Old established plantings have been flowering here in Oakland (Bay Area) for the past two weeks, at least. Newer plantings are just now showing buds above ground. Sylvia Sykora > On Aug 17, 2018, at 4:52 PM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sternbergia bulbs (makimoff76@gmail.com) > 2. Re: strange grafting (James Waddick) > 3. Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks (Andrew) > 4. Re: Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks (J R Carpenter) > 5. Re: Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks (Kristin Jakob) > 6. Re: Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks (Mary Sue Ittner) > 7. What triggers Ammocharis longifolia bloom? (M Gastil-Buhl) > 8. Was Amaryllis emergence -NOW Lycoris emergence (James Waddick) > 9. Re: Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks (,) > 10. Re: Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks (Carl Pendray) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 06:06:05 -0700 > From: makimoff76@gmail.com > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Sternbergia bulbs > Message-ID: <BF1156BD-59CC-41F3-9C53-C9FC2B7CBD1D@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > illahe Rare Bulbs ships to Canada, unfortunately for this year we are sold out of Sternbergia sicula as well as lutea, keep an eye on the blog site at http://www.illaherarebulbs.blogspot.com/ as the availability list is usually out mid to late summer. > > Best, > Mark > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 14, 2018, at 6:22 AM, ERIKA SCHROEDERSECKER via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> Does anyone in Canada know of a source for Sternbergia sp. bulbs? My overseas order of these fell through due to Narcissus fly. Erika >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 09:03:44 -0500 > From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] strange grafting > Message-ID: <E04A668F-72CC-4567-8E70-4740C0DCB983@kc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Dear F C and all, > > In the video it seemed clear that bulbs were cleaned, sliced, cooked and eaten. And they were growing seedlings by the hundreds. Must be a commercial crop where ever this video was taken. Jim > > > > On Aug 17, 2018, at 4:10 AM, Fierycloud via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Hello:I don't know if the species were cultivated for food, but the species is sometimes heard and told as a kind of traditional herb in Taiwan, too.(Though it is not on the Pharmacopoeia of R.O.C. now.) And the video is about the herb cultivating skill. > There are 2 varieties listed on the Pharmacopoeia of the People's Republic of China 2015 > Chonglou PARIDIS RHIZOMAParis polyphylla Smith var. yunnanensis ?Franch.?Hand. -Mazz.Paris polyphylla Smith var. chinensis ?Franch.? > FierycloudTaiwan > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 08:13:16 -0700 > From: Andrew <andrew@avonia.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks > Message-ID: <FEF074DA-A50C-4AFE-B97B-512C5A6ADF68@avonia.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > This is the time of year when there are usually reports of the A. belladonna in bloom. So, I wonder why there has been only one so far, particularly from central and northern California. In the southern areas of the state, except for a very cautious offering last year after heavy spring rains, it has not bloomed at all for years. With me, blooms appear only if the bulbs are watered heavily during the summer. The lack of rains has caused the old, large clumps to shrink and desiccate. When and how much they bloom in this area has nothing to do with temperature. It is dictated by water. > > Andrew > San Diego > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:43:05 +0100 > From: J R Carpenter <ralph.carpenter1@googlemail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks > Message-ID: <k3jc9gmyhbw6ugonxjug14fg.1534520585560@email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Almost flowering here in Kent, UK. > > On 17 August 2018, at 16:13, Andrew <andrew@avonia.com> wrote: > > This is the time of year when there are usually reports of the A. belladonna in bloom. So, I wonder why there has been only one so far, particularly from central and northern California. In the southern areas of the state, except for a very cautious offering last year after heavy spring rains, it has not bloomed at all for years. With me, blooms appear only if the bulbs are watered heavily during the summer. The lack of rains has caused the old, large clumps to shrink and desiccate. When and how much they bloom in this area has nothing to do with temperature. It is dictated by water. > > Andrew > San Diego > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 10:57:47 -0700 > From: Kristin Jakob <kristinjakob@att.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks > Message-ID: <D40C3AA6-FEF3-467A-9057-C0523C170093@att.