From bulbexchange@gmail.com Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Albert Stella Subject: BX/SX Donations Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 14:36:45 -0500 Hello All, With the new year will begin a new round of BX/SXs. All future donations can be sent to: Albert Stella 4403 Graceland Ct. Raleigh, NC 27606 USA Overseas donors please contact me at bulbexchange@gmail.com before sending your donations. Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Al _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From bulbexchange@gmail.com Tue, 02 Jan 2018 12:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <392022D4-76A6-4125-9988-AB6DCE4C7F58@gmail.com> From: Albert Stella Subject: BX 434 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 14:49:01 -0500 Dear All, The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at bulbexchange@gmail.com Include "BX 434” in the subject line. SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS, too. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 – $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE. Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS, please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Albert Stella 4403 Graceland Ct. Raleigh, NC 27606 USA Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations. Non US donors should contact Al for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Al’s email address: bulbexchange@gmail.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! From Mike Mace (corms): Moraea aristata Moraea GK1212 (Moraea villosa form C x Moraea villosa form F) Moraea villosa form A Moraea villosa form B Moraea MM12-55 (M. tricolor x M. macronyx) cormlets Moraea MM12-67 (M. villosa form B x M. villosa form D) Moraea GK 1303_6 (Moraea MM09-02c x M. villosa form D) Moraea GK1213 (M. villosa form F offspring) Moraea GK1303 (Moraea MM09-02c x M. villosa form D) Moraea GK1303_7 (Moraea MM09-02c x M. villosa form D) Moraea GK1211 (M. villosa form E x M. villosa form C) Moraea GK1329 (Moraea MM09-02c x M. atropunctata) Moraea GK1305 (M. villosa form A x M. villosa form D) From William Hoffman (All seeds): Hippeastrum harrisonii ex. Jim Shields Zephyranthes atamasco ex. Wake Co., NC Habranthus brachyandrus Lilium formosanum Hippeastrum striatum ‘Soltão’ ex. Mauro Peixoto Thanks Mike and William!! Good luck! Al Stella Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From sd142@iprimus.com.au Tue, 02 Jan 2018 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Shaun Douglas Subject: BX 434 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 07:55:46 +1100 Hippeastrum harrisonii ex. Jim Shields Zephyranthes atamasco ex. Wake Hippeastrum striatum ‘Soltão’ ex. Mauro Peixoto Shaun douglas 19/83a Lincoln road Croydon, vic Australia 3136 iPhone 6 Shaund > On 3 Jan 2018, at 6:49 am, Albert Stella wrote: > > Hippeastrum harrisonii ex. Jim Shields > Zephyranthes atamasco ex. Wake Co., NC > Habranthus brachyandrus > Lilium formosanum > Hippeastrum striatum ‘Soltão’ ex. Mauro Peixoto _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From joycemiller843@gmail.com Tue, 02 Jan 2018 14:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <5a4bfc18.d70f620a.f2012.e401@mx.google.com> From: Joyce Miller Subject: BX/SX Donations Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 13:39:35 -0800 Hi Albert, We need your private email. Best, Joyce Miller Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Albert Stella Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 11:36 AM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: [pbs] BX/SX Donations Hello All, With the new year will begin a new round of BX/SXs. All future donations can be sent to: Albert Stella 4403 Graceland Ct. Raleigh, NC 27606 USA Overseas donors please contact me at bulbexchange@gmail.com before sending your donations. Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Al _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From clcox@ucdavis.edu Tue, 02 Jan 2018 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <114B8B04-938D-4DFA-85E1-5E01C94A7D38@ucdavis.edu> From: Chad Cox Subject: Excess Gladiolus (commercial hybrids) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 14:24:53 -0800 Dear fellow PBS members, A few years ago I made the mistake of planting a bunch of what were labeled as "mixed Gladiolus" in a large flower bed that I constructed. The bulbs were given to me as a gift and I am not certain of their origin, but do know they were likely purchased from a commercial bulb company. I just dug out this bed and literally have hundreds and hundreds of these bulbs and I'm not interested in filling all of the rest of my land up with them so I was wondering if anybody might be interested in some? I know they are probably rather boring comparatively speaking to what most of us are usually interested in, but I figured I would ask. I am willing to send them to anyone who wants them for only the cost of shipping. I would donate them but I'm sure the cost would be prohibitive and interest in them minimal. I have attached a couple of images to give you an idea of the flower colors but there's no way I can guarantee what any of them are individually. Please contact me privately if you are inter ested. Chad Cox -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Sarah Sarah Sutcliff Sutcliff2009@gmail.com (716)812-8395 (716)812-8063   Original Message   From: Chad Cox Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 5:25 PM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Reply To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: [pbs] Excess Gladiolus (commercial hybrids) Dear fellow PBS members, A few years ago I made the mistake of planting a bunch of what were labeled as "mixed Gladiolus" in a large flower bed that I constructed. The bulbs were given to me as a gift and I am not certain of their origin, but do know they were likely purchased from a commercial bulb company. I just dug out this bed and literally have hundreds and hundreds of these bulbs and I'm not interested in filling all of the rest of my land up with them so I was wondering if anybody might be interested in some? I know they are probably rather boring comparatively speaking to what most of us are usually interested in, but I figured I would ask. I am willing to send them to anyone who wants them for only the cost of shipping. I would donate them but I'm sure the cost would be prohibitive and interest in them minimal. I have attached a couple of images to give you an idea of the flower colors but there's no way I can guarantee what any of them are individually. Please contact me privately if you are inter ested. Chad Cox -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 731135 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image2.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 813658 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Sent from my iPhone Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From michaelcmace@gmail.com Tue, 02 Jan 2018 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <010301d3841b$deb00f60$9c102e20$@gmail.com> From: "Michael Mace" Subject: BX 434 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 14:48:53 -0800 Thanks, Albert, for taking over the exchange! Here's a bit more information about the Moraea corms I sent to this exchange, plus links to some photos. Plant the corms as soon as you receive them -- they are winter-growing and should have been in the ground already (sorry about that). Most of these are small offsets that will need another year of growth before they bloom. The plants marked GK are from noted Iris breeder Garry Knipe, who is also experimenting in Moraea. Moraea villosa color forms, and crosses between M. villosa forms: Moraea villosa form A http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.htm l Moraea villosa form B http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.htm l GK 1211 (Moraea villosa form E X form C) Pastel tepals and brightly-colored eyes http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-50.html GK 1212 (Moraea villosa form C X form F) Pale violet tepals, some flowers have a yellow ring around the central eye http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-12-59.html GK 1213 (offspring of Moraea villosa form F) White tepals with light to dark blue eyes http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-64.html GK 1305 (Moraea villosa form A X form D) Most are pale violet with brightly-colored eyes http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-13-35.html MM 12-67 (Moraea villosa form B X D) My favorite villosa cross, this one has a huge variety of pastel tepal colors and bright eyes. http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-67.html Moraea hybrids: MM 12-55 (Moraea tricolor X macronyx) Yellow with brownish-red streaks. Cormlets. http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/06/moraea-mm-12-55.html GK 1303 (MM 09-02c X villosa form D) Pastel tepals in various colors, with light to dark blue eyes http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-13-08.html GK 1303_6 Same as above but with white tepals GK 1329 (MM 09-02c X M atropunctata) Most of these have white tepals and dark eyes, but occasionally there's something very different http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-13-81.html Let me know if you have any questions. Mike San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From janjeddeloh@gmail.com Tue, 02 Jan 2018 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <2AFDCC2A-B2BE-4D62-8BF2-B43EA421EC97@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh Subject: BX 434 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 15:01:58 -0800 Michael they are gorgeous plants but not hardy for me. Also your first two links don’t work. Jan Jeddeloh > On Jan 2, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Michael Mace wrote: > > Thanks, Albert, for taking over the exchange! > > Here's a bit more information about the Moraea corms I sent to this > exchange, plus links to some photos. > > Plant the corms as soon as you receive them -- they are winter-growing and > should have been in the ground already (sorry about that). > > Most of these are small offsets that will need another year of growth before > they bloom. The plants marked GK are from noted Iris breeder Garry Knipe, > who is also experimenting in Moraea. > > > Moraea villosa color forms, and crosses between M. villosa forms: > > Moraea villosa form A > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.htm > l > > Moraea villosa form B > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.htm > l > > GK 1211 (Moraea villosa form E X form C) Pastel tepals and brightly-colored > eyes > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-50.html > > GK 1212 (Moraea villosa form C X form F) Pale violet tepals, some flowers > have a yellow ring around the central eye > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-12-59.html > > GK 1213 (offspring of Moraea villosa form F) White tepals with light to dark > blue eyes > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-64.html > > GK 1305 (Moraea villosa form A X form D) Most are pale violet with > brightly-colored eyes > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-13-35.html > > MM 12-67 (Moraea villosa form B X D) My favorite villosa cross, this one has > a huge variety of pastel tepal colors and bright eyes. > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-67.html > > > Moraea hybrids: > > MM 12-55 (Moraea tricolor X macronyx) Yellow with brownish-red streaks. > Cormlets. > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/06/moraea-mm-12-55.html > > GK 1303 (MM 09-02c X villosa form D) Pastel tepals in various colors, with > light to dark blue eyes > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-13-08.html > > GK 1303_6 Same as above but with white tepals > > GK 1329 (MM 09-02c X M atropunctata) Most of these have white tepals and > dark eyes, but occasionally there's something very different > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-13-81.html > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > Mike > San Jose, CA > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From sbourrie@verizon.net Tue, 02 Jan 2018 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <1970582106.7045629.1514934925835@mail.yahoo.com> From: Sally Bourrie Subject: Excess Gladiolus (commercial hybrids) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 23:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Dear Chad, I am not a PBS member; I am only on the listserv, but I would be grateful to receive some of your bulbs, if any remain after members respond. I live in Maryland And I think it is probably too cold to send them now.  Thank you for your consideration.  Sincerely, Sally Bourrie Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Chad Cox wrote: Dear fellow PBS members, A few years ago I made the mistake of planting a bunch of what were labeled as "mixed Gladiolus" in a large flower bed that I constructed. The bulbs were given to me as a gift and I am not certain of their origin, but do know they were likely purchased from a commercial bulb company. I just dug out this bed and literally have hundreds and hundreds of these bulbs and I'm not interested in filling all of the rest of my land up with them so I was wondering if anybody might be interested in some? I know they are probably rather boring comparatively speaking to what most of us are usually interested in, but I figured I would ask. I am willing to send them to anyone who wants them for only the cost of shipping. I would donate them but I'm sure the cost would be prohibitive and interest in them minimal. I have attached a couple of images to give you an idea of the flower colors but there's no way I can guarantee what any of them are individually. Please contact me privately if you a re inter ested. Chad Cox -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 731135 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image2.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 813658 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Sent from my iPhone Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From kenttoto@gmail.com Tue, 02 Jan 2018 17:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Michael Kent Subject: BX 434 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2018 19:41:33 -0500 Jan, For some reason, the "l" at the end of those first two links separated. Copy/paste the link location, type an "l" (that's "L"), then enter, and it will work. Nice pictures, Mike. Also, thanks for donating them to the BX. Mike On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:01 PM, Jan Jeddeloh wrote: > Michael they are gorgeous plants but not hardy for me. Also your first > two links don’t work. > > Jan Jeddeloh > > On Jan 2, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Michael Mace wrote: > > > > Thanks, Albert, for taking over the exchange! > > > > Here's a bit more information about the Moraea corms I sent to this > > exchange, plus links to some photos. > > > > Plant the corms as soon as you receive them -- they are winter-growing > and > > should have been in the ground already (sorry about that). > > > > Most of these are small offsets that will need another year of growth > before > > they bloom. The plants marked GK are from noted Iris breeder Garry Knipe, > > who is also experimenting in Moraea. > > > > > > Moraea villosa color forms, and crosses between M. villosa forms: > > > > Moraea villosa form A > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea- > villosa-color-forms.htm > > l > > > > Moraea villosa form B > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea- > villosa-color-forms.htm > > l > > > > GK 1211 (Moraea villosa form E X form C) Pastel tepals and > brightly-colored > > eyes > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-50.html > > > > GK 1212 (Moraea villosa form C X form F) Pale violet tepals, some flowers > > have a yellow ring around the central eye > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-12-59.html > > > > GK 1213 (offspring of Moraea villosa form F) White tepals with light to > dark > > blue eyes > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-64.html > > > > GK 1305 (Moraea villosa form A X form D) Most are pale violet with > > brightly-colored eyes > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-13-35.html > > > > MM 12-67 (Moraea villosa form B X D) My favorite villosa cross, this one > has > > a huge variety of pastel tepal colors and bright eyes. > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-12-67.html > > > > > > Moraea hybrids: > > > > MM 12-55 (Moraea tricolor X macronyx) Yellow with brownish-red streaks. > > Cormlets. > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/06/moraea-mm-12-55.html > > > > GK 1303 (MM 09-02c X villosa form D) Pastel tepals in various colors, > with > > light to dark blue eyes > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2017/11/moraea-mm-13-08.html > > > > GK 1303_6 Same as above but with white tepals > > > > GK 1329 (MM 09-02c X M atropunctata) Most of these have white tepals and > > dark eyes, but occasionally there's something very different > > http://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2016/05/moraea-mm-13-81.html > > > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > > > Mike > > San Jose, CA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From bulbexchange@gmail.com Wed, 03 Jan 2018 09:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <31FFE4D0-1474-45E1-B631-5743811B1527@gmail.com> From: Albert Stella Subject: BX/SX Donations Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:39:08 -0500 Hello all, bulbexchange@gmail.com is a private email I created for exactly this reason. It will be checked multiple times daily. I do have another email, it is amstella1017@gmail.com. I check this about once a month. Cheers, Al Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2018, at 4:39 PM, Joyce Miller wrote: > > Hi Albert, > We need your private email. > Best, Joyce Miller > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Albert Stella > Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 11:36 AM > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] BX/SX Donations > > Hello All, > > With the new year will begin a new round of BX/SXs. All future donations > can be sent to: > Albert Stella > 4403 Graceland