pbs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 22

Nancy Chu nance.chu@gmail.com
Sat, 27 Jan 2018 09:29:56 PST
 Such a gorgeous plant. Anyone knows source to C. canariensis seeds ?

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>    1. Re: Canarina (Erik Van Lennep)
>    2. Re: Canarina (Eugene Zielinski)
>    3. Re: Canarina (Pamela Harlow)
>    4. Re: Canarina canariensis (oooOIOooo)
>    5. Re: Missing E-mails (Lee Poulsen)
>    6. Re: Canarina canariensis (Matt Mattus)
>    7. Re: Canarina canariensis (James Waddick)
>    8. Re: Canarina canariensis (Peter Tallbo)
>    9. Re: Canarina canariensis (Erik Van Lennep)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:20:44 +0100
> From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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> ?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights?
>
> Erik van Lennep
> Barcelona, Spain
>
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:29:39 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: Eugene Zielinski <eez55@earthlink.net>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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> I received C. canariensis seeds for a commercial source, and they
> germinated within a month at warm temperatures (70-75 F; 21-24 C).  So,
> they are not affected by dry storage and are probably viable for at least
> one year.
>
> Eugene Zielinski
> Prescott Valley, Arizona
> USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com>
> >Sent: Jan 25, 2018 9:20 AM
> >To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> >Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
> >
> >?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights?
> >
> >Erik van Lennep
> >Barcelona, Spain
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 08:40:10 -0800
> From: Pamela Harlow <pamela@polson.com>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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> Annie's Annuals has Canarina now, $14.95 for a 4" pot.
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com>
> wrote:
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> > ?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights?
> >
> > Erik van Lennep
> > Barcelona, Spain
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:04:02 -0500
> From: oooOIOooo <oooOIOooo@protonmail.ch>
> To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net"
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> Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
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> Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no
> longer.
>
> I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was
> saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to
> a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the
> bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a
> fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most
> popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the
> spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers
> looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high
> numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory....
>
> Leo Martin
> Phoenix Arizona USA
> Zone 9?
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:09:48 -0800
> From: Lee Poulsen <wpoulsen@pacbell.net>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Missing E-mails
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> Hi Al,
>
> Thanks for the bulbs! Didn?t know you would send more than one, and
> they?re big! I gathered a few items for you last weekend but didn?t get
> them sent off, got busy at work, and so they?ve been sitting there. But I
> plan to package them and ship them off to you this weekend.
>
> ?Lee
>
> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 7:23 AM, Albert Stella <amstella1017@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > That?s it?!
> > I think I can make that happen. I don?t have any smaller bulbs left but
> I can send you a big one if that works?
> > Shoot me your mailing address, I?ll have it out by tomorrow.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:18 AM, David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Fred,
> >>
> >>> On 16/01/2018 14:15, Fred Biasella wrote:
> >>> I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but for some goofy
> reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:28:11 -0500
> From: Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Cc: oooOIOooo <oooOIOooo@protonmail.ch>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
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> I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if
> necc.
>
> Finding Canarina seed can be challenging.
>
> Note this:
>
> Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog
> aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that
> purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the
> UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off.
>
> Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M
> remains a different company, shipping only to the EU.
>
> Worth noting that Garden?s Alive  also own a library of other former seed
> and nursery companies we were once familiar with  including Weeks Roses,
> Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few
> as well as Audubon Workshop catalog.
>
> Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in
> 2010.
> A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and
> attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to
> turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a
> rather different company today than it was 30 years ago.
>
>
> Parks too was bought out by a
>
> On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" <
> pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
>     Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no
> longer.
>
>     I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was
> saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to
> a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the
> bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a
> fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most
> popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the
> spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers
> looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high
> numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory....
>
>     Leo Martin
>     Phoenix Arizona USA
>     Zone 9?
