW I live in Southern California near the coast (Camarillo), rarely get frost but don\'t have extremely hot summers. Will this plant do well in the ground or better in a pot? > >Thanks > >-- >Pacific Bulb Society web site >email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org > From jane@deskhenge.com Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Jane Sargent Subject: CHAD Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:37:46 -0500 I want to thank everyone who has tried to help me with my Hippeastrum questions. I´ll not be ordering from China. Jane Sargent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From hk@icarustrading.com Mon, 16 Jan 2017 16:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: From HK Subject: CHAD Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 18:24:11 -0500 Darn. We need a Guinea pig😬 On Monday, January 16, 2017, Jane Sargent wrote: > I want to thank everyone who has tried to help me with my Hippeastrum > questions. I´ll not be ordering from China. > Jane Sargent > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <1385764824.79771.1484869002962@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Iris cretensis Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 23:36:42 +0000 (UTC) It may be January, but this one isn't waiting. It has the advantage of a cold frame, and that little bit of bother is certainly worth a reward like this. There is a brief video attached to this blog entry: the quality seems very poor to me now, but sometimes these blog videos improve in time. The quality of the original video is fine, but the quality gets reduced for blogging purposes (or did I select the wrong settings?). Its bigger relative Iris unguicularis has been shy about flowering so far this year, but I see budded sprouts pushing up.  http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2017/01/iris-cretensis-hard-to-believe-that.html Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone7, where a noisy flock of geese just flew over (in the dark!).  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From lmf@beautifulblooms.ab.ca Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <48E34BF8-7A43-4E8C-AA11-F468D006D6FE@beautifulblooms.ab.ca> From: Linda Foulis Subject: Iris cretensis Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:46:15 -0700 Hi Jim, Are the iris planted in the ground in the cold frame or are they potted? Great idea if they're in the ground, bet that would work great here for pushing the zone limits. Which way were those geese headed? I took a peek in my cold frame today and was pleasantly surprised to see green. Some iris started from seed last year, didn't look at the tag, and many more perennials. We've had a chinook the last couple of days with plus temps. One could almost be tempted to think that spring is just around the corner. I dumped more snow in the cold frame and closed the lid. Linda M Foulis Beautiful Blooms www.beautifulblooms.ab.ca Zone 1-2 North of Leslieville, Alberta, Canada > On Jan 19, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Jim McKenney wrote: > > It may be January, but this one isn't waiting. It has the advantage of a cold frame, and that little bit of bother is certainly worth a reward like this. There is a brief video attached to this blog entry: the quality seems very poor to me now, but sometimes these blog videos improve in time. The quality of the original video is fine, but the quality gets reduced for blogging purposes (or did I select the wrong settings?). Its bigger relative Iris unguicularis has been shy about flowering so far this year, but I see budded sprouts pushing up. > http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2017/01/iris-cretensis-hard-to-believe-that.html > > > > Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone7, where a noisy flock of geese just flew over (in the dark!). > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <1745665368.91988.1484875736576@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Iris cretensis Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 01:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Linda asked: " Are the iris planted in the ground in the cold frame or are they potted?    ".They're in the ground. It's been a very happy surprise to me to see some of the plants which are made possible by the cold frame. Jim McKenney _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From david@davidpilling.com Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: Iris cretensis Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 02:13:04 +0000 Hi Jim, On 19/01/17 23:36, Jim McKenney wrote: > http://mcwort.blogspot.com/2017/01/iris-cretensis-hard-to-believe-that.html Nice Iris. Here at 53.8 degrees North the first yellow of crocuses was visible today. -- David Pilling (by the seaside in North West England) www.davidpilling.com From dkramb@badbear.com Fri, 20 Jan 2017 07:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb Subject: Iris cretensis Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:16:57 -0500 Iris cretensis is cold hardy for me in SW Ohio. I used to keep it potted & indoors in winter, but at the advice of iris guru Bill Shearer I've had it planted in the ground for about 16 years now in flower beds near the house. I've had it bloom on Christmas Day, New Years Day, and just about any other day in winter that happened to be warm & sunny. The main flush of bloom is always in February/March though. Dennis in Cincinnati From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Fri, 20 Jan 2017 07:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <69CCD473-C0FF-4422-8C0E-3FE1C976F9EA@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Iris cretensis and more Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 08:37:26 -0600 I garden in a harsher, colder climate than any of the previous reports. I grow Iris cretensis , I. unguiculares and I. lazica