Calochortus minimus/nudus/hybrid/

Michael Drake drakee52@gmail.com
Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:59:10 PDT
Kipp,

One more flower for you.   This was seen in mi-April of this year at San
Bruno Mountain Park up at the top on the ridge trail.   Are they wild - I
cannot find anything that comes close.

Michael Drake

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Michael Drake <drakee52@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you!
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>   Flower size is a very plastic character - and this year's flowering
>> season has gotten a later-than-usual start so that character may not be
>> particularly informative for this season's bloom. A hybrid would be
>> possible considering he ranges of the 2 taxa overlap at Lassen... but the
>> flower itself looks like a somewhat pale C. nudus.
>>
>>
>>   Calochortus always show a broad variation within species when it comes
>> to flower color and size and form. In the case of flower color, the age of
>> the flower as well as temperatures when the flower is open can determine
>> coloration. I mention this because finding an atypical flower is often
>> expected for a species rather then necessarily being evidence for
>> hybridization. That said, hybrids are common too.
>>
>>
>>   I would wager Lassen hosts both C. minimus and C. nudus (and given the
>> similarity of the taxa, observations may have already been made but
>> mis-identified - this is very common for Calochortus).
>>
>>
>> -|<ipp
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of
>> Michael Drake <drakee52@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 5:51 PM
>> To: Pacific Bulb Society
>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Calochortus minimus/nudus/hybrid/
>>
>> Kipp,
>>
>> I live on the East Coast so I have no prior experience of either species.
>>  These plants appear more consistent with C minimus in size - very small -
>> and colour based on pictures and plant descriptions I have seen.
>>
>> The park biologist at Lassen suggested the possibility of a hybrid as he
>> indicated these two species are known to hybridise.
>>
>> Michael Drake
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> >
>> >   These look to be C. nudus to me. C. minimus is usually pale white. The
>> > ranges of both are certainly close to Lassen. What makes you think they
>> may
>> > be C. minimus or a hybrid?
>> >
>> >
>> > -|<ipp
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of
>> Michael
>> > Drake <drakee52@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 3:07 PM
>> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
>> > Subject: [pbs] Calochortus minimus/nudus/hybrid/
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > We recently had the good fortune to spend a few days at Mt Lassen
>> National
>> > Park in northern CA.
>> >
>> > On August 20th, on the trail from Cold Boiling Lake to Crumbaugh Lake, I
>> > saw the attached Mariposa Lilies.
>> >
>> > They were growing along a wooded, partially sunny trail a little below
>> > 7000'.
>> >
>> > As far as I can tell, they are C minimus, Sierra Mariposa Lily.
>> >
>> > However the plant list for the park only lists C. nudus, Naked Mariposa
>> > Lily.
>> >
>> > The park naturalist indicates that without a specimen, it is impossible
>> to
>> > tell whether this is a new species for the park (C minimus),
>> > or a hybrid of C minmus and C nudus.
>> >
>> > Do any of you have any thoughts on this?   I could not find anything
>> > published online about hybrids of these species and how to identify
>> them.
>> >
>> > Any help would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Michael Drake
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