>
>     Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:46:06 -0600
> From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
> Message-ID: <55CF8D70-CD7A-4C93-B4ED-3B9900031C67@kc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> Dear PBS friends,
>
>         Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous
> plant.  I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here
> where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over
> night.  Even if dormant.
>
>         My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it
> was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny
> afternoon.
>
>         Then there?s finding a plant. Yes Annie?s Annuals lists it, but
> unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping
> making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time.
>
>         And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google
> search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day.
>
>                 Many thanks for all the input and cultural details.
>              Best            Jim W.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net> wrote:
>
> I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if
> necc.
>
> Finding Canarina seed can be challenging.
>
> Note this:
>
> Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog
> aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that
> purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the
> UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off.
>
> Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M
> remains a different company, shipping only to the EU.
>
> Worth noting that Garden?s Alive  also own a library of other former seed
> and nursery companies we were once familiar with  including Weeks Roses,
> Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few
> as well as Audubon Workshop catalog.
>
> Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in
> 2010.
> A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and
> attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to
> turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a
> rather different company today than it was 30 years ago.
>
>
> Parks too was bought out by a
>
> On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" <
> pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
>    Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no
> longer.
>
>    I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was
> saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to
> a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the
> bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a
> fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most
> popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the
> spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers
> looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high
> numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory....
>
>    Leo Martin
>    Phoenix Arizona USA
>    Zone 9?
>
>    Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email.
>    _______________________________________________
>    pbs mailing list
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> USA
> Phone     816-746-1949
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:05:03 +0100
> From: Peter Tallbo <ptallbo@gmail.com>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
> Message-ID:
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>
> There are seeds available here :
>
> http://rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp/…
> CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1
>
> and they are shipping to USA.
>
> Regards
> Peter Tallbo
> Sweden
>
> 2018-01-25 21:46 GMT+01:00 James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>:
>
> > Dear PBS friends,
> >
> >         Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous
> > plant.  I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here
> > where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over
> > night.  Even if dormant.
> >
> >         My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it
> > was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny
> > afternoon.
> >
> >         Then there?s finding a plant. Yes Annie?s Annuals lists it, but
> > unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping
> > making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time.
> >
> >         And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google
> > search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day.
> >
> >                 Many thanks for all the input and cultural details.
> >              Best            Jim W.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if
> > necc.
> >
> > Finding Canarina seed can be challenging.
> >
> > Note this:
> >
> > Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog
> > aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that
> > purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from
> the
> > UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off.
> >
> > Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M
> > remains a different company, shipping only to the EU.
> >
> > Worth noting that Garden?s Alive  also own a library of other former seed
> > and nursery companies we were once familiar with  including Weeks Roses,
> > Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few
> > as well as Audubon Workshop catalog.
> >
> > Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital
> in
> > 2010.
> > A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and
> > attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to
> > turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a
> > rather different company today than it was 30 years ago.
> >
> >
> > Parks too was bought out by a
> >
> > On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" <
> > pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of
> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> >    Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no
> > longer.
> >
> >    I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was
> > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold
> to
> > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the
> > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a
> > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is
> most
> > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the
> > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers
> > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high
> > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory....
> >
> >    Leo Martin
> >    Phoenix Arizona USA
> >    Zone 9?
> >
> >    Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email.
> >    _______________________________________________
> >    pbs mailing list
> >    pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> >    http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
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> >
> > Dr. James Waddick
> > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd
> > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711
> > USA
> > Phone     816-746-1949
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > pbs mailing list
> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
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> >
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 10:04:56 +0100
> From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> ?It also shows up in the seed exchanges for some of the alpine gardening
> societies.
>
> erik?
>
> ?..........?
>
> On 25 January 2018 at 22:05, Peter Tallbo <ptallbo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There are seeds available here :
> >
> > http://rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp/…
> > CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1
> >
> > and they are shipping to USA.
> >
> > Regards
> > Peter Tallbo
> > Sweden
> >
> >
>
>
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