Ct. > Raleigh, NC 27606 > USA > > Overseas donors please contact me at bulbexchange@gmail.com before sending > your donations. > > Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions. > > Thanks, > Al > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From bulbexchange@gmail.com Wed, 03 Jan 2018 09:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <53107CAA-CCDA-4A78-94AC-EA842DEBF1FF@gmail.com> From: Albert Stella Subject: BX 434 Clarification Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 11:47:49 -0500 Hello all, I’m not sure exactly what happened but the list of available materials in BX 434 was not numbered. You’ll receive shares that are numbered. The list is in numerical order as it appears in the email. See below. Please email me privately if you need any further clarification. Sorry for any confusion. Albert From Mike Mace (corms): Moraea aristata Moraea GK1212 (Moraea villosa form C x Moraea villosa form F) Moraea villosa form A Moraea villosa form B Moraea MM12-55 (M. tricolor x M. macronyx) cormlets Moraea MM12-67 (M. villosa form B x M. villosa form D) Moraea GK 1303_6 (Moraea MM09-02c x M. villosa form D) Moraea GK1213 (M. villosa form F offspring) Moraea GK1303 (Moraea MM09-02c x M. villosa form D) Moraea GK1303_7 (Moraea MM09-02c x M. villosa form D) Moraea GK1211 (M. villosa form E x M. villosa form C) Moraea GK1329 (Moraea MM09-02c x M. atropunctata) Moraea GK1305 (M. villosa form A x M. villosa form D) From William Hoffman (All seeds): Hippeastrum harrisonii ex. Jim Shields Zephyranthes atamasco ex. Wake Co., NC Habranthus brachyandrus Lilium formosanum Hippeastrum striatum ‘Soltão’ ex. Mauro Peixoto _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From bulbexchange@gmail.com Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Albert Stella Subject: BX 434 Closed Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 16:16:50 -0500 All gone. Packages should go out early next week. Thanks! Albert Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From keshabcp@gmail.com Thu, 04 Jan 2018 04:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Keshab C. Pradhan" Subject: (no subject) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 16:55:13 +0530 Do please let me know if my Membership is due. Thanks. Keshab Pradhan (Sikkim, India) _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From fredbonthuis@hotmail.com Thu, 04 Jan 2018 05:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Fred Bonthuis Subject: order seeds Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 12:54:50 +0000 can I order the seeds from mike mace vol ii issue 4 from all of the morea arts I,am interested in the total numbers of this thank you fred bonthuis roode kruislaan 18 3257 KG Ooltgensplaat the netherlands _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From arnold140@verizon.net Thu, 04 Jan 2018 05:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <160c14282ff-1b2e-877@webjas-vac101.srv.aolmail.net> From: Arnold Trachtenberg Subject: (no subject) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 08:00:49 -0500 Good Morning Your membership is paid through the end of 2018. Happy New Year. Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Keshab C. Pradhan To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Thu, Jan 4, 2018 6:25 am Subject: [pbs] (no subject) Do please let me know if my Membership is due. Thanks. Keshab Pradhan (Sikkim, India) _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From keshabcp@gmail.com Thu, 04 Jan 2018 05:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Keshab C. Pradhan" Subject: (no subject) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 18:38:44 +0530 Thanks. Happy New Year. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg wrote: > Good Morning > > Your membership is paid through the end of 2018. > > Happy New Year. > > > > > > > > Arnold Trachtenberg > arnold140@verizon.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keshab C. Pradhan > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Sent: Thu, Jan 4, 2018 6:25 am > Subject: [pbs] (no subject) > > Do please let me know if my Membership is due. Thanks. > Keshab Pradhan (Sikkim, India) > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From nickplummer@gmail.com Thu, 04 Jan 2018 17:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Nicholas plummer Subject: Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 20:02:14 -0500 Like everyone else on the east coast of the USA, we're we're experiencing a cold start to 2018 in North Carolina. The low temperatures aren't particularly unusual, but they are persisting longer than in recent winters. I'm starting to worry about how deep the ground might be freezing and whether the frost will reach the South African and South American bulbs that I have planted in the past five years. I guess I'll find out in spring. In my greenhouse, I have my first Hippeastrum calyptratum flowers on a four-year-old plant. I am very pleased with their appearance but somewhat disappointed by their fragrance. After reading descriptions of "burning plastic," I was expecting something really nasty, but all I can detect is a very faint odor reminiscent of wet paint. I guess my nose isn't as sensitive as a bat's. Pictures here: https://sweetgumandpines.wordpress.com/ Happy new year. Nick Plummer North Carolina, USA, Zone 7. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From arnold140@verizon.net Thu, 04 Jan 2018 19:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <160c439a26f-1728-55cd@webjas-vab217.srv.aolmail.net> From: Arnold Trachtenberg Subject: Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 21:50:00 -0500 Nikck: Have someone else give it a sniff. There's some serious individual variation in sense of smell. My wife can barely smell the very fragrant Muscari macrocarpum which I find wonderful. Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas plummer To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Thu, Jan 4, 2018 8:02 pm Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Like everyone else on the east coast of the USA, we're we're experiencing a cold start to 2018 in North Carolina. The low temperatures aren't particularly unusual, but they are persisting longer than in recent winters. I'm starting to worry about how deep the ground might be freezing and whether the frost will reach the South African and South American bulbs that I have planted in the past five years. I guess I'll find out in spring. In my greenhouse, I have my first Hippeastrum calyptratum flowers on a four-year-old plant. I am very pleased with their appearance but somewhat disappointed by their fragrance. After reading descriptions of "burning plastic," I was expecting something really nasty, but all I can detect is a very faint odor reminiscent of wet paint. I guess my nose isn't as sensitive as a bat's. Pictures here: https://sweetgumandpines.wordpress.com/ Happy new year. Nick Plummer North Carolina, USA, Zone 7. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 04 Jan 2018 19:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <1729382832.762711.1515121337547@mail.yahoo.com> From: Rick Buell via pbs Subject: Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 03:02:17 +0000 (UTC) You may find that calyptratum is more fragrant in the evening then during the day? Mine is not yet blooming size, so I can't say for sure. As for the vulnerability of the bulbs to this extended coldness, you might try piling more snow on top of them as insulation. I took the added precaution of putting a thick layer of dry, milled peat moss over a small bed, and then covered it with a piece of rigid plastic. I guess we'll all get to see what this winter leaves us. Good luck! Rick Buell New London CT -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 1/4/18, Nicholas plummer wrote: Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018, 8:02 PM Like everyone else on the east coast of the USA, we're we're experiencing a cold start to 2018 in North Carolina.  The low temperatures aren't particularly unusual, but they are persisting longer than in recent winters.  I'm starting to worry about how deep the ground might be freezing and whether the frost will reach the South African and South American bulbs that I have planted in the past five years.  I guess I'll find out in spring. In my greenhouse, I have my first Hippeastrum calyptratum flowers on a four-year-old plant.  I am very pleased with their appearance but somewhat disappointed by their fragrance.  After reading descriptions of "burning plastic," I was expecting something really nasty, but all I can detect is a very faint odor reminiscent of wet paint.  I guess my nose isn't as sensitive as a bat's. Pictures here:  https://sweetgumandpines.wordpress.com/ Happy new year. Nick Plummer North Carolina, USA, Zone 7. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From joycemiller843@gmail.com Thu, 04 Jan 2018 19:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <5a4eeb93.1352620a.bfab1.8b73@mx.google.com> From: Joyce Miller Subject: Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 19:05:54 -0800 Hello all, Nick, Try smelling at different times of the day or night. Some flowers only release scent when their pollinators are about. Probably 25 years ago, I obtained seeds of this species which originated from Park Seeds. I managed to grow it to maturity and it bloomed once. The flower was darker green than Nick’s. Not knowing the proper care those years back, my bulb had too much moisture and later succumbed to virus which was verified by a CA horticulturist Sometime this year, I obtained 7 H. calyptratum seeds from the BX. To my delight 6 germinated. Soon after bulb scholars wrote cultivation directions for the species i.e. they are epiphytic (which I knew) and less, but not more moisture was desired. I am hopeful I will see these seedlings to maturity and bloom time. Best, Joyce Miller, Gresham, OR Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Arnold Trachtenberg Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 6:50 PM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Nikck: Have someone else give it a sniff. There's some serious individual variation in sense of smell. My wife can barely smell the very fragrant Muscari macrocarpum which I find wonderful. Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas plummer To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Thu, Jan 4, 2018 8:02 pm Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Like everyone else on the east coast of the USA, we're we're experiencing a cold start to 2018 in North Carolina. The low temperatures aren't particularly unusual, but they are persisting longer than in recent winters. I'm starting to worry about how deep the ground might be freezing and whether the frost will reach the South African and South American bulbs that I have planted in the past five years. I guess I'll find out in spring. In my greenhouse, I have my first Hippeastrum calyptratum flowers on a four-year-old plant. I am very pleased with their appearance but somewhat disappointed by their fragrance. After reading descriptions of "burning plastic," I was expecting something really nasty, but all I can detect is a very faint odor reminiscent of wet paint. I guess my nose isn't as sensitive as a bat's. Pictures here: https://sweetgumandpines.wordpress.com/ Happy new year. Nick Plummer North Carolina, USA, Zone 7. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From ixia@dcsi.net.au Thu, 04 Jan 2018 20:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <000001d385d5$142a2170$3c7e6450$@net.au> From: "Bill Richardson" Subject: Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 14:27:11 +1100 That is very true Arnold. I have blooms that have very distinctive but subtle fragrances but often my wife can't get the scent at all. Also, try whiffing it once to get the perfume/scent, then try again immediately after. Often you won't get it second time round. Bill Richardson, Ixiaking, Gippsland, Australia -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Arnold Trachtenberg Sent: Friday, 5 January 2018 1:50 PM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum calyptratum (and cold weather) Nikck: Have someone else give it a sniff. There's some serious individual variation in sense of smell. My wife can barely smell the very fragrant Muscari macrocarpum which I find wonderful. Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From susan@plantswomandesign.com Fri, 05 Jan 2018 14:17:08 -0800 Message-Id: <1141F7F5-ED06-4268-8B99-BBDF158CC683@plantswomandesign.com> From: Susan Calhoun Subject: First snowdrop sightings Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 13:34:53 -0800 HI All, So cold back east, sorry. Here in Seattle area snowdrops are starting to push through the ground and my Galanthus woronowii is up and blooming. I did have trouble with something eating the snowdrop blooms last year. I wonder if anyone knows what it could be. I do see some rabbit nibbles on the leaves, and don’t see slug or snail trails (it is still a bit cold for them). I did put out some slug/snail killer last year but didn’t see any significant difference in non treated areas vs treated areas. Any help would be appreciated, I have many varieties and would love to see all of them not just bits. Thanks Susan Calhoun _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From seduboiss@gmail.com Fri, 05 Jan 2018 14:17:08 -0800 Message-Id: From: Susanne DuBois Subject: First snowdrop sightings Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 13:50:13 -0800 Google Cut Worms. I have had problems with them in the Seattle area for years. They "cut" the plant off at it base. A trick to see if you have them...make a little bag out of cheese cloth and fill it with dried oatmeal and bury it near the plant. Dig it up in a few days and see if you "caught" any. I use this truck to control they as well. Susanne On January 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Susan Calhoun wrote: HI All, So cold back east, sorry. Here in Seattle area snowdrops are starting to push through the ground and my Galanthus woronowii is up and blooming. I did have trouble with something eating the snowdrop blooms last year. I wonder if anyone knows what it could be. I do see some rabbit nibbles on the leaves, and don’t see slug or snail trails (it is still a bit cold for them). I did put out some slug/snail killer last year but didn’t see any significant difference in non treated areas vs treated areas. Any help would be appreciated, I have many varieties and would love to see all of them not just bits. Thanks Susan Calhoun _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From arnold140@verizon.net Sat, 06 Jan 2018 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <160cc99a1d5-171a-9b03f@webjas-vae014.srv.aolmail.net> From: Arnold Trachtenberg Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 12:51:48 -0500 I wish all of our forum members a healthy and Happy New Year. As the keeper of the funds that allows the Society to provide the excellent benefits that we all have enjoyed over the years it is important that we remain solvent and keep adequate funds on hand. We have continued our policy of funding grant applications for studies performed by professional botanists in the area of geophytic plant species. You have seen some of their worked highlighted in past Bulb Gardens. We continue to provide and excellent BX/SX exchange, now run by Albert Stella. Will be hard to replace Dell but I know that Al will be up to the challenge. The Board and various volunteers work behind the scenes to keep the Society functioning and growing. My personal thanks to David Pillings, Robin Hansen and most of all to Dell Sherk for giving years of service. To conclude we need your help in catching up on over due BS/SX payments and dues for the new year. Please send any inquires to me at Arnold 140@verizon.net With kindest regards, Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From robin@hansennursery.com Sat, 06 Jan 2018 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <056f01d38719$c1643b60$442cb220$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 10:11:12 -0800 Hi, Arnold, Would you like another reminder in the journal regarding this matter or can I just put your email in (formatted, of course) as a message from you? Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Arnold Trachtenberg Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:52 AM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: [pbs] New Year 2018 I wish all of our forum members a healthy and Happy New Year. As the keeper of the funds that allows the Society to provide the excellent benefits that we all have enjoyed over the years it is important that we remain solvent and keep adequate funds on hand. We have continued our policy of funding grant applications for studies performed by professional botanists in the area of geophytic plant species. You have seen some of their worked highlighted in past Bulb Gardens. We continue to provide and excellent BX/SX exchange, now run by Albert Stella. Will be hard to replace Dell but I know that Al will be up to the challenge. The Board and various volunteers work behind the scenes to keep the Society functioning and growing. My personal thanks to David Pillings, Robin Hansen and most of all to Dell Sherk for giving years of service. To conclude we need your help in catching up on over due BS/SX payments and dues for the new year. Please send any inquires to me at Arnold 140@verizon.net With kindest regards, Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From arnold140@verizon.net Sat, 06 Jan 2018 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <160ccb55bca-1722-1ae58@webjas-vac007.srv.aolmail.net> From: Arnold Trachtenberg Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 13:22:05 -0500 Let's do a reminder in the BG. You can put in a box like a reminder for dues renewal. I was thinking that Nhu was going to write something. Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Hansen Nursery To: 'Pacific Bulb Society' Sent: Sat, Jan 6, 2018 1:11 pm Subject: Re: [pbs] New Year 2018 Hi, Arnold, Would you like another reminder in the journal regarding this matter or can I just put your email in (formatted, of course) as a message from you? Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Arnold Trachtenberg Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:52 AM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: [pbs] New Year 2018 I wish all of our forum members a healthy and Happy New Year. As the keeper of the funds that allows the Society to provide the excellent benefits that we all have enjoyed over the years it is important that we remain solvent and keep adequate funds on hand. We have continued our policy of funding grant applications for studies performed by professional botanists in the area of geophytic plant species. You have seen some of their worked highlighted in past Bulb Gardens. We continue to provide and excellent BX/SX exchange, now run by Albert Stella. Will be hard to replace Dell but I know that Al will be up to the challenge. The Board and various volunteers work behind the scenes to keep the Society functioning and growing. My personal thanks to David Pillings, Robin Hansen and most of all to Dell Sherk for giving years of service. To conclude we need your help in catching up on over due BS/SX payments and dues for the new year. Please send any inquires to me at Arnold 140@verizon.net With kindest regards, Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jsloyd61@icloud.com Sat, 06 Jan 2018 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Janet Loyd Subject: Eranthis cilicica Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2018 14:20:10 -0500 I’m in Georgia, USA zone 8 can anyone give me advice on how to plant the Eranthis Cilicia or winter buttercup corms or if they will even grow here in the south. I do have a microclimate on the eastern side of my house which supports many other marginal plants such as galanthus, trillium, asarum, epimedium, Polygonatum & many others. I can tell from looking at the tiny dried little corms that a good overnight soaking will only benefit the planting. I can guess the planting depth but other than that I have no clue what else may be needed. I bought the lot of the lonely looking bulbs being the last on the shelf at 70% off local gardening center. So even if they should fail not much has been lost & maybe another gardening lesson learned. Janet Fayetteville, Ga.,USA Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From robin@hansennursery.com Sat, 06 Jan 2018 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <058d01d38727$dc40e0b0$94c2a210$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 11:52:18 -0800 He ran out of time so I wrote up a few paragraphs on Albert and sent it to him for review, so I'll do the reminder as a separate piece. Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Arnold Trachtenberg Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 10:22 AM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] New Year 2018 Let's do a reminder in the BG. You can put in a box like a reminder for dues renewal. I was thinking that Nhu was going to write something. Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Hansen Nursery To: 'Pacific Bulb Society' Sent: Sat, Jan 6, 2018 1:11 pm Subject: Re: [pbs] New Year 2018 Hi, Arnold, Would you like another reminder in the journal regarding this matter or can I just put your email in (formatted, of course) as a message from you? Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Arnold Trachtenberg Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:52 AM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: [pbs] New Year 2018 I wish all of our forum members a healthy and Happy New Year. As the keeper of the funds that allows the Society to provide the excellent benefits that we all have enjoyed over the years it is important that we remain solvent and keep adequate funds on hand. We have continued our policy of funding grant applications for studies performed by professional botanists in the area of geophytic plant species. You have seen some of their worked highlighted in past Bulb Gardens. We continue to provide and excellent BX/SX exchange, now run by Albert Stella. Will be hard to replace Dell but I know that Al will be up to the challenge. The Board and various volunteers work behind the scenes to keep the Society functioning and growing. My personal thanks to David Pillings, Robin Hansen and most of all to Dell Sherk for giving years of service. To conclude we need your help in catching up on over due BS/SX payments and dues for the new year. Please send any inquires to me at Arnold 140@verizon.net With kindest regards, Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From janemcgary@earthlink.net Sat, 06 Jan 2018 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <7148af10-efbf-79fe-b6e3-f49d84895ea6@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Eranthis cilicica Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 12:08:57 -0800 It's probably too late to plant Eranthis tubers (not corms) that have been in dry storage from sale last autumn, especially in the uncontrolled conditions of a garden center. Soaking them is necessary in any case, but they may be past revival. Eranthis should do well where Galanthus (snowdrops) are growing. They are tolerant of summer rainfall. You can order fresher tubers next summer from an importer such as McClure & Zimmerman and plant them right away. The tubers tend to be expensive because of the special handling they need; also, they don't increase rapidly. Here in the Pacific Northwest I've seen container plants offered in spring, but they're probably grown from tubers ordered wholesale by the nurseries. There is an old semi-public garden in Portland, called Bishop's Close, where hundreds of Eranthis flower in spring in a lawn. Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA On 1/6/2018 11:20 AM, Janet Loyd wrote: > I’m in Georgia, USA zone 8 can anyone give me advice on how to plant the Eranthis Cilicia or winter buttercup corms or if they will even grow here in the south. I do have a microclimate on the eastern side of my house which supports many other marginal plants such as galanthus, trillium, asarum, epimedium, Polygonatum & many others. I can tell from looking at the tiny dried little corms that a good overnight soaking will only benefit the planting. I can guess the planting depth but other than that I have no clue what else may be needed. I bought the lot of the lonely looking bulbs being the last on the shelf at 70% off local gardening center. So even if they should fail not much has been lost & maybe another gardening lesson learned. Janet Fayetteville, Ga.,USA > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From robin@hansennursery.com Sat, 06 Jan 2018 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <000001d3872b$6afbd9b0$40f38d10$@hansennursery.com> From: "Hansen Nursery" Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 12:17:39 -0800 My apologies to members of the forum. I just now realized my emails were going to the wrong place. Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From sun-coast-pearl@telus.net Sat, 06 Jan 2018 16:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <000601d3874c$abe06330$03a12990$@telus.net> From: "Jo&Greg" Subject: First snowdrop sightings Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:15:47 -0800 Good plan. Cut worms will over-winter in leaf litter, and in the Northwest, just push down a bit when needed to avoid the freeze. I've pulled back mulch in winter and picked them from the soil. The other beastie that cuts succulent stems at the soil line, or just below it, are wire worms, the larval stage of the click beetle. They are most prevalent around the edges of a bed, especially where grass bumps right up against the bed. In this area the infestation can be severe. New beds made by removing lawn are notorious for wire worms. The bag of oatmeal works well for both. I have used potato slices for years. I put a sliced potato (1/2 in. thick, and quartered) throughout the bed, and find they are most effective when no more than 4 inches away from the plant. Push into soil so only the top -- about 2 inches is above the soil. Check every two days, and pull out the beasties. They prefer potato to the plant, and will stay in the trap. The oatmeal -- or even cornmeal -- also works, but sometimes the mice get at those, and they get soggy when it rains so are hard to manage. It is a little early for rabbits in the Northwest, but the deer are very hungry. Yesterday they trimmed the top of one of my aucuba, where the winter-protection mesh had fallen down. Jo in Vancouver Island, at 50 degrees N, about 4 hours north of Seattle. -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Susanne DuBois Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 1:50 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] First snowdrop sightings Google Cut Worms. I have had problems with them in the Seattle area for years. They "cut" the plant off at it base. A trick to see if you have them...make a little bag out of cheese cloth and fill it with dried oatmeal and bury it near the plant. Dig it up in a few days and see if you "caught" any. I use this truck to control they as well. Susanne On January 5, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Susan Calhoun wrote: HI All, So cold back east, sorry. Here in Seattle area snowdrops are starting to push through the ground and my Galanthus woronowii is up and blooming. I did have trouble with something eating the snowdrop blooms last year. I wonder if anyone knows what it could be. I do see some rabbit nibbles on the leaves, and don’t see slug or snail trails (it is still a bit cold for them). I did put out some slug/snail killer last year but didn’t see any significant difference in non treated areas vs treated areas. Any help would be appreciated, I have many varieties and would love to see all of them not just bits. Thanks Susan Calhoun _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 06 Jan 2018 21:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <160cedf78dd-170d-6461b@webjas-vac216.srv.aolmail.net> From: ", via pbs" Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 23:27:20 -0500 I think I owe money and can't remember if I have already paid dues this year. I embarrass myself again. Carolyn Craft -----Original Message----- From: Arnold Trachtenberg To: pbs Sent: Sat, Jan 6, 2018 9:51 am Subject: [pbs] New Year 2018 I wish all of our forum members a healthy and Happy New Year. As the keeper of the funds that allows the Society to provide the excellent benefits that we all have enjoyed over the years it is important that we remain solvent and keep adequate funds on hand. We have continued our policy of funding grant applications for studies performed by professional botanists in the area of geophytic plant species. You have seen some of their worked highlighted in past Bulb Gardens. We continue to provide and excellent BX/SX exchange, now run by Albert Stella. Will be hard to replace Dell but I know that Al will be up to the challenge. The Board and various volunteers work behind the scenes to keep the Society functioning and growing. My personal thanks to David Pillings, Robin Hansen and most of all to Dell Sherk for giving years of service. To conclude we need your help in catching up on over due BS/SX payments and dues for the new year. Please send any inquires to me at Arnold 140@verizon.net With kindest regards, Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From hartsentwine.australia@gmail.com Sat, 06 Jan 2018 21:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4DC48437-859C-4A98-91E0-FD200861066C@gmail.com> From: Steven Hart Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 14:50:44 +1000 Haha especially since you sent that to all of us lol Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Jan 2018, at 2:27 pm, , via pbs wrote: > > I think I owe money and can't remember if I have already paid dues this year. I embarrass myself again. > Carolyn Craft > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arnold Trachtenberg > To: pbs > Sent: Sat, Jan 6, 2018 9:51 am > Subject: [pbs] New Year 2018 > > > I wish all of our forum members a healthy and Happy New Year. > > > As the keeper of the funds that allows the Society to provide the excellent benefits that we all have enjoyed over the years it is important that we remain solvent and keep adequate funds on hand. > > > We have continued our policy of funding grant applications for studies performed by professional botanists in the area of geophytic plant species. > > > You have seen some of their worked highlighted in past Bulb Gardens. > > > > We continue to provide and excellent BX/SX exchange, now run by Albert Stella. > > > Will be hard to replace Dell but I know that Al will be up to the challenge. > > > > > > The Board and various volunteers work behind the scenes to keep the Society functioning and growing. > > > > My personal thanks to David Pillings, Robin Hansen and most of all to Dell Sherk for giving years of service. > > > > To conclude we need your help in catching up on over due BS/SX payments and dues for the new year. > > > Please send any inquires to me at > > Arnold 140@verizon.net > > > > With kindest regards, > > > > > > > > > Arnold Trachtenberg > arnold140@verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 06 Jan 2018 21:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <160cf0ac6b4-191d-64911@webjas-vad096.srv.aolmail.net> From: ", via pbs" Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 00:14:38 -0500 yep, realized that as soon as I hit send. Gave everyone a good laugh, laughs are good for us -----Original Message----- From: Steven Hart To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Sat, Jan 6, 2018 8:50 pm Subject: Re: [pbs] New Year 2018 Haha especially since you sent that to all of us lol Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Jan 2018, at 2:27 pm, , via pbs wrote: > > I think I owe money and can't remember if I have already paid dues this year. I embarrass myself again. > Carolyn Craft > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Arnold Trachtenberg > To: pbs > Sent: Sat, Jan 6, 2018 9:51 am > Subject: [pbs] New Year 2018 > > > I wish all of our forum members a healthy and Happy New Year. > > > As the keeper of the funds that allows the Society to provide the excellent benefits that we all have enjoyed over the years it is important that we remain solvent and keep adequate funds on hand. > > > We have continued our policy of funding grant applications for studies performed by professional botanists in the area of geophytic plant species. > > > You have seen some of their worked highlighted in past Bulb Gardens. > > > > We continue to provide and excellent BX/SX exchange, now run by Albert Stella. > > > Will be hard to replace Dell but I know that Al will be up to the challenge. > > > > > > The Board and various volunteers work behind the scenes to keep the Society functioning and growing. > > > > My personal thanks to David Pillings, Robin Hansen and most of all to Dell Sherk for giving years of service. > > > > To conclude we need your help in catching up on over due BS/SX payments and dues for the new year. > > > Please send any inquires to me at > > Arnold 140@verizon.net > > > > With kindest regards, > > > > > > > > > Arnold Trachtenberg > arnold140@verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From david@davidpilling.com Sun, 07 Jan 2018 05:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <10872cbf-31b5-070d-0956-d11153daa592@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: Eranthis cilicica Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 12:20:52 +0000 Hi, On 06/01/2018 20:08, Jane McGary wrote: > It's probably too late to plant Eranthis tubers (not corms) that have The PBS wiki [1] tells me "Eranthis cilicica and Eranthis hyemalis are sometimes considered to be conspecific, but as garden plants they are distinct. " Anyway I never had any luck with bought tubers, even after soaking them. Guessing, the plants seem to only grow whilst temperatures stay just above freezing. I grew some from seed, but managed to kill most of the seedlings by bringing them indoors (too warm). They're a nice thing to have, and can be spectacular in large quantities. Celandine (ficaria verna) looks similar from a distance and since it is a weed, presumably easier to grow. [1] http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Eranthis -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From russell@odysseybulbs.com Sun, 07 Jan 2018 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Russell Stafford, Odyssey Bulbs" Subject: Eranthis cilicica Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 10:34:51 -0500 Fresh seed or properly stored tubers are the way to go.  Scatter seed soon after it ripens in spring (gardening friends who have established colonies of Eranthis can be excellent sources of fresh seed!).  Or plant tubers that have been stored in a slightly moist medium.  You'll pay more for such tubers, but they'll be plump and showing signs of growth, as people who receive tubers from me can probably attest! Russell On 1/6/2018 2:20 PM, Janet Loyd wrote: > I’m in Georgia, USA zone 8 can anyone give me advice on how to plant the Eranthis Cilicia or winter buttercup corms or if they will even grow here in the south. s -- Russell Stafford Odyssey Bulbs PO Box 382 South Lancaster, MA 01561 508-335-8106 russell@odysseybulbs.com www.odysseybulbs.com www.facebook.com/odysseybulbs --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Sun, 07 Jan 2018 14:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: Eranthis cilicica Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 15:49:15 -0600 Dear PBSer, Years ago I purchased 100 bulbs each of both E. cilicica and E hyemalis from a prominent (and expensive) bulb dealer. All were treated the same with an over night soak and prompt planting. The first spring the vast majority of them all came up. Although ALL the E. hymenalis were correctly named, the bulbs labelled E. cilicica proved to be about 15 true and the rest hymnalis. As David says "as garden plants they are distinct.