outdoors and have for years. These three species comprise the Series Unguiculares. Although they have persisted and increase slowly, they are just too marginal for routine bloom. Although all three HAVE bloomed for me, they do not all bloom the same year or every year. New growth is often killed by late hard freezes including flower buds. These are in a fairly exposed south facing site and may be more reliable in a sunny, but protected location in Zone 5/6. A garden challenge. Jim W. On Jan 20, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Dennis Kramb wrote: Iris cretensis is cold hardy for me in SW Ohio. I used to keep it potted & indoors in winter, but at the advice of iris guru Bill Shearer I've had it planted in the ground for about 16 years now in flower beds near the house. I've had it bloom on Christmas Day, New Years Day, and just about any other day in winter that happened to be warm & sunny. The main flush of bloom is always in February/March though. Dennis in Cincinnati Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 From llhorwitz@gmail.com Fri, 20 Jan 2017 07:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: Lola L Horwitz Subject: early yellows Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 10:04:04 -0500 This morning I saw the soft yellow hesitant bud of Eranthis hyemalis 'Moonlight'. It has always been the first of the aconites to emerge. I've been waiting for E. pinnatifida to reappear after too many years. from Lola in Brooklyn, NY From annamwal@interia.pl Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <8FB8D2F1426E480FBCE49D2571637631@MarekKomputer> From: Subject: The big one Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:19:05 +0100 Hi, I've just read an interesting article: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20170119-lots-of-corpse-flowers-bloomed-in-2016-and-nobody-knows-why May be of interest of big bulb lovers... Marek W. From ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Diane Whitehead Subject: The big one Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 20:52:34 -0800 From Tony Avent: Someone just wanted to create a story. Anyone who follows corpse lilies knows why so many flowered in 2016...more are being grown now. Since 1995, we've sold over 1000 of these and Louis Ricardello has sold as least that many. The flowerings of Amorphophallus titanum has been increasing dramatically since 2000...see chart below. 2016 - 46 flowers 2015 - 29 flowers 2014 - 31 flowers 2013 - 31 flowers 2012 - 28 flowers 2011 - 32 flowers 2010 - 23 flowers 2009 - 14 flowers 2008 - 32 flowers 2007 - 25 flowers 2006 - 21 flowers 2005 - 18 flowers 2004 - 16 flowers 2003 - 12 flowers 2002 - 11 flowers 2001 - 7 flowers 2000 - 5 flowers Tony Avent Proprietor Juniper Level Botanic Garden and Plant Delights Nursery From gardenbetter@gmail.com Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky Subject: Dividing Clivia miniata Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:44:05 -0500 I have a pretty crowded 5 gal bucket of Clivia miniata. When is best to divide it? Now? After flowering? I would like flowers this year as I missed them last year. (I was too late with the Measurol and they ended up snail food.) Shmuel Get a signature like this: Click here! From louisrichard11@gmail.com Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Louis Richard Subject: Dividing Clivia miniata Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 05:01:12 -0500 Did you have a look at this forum, Mr. Silinsky? http://www.cliviaforum.co.za/ Louis Matane, Quebec Zone 4b 2017-01-22 2:44 GMT-05:00 Shmuel Silinsky : > I have a pretty crowded 5 gal bucket of Clivia miniata. When is best to > divide it? Now? After flowering? I would like flowers this year as I missed > them last year. (I was too late with the Measurol and they ended up snail > food.) > > Shmuel > > Get a signature like this: Click here! > lzZXN0YW1wLmNvbS9lbWFpbC1pbnN0YWxsP3dzX25jaWQ9NjcyMjk0MDA4Jn > V0bV9zb3VyY2U9ZXh0ZW5zaW9uJnV0bV9tZWRpdW09ZW1haWwmdXRtX2NhbX > BhaWduPXByb21vXzU3MzI1Njg1NDg3Njk3OTIiLCAiZSI6ICI1NzMyNTY4NT > Q4NzY5NzkyIn0=&u=914774915280770> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <195039583.2243654.1485202048843@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: I've been hacked Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:07:28 +0000 (UTC) I've been hacked. There is a spurious message showing me as the sender making the rounds.Do not click on the link in the message.  Jim McKenney  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <6F804E56-D070-4F98-8A7E-E4E051CD7B61@islandnet.com> From: Diane Whitehead Subject: I've been hacked Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:07:25 -0800 Jim's message got caught by our server and I've just discarded it. It did not get distributed to PBS. Diane Whitehead On 2017-01-23, at 12:07 PM, Jim McKenney wrote: > I've been hacked. There is a spurious message showing me as the sender making the rounds.Do not click on the link in the message. > Jim McKenney > _______________________________________________ From lesleykayrichardson@gmail.com Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: Lesley Richardson Subject: I've been hacked Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:30:06 -0800 Actually, it did. I deleted it. Lesley On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Diane Whitehead wrote: > Jim's message got caught by our server and I've just discarded it. It did > not get distributed to PBS. > > Diane Whitehead > > > On 2017-01-23, at 12:07 PM, Jim McKenney wrote: > > > I've been hacked. There is a spurious message showing me as the sender > making the rounds.Do not click on the link in the message. > > Jim McKenney > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From david@davidpilling.com Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: I've been hacked Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:34:28 +0000 Hi Lesley, On 23/01/2017 21:30, Lesley Richardson wrote: > Actually, it did. I deleted it. > Lesley I beg to differ - no bad email from Jim was posted to the list. His warning message was posted. But it is likely that his hacked account was used to send bad emails direct to either people he knows or those who are members of the list. Another reason to be careful. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From lesleykayrichardson@gmail.com Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: Lesley Richardson Subject: I've been hacked Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:38:10 -0800 Ah, fair enough. I got two, one the other day. I knew to delete both. Lesley On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 1:34 PM, David Pilling wrote: > Hi Lesley, > > On 23/01/2017 21:30, Lesley Richardson wrote: > >> Actually, it did. I deleted it. >> Lesley >> > > I beg to differ - no bad email from Jim was posted to the list. His > warning message was posted. > > But it is likely that his hacked account was used to send bad emails > direct to either people he knows or those who are members of the list. > > Another reason to be careful. > > > > -- > David Pilling > www.davidpilling.com > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From garak@code-garak.de Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <33c0a410-1606-0730-fe42-99dd6c52ee5e@code-garak.de> From: Garak Subject: I've been hacked Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 23:29:16 +0100 I feel it's important to remind all of you that you don't need to be hacked to have dangerous emails be sent in your name - the sender is a completely unprotected area of the email protocol, the sending server is free to write there whatever it wants. So basically having your email address in a machine-readable form anywhere in the net - including this list - will open up possibilities for malevolent people or scripts. Martin Am 23.01.2017 um 21:07 schrieb Jim McKenney: > I've been hacked. There is a spurious message showing me as the sender making the rounds.Do not click on the link in the message. > Jim McKenney > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From anitaroselle@gmail.com Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: Anita Roselle Subject: I've been hacked Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:01:58 -0500 I have received that message on my computer in the last week as well. I deleted the message, I hope I haven't gotten a bug. On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Garak wrote: > I feel it's important to remind all of you that you don't need to be > hacked to have dangerous emails be sent in your name - the sender is a > completely unprotected area of the email protocol, the sending server is > free to write there whatever it wants. So basically having your email > address in a machine-readable form anywhere in the net - including this > list - will open up possibilities for malevolent people or scripts. > > Martin > > > Am 23.01.2017 um 21:07 schrieb Jim McKenney: > >> I've been hacked. There is a spurious message showing me as the sender >> making the rounds.Do not click on the link in the message. >> Jim McKenney >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki >> > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From janemcgary@earthlink.net Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <28bf17c7-e214-ce18-2a4c-da44adb9cbd1@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:veltheimia bulbs Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 10:37:17 -0800 The following inquiry came via the PBS website. Butchart Gardens in British Columbia is open to the public by admission and is popular with tourists for its lavish displays of bedding plants and colorful bulbs. If you can assist Jodi in finding some Veltheimia varieties, please write to her directly at the address below. Thanks, Jane McGary -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: PBS website contact:velthemia bulbs Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:24:53 -0500 From: Apache Reply-To: Jodi hill To: janemcgary@earthlink.net This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. Hi. I am looking for sources for velthemia bulbs for our gardens. We currently have pale pink fading to green one and a regular deep pink bracteata. I have been trying to find a source for more unusual colors like what is being produced out of Australia (Rosalba, yellows, white etc). The few nurseries I have sourced stated they don\'t ship to Canada. I thought I would see if there are any private collectors, or if you have contact with some contributing members who breed for new colors who would be willing to ship to Canada, and of course we are prepared to do all paperwork. I am newly in charge of our show greenhouse that the public views and would love to add some more rare specimens and collector plants. I feel it would be wonderful for a breeder to know their plants are being shown at the Butchart gardens. I hope you can help me track down some potential sources. On a side note I would be interested in other rare and unusual bulbs that are large enough to be on display but primarily ATM interested in the velthemia. Thanks so much Jodi Hill -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org From david@davidpilling.com Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: can you solve this mystery bulb... Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 01:08:26 +0000 Hi David Landa sent me some photos of a bulb he cannot identify, does anyone know what it is? http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/MysteryBulbs#landa or in short: https://goo.gl/mWn5PS The photos are all the information available now. I've asked for more and I'll post again if I get it. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From mdoming@gmail.com Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <5468B3FA-0A84-4CD3-B71F-A581FEE6ADC4@gmail.com> From: =?utf-8?Q?V=C3=ADctor_Men=C3=A9ndez_Dom=C3=ADnguez?