Lesley Richardson
Wed, 14 Feb 2018 09:59:49 PST
It is edible:…

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Lee Poulsen <> wrote:

> This was mentioned a few years ago, but in my suburban southern California
> climate, the absolute worst weed plant in my pots, or in the ground, is
> Nothoscordum inodorum. I call it the devil plant because nothing seems to
> stop it. First it reproduces both by multiple small black seeds that are
> produced by multiple waves of flowers that ripen incredibly quickly. It
> flowers off and on during almost any season of the year in this area,
> whenever it gets water. It also produces hundreds of tiny brown
> rice-grain-sized daughter bulblets, any one of which can eventually produce
> another mother bulb with hundreds of its own tiny bulblets. These bulblets
> are almost impossible to see in soil if one or more gets left behind. It
> grows in any kind of soil. And for some reason, it can go dormant in any
> season when it doesn’t receive water. So whether it gets into the pot of a
> summer dormant bulb or a winter dormant bulb, it just starts growing again
> whenever I start watering that pot. Even tried Roundup on it. It kills the
> top leaves, but often does nothing to the mother bulb or makes it go
> dormant for a year. If it does kill the mother bulb, it doesn’t seem to
> affect the daughter bulblets, so they proceed to grow instead. Apparently
> in places where it freezes every winter, they are nicely behaved plants.
> But for me, all it takes is one seed or one bulblet getting into one of my
> pots to start a whole new infestation. The only solution I’ve found that
> works is to discard the entire pot of soil into a garbage bin and remove by
> hand the desired bulb or plant that was growing in that pot, carefully
> removing all soil in and around the desired bulb or roots of the desired
> plant, discarding that soil, too, (to make sure not a single tiny bulblet
> grain remains hidden or tucked away somewhere. Then replant the desired
> bulb or plant in fresh potting medium. In the ground, I take giant
> shovelfuls of soil all around and including the infestation location, and I
> literally discard all that soil in the trash. Then I watch that location
> like a hawk in case any of the rice-grain bulblets somehow escaped during
> the discarding process. Can you tell that I intensely dislike this species.
> Shmuel, I think this would be a horrible weed in your climate, too. I’ve
> heard that it sometimes shows up in some seed exchanges labelled as some
> other species.
> --Lee Poulsen
> Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a
> Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m
> > On Feb 14, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Jane McGary <>
> wrote:
> >
> > As one of probably a few PBS members who add Bellevalia species to our
> collections, I encourage Shmuel to send seeds, but mention in a note that
> it self-sows readily.  I don't have any Bellevalia self-sowing here, though
> I have one in the open garden, but species in its relatives Muscari and
> Hyacinthoides are pests in this climate, especially the latter (the dreaded
> "Spanish bluebell"). Oncostemma (Scilla) peruviana is invasive in
> California but never self-sows here in northern Oregon; it's valuable for
> cutting. Some people I know here regard Cyclamen hederifolium as a pest,
> but it's fine where I have it, in a spot where almost nothing else will
> grow.
> >
> > It's a good idea to grow unfamiliar plants in a pot for a while to
> evaluate their behavior. I haven't annoyed myself with bulbs I introduced
> (yet), but some rock garden perennials have behaved badly (e.g. Scutellaria
> spp., Aethionema spp.). The worst invasives in my bulb house are Oxalis
> obtusa and Narcissus cantabricus, N. romieuxii, and their hybrids.
> Fortunately the Oxalis is not hardy in the open garden here; that's all we
> need, another Oxalis weed.
> >
> > Jane McGary
> >
> > Portland, Oregon, USA
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/14/2018 1:01 AM, Shmuel Silinsky wrote:
> >> Obviously "invasive" depends on where the plant is from and where it is
> >> grown. Some plants self sow or "naturalize" but never become a problem.
> Duh.
> >>
> >> So , inspired by the thread about no-care bulbs to be (hopefully) added
> to
> >> the wiki, I wonder if a "potentially invasive" section would be good? I
> >> know the answer is that everyone is busy and strapped, but the wiki is
> open
> >> and write to the wiki people. : )
> >>
> >> Case in point, Bellevalia flexuosa, is a common native here in Israel
> and I
> >> call it a weed, but many may want this. Is this a plant that others want
> >> and I can send to the BX or SX or is it a horrible scourge that would be
> >> unleashed into gardens.  Bottom line, do I throw them out or send them
> on?
> >>
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