WAS - prohibited plants; NOW Who makes up these lists?

James Frelichowski via pbs pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Tue, 21 Mar 2017 05:06:28 PDT
I had an officer come and take my ponciris trifoliate that I got from ebay (and I asked seller first if it was ok to receive). But then we have pythons and now at least one cobra running amuck in Florida.Go figure.
James FrelichowskiCollege Station, TX 

    On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:58 AM, Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com> wrote:

 The official list used for legislation and prohibition in Spain actually
includes some native plants! It looks like the work of a desktop researcher
graduate student who cobbled together a somewhat random list of plants
declared invasive across wildly varying geographies and habitats...probably
those originally published in Spanish, many of which resulted from the
"work" of others cutting and pasting.

Thus native Catalan and Iberian species which were listed as problematic in
Argentina are now forbidden for planting in their own country of origin.

The world is insane.


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On 20 March 2017 at 23:25, James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> wrote:

> Dear Friends
>        These list are almost always ridiculous becuase they are made up
> by elected or volunteer plant lovers who are neither botanists, ecologists,
> taxonomists or any kind of scientist.  They wouldn't know a Dandelion from
> an Endive in many cases.
>        These list come together from rumors and newspapers of fabulous
> tales of some rare plant ‘taking over’ their back yard.
>        Go to one of the state ‘Native Plant  Facebook lists” and be
> amazed at the utter lack of knoweldge most people have about any plants and
> especially about what is “native”, ‘invasive”, “endangered” etc.
>        It is unfortunate when any local or state entity gives these
> imaginary lists some official status without any kid of scientiifc or
> botanical review. Happens all the time.
>        The proverbial ‘Grain of salt’ is needed big time when looking at
> these list, but some are hilariously wrong.          Just don’t count on
> the lists as scientific fact.              Jim W.
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Garak <garak@code-garak.de> wrote:
> at least Germany seems not hysterical about forbidden plants - for us it's
> mostly about the classical drugs - only trouble about that: it's actually
> quite difficult to get rid of Papaver somniferum in some areas, as many
> gardeners allow it for the pretty flowers and rather beautiful seed heads -
> and try to keep that seedmonster under control if both neighbors have it
> seeding freely...
> there is a EU list of 37 "unwanted" species, plants and animals, which
> definitely is not present in the awareness of the public, with the most
> known and obvious plant candidates would be once again 2 Heracleums,
> Eichornia Crassipes and, surprise, Kudzu. Most interesting for the List
> should be Lysichiton americanus. I have no idea if this is enforced in any
> way - I guess the racoons on the animal side of the list would choke to
> death from laughing at the idea anyone could get rid of them...
> --
> Martin
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