= Subject: can you solve this mystery bulb... Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:22:57 -0600 could be a Rauhia sp.? http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Rauhia Regards !! Víctor > El 25/01/2017, a las 19:08, David Pilling escribió: > > Hi > > David Landa sent me some photos of a bulb he cannot identify, does anyone know what it is? > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/MysteryBulbs#landa > > or in short: > > https://goo.gl/mWn5PS > > The photos are all the information available now. I've asked for more and I'll post again if I get it. > > > -- > David Pilling > www.davidpilling.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Steven Hart Subject: Barbara Weintraub Mistry Bulb ID Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:40:29 +1000 Hi Barbara Weintraub your mystery bulb Zephyranthes / Habranthus. I have this one bought off eBay too & it is definitely a Habranthus. I think its either a dark form of Habranthus robusta, H. robusta "Pink Panther" or other unnamed hybrid. http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/00_others/Rain_BW0.jpg If you contact Ina Crossley she may help confirm its identity. -- Steven : ) Esk Queensland Australia Summer Zone 5 Winter Zone 10 From wpoulsen@pacbell.net Wed, 25 Jan 2017 23:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: Lee Poulsen Subject: can you solve this mystery bulb... Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:22:06 -0800 I agree. It looks very much like a Rauhia, possibly R. multiflora, especially in that first picture with the leaf that has two channels or indentations in it. Are the photos of the man out on the hillside taken in Peru? Because I think all Rauhia species are native to different parts of Peru. --Lee Poulsen Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > On Jan 25, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Víctor Menéndez Domínguez wrote: > > could be a Rauhia sp.? > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Rauhia > > Regards !! > > Víctor > >> El 25/01/2017, a las 19:08, David Pilling escribió: >> >> Hi >> >> David Landa sent me some photos of a bulb he cannot identify, does anyone know what it is? >> >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/MysteryBulbs#landa >> >> or in short: >> >> https://goo.gl/mWn5PS >> >> The photos are all the information available now. I've asked for more and I'll post again if I get it. >> >> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From thorne.fred@gmail.com Thu, 26 Jan 2017 09:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: From: Frederick Thorne Subject: can you solve this mystery bulb... Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 08:31:24 -0800 From what I can see it looks like something in the rauhia group. On Jan 25, 2017 5:09 PM, "David Pilling" wrote: > Hi > > David Landa sent me some photos of a bulb he cannot identify, does anyone > know what it is? > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/MysteryBulbs#landa > > or in short: > > https://goo.gl/mWn5PS > > The photos are all the information available now. I've asked for more and > I'll post again if I get it. > > > -- > David Pilling > www.davidpilling.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki > From david@davidpilling.com Thu, 26 Jan 2017 09:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <7fb00911-ceba-782a-483a-cd743def62eb@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: can you solve this mystery bulb... Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:01:14 +0000 Hi everyone, Thanks for the replies which I have passed on to David Landa, and which will be helpful to him. I suspect he is in South America, or connected with it. I'll let you know if I get any information back from him. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From klazina1@gmail.com Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Ina Crossley Subject: Barbara Weintraub Mistry Bulb ID Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 08:12:56 +1300 It is a Habranthus hybrid of some sort. It could be a Habranthus floryi, or a H. brachyandrus hybrid. It would be interesting to know if it comes true from seed. Ina On 26/01/2017 2:40 p.m., Steven Hart wrote: > Hi Barbara Weintraub your mystery bulb Zephyranthes / Habranthus. > I have this one bought off eBay too & it is definitely a Habranthus. > I think its either a dark form of Habranthus robusta, H. robusta "Pink > Panther" or other unnamed hybrid. > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/00_others/Rain_BW0.jpg > > If you contact Ina Crossley she may help confirm its identity. > > From othonna@gmail.com Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Hannon Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 168: Mystery bulb Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:36:15 -0800 It looks like Rauhia staminosa. What is the locality, elevation? The first thing a botanist will ask when presented with an identification request is "Where is it from?" *"The greatest service which can be rendered any country is to add an useful plant to its culture…" --**Thomas Jefferson* _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From janemcgary@earthlink.net Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <70e14e2b-f7b2-4171-f0f3-c1f696149b5e@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Freesia laxa color forms Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:12:19 -0800 The following message came via the PBS website. Those who enjoy growing Freesia laxa (syn. Lapeirousia laxa) may wish to write directly to Leland Montgomery at the address below. Jane McGary -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: PBS website contact:Hybrid Freesia laxa Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:16:52 -0500 From: Apache Reply-To: Leland Montgomery To: janemcgary@earthlink.net This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. I have been growing Freesia laxa ( called Lapeirousia laxa when I first started growingit) and Fressia laxa subsp azurea (called Lapeeirousia abysinnica I believe when I first started growing it) for over 20 years and they have naturally hybridized in my yard in New Orleans and have produced plants with flowers in numerous shades of pink and purple which are quite beautiful. I see on your webpage for freesia that a hybrid called Freesia laxa \'Sara Nobles\' is already known, but mine come in not just that color but also many others. (Amazing how many shades of pink and purple there are). I have photos of them but don\'t know how to attach them to this e mail. I would love to see them brought into commerce but have no idea how to go about doing that (not for profit but just to make sure they aren\'t lost if I move etc). I would appreciate hearing back from you at my e mail address so that then I can send you photos. Thanks -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org From hk@icarustrading.com Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:17:06 -0800 Message-Id: From: From HK Subject: Grocery store tomatoes taste like cardboard — Florida researchers are fixing that Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 23:36:48 -0500 I know it's not about bulbs- about it is an article of interest to all growers😊 http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-tomato-flavor-genes-20170126-story.html _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From youngs.aberdeen@btinternet.com Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <9e5f2972-d9a2-4e84-edd8-7ecdca1729d5@btinternet.com> From: youngs Subject: International Rock Gardener 85 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 20:34:04 +0000 A new year begins. This is the direct link to download IRG 85 http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2017Jan261485471226IRG85.pdf The IRG Team hopes to bring you an interesting mixture of subjects over the year to enthuse and perhaps educate you in the ways of the plants which form the basis of our growing interest. In this issue, a number of Saxifraga hybrids recently registered with Adrian Young the registrar of the Saxifraga Society, are formally introduced from the breeder David Walkey who sadly died earlier this month. Adrian also provides a short introduction to David Walkey’s hybrids. In conjunction with the printed journal of the SRGC, The Rock Garden, we are delighted to feature another contribution from Matt Topsfield to supplement his article in TRG 138 of January 2017 with a photo essay of narcissus found on his trip in the footsteps of John Blanchard, who will, we hope, be pleased to see how his previous travels still inspire plantsmen today. M. Young _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki From xerantheum@gmail.com Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: PBS website contact:Watsonia Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 08:25:29 -1000 If anyone can help Diana with watsonias, please contact her privately. Thanks, Nhu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Apache , Di Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:02 PM Subject: PBS website contact:Watsonia To: xerantheum@gmail.com Hi I came across a very old garden that has beautiful Watsonias growing. A magnificent soft salmon colour that I simply could not take my eyes off plus very soft pinks and lilacs. Am I able to purchase this soft salmon/ pinky couloured Warsonia anywhere please. Regards Diana From janemcgary@earthlink.net Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <57ade134-b82f-58c6-3d5e-2d4001e45e24@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Seeking Ron Heberle Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:10:45 -0800 An author has written to us asking for permission to use some photos from the wiki. Some are by Ron Heberle, who is no longer a PBS member, so I don't have his email address. Can anyone tell me what it is, please? Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator From david@davidpilling.com Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: Seeking Ron Heberle Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:56:30 +0000 Hi Jane, On 30/01/2017 18:10, Jane McGary wrote: > An author has written to us asking for permission to use some photos > from the wiki. Some are by Ron Heberle, who is no longer a PBS member, > so I don't have his email address. Can anyone tell me what it is, please? See his wiki page: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/RonHeberle alas he is no longer with us. But it tells you who to ask for photo permissions. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com From janemcgary@earthlink.net Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <0f181952-b12f-d4c3-acbe-ed31b6b6c276@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Offer of Amaryllis bulbs Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:33:19 -0800 The following came via the PBS website. I assume the writer is referring to Amaryllis belladonna, not Hippeastrum varieties. Anyone who lives in his area and would like to contact him about these, please write to him directly at the address below. Jane McGary -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: PBS website contact:sale/donation Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:36:06 -0500 From: Apache Reply-To: Charles Larson To: janemcgary@earthlink.net This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. hi Jane McGary i have an abundance of amaryllis that i need to thin out. I live in Hawthorne California and would like to pass some of these plants off to a good home. let me know if there is anyone in the area that would be interested. thanks charles Larson -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org