“, close up. Within a year or two all the cilicica died. I have been able to divide and spread the E. hyemali.s around and they found a spot to their liking where they self seed about happily. This is saying a lot in my difficult climate of Kansas City. I think they are here to stay. Considering how similar the two are in my garden I have no urge to pursue E. cilicica further. Best Jim W. On Jan 7, 2018, at 6:20 AM, David Pilling wrote: Hi, On 06/01/2018 20:08, Jane McGary wrote: > It's probably too late to plant Eranthis tubers (not corms) that have The PBS wiki [1] tells me "Eranthis cilicica and Eranthis hyemalis are sometimes considered to be conspecific, but as garden plants they are distinct. " Anyway I never had any luck with bought tubers, even after soaking them. Guessing, the plants seem to only grow whilst temperatures stay just above freezing. I grew some from seed, but managed to kill most of the seedlings by bringing them indoors (too warm). They're a nice thing to have, and can be spectacular in large quantities. Celandine (ficaria verna) looks similar from a distance and since it is a weed, presumably easier to grow. [1] http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Eranthis -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jamesamckenney@verizon.net Sun, 07 Jan 2018 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <1777459893.2169300.1515365820042@mail.yahoo.com> From: Jim McKenney Subject: Eranthis cilicica Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 22:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Years of experience with Eranthis hyemalis, E.cilicica and E. x tubergenii in my Maryland garden suggest that each of these behaves a bit differently. E. hyemalis makes itself at home and naturalizes in shade or sun, seeding about freely. E. cilicica, which blooms later than E. cilicica with smaller flowers, does not seed freely and does not seem to tolerate moist/wet summer conditions. My experience with E. x tubergenii is based on the performance of material obtained under another name. The resulting plants were very variable, some with small flowers, some with the largest Eranthis flowers on the largest Eranthis plants I've ever seen. This stock proved to be short lived. Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 where we've been seeing the nasty side of zone 7 for days.  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From janemcgary@earthlink.net Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <223170fe-eda9-906a-e0b8-b372d60f7555@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:Hippeastrum bukasovii Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 12:17:32 -0800 The following inquiry came via the PBS website. If you can assist Ron Rico, please write to him directly, not to this forum. Thanks, Jane McGary -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: PBS website contact:Hippeastrum bukasovii Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:28:20 -0500 From: Apache Reply-To: Ron Rico To: janemcgary@earthlink.net This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. Due to a grub infestation last year I lost my Hippeastrum bukasovii. Is it possible one of your members would sell me a bulb? Please let me know. Thank you -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From myixia1@gmail.com Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Pamela Slate Subject: Scilla madeirensis seed Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:56:01 -0700 Dear PBSers, My five S. madeirensis are all producing seed and the pods are ripening. See attached (very amateurish) photo and note some of the pods are slightly under one cm and each scape has a different number of pods. I have muslin draw string bags I plan to place over the drying stems to catch the pods and hopefully find much seed to share with the SX as well as grow myself. Could anyone out there tell me when I need to cover the scapes and the approximate time it takes for ripening is complete? Also, do any of you have experience growing this plant from seed and if so, please share. Thanks so much for any information. Best to all, Pamela Slate Scottsdale Arizona USA Zone approx 9A-ish and warming -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sc.mad.seedpods.11218.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 236572 bytes Desc: not available URL: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From brian.whyer@btinternet.com Sat, 13 Jan 2018 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <994366432.4323018.1515885155315@mail.yahoo.com> From: Brian Whyer Subject: Scilla madeirensis seed Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi Pamela I have grown it from seed a few times. They seem to take a very long time to ripen here in the UK. My seed pods formed at the end of last summer (September/October) and I don't expect to collect them until next April/May. The pods fill out over winter some getting 1 cm diameter+. Maybe in a warmer climate they ripen more quickly but not in my 7C minimum greenhouse. In their natural habitat they will be warm all "winter". Mine get very top heavy and I wonder if they fall over and ripen and break up on the ground naturally. Brian UK From: Pamela Slate To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2018, 21:56 Subject: [pbs] Scilla madeirensis seed Dear PBSers, My five S. madeirensis are all producing seed and the pods are ripening. See attached (very amateurish) photo and note some of the pods are slightly under one cm and each scape has a different number of pods. I have muslin draw string bags I plan to place over the drying stems to catch the pods and hopefully find much seed to share with the SX as well as grow myself. Could anyone out there tell me when I need to cover the scapes and the approximate time it takes for ripening is complete? Also, do any of you have experience growing this plant from seed and if so, please share. Thanks so much for any information. Best to all, Pamela Slate Scottsdale Arizona USA Zone approx 9A-ish and warming -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Sc.mad.seedpods.11218.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 236572 bytes Desc: not available URL: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From luminita.vollmer@gmail.com Sat, 13 Jan 2018 17:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Luminita vollmer Subject: Scilla madeirensis seed Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:39:59 -0600 Hi everyone I received 4 S. Madeirensis bulbs from Longfield Gardens mid November and I planted them in a cool place. In the last few days 3 of them have grown a middle spear about 10in long. I am in Minneapolis, we have -10F outside, and my pot won't go outside for a while yet. But I will keep you informed of the progress. However - I have a smaller, much smaller variety of what commonly we can "grape Hyacinth" - small blue flowers just like the SM - they bloom when there is still snow on the ground and stay green under the snow, about mid to late March. The spread from seeds - and there is no shortage of new bulbs, I actually have to clean up quite often, they spread in the walking path. I have not had a problem with them spreading. They are beautiful, even though they are small, and the bloom in bunches, that's how the bulbs grow from the seeds I imagine. I can share later in the season, when they are done blooming and I have to clean. I hope the 4 bulbs I have of SM will bloom Luminita On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Brian Whyer wrote: > Hi Pamela > I have grown it from seed a few times. They seem to take a very long time > to ripen here in the UK. My seed pods formed at the end of last summer > (September/October) and I don't expect to collect them until next > April/May. The pods fill out over winter some getting 1 cm diameter+. Maybe > in a warmer climate they ripen more quickly but not in my 7C minimum > greenhouse. In their natural habitat they will be warm all "winter". Mine > get very top heavy and I wonder if they fall over and ripen and break up on > the ground naturally. > Brian UK > > From: Pamela Slate > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Sent: Saturday, 13 January 2018, 21:56 > Subject: [pbs] Scilla madeirensis seed > > Dear PBSers, > My five S. madeirensis are all producing seed and the pods are ripening. > See attached (very amateurish) photo and note some of the pods are slightly > under one cm and each scape has a different number of pods. I have muslin > draw string bags I plan to place over the drying stems to catch the pods > and hopefully find much seed to share with the SX as well as grow myself. > Could anyone out there tell me when I need to cover the scapes and the > approximate time it takes for ripening is complete? > > Also, do any of you have experience growing this plant from seed and if so, > please share. > > Thanks so much for any information. > > Best to all, > Pamela Slate > Scottsdale Arizona USA Zone approx 9A-ish and warming > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Sc.mad.seedpods.11218.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 236572 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: 20180113/f7e93821/attachment.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From fritillaria_3@hotmail.com Sat, 13 Jan 2018 18:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Terry Subject: Scilla madeirensis seed Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 01:18:52 +0000 Hi Pamela I grew Scilla madierensis from seed also. The seedlings were kept warm and dry during the summer here and watering started in early fall. Remember to keep the bulbs buried only 50percent beginning about year 3. My bulbs bloomed at 7 years. (That is this year) . They bloomed in December,but you might have faster results in a warmer climate. Terry Laskiewicz Pacific Northwest Z8 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From bulbexchange@gmail.com Sun, 14 Jan 2018 03:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Albert Stella Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 435 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 05:39:53 -0500 Dear All, The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at bulbexchange@gmail.com Include "BX 435” in the subject line. SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS, too. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 – $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE. Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS, please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Albert Stella 4403 Graceland Ct. Raleigh, NC 27606 USA Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations. Non US donors should contact Al for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Al’s email address: bulbexchange@gmail.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! From Al Stella 1. Barnardia (Scilla) numidica bulbs 2. Hippeastrum x ackermanii bulbs 3. x Amarcrinum memoria-corsii bulbs 4. Amorphophallus konjac small corms 5. Amorphophallus krausei corms 6. Pancratium sickenbergeri small bulbs - these are offsets of bulbs grown from wild collected (2010) seed. 7. Sprekelia formosissima small bulbs From Uli Urban 8. Nymphaea viviparous hybrid, blue, leaf > tubers > > After my observation after one summer > in Portugal, I would now like to > stress that it should not be allowed to > escape into natural ponds as it > might become invasive in an apropriate > climate. Every leaf is able to > become a new plant. From Dennis Kramb 9. Sinningia bullata x S. conspicua Dennis writes: “The plants have a growth habit like S. bullata which means they ramble & need lots of room. That's why I'm donating them. I have too many and need to thin out my collection. The bulbs are roughly 5 years old. They can grow in full sun & do not go dormant if watered regularly. These tubers are roughly plum-sized and will continue increasing in size. The mother bullata tuber is larger than a grapefruit. The flowers seem to be fertile. I'm growing some F2's.” Thanks Uli and Dennis! Good luck! Al Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 14 Jan 2018 04:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <1774550320.4522003.1515928846242@mail.yahoo.com> From: Colin Simeons via pbs Subject: Pacific Bulb Society BX 435 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 11:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Sorry I made a mistake so I'll try again: 8. Nymphaea viviparous hybrid, blue, leaf> tubersMy address is:Colin SimeonsVia Antegnate, 8300188 RomeItalyTel +39 3408922488 From: Albert Stella To: pbs List Sent: Sunday, 14 January 2018, 11:40 Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 435 Dear All,     The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared. If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at bulbexchange@gmail.com Include "BX 435” in the subject line.       SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS, too. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 – $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE.   Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website:       If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS, please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: Albert Stella 4403 Graceland Ct. Raleigh, NC 27606 USA Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations. Non US donors should contact Al for instructions before sending seeds. ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. Al’s email address: bulbexchange@gmail.com Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.           I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! From Al Stella 1. Barnardia (Scilla) numidica bulbs 2. Hippeastrum x ackermanii bulbs 3. x Amarcrinum memoria-corsii bulbs 4. Amorphophallus konjac small corms 5. Amorphophallus krausei corms 6. Pancratium sickenbergeri small bulbs - these are offsets of bulbs grown from wild collected (2010) seed. 7. Sprekelia formosissima small bulbs From Uli Urban 8. Nymphaea viviparous hybrid, blue, leaf > tubers > > After my observation after one summer > in Portugal, I would now like to > stress that it should not be allowed to > escape into natural ponds as it > might become invasive in an apropriate > climate. Every leaf is able to > become a new plant. From Dennis Kramb 9. Sinningia bullata x S. conspicua     Dennis writes: “The plants have a growth habit like S. bullata which means they ramble & need lots of room.  That's why I'm donating them.  I have too many and need to thin out my collection.  The bulbs are roughly 5 years old.  They can grow in full sun & do not go dormant if watered regularly.  These tubers are roughly plum-sized and will continue increasing in size.  The mother bullata tuber is larger than a grapefruit.  The flowers seem to be fertile.  I'm growing some F2's.” Thanks Uli and Dennis! Good luck! Al Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From bulbexchange@gmail.com Mon, 15 Jan 2018 03:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <731229DF-6748-47CC-961D-49BE3D0FE591@gmail.com> From: Albert Stella Subject: BX 435 CLOSED Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 05:49:09 -0500 Packages will go out soon. Enjoy! Al Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From fbiasella@watertownsavings.com Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <97a0a1b812514582a2c1c2ca3588fedb@S1P7MBX2C.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> From: Fred Biasella Subject: Missing E-mails Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 14:15:25 +0000 Hello Folks, I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but for some goofy reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS. Up until recently I had Verizon.net and had no problems, but they switched over to AOL.com and that's where the frustration began. I use outlook 13 as my e-mail server but I'm not getting them all and I missed a really cool BX offering this weekend. At work I get all my e-mails, but of course I wasn't in this weekend. Does anyone have any advice on how to correct this problem? I have tried "whitelisting" anything to do PBS and I don't know if I'm doing it wrong but I'm about to choke my computer and AOL!!!! Help. Fred Biasella _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From amstella1017@gmail.com Tue, 16 Jan 2018 07:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <0A728423-A925-4032-A064-B6E2B6421232@gmail.com> From: Albert Stella Subject: Missing E-mails Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 09:18:24 -0500 Fred, I can BCC you on the next Bx so it will come directly to you? And not have to filter through the list? Not sure if it’ll help, but I can do that for you. As for this passed BX, what did you want? I might be able to arrange that. Thanks! Sorry for the troubles! Albert Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Fred Biasella wrote: > > Hello Folks, > > I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but for some goofy reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS. Up until recently I had Verizon.net and had no problems, but they switched over to AOL.com and that's where the frustration began. I use outlook 13 as my e-mail server but I'm not getting them all and I missed a really cool BX offering this weekend. At work I get all my e-mails, but of course I wasn't in this weekend. Does anyone have any advice on how to correct this problem? I have tried "whitelisting" anything to do PBS and I don't know if I'm doing it wrong but I'm about to choke my computer and AOL!!!! > > Help. > Fred Biasella > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From david@davidpilling.com Tue, 16 Jan 2018 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <7227b9e6-326f-ae44-257d-b1488c89b9c7@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling Subject: Missing E-mails Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 15:18:14 +0000 Hi Fred, On 16/01/2018 14:15, Fred Biasella wrote: > I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but for some goofy reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS. We are involved in an endless struggle against internet suppliers who block emails from the list. Aol is a frequent offender, but having said that I can't see from the mail list management console that aol is currently blocking. Yes, you should white list the pbs list, and check in spam folders. The contents of the list appear on the PBS web site, so you can see if what you get matches what is being sent out. http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive From that page, you can subscribe to an RSS feed - possibly ancient technology now but a way of keeping in touch with developments requiring little effort. We have occasionally suggested to people to open a gmail account, these seem less prone to block posts and can be set up to forward to one other email account. The people who block this list, also block "normal" emails, so it's not an easy problem to fix. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From amstella1017@gmail.com Tue, 16 Jan 2018 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <187770C4-30C9-4B39-868D-27225E1D06BB@gmail.com> From: Albert Stella Subject: Missing E-mails Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 10:23:37 -0500 That’s it?! I think I can make that happen. I don’t have any smaller bulbs left but I can send you a big one if that works? Shoot me your mailing address, I’ll have it out by tomorrow. Al Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:18 AM, David Pilling wrote: > > Hi Fred, > >> On 16/01/2018 14:15, Fred Biasella wrote: >> I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but for some goofy reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS. > > We are involved in an endless struggle against internet suppliers who block emails from the list. > > Aol is a frequent offender, but having said that I can't see from the mail list management console that aol is currently blocking. > > Yes, you should white list the pbs list, and check in spam folders. > > The contents of the list appear on the PBS web site, so you can see if what you get matches what is being sent out. > > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive > > From that page, you can subscribe to an RSS feed - possibly ancient technology now but a way of keeping in touch with developments requiring little effort. > > We have occasionally suggested to people to open a gmail account, these seem less prone to block posts and can be set up to forward to one other email account. > > The people who block this list, also block "normal" emails, so it's not an easy problem to fix. > > > > -- > David Pilling > www.davidpilling.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <1826211531.2869042.1516221958764@mail.yahoo.com> From: Shawn Pollard via pbs Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Arnold: Good afternoon and Happy New Year! I will be renewing my membership shortly. May I found out how much I still owe for the BX? Can I pay both amounts in one lump sum or do you need separate payments? Thank you. Shawn Pollard -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/6/18, Arnold Trachtenberg wrote: Subject: [pbs] New Year 2018 To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Date: Saturday, January 6, 2018, 10:51 AM _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <438172887.2862932.1516222172934@mail.yahoo.com> From: Shawn Pollard via pbs Subject: Oops! Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:49:32 +0000 (UTC) My apologies for the message that was meant for Arnold. Shawn Pollard Yuma, AZ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From arnold140@verizon.net Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <16106c4a065-171d-3f945@webjas-vad183.srv.aolmail.net> From: Arnold Trachtenberg Subject: New Year 2018 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:56:45 -0500 Shawn; Good question that I'm sure everyone would like to know the answer. Yes you can pay memberships, BX and SX payments via PayPal. Just indicate in the note section what the funds are for. David Pilling has made it real easy to do. Go here: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/membership.html Once you click "Renewal" you get the option to add info for BX payments. Happy New Year Everyone. Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net Arnold: Good afternoon and Happy New Year! I will be renewing my membership shortly. May I found out how much I still owe for the BX? Can I pay both amounts in one lump sum or do you need separate payments? Thank you. Shawn Pollard _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4C5A5471-9A50-4D4B-96F0-CF3B12E03AC5@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Hippeastrum mandonii Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:30:16 -0600 Dear PBSers, I have a small bulb of H. mandonii that I’ve grown for a couple years and I think it will approach blooming size soon. I’d appreciate any hints to encourage bloom. Soil? Bulb depth? Watering schedule.? Does it need a dry rest period? Any special fertilizing? Should I cut leaves back any time? Appreciate even the most obvious or ‘out there’ cultivation hints. Thanks for your advice. Jim W. Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From teck11@embarqmail.com Fri, 19 Jan 2018 19:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <001201d39197$fbdefae0$f39cf0a0$@embarqmail.com> From: "Tim Eck" Subject: Hippeastrum mandonii Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 21:40:06 -0500 Hi Jim, I have heard the bulbs get very large, possibly implying it's not blooming size yet. Don't know how soon they bloom as my mandonii have not yet bloomed. My papilio x mandonii began blooming at baseball size or larger. Most had 2 blooms - one had 4 which must be from mandonii. Tim > > Dear PBSers, > > I have a small bulb of H. mandonii that I’ve grown for a couple years > and I think it will approach blooming size soon. I’d appreciate any hints to > encourage bloom. > > Soil? > > Bulb depth? > > Watering schedule.? Does it need a dry rest period? > > Any special fertilizing? Should I cut leaves back any time? > > Appreciate even the most obvious or ‘out there’ cultivation hints. > > Thanks for your advice. Jim W. > > > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From clcox@ucdavis.edu Sat, 20 Jan 2018 07:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Chad Cox Subject: Hippeastrum Mandoni Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 06:34:06 -0800 Hi Jim, I keep my H. Mandoni mostly dry. I don't give it any water in the winter time and water it about once a week during active growth. I try to let it dry out pretty good in between waterings. I like to use hydroponic fertilizer with most waterings, But sometimes I use a granular bulb fertilizer after which I skip the hydroponic stuff for awhile. I think patience is the main trick to get them to flower. :-) Chad In Elverta CA Zone 8ish( feels like 10 this winter!!) Sent from my iPhone Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Sat, 20 Jan 2018 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <9B589DD6-8DC7-4BD0-96DB-4AF59F2C931F@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Hippeastrum Mandoni Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:32:47 -0600 Dear Chad, What soil mix do you use and how much of the bulb is exposed? These both seem very appropriate for good culture. Best Jim W. On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Chad Cox wrote: Hi Jim, I keep my H. Mandoni mostly dry. I don't give it any water in the winter time and water it about once a week during active growth. I try to let it dry out pretty good in between waterings. I like to use hydroponic fertilizer with most waterings, But sometimes I use a granular bulb fertilizer after which I skip the hydroponic stuff for awhile. I think patience is the main trick to get them to flower. :-) Chad In Elverta CA Zone 8ish( feels like 10 this winter!!) Sent from my iPhone Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jwickham@sbcglobal.net Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <2050506256.1718286.1516491019538@mail.yahoo.com> From: John Wickham Subject: Eucomis Collection Available Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 23:30:19 +0000 (UTC) I'm getting out of the Eucomis business. If you'd like an instant collection, please let me know. I only ask that you pay for shippingE. or arrange for pick-up. Some of these are a little hefty. A list of the collection is posted below. There are between 1 and 6 of each, most are only 1 or 2 each. Some have a few offsets. If there had been more, I would have sent these to the BX for distribution, but there just aren't numbers for that. If interested, you can contact me directly at jwickham@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, John WickhamLos Angeles Eucomis autumnalis 'Waharona Giant'E. bicolorE. 'Burgundy Thrill' E. 'Can Can'E. 'Cherry Blossom'E. 'Cherub'E. comosa 'Maroon Margin'E. 'Crispy Critter'E. 'Freckles'E. 'Innocence'E. 'Glow Sticks'E. 'Leia'E. 'Megaru'E. 'Oakhurst'E. 'Peace Candles'E. 'Rhode Island Red'E. 'Roseum'E. 'Ruben'E. 'Sparkling Rosy'E. 'Toffee'E. 'Twilight Jade'E. 'Twinkle Stars' _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jwickham@sbcglobal.net Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <974952847.1718548.1516491989509@mail.yahoo.com> From: John Wickham Subject: Eucomis Collection Available Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 23:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Wow, that was fast! They found a home. On Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:30 PM, John Wickham wrote: I'm getting out of the Eucomis business. If you'd like an instant collection, please let me know. I only ask that you pay for shippingE. or arrange for pick-up. Some of these are a little hefty. A list of the collection is posted below. There are between 1 and 6 of each, most are only 1 or 2 each. Some have a few offsets. If there had been more, I would have sent these to the BX for distribution, but there just aren't numbers for that. If interested, you can contact me directly at jwickham@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, John WickhamLos Angeles Eucomis autumnalis 'Waharona Giant'E. bicolorE. 'Burgundy Thrill' E. 'Can Can'E. 'Cherry Blossom'E. 'Cherub'E. comosa 'Maroon Margin'E. 'Crispy Critter'E. 'Freckles'E. 'Innocence'E. 'Glow Sticks'E. 'Leia'E. 'Megaru'E. 'Oakhurst'E. 'Peace Candles'E. 'Rhode Island Red'E. 'Roseum'E. 'Ruben'E. 'Sparkling Rosy'E. 'Toffee'E. 'Twilight Jade'E. 'Twinkle Stars' _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From annmram@gmail.com Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Ann Rametta Subject: Eucomis Collection Available Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:09:26 -0800 Where are you located On Jan 20, 2018 3:46 PM, "John Wickham" wrote: > Wow, that was fast! They found a home. > > > On Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:30 PM, John Wickham < > jwickham@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > I'm getting out of the Eucomis business. If you'd like an instant > collection, please let me know. I only ask that you pay for shippingE. or > arrange for pick-up. Some of these are a little hefty. A list of the > collection is posted below. There are between 1 and 6 of each, most are > only 1 or 2 each. Some have a few offsets. If there had been more, I would > have sent these to the BX for distribution, but there just aren't numbers > for that. If interested, you can contact me directly at > jwickham@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, > John WickhamLos Angeles > > > Eucomis autumnalis 'Waharona Giant'E. bicolorE. 'Burgundy Thrill' > E. 'Can Can'E. 'Cherry Blossom'E. 'Cherub'E. comosa 'Maroon Margin'E. > 'Crispy Critter'E. 'Freckles'E. 'Innocence'E. 'Glow Sticks'E. 'Leia'E. > 'Megaru'E. 'Oakhurst'E. 'Peace Candles'E. 'Rhode Island Red'E. 'Roseum'E. > 'Ruben'E. 'Sparkling Rosy'E. 'Toffee'E. 'Twilight Jade'E. 'Twinkle Stars' > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From annmram@gmail.com Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Ann Rametta Subject: Eucomis Collection Available Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:11:48 -0800 You could call me 626 498 6234 to make arrangements for me to pick them up if you would like. On Jan 20, 2018 3:46 PM, "John Wickham" wrote: > Wow, that was fast! They found a home. > > > On Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:30 PM, John Wickham < > jwickham@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > I'm getting out of the Eucomis business. If you'd like an instant > collection, please let me know. I only ask that you pay for shippingE. or > arrange for pick-up. Some of these are a little hefty. A list of the > collection is posted below. There are between 1 and 6 of each, most are > only 1 or 2 each. Some have a few offsets. If there had been more, I would > have sent these to the BX for distribution, but there just aren't numbers > for that. If interested, you can contact me directly at > jwickham@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, > John WickhamLos Angeles > > > Eucomis autumnalis 'Waharona Giant'E. bicolorE. 'Burgundy Thrill' > E. 'Can Can'E. 'Cherry Blossom'E. 'Cherub'E. comosa 'Maroon Margin'E. > 'Crispy Critter'E. 'Freckles'E. 'Innocence'E. 'Glow Sticks'E. 'Leia'E. > 'Megaru'E. 'Oakhurst'E. 'Peace Candles'E. 'Rhode Island Red'E. 'Roseum'E. > 'Ruben'E. 'Sparkling Rosy'E. 'Toffee'E. 'Twilight Jade'E. 'Twinkle Stars' > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From clcox@ucdavis.edu Sun, 21 Jan 2018 07:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <419C6226-F1C7-4466-9652-3BF0EC33E087@ucdavis.edu> From: Chad Cox Subject: Hippeastrum Mandoni Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 06:57:16 -0800 Hi Jim, I use a mix that is around 60 or 70% pumice and the rest organic matter , usually high-quality potting soil. I keep about 2/3 of the bulb exposed. By the way all my advice was learned from Diana Chapman of Telos Rare Bulbs. She has a blog (The Bulb Maven) That has a lot of really good and specific information about growing Hippeastrum species. I hope this helps and good luck! Chad Sent from my iPhone Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > On Jan 21, 2018, at 4:00 AM, wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: List-Archive: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Hippeastrum Mandoni (Chad Cox) > 2. Re: Hippeastrum Mandoni (James Waddick) > 3. Eucomis Collection Available (John Wickham) > 4. Re: Eucomis Collection Available (John Wickham) > 5. Re: Eucomis Collection Available (Ann Rametta) > 6. Re: Eucomis Collection Available (Ann Rametta) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 06:34:06 -0800 > From: Chad Cox > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum Mandoni > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Jim, > > I keep my H. Mandoni mostly dry. I don't give it any water in the winter time and water it about once a week during active growth. I try to let it dry out pretty good in between waterings. I like to use hydroponic fertilizer with most waterings, But sometimes I use a granular bulb fertilizer after which I skip the hydroponic stuff for awhile. I think patience is the main trick to get them to flower. :-) > > Chad > > In Elverta CA Zone 8ish( feels like 10 this winter!!) > > > Sent from my iPhone > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 14:32:47 -0600 > From: James Waddick > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum Mandoni > Message-ID: <9B589DD6-8DC7-4BD0-96DB-4AF59F2C931F@kc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear Chad, > > What soil mix do you use and how much of the bulb is exposed? These both seem very appropriate for good culture. > > Best Jim W. > > > > On Jan 20, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Chad Cox wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I keep my H. Mandoni mostly dry. I don't give it any water in the winter time and water it about once a week during active growth. I try to let it dry out pretty good in between waterings. I like to use hydroponic fertilizer with most waterings, But sometimes I use a granular bulb fertilizer after which I skip the hydroponic stuff for awhile. I think patience is the main trick to get them to flower. :-) > > Chad > > In Elverta CA Zone 8ish( feels like 10 this winter!!) > > > Sent from my iPhone > Chad L. Cox, Ph.D. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 23:30:19 +0000 (UTC) > From: John Wickham > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Eucomis Collection Available > Message-ID: <2050506256.1718286.1516491019538@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I'm getting out of the Eucomis business. If you'd like an instant collection, please let me know. I only ask that you pay for shippingE. or arrange for pick-up. Some of these are a little hefty. A list of the collection is posted below. There are between 1 and 6 of each, most are only 1 or 2 each. Some have a few offsets. If there had been more, I would have sent these to the BX for distribution, but there just aren't numbers for that. If interested, you can contact me directly at jwickham@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, > John WickhamLos Angeles > > > Eucomis autumnalis 'Waharona Giant'E. bicolorE. 'Burgundy Thrill' > E. 'Can Can'E. 'Cherry Blossom'E. 'Cherub'E. comosa 'Maroon Margin'E. 'Crispy Critter'E. 'Freckles'E. 'Innocence'E. 'Glow Sticks'E. 'Leia'E. 'Megaru'E. 'Oakhurst'E. 'Peace Candles'E. 'Rhode Island Red'E. 'Roseum'E. 'Ruben'E. 'Sparkling Rosy'E. 'Toffee'E. 'Twilight Jade'E. 'Twinkle Stars' > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 23:46:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: John Wickham > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Eucomis Collection Available > Message-ID: <974952847.1718548.1516491989509@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Wow, that was fast! They found a home. > > > On Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:30 PM, John Wickham wrote: > > > I'm getting out of the Eucomis business. If you'd like an instant collection, please let me know. I only ask that you pay for shippingE. or arrange for pick-up. Some of these are a little hefty. A list of the collection is posted below. There are between 1 and 6 of each, most are only 1 or 2 each. Some have a few offsets. If there had been more, I would have sent these to the BX for distribution, but there just aren't numbers for that. If interested, you can contact me directly at jwickham@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, > John WickhamLos Angeles > > > Eucomis autumnalis 'Waharona Giant'E. bicolorE. 'Burgundy Thrill' > E. 'Can Can'E. 'Cherry Blossom'E. 'Cherub'E. comosa 'Maroon Margin'E. 'Crispy Critter'E. 'Freckles'E. 'Innocence'E. 'Glow Sticks'E. 'Leia'E. 'Megaru'E. 'Oakhurst'E. 'Peace Candles'E. 'Rhode Island Red'E. 'Roseum'E. 'Ruben'E. 'Sparkling Rosy'E. 'Toffee'E. 'Twilight Jade'E. 