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Several large colonies are in full flower now in Mill Valley, N California. In my own garden one plant is in bud, others lagging. > Kristin Jakob > Marin County, CA > On Aug 17, 2018, at 8:13 AM, Andrew wrote: > >> This is the time of year when there are usually reports of the A. belladonna in bloom. So, I wonder why there has been only one so far, particularly from central and northern California. In the southern areas of the state, except for a very cautious offering last year after heavy spring rains, it has not bloomed at all for years. With me, blooms appear only if the bulbs are watered heavily during the summer. The lack of rains has caused the old, large clumps to shrink and desiccate. When and how much they bloom in this area has nothing to do with temperature. It is dictated by water. >> >> Andrew >> San Diego >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 11:34:42 -0700 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks > Message-ID: <44d0d9c0-266a-19f6-f7b7-5708484944e6@mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On a drive yesterday up the Mendocino Coast, California, we saw so many > in flower you'd think they were native. In my shady garden where I have > a lot planted with not many flowering each year, one spike got stepped > on so it is gone and one other has appeared, but the flowers have not > opened. But most where I live have been flowering for some time. If they > decide to flower in my garden it is always much later than the ones > growing in the sunshine. Besides water I think good light is crucial. > Many of those growing along the roadside or where people have planted > them do not get summer water, but some may get extra runoff from roads > when it is raining and we get more rain than Andrew does in Southern > California although this year was the lowest amount in the 29 years we > have lived on the coast. It was more evenly distributed than the year > before and that helped I am sure. > > Mary Sue > >> This is the time of year when there are usually reports of the A. >> belladonna in bloom. So, I wonder why there has been only one so far, >> particularly from central and northern California. In the southern >> areas of the state, except for a very cautious offering last year >> after heavy spring rains, it has not bloomed at all for years. With >> me, blooms appear only if the bulbs are watered heavily during the >> summer. The lack of rains has caused the old, large clumps to shrink >> and desiccate. When and how much they bloom in this area has nothing >> to do with temperature. It is dictated by water. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:07:51 -0700 > From: M Gastil-Buhl <gastil.buhl@gmail.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] What triggers Ammocharis longifolia bloom? > Message-ID: > <CALGksbC2uSmaP0ZEXSEMhAbToRtcXf+tgMR9-hXZ5JO=pxqqaw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I received an *Ammocharis longifolia* (formerly *Cybistetes longifolia*) > bulb from Mary Sue via the BX in 2013. At that time it was already 7 years > old. A wiki photo shows this bulb as received. > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > I potted it in a lean medium of pumice, coarse sand and compost, with a > topping of coarse sand, in an 8" terracotta clay pot. It grows leaves in > the winter (what would normally be our rain season), with supplemental > irrigation. I let it dry in summer and the leaves senesce. I keep the pot > in a sunny location, with partial shade in afternoon. It has been exposed > to occasional light frosts each winter. It has not bloomed for me. > > Can those who grow this species offer advice what culture has encouraged it > to bloom for them? Should I place it where the pot will receive more baking > sun heat during the summer? I doubted I should water it at all when it is > dormant, but a possible response to late summer rain is mentioned on the > wiki page. Or perhaps it needs more winter chill? > > A query to GBIF shows observations in the west coast of South Africa > mostly. But even within that region climate varies. Relatively dry and > sparsely vegetated landscapes appear in the photographs on GBIF, both in > bloom and in leaf (at separate times.) The leaves in the GBIF photos are > wider than my bulb's leaves. > > This Veld&Flora article by John Manning says early autumn rains trigger > this species to bloom. Fire is not mentioned. > http://pza.sanbi.org/sites/default/… > I garden in a climate more mild than the Richtersveld. > > Thank you, > Gastil > Santa Barbara, California, > maybe zone 9b or 10a or Sunset 24 plus frost, > where Amaryllis belladonna are pink bloom rockets now. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:31:35 -0500 > From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Was Amaryllis emergence -NOW Lycoris emergence > Message-ID: <798F2FED-4CB6-4C4F-BF4D-9F22F300A93B@kc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Dear PBSers, > > Although I cannot grow any Amaryllis here ( ok I bloomed one bulb once), they are often confused with the other Naked Ladies, Lycoris squamigera. > > Here in Kansas City we have had extreme heat and continuing "Extreme Drought? (official designation) and emergence of flowering stems has been late, fewer and shorter than usual. In normal years a heavy late summer rain will initiate lots of bloom stalks on L. squamigera and the other species I grow. Not nearly so this year. They are struggling and some have only managed stalks to 8 or 9 inches instead of the usual 30 inches. Over all I?d estimated fewer than half of bulbs have or will bloom. > > Next year ? Or will it just be hotter and drier ? Jim W. > > > > > > > On Aug 17, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> wrote: > > On a drive yesterday up the Mendocino Coast, California, we saw so many in flower you'd think they were native. In my shady garden where I have a lot planted with not many flowering each year, one spike got stepped on so it is gone and one other has appeared, but the flowers have not opened. But most where I live have been flowering for some time. If they decide to flower in my garden it is always much later than the ones growing in the sunshine. Besides water I think good light is crucial. Many of those growing along the roadside or where people have planted them do not get summer water, but some may get extra runoff from roads when it is raining and we get more rain than Andrew does in Southern California although this year was the lowest amount in the 29 years we have lived on the coast. It was more evenly distributed than the year before and that helped I am sure. > > Mary Sue > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 17:39:05 -0400 > From: "," <theladygardens@aol.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks > Message-ID: <16549d3d605-1e9d-191cf@webjas-vac138.srv.aolmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I have a long swath of them, they are starting to bloom. The are in some shade under elm trees, don't get much water at all. The few in other spots where they are in sun have bloomed but those in the large stretch are just starting to bloom. Those nearest the edge of the line of elm trees get more sun and open first. When I notice the first few blooming, I always water the rest which seems to help them come along. All of them in bloom is quite a sight to see. > Carolyn in Los Gatos CA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew <andrew@avonia.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Sent: Fri, Aug 17, 2018 8:13 am > Subject: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks > > This is the time of year when there are usually reports of the A. belladonna in bloom. So, I wonder why there has been only one so far, particularly from central and northern California. In the southern areas of the state, except for a very cautious offering last year after heavy spring rains, it has not bloomed at all for years. With me, blooms appear only if the bulbs are watered heavily during the summer. The lack of rains has caused the old, large clumps to shrink and desiccate. When and how much they bloom in this area has nothing to do with temperature. It is dictated by water. > > Andrew > San Diego > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:52:19 -0700 > From: Carl Pendray <pendray100@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks > Message-ID: <249E4247-BAA5-4FFD-9D8E-92DF59B4F049@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > My amaryllis belladonna are up about 6 inches > Calvor Palmateer > Victoria BC. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 17, 2018, at 2:39 PM, , via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> I have a long swath of them, they are starting to bloom. The are in some shade under elm trees, don't get much water at all. The few in other spots where they are in sun have bloomed but those in the large stretch are just starting to bloom. Those nearest the edge of the line of elm trees get more sun and open first. When I notice the first few blooming, I always water the rest which seems to help them come along. All of them in bloom is quite a sight to see. >> Carolyn in Los Gatos CA >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andrew <andrew@avonia.com> >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> Sent: Fri, Aug 17, 2018 8:13 am >> Subject: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna 1st emergence of stalks >> >> This is the time of year when there are usually reports of the A. belladonna in bloom. So, I wonder why there has been only one so far, particularly from central and northern California. In the southern areas of the state, except for a very cautious offering last year after heavy spring rains, it has not bloomed at all for years. With me, blooms appear only if the bulbs are watered heavily during the summer. The lack of rains has caused the old, large clumps to shrink and desiccate. When and how much they bloom in this area has nothing to do with temperature. It is dictated by water. >> >> Andrew >> San Diego >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 18, Issue 17 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…