'Twinkle Stars' > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:09:26 -0800 > From: Ann Rametta > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Eucomis Collection Available > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Where are you located > >> On Jan 20, 2018 3:46 PM, "John Wickham" wrote: >> >> Wow, that was fast! They found a home. >> >> >> On Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:30 PM, John Wickham < >> jwickham@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >> I'm getting out of the Eucomis business. If you'd like an instant >> collection, please let me know. I only ask that you pay for shippingE. or >> arrange for pick-up. Some of these are a little hefty. A list of the >> collection is posted below. There are between 1 and 6 of each, most are >> only 1 or 2 each. Some have a few offsets. If there had been more, I would >> have sent these to the BX for distribution, but there just aren't numbers >> for that. If interested, you can contact me directly at >> jwickham@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, >> John WickhamLos Angeles >> >> >> Eucomis autumnalis 'Waharona Giant'E. bicolorE. 'Burgundy Thrill' >> E. 'Can Can'E. 'Cherry Blossom'E. 'Cherub'E. comosa 'Maroon Margin'E. >> 'Crispy Critter'E. 'Freckles'E. 'Innocence'E. 'Glow Sticks'E. 'Leia'E. >> 'Megaru'E. 'Oakhurst'E. 'Peace Candles'E. 'Rhode Island Red'E. 'Roseum'E. >> 'Ruben'E. 'Sparkling Rosy'E. 'Toffee'E. 'Twilight Jade'E. 'Twinkle Stars' >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2018 16:11:48 -0800 > From: Ann Rametta > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Eucomis Collection Available > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > You could call me 626 498 6234 to make arrangements for me to pick them up > if you would like. > >> On Jan 20, 2018 3:46 PM, "John Wickham" wrote: >> >> Wow, that was fast! They found a home. >> >> >> On Saturday, January 20, 2018 3:30 PM, John Wickham < >> jwickham@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >> I'm getting out of the Eucomis business. If you'd like an instant >> collection, please let me know. I only ask that you pay for shippingE. or >> arrange for pick-up. Some of these are a little hefty. A list of the >> collection is posted below. There are between 1 and 6 of each, most are >> only 1 or 2 each. Some have a few offsets. If there had been more, I would >> have sent these to the BX for distribution, but there just aren't numbers >> for that. If interested, you can contact me directly at >> jwickham@sbcglobal.net. Thanks, >> John WickhamLos Angeles >> >> >> Eucomis autumnalis 'Waharona Giant'E. bicolorE. 'Burgundy Thrill' >> E. 'Can Can'E. 'Cherry Blossom'E. 'Cherub'E. comosa 'Maroon Margin'E. >> 'Crispy Critter'E. 'Freckles'E. 'Innocence'E. 'Glow Sticks'E. 'Leia'E. >> 'Megaru'E. 'Oakhurst'E. 'Peace Candles'E. 'Rhode Island Red'E. 'Roseum'E. >> 'Ruben'E. 'Sparkling Rosy'E. 'Toffee'E. 'Twilight Jade'E. 'Twinkle Stars' >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 17 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From haweha@hotmail.com Sun, 21 Jan 2018 08:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Hans-Werner Hammen Subject: Hippeastrum Mandoni Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 15:29:00 +0000 The Substrate of choice for Hippeastrums is "Einheitserde" which is the German Name for a commercialized mixture of light-brown, fluffy, lesser-decomposed peat with a small amount of clay and fertilizers. The Substrate temperature is 24° Celsius is not even slighly above. BUT anyone who is successfully applying lower temperatures should ignore this temperature suggestion. The watering technique is contributing more than it is generally akknowledged. Either water from above, pervasively, then let the substrate dry out almost completely ("cycling") or provide water from below, every day. In either case provide water fortified with a small amount of fertilizer. If the water is containing a lot of Calcium/Magnesium/Sulphate then use a liquid fertilizer If the water is containing but few Minerals then add a Suspension of solid blue grain fertilizer in water In either case add around 0.3 g of solids from fertilizer per Liter of water. Happy Greenhouse-- and windowsill gardening! _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jsloyd61@icloud.com Sun, 21 Jan 2018 08:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <3EC1B6B8-EE7B-4850-8F19-9A022D3CAE41@icloud.com> From: Janet Loyd Subject: Payment Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:10:07 -0500 If it’s not too much trouble can you confirm payment received for box 434 this is first time I have paid wanted to make sure I sent it to correct address Thx Janet Loyd Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: James Waddick Subject: Hippeastrum Mandoni Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:32:00 -0600 Thanks to all for commentary about this species. I indulged in a lot of Diana Chapman’s blog post on many Hippeastrum species and found them most useful. Starting with this web page http://www.thebulbmaven.typepad.com I recommend going back to the beginning and reading them all. Really good stuff. Thanks Diana. and thanks to all. For the record I repotted my bulbs with more of the bulb exposed (just over 1/2) in a grittier soil with a mix of free draining gravels and a small dash of fertilizer. Now we need some spring/summer warmth to make it fully happy. Best Jim W. On Jan 21, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Hans-Werner Hammen wrote: The Substrate of choice for Hippeastrums is "Einheitserde" which is the German Name for a commercialized mixture of light-brown, fluffy, lesser-decomposed peat with a small amount of clay and fertilizers. The Substrate temperature is 24° Celsius is not even slighly above. BUT anyone who is successfully applying lower temperatures should ignore this temperature suggestion. The watering technique is contributing more than it is generally akknowledged. Either water from above, pervasively, then let the substrate dry out almost completely ("cycling") or provide water from below, every day. In either case provide water fortified with a small amount of fertilizer. If the water is containing a lot of Calcium/Magnesium/Sulphate then use a liquid fertilizer If the water is containing but few Minerals then add a Suspension of solid blue grain fertilizer in water In either case add around 0.3 g of solids from fertilizer per Liter of water. Happy Greenhouse-- and windowsill gardening! _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Tue, 23 Jan 2018 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <00F7A499-46BB-45FA-9D1B-807E20138575@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Canarina Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:42:22 -0600 Dear PBSers, Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse? I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers to share? How hot can it take it in summer when dormant? Thanks for input. Best Jim W. Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From janemcgary@earthlink.net Tue, 23 Jan 2018 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <5369d096-3c24-e3be-7866-ba6e965bc176@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Canarina Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:48:04 -0800 I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered, having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover. However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta pot with one drain hole. The tuber plugged the drain hole and then rotted. So if you grow it, consider that the tuber becomes very large (as far as I can tell, it doesn't offset) and can easily plug any drainage openings. If I got one again, I'd plant it directly in the side of my bulb house that has a raised bed, not in the side that has plunged pots. I imagine it can take any amount of heat when dormant as long as it isn't in a plastic pot that is not plunged. If you have to put it in a free-standing plastic pot, I'd move it into the shade during summer. Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote: > Dear PBSers, > > Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse? I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers to share? > > How hot can it take it in summer when dormant? > > Thanks for input. Best Jim W. > > > Dr. James Waddick > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From mmattus@charter.net Tue, 23 Jan 2018 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Matt Mattus Subject: Canarina Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:52:30 -0500 I’ve been growing Canarina for three years now in a cold, glass greenhouse (40° F min.) as a winter growing plant, but have had little luck with it as I think it just needed to mature a bit. Not sure if it was too cold, or wet. This year, it emerged with great vigor and looked promising in its 12 inch clay pot but a couple weeks in early January (during the N.E. cold ‘Bomb Cyclone’) the greenhouse must have dipped down colder near the glass and it is now frozen. I am guessing that the roots are still OK, but I am not expecting blossoms this year. That said, all of the tuberous tropaeolum species survived as did most plants (aside from a bonsai Jade Plant) which led me to think that the Canarina was tender. Matt Mattus USDA Zone 5B Worcester, MA USA On 1/23/18, 4:48 PM, "pbs on behalf of Jane McGary" wrote: I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered, having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover. However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta pot with one drain hole. On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote: > Dear PBSers, > > Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse? I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers to share? > > How hot can it take it in summer when dormant? > > Thanks for input. Best Jim W. > > > Dr. James Waddick > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From wpoulsen@pacbell.net Tue, 23 Jan 2018 15:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <873C6A28-57AB-4947-9232-4F316F222900@pacbell.net> From: Lee Poulsen Subject: Canarina Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:42:57 -0800 This is another one of those winter growing plants that does not like radiation frosts on its exposed leaves. Paramongaia weberbaueri is another. (I now mark those species with their own special label.) The bulb or tuber doesn’t mind. Being in southern California, I grow these outside, but now I always place the pots for these under some kind of overhead cover like a tree with leaves or shade cloth or the overhanging eaves of the house. I keep it outside all summer as well with my other dormant winter growers—which is a shaded area. It doesn’t seem to mind any of the hot days we get here during the summer and they get no water from the time they go dormant until mid-autumn. They just get larger each year; I just pot them into larger pots. Otherwise they require very little care. --Lee Poulsen Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > On Jan 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Matt Mattus wrote: > > I’ve been growing Canarina for three years now in a cold, glass greenhouse (40° F min.) as a winter growing plant, but have had little luck with it as I think it just needed to mature a bit. > > Not sure if it was too cold, or wet. This year, it emerged with great vigor and looked promising in its 12 inch clay pot but a couple weeks in early January (during the N.E. cold ‘Bomb Cyclone’) the greenhouse must have dipped down colder near the glass and it is now frozen. I am guessing that the roots are still OK, but I am not expecting blossoms this year. > > That said, all of the tuberous tropaeolum species survived as did most plants (aside from a bonsai Jade Plant) which led me to think that the Canarina was tender. > > Matt Mattus > USDA Zone 5B > Worcester, MA USA > > On 1/23/18, 4:48 PM, "pbs on behalf of Jane McGary" wrote: > > I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered, > having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover. > However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta pot > with one drain hole. > On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote: >> Dear PBSers, >> >> Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse? I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers to share? >> >> How hot can it take it in summer when dormant? >> >> Thanks for input. Best Jim W. >> >> >> Dr. James Waddick >> > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From ben.zonneveld@naturalis.nl Wed, 24 Jan 2018 07:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Ben Zonneveld Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 20 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 15:19:08 +0100 I have growing Canarina from seed some years ago in The Netherlands (not far from the coast).They flowered after two or three years. Unfortunately, despite having two different plants they dont flower at precise the same time so no seed yet. I must try harder. This year they started growing in late summer, both the plant I kept fully dry in the greenhouse (up to 40 C)as the plant I kept outside and receiving summer rains. In late autumn /winter/spring I keep them in an unheated room (low temp about 10C, so frost free)They are now just past flowering.When they start wilting I dont give any water anymore. By the way, they might come from cuttings. A young stem broke away from the tuber (not really a cutting ss) and grew away happily after planting in my greenhouse (winter temp minimum 5C) so my receipy: keep them dry in summer and frost free in winter Ben Zonneveld 2018-01-24 13:00 GMT+01:00 : > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: List-Archive: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Canarina (James Waddick) > 2. Re: Canarina (Jane McGary) > 3. Re: Canarina (Matt Mattus) > 4. Re: Canarina (Lee Poulsen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:42:22 -0600 > From: James Waddick > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: <00F7A499-46BB-45FA-9D1B-807E20138575@kc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear PBSers, > > Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse? > I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers > to share? > > How hot can it take it in summer when dormant? > > Thanks for input. Best Jim W. > > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:48:04 -0800 > From: Jane McGary > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: <5369d096-3c24-e3be-7866-ba6e965bc176@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered, > having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover. > However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta pot > with one drain hole. The tuber plugged the drain hole and then rotted. > So if you grow it, consider that the tuber becomes very large (as far as > I can tell, it doesn't offset) and can easily plug any drainage > openings. If I got one again, I'd plant it directly in the side of my > bulb house that has a raised bed, not in the side that has plunged pots. > I imagine it can take any amount of heat when dormant as long as it > isn't in a plastic pot that is not plunged. If you have to put it in a > free-standing plastic pot, I'd move it into the shade during summer. > > Jane McGary > > Portland, Oregon, USA > > > On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote: > > Dear PBSers, > > > > Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse? > I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers > to share? > > > > How hot can it take it in summer when dormant? > > > > Thanks for input. Best Jim W. > > > > > > Dr. James Waddick > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:52:30 -0500 > From: Matt Mattus > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I?ve been growing Canarina for three years now in a cold, glass greenhouse > (40? F min.) as a winter growing plant, but have had little luck with it as > I think it just needed to mature a bit. > > Not sure if it was too cold, or wet. This year, it emerged with great > vigor and looked promising in its 12 inch clay pot but a couple weeks in > early January (during the N.E. cold ?Bomb Cyclone?) the greenhouse must > have dipped down colder near the glass and it is now frozen. I am guessing > that the roots are still OK, but I am not expecting blossoms this year. > > That said, all of the tuberous tropaeolum species survived as did most > plants (aside from a bonsai Jade Plant) which led me to think that the > Canarina was tender. > > Matt Mattus > USDA Zone 5B > Worcester, MA USA > > On 1/23/18, 4:48 PM, "pbs on behalf of Jane McGary" pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of janemcgary@earthlink.net> wrote: > > I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered, > having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover. > However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta > pot > with one drain hole. > On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote: > > Dear PBSers, > > > > Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse? > I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers > to share? > > > > How hot can it take it in summer when dormant? > > > > Thanks for input. Best Jim W. > > > > > > Dr. James Waddick > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:42:57 -0800 > From: Lee Poulsen > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: <873C6A28-57AB-4947-9232-4F316F222900@pacbell.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > This is another one of those winter growing plants that does not like > radiation frosts on its exposed leaves. Paramongaia weberbaueri is another. > (I now mark those species with their own special label.) The bulb or tuber > doesn?t mind. Being in southern California, I grow these outside, but now I > always place the pots for these under some kind of overhead cover like a > tree with leaves or shade cloth or the overhanging eaves of the house. > > I keep it outside all summer as well with my other dormant winter > growers?which is a shaded area. It doesn?t seem to mind any of the hot days > we get here during the summer and they get no water from the time they go > dormant until mid-autumn. They just get larger each year; I just pot them > into larger pots. Otherwise they require very little care. > > --Lee Poulsen > Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a > Latitude 34?N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > > > On Jan 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Matt Mattus wrote: > > > > I?ve been growing Canarina for three years now in a cold, glass > greenhouse (40? F min.) as a winter growing plant, but have had little luck > with it as I think it just needed to mature a bit. > > > > Not sure if it was too cold, or wet. This year, it emerged with great > vigor and looked promising in its 12 inch clay pot but a couple weeks in > early January (during the N.E. cold ?Bomb Cyclone?) the greenhouse must > have dipped down colder near the glass and it is now frozen. I am guessing > that the roots are still OK, but I am not expecting blossoms this year. > > > > That said, all of the tuberous tropaeolum species survived as did most > plants (aside from a bonsai Jade Plant) which led me to think that the > Canarina was tender. > > > > Matt Mattus > > USDA Zone 5B > > Worcester, MA USA > > > > On 1/23/18, 4:48 PM, "pbs on behalf of Jane McGary" pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of janemcgary@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered, > > having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover. > > However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta > pot > > with one drain hole. > > On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote: > >> Dear PBSers, > >> > >> Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse? > I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers > to share? > >> > >> How hot can it take it in summer when dormant? > >> > >> Thanks for input. Best Jim W. > >> > >> > >> Dr. James Waddick > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 20 > *********************************** > -- BJM Zonneveld Naturalis, Herbarium section Postbox 9517 Vondellaan 55, 2300RA Leiden The Netherlands Email: ben.zonneveld@naturalis.nl , telf 071-7517228 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de Wed, 24 Jan 2018 07:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <78447BFD-B536-463D-95B1-5997109DA58B@t-online.de> From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban Subject: Canarina canariensis Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:58:27 +0000 Dear All, Here is a modified post I sent to this list last October. I very strongly recommend growing Canarina in the open ground and not in pots. It can of course grow in pots but the difference to a plant in the open ground is striking. When my pot grown specimen was planted in a well lit corner of my former greenhouse in Germany more than 10 years ago it became a showstopper. Better and bigger every year. The tuber became so big that it raised the soil around the plant. I tried to dig it out when I moved to Portugal, unthinkable. So I wholeheartedly pushed a sharp spade right through it and got a good piece of dormant tuber with tiny purple buds. It had to go back into a pot because my new garden in Portugal is not yet ready for such a permanent plant. It forgave me the brutal treatment and has sprouted vigorously. It is a particularly large flowered form which I bought in a special nursery many years ago and as it is single cloned it never sets seed. Do allocate it a lot of space and some robust partner it can scramble through, I used a grapevine. My plant made shoots more than 4m long and flowered for several months in winter. A magnificent plant! Do never prune the shoots as the buds are always terminal. The plant requires a lot of water and benefits from fertilizer but it does not tolerate any frost whatsoever. I have seen it in its native habitat which is in the foggy zone of the Canary Islands, cool but absolutely frost free. I fully agree with Lee‘s comment. To update on my plant that was grown from the division: it is okay in its pot but has not flowered. The mother plant in Germany has not suffered and is flowering. As soon as I have a proper planting space I will set my potted specimen free. The dormant tuber does not like to bake in hot dry conditions. In its native habitat it remains slightly moist even during the dry season. My plant has always been tolerant of summer watering. Warm temperatures in spring will induce dormancy so keep it as cool as possible for as long as possible. Dormancy is short, my plant always sprang back to life at the end of August. A robust and very rewarding plant in the right place. Uli Von meinem iPad gesendet _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From msittner@mcn.org Wed, 24 Jan 2018 12:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mary Sue Ittner Subject: Canarina canariensis Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 11:56:32 -0800 It is so often interesting to read about people's experiences growing plants as they so often differ. I've felt one of the benefits of this list over the years is learning there may be more than one way to success. My experience with this plant is very different from some of the others. I grew it from seed in 2000 and it started flowering in 2005 and has been flowering every year since. I've been leaving mine in my unheated greenhouse as it seemed happier not being exposed to a lot of winter rainfall. We do occasionally get frost as well. It is in a large plastic pot which Jane says is not a good idea and it hasn't been repotted in years. It is supposed to be a heavy feeder, but I've neglected it and that may explain why it hasn't outgrown its container. I'd probably get more flowers if I fertilized more. I've not moved it outside into the shade in summer like Lee advises and my greenhouse can get much warmer than outside temperatures. It has survived being kept completely dry after it goes dormant. Looking over some old posts from Uli I see he advised not to keep it dry during dormancy. He wrote: > They grow in relatively high altitudes in the cloud belt forests where > it is > moist and cool all year (I have never been there in summer but it will > not be > hot and dry there) Perhaps this has not been a problem since my summer temperatures are mild and only occasionally very hot and then not more than a few days at a time. I also see that Diana Chapman who also lives in a coastal Northern California climate like mine found hers did not flower well unless grown in a greenhouse. I do stake mine a bit when it is growing and it would probably like more room to grow than it gets. No doubt our individually different experiences are explained by our different environmental conditions. That's another reason why it is a good idea to include location information with advice. Mary Sue coastal Northern California, wet mild winters, dry mild summers _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From Sevanetz@telus.net Wed, 24 Jan 2018 22:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <307822AF-7F9B-4458-A313-4D10712EAC3E@telus.net> From: Sue Evanetz Subject: Canarina canariensis Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 22:05:58 -0800 Ok that’s enough already. How do I get started with one? It sounds just too delectable. Does anyone in Canada have a little bulb extra? I would be happy to remunerate. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 24, 2018, at 6:58 AM, Johannes-Ulrich Urban wrote: > > Dear All, > > Here is a modified post I sent to this list last October. > I very strongly recommend growing Canarina in the open ground and not in pots. It can of course grow in pots but the difference to a plant in the open ground is striking. When my pot grown specimen was planted in a well lit corner of my former greenhouse in Germany more than 10 years ago it became a showstopper. Better and bigger every year. The tuber became so big that it raised the soil around the plant. I tried to dig it out when I moved to Portugal, unthinkable. So I wholeheartedly pushed a sharp spade right through it and got a good piece of dormant tuber with tiny purple buds. It had to go back into a pot because my new garden in Portugal is not yet ready for such a permanent plant. It forgave me the brutal treatment and has sprouted vigorously. It is a particularly large flowered form which I bought in a special nursery many years ago and as it is single cloned it never sets seed. Do allocate it a lot of space > and some robust partner it can scramble through, I used a grapevine. My plant made shoots more than 4m long and flowered for several months in winter. > A magnificent plant! > Do never prune the shoots as the buds are always terminal. The plant requires a lot of water and benefits from fertilizer but it does not tolerate any frost whatsoever. I have seen it in its native habitat which is in the foggy zone of the Canary Islands, cool but absolutely frost free. I fully agree with Lee‘s comment. > To update on my plant that was grown from the division: it is okay in its pot but has not flowered. The mother plant in Germany has not suffered and is flowering. As soon as I have a proper planting space I will set my potted specimen free. > The dormant tuber does not like to bake in hot dry conditions. In its native habitat it remains slightly moist even during the dry season. My plant has always been tolerant of summer watering. Warm temperatures in spring will induce dormancy so keep it as cool as possible for as long as possible. Dormancy is short, my plant always sprang back to life at the end of August. > > A robust and very rewarding plant in the right place. > > Uli > > Von meinem iPad gesendet > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From erik@tepuidesign.com Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:17:06 -0800 Message-Id: From: Erik Van Lennep Subject: Canarina Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:20:44 +0100 ​I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ​remain viable. Any insights? Erik van Lennep Barcelona, Spain _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From eez55@earthlink.net Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:17:06 -0800 Message-Id: <1485143349.5269.1516897780218@wamui-jasmine.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: Eugene Zielinski Subject: Canarina Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:29:39 -0700 (GMT-07:00) I received C. canariensis seeds for a commercial source, and they germinated within a month at warm temperatures (70-75 F; 21-24 C). So, they are not affected by dry storage and are probably viable for at least one year. Eugene Zielinski Prescott Valley, Arizona USA -----Original Message----- >From: Erik Van Lennep >Sent: Jan 25, 2018 9:20 AM >To: Pacific Bulb Society >Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > >​I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ​remain viable. Any insights? > >Erik van Lennep >Barcelona, Spain >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From pamela@polson.com Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:17:06 -0800 Message-Id: From: Pamela Harlow Subject: Canarina Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 08:40:10 -0800 Annie's Annuals has Canarina now, $14.95 for a 4" pot. On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Erik Van Lennep wrote: > ​I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ​remain viable. Any insights? > > Erik van Lennep > Barcelona, Spain > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:17:06 -0800 Message-Id: From: oooOIOooo via pbs Subject: Canarina canariensis Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:04:02 -0500 Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no longer. I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA Zone 9? Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From wpoulsen@pacbell.net Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:17:06 -0800 Message-Id: From: Lee Poulsen Subject: Missing E-mails Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:09:48 -0800 Hi Al, Thanks for the bulbs! Didn’t know you would send more than one, and they’re big! I gathered a few items for you last weekend but didn’t get them sent off, got busy at work, and so they’ve been sitting there. But I plan to package them and ship them off to you this weekend. —Lee > On Jan 16, 2018, at 7:23 AM, Albert Stella wrote: > > That’s it?! > I think I can make that happen. I don’t have any smaller bulbs left but I can send you a big one if that works? > Shoot me your mailing address, I’ll have it out by tomorrow. > > Al > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:18 AM, David Pilling wrote: >> >> Hi Fred, >> >>> On 16/01/2018 14:15, Fred Biasella wrote: >>> I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but for some goofy reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS. >> >> We are involved in an endless struggle against internet suppliers who block emails from the list. >> >> Aol is a frequent offender, but having said that I can't see from the mail list management console that aol is currently blocking. >> >> Yes, you should white list the pbs list, and check in spam folders. >> >> The contents of the list appear on the PBS web site, so you can see if what you get matches what is being sent out. >> >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive >> >> From that page, you can subscribe to an RSS feed - possibly ancient technology now but a way of keeping in touch with developments requiring little effort. >> >> We have occasionally suggested to people to open a gmail account, these seem less prone to block posts and can be set up to forward to one other email account. >> >> The people who block this list, also block "normal" emails, so it's not an easy problem to fix. >> >> >> >> -- >> David Pilling >> www.davidpilling.com >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From mmattus@charter.net Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Matt Mattus Subject: Canarina canariensis Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:28:11 -0500 I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if necc. Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. Note this: Guerney’s was purchased 2001 by US owned ‘Garden’s Alive’, a catalog aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. Worth noting that Garden’s Alive also own a library of other former seed and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in 2010. A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and attempts to turn them around. I can’t imagine that they have been able to turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. Parks too was bought out by a On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" wrote: Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no longer. I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA Zone 9? Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jwaddick@kc.rr.com Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <55CF8D70-CD7A-4C93-B4ED-3B9900031C67@kc.rr.com> From: James Waddick Subject: Canarina canariensis Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:46:06 -0600 Dear PBS friends, Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous plant. I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over night. Even if dormant. My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny afternoon. Then there’s finding a plant. Yes Annie’s Annuals lists it, but unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time. And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day. Many thanks for all the input and cultural details. Best Jim W. On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus wrote: I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if necc. Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. Note this: Guerney’s was purchased 2001 by US owned ‘Garden’s Alive’, a catalog aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. Worth noting that Garden’s Alive also own a library of other former seed and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in 2010. A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and attempts to turn them around. I can’t imagine that they have been able to turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. Parks too was bought out by a On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" wrote: Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no longer. I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA Zone 9? Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From ptallbo@gmail.com Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Peter Tallbo Subject: Canarina canariensis Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:05:03 +0100 There are seeds available here : http://www.rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp?strParents=0,70&CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1 and they are shipping to USA. Regards Peter Tallbo Sweden 2018-01-25 21:46 GMT+01:00 James Waddick : > Dear PBS friends, > > Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous > plant. I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here > where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over > night. Even if dormant. > > My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it > was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny > afternoon. > > Then there’s finding a plant. Yes Annie’s Annuals lists it, but > unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping > making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time. > > And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google > search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day. > > Many thanks for all the input and cultural details. > Best Jim W. > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus wrote: > > I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if > necc. > > Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. > > Note this: > > Guerney’s was purchased 2001 by US owned ‘Garden’s Alive’, a catalog > aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that > purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the > UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. > > Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M > remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. > > Worth noting that Garden’s Alive also own a library of other former seed > and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, > Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few > as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. > > Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in > 2010. > A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and > attempts to turn them around. I can’t imagine that they have been able to > turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a > rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. > > > Parks too was bought out by a > > On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" < > pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > longer. > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From erik@tepuidesign.com Fri, 26 Jan 2018 01:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Erik Van Lennep Subject: Canarina canariensis Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 10:04:56 +0100 ​It also shows up in the seed exchanges for some of the alpine gardening societies. erik​ ​..........​ On 25 January 2018 at 22:05, Peter Tallbo wrote: > There are seeds available here : > > http://www.rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp?strParents=0,70& > CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1 > > and they are shipping to USA. > > Regards > Peter Tallbo > Sweden > > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From nance.chu@gmail.com Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Nancy Chu Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 22 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 09:29:56 -0800 Such a gorgeous plant. Anyone knows source to C. canariensis seeds ? On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:05 AM, wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: List-Archive: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Canarina (Erik Van Lennep) > 2. Re: Canarina (Eugene Zielinski) > 3. Re: Canarina (Pamela Harlow) > 4. Re: Canarina canariensis (oooOIOooo) > 5. Re: Missing E-mails (Lee Poulsen) > 6. Re: Canarina canariensis (Matt Mattus) > 7. Re: Canarina canariensis (James Waddick) > 8. Re: Canarina canariensis (Peter Tallbo) > 9. Re: Canarina canariensis (Erik Van Lennep) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:20:44 +0100 > From: Erik Van Lennep > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > ?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights? > > Erik van Lennep > Barcelona, Spain > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:29:39 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Eugene Zielinski > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: > <1485143349.5269.1516897780218@wamui-jasmine.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I received C. canariensis seeds for a commercial source, and they > germinated within a month at warm temperatures (70-75 F; 21-24 C). So, > they are not affected by dry storage and are probably viable for at least > one year. > > Eugene Zielinski > Prescott Valley, Arizona > USA > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Erik Van Lennep > >Sent: Jan 25, 2018 9:20 AM > >To: Pacific Bulb Society > >Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > > > >?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights? > > > >Erik van Lennep > >Barcelona, Spain > >_______________________________________________ > >pbs mailing list > >pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 08:40:10 -0800 > From: Pamela Harlow > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Annie's Annuals has Canarina now, $14.95 for a 4" pot. > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Erik Van Lennep > wrote: > > > ?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights? > > > > Erik van Lennep > > Barcelona, Spain > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:04:02 -0500 > From: oooOIOooo > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: > 43GQqwfKsGkRUe8OtQaqxIMe27YPkQKctM6QHlRDIkR_FRZHNSius=@protonmail.ch> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > longer. > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:09:48 -0800 > From: Lee Poulsen > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Missing E-mails > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Al, > > Thanks for the bulbs! Didn?t know you would send more than one, and > they?re big! I gathered a few items for you last weekend but didn?t get > them sent off, got busy at work, and so they?ve been sitting there. But I > plan to package them and ship them off to you this weekend. > > ?Lee > > > On Jan 16, 2018, at 7:23 AM, Albert Stella > wrote: > > > > That?s it?! > > I think I can make that happen. I don?t have any smaller bulbs left but > I can send you a big one if that works? > > Shoot me your mailing address, I?ll have it out by tomorrow. > > > > Al > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:18 AM, David Pilling > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Fred, > >> > >>> On 16/01/2018 14:15, Fred Biasella wrote: > >>> I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but for some goofy > reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS. > >> > >> We are involved in an endless struggle against internet suppliers who > block emails from the list. > >> > >> Aol is a frequent offender, but having said that I can't see from the > mail list management console that aol is currently blocking. > >> > >> Yes, you should white list the pbs list, and check in spam folders. > >> > >> The contents of the list appear on the PBS web site, so you can see if > what you get matches what is being sent out. > >> > >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive > >> > >> From that page, you can subscribe to an RSS feed - possibly ancient > technology now but a way of keeping in touch with developments requiring > little effort. > >> > >> We have occasionally suggested to people to open a gmail account, these > seem less prone to block posts and can be set up to forward to one other > email account. > >> > >> The people who block this list, also block "normal" emails, so it's not > an easy problem to fix. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David Pilling > >> www.davidpilling.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:28:11 -0500 > From: Matt Mattus > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: oooOIOooo > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if > necc. > > Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. > > Note this: > > Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog > aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that > purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the > UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. > > Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M > remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. > > Worth noting that Garden?s Alive also own a library of other former seed > and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, > Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few > as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. > > Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in > 2010. > A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and > attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to > turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a > rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. > > > Parks too was bought out by a > > On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" < > pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > longer. > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:46:06 -0600 > From: James Waddick > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: <55CF8D70-CD7A-4C93-B4ED-3B9900031C67@kc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Dear PBS friends, > > Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous > plant. I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here > where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over > night. Even if dormant. > > My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it > was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny > afternoon. > > Then there?s finding a plant. Yes Annie?s Annuals lists it, but > unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping > making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time. > > And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google > search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day. > > Many thanks for all the input and cultural details. > Best Jim W. > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus wrote: > > I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if > necc. > > Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. > > Note this: > > Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog > aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that > purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the > UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. > > Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M > remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. > > Worth noting that Garden?s Alive also own a library of other former seed > and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, > Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few > as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. > > Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in > 2010. > A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and > attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to > turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a > rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. > > > Parks too was bought out by a > > On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" < > pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > longer. > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:05:03 +0100 > From: Peter Tallbo > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > There are seeds available here : > > http://www.rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp?strParents=0,70& > CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1 > > and they are shipping to USA. > > Regards > Peter Tallbo > Sweden > > 2018-01-25 21:46 GMT+01:00 James Waddick : > > > Dear PBS friends, > > > > Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous > > plant. I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here > > where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over > > night. Even if dormant. > > > > My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it > > was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny > > afternoon. > > > > Then there?s finding a plant. Yes Annie?s Annuals lists it, but > > unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping > > making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time. > > > > And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google > > search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day. > > > > Many thanks for all the input and cultural details. > > Best Jim W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus wrote: > > > > I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if > > necc. > > > > Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. > > > > Note this: > > > > Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog > > aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that > > purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from > the > > UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. > > > > Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M > > remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. > > > > Worth noting that Garden?s Alive also own a library of other former seed > > and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, > > Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few > > as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. > > > > Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital > in > > 2010. > > A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and > > attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to > > turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a > > rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. > > > > > > Parks too was bought out by a > > > > On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" < > > pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > > longer. > > > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold > to > > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is > most > > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > > > Leo Martin > > Phoenix Arizona USA > > Zone 9? > > > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > Dr. James Waddick > > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > > USA > > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 10:04:56 +0100 > From: Erik Van Lennep > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > ?It also shows up in the seed exchanges for some of the alpine gardening > societies. > > erik? > > ?..........? > > On 25 January 2018 at 22:05, Peter Tallbo wrote: > > > There are seeds available here : > > > > http://www.rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp?strParents=0,70& > > CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1 > > > > and they are shipping to USA. > > > > Regards > > Peter Tallbo > > Sweden > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 22 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From jane@deskhenge.com Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <62e179fc-6733-aafc-d40a-889d8d20ebec@deskhenge.com> From: Jane Sargent Subject: Canarina Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:07:55 -0500 Here in Central Massachusetts, Canarina is only a dream. We have snow and ice on the ground. Perhaps I shouldn´t mention this non-bulb, but anual Rhodochiton atrosanguineum vines come from seed and flower promptly, with reddish bells not too different from Canarina, at least from a distance. Seeds are for sale at kitchengardenseeds.com, with which I have no ties. Jane Sargent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From ptallbo@gmail.com Sat, 27 Jan 2018 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Peter Tallbo Subject: Canarina Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 19:39:26 +0100 What's this new thread, there were a thread about this specie..... and links to sources who had seeds, why another one?? Regards Peter Tallbo Sweden Den 27 jan. 2018 19:08 skrev "Jane Sargent" : > Here in Central Massachusetts, Canarina is only a dream. We have snow and > ice on the ground. > > Perhaps I shouldn´t mention this non-bulb, but anual Rhodochiton > atrosanguineum vines come from seed and flower promptly, with reddish bells > not too different from Canarina, at least from a distance. Seeds are for > sale at kitchengardenseeds.com, with which I have no ties. > > Jane Sargent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From arnold140@verizon.net Sun, 28 Jan 2018 18:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <1613faf2241-1712-d4d75@webjas-vae189.srv.aolmail.net> From: Arnold Trachtenberg Subject: Bulb Garden Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 21:11:37 -0500 The next edition of the Bulb Garden is in the mail. You will see an expiration date on the line next to your name. If you think there is an error. Please contact me or Jane McGary, our Director of Memberships. {janemcgary@earthlink.net} You will find a very heart felt article on Dell Sherk as he has retired from running BX/SX for many years and a short introduction on our new BX/SX Director, Al Stella. I urge everyone to catch up on overdue BX/SX payments and renew memberships. Thanks you all for supporting the Pacific Bulb Society all these many years. Arnold Trachtenberg arnold140@verizon.net _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From annmram@gmail.com Sun, 28 Jan 2018 19:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Ann Rametta Subject: Homeria bulbs Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 19:00:58 -0800 Hello members, hoping someone can share some of their homeria bulbs to me. Over the years I have shared them in the BX list and now they are missing from my garden. Please help I'm happy to pay shipping contact me at email listed _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From msittner@mcn.org Mon, 29 Jan 2018 07:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <0dd1fd23-3eee-c586-6ea8-103f8191850e@mcn.org> From: Mary Sue Ittner Subject: Homeria bulbs Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 07:14:49 -0800 I believe that people stopped sharing these with the BX when they were declared noxious weeds. https://www.federalregister.gov/d/00-13158/p-3 I don't know what written permit would be required. The irony is that some species are challenging to grow and most species probably wouldn't survive in cold climates. I found this update from 2010 from the Weed Science Society: Both §§360.200(c) and 361.6(a)(1) contain entries for Homeria spp. However, this genus, and several other genera from the family Iridaceae, have been reclassified and transferred to the large genus Moraea. The PRA prepared to help evaluate whether we should add Homeria spp. to the noxious weed list considered specific species within the genus Homeria. These species are now classified as Moraea collina, M. flaccida, M. miniata, M. ochroleuca, and M. pallida. Accordingly, we would update the regulations by removing the entry for Homeria spp. from both §§360.200(c) and 361.6(a)(1) and adding entries for M. collina, M. flaccida, M. miniata, M. ochroleuca, and M. pallida in its place. I don't know if this distinction was adopted by the federal government, but the species listed are some of the ones that are easiest to grow in California and therefore have the greatest weed potential. Mary Sue On 1/28/2018 7:00 PM, Ann Rametta wrote: > Hello members, hoping someone can share some of their homeria bulbs to me. > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From paolo.monicelli@gmail.com Tue, 30 Jan 2018 02:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: paolo monicelli Subject: (no subject) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:20:22 +0100 Mail priva di virus. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From michaelcmace@gmail.com Tue, 30 Jan 2018 09:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <0d7601d399eb$3432dff0$9c989fd0$@gmail.com> From: "Michael Mace" Subject: Homeria bulbs Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:55:58 -0800 Mary Sue wrote: > Moraea collina, M. flaccida, M. miniata, M. ochroleuca, and M. pallida Yes, those five species are prohibited from interstate commerce in the US. So no importation into the country and no movement between states, unless you have a permit. I've probably mentioned this on the list before, but we've had a lot of newcomers so it's worth mentioning again: I did some research into the original ban on these species, and as far as I can tell it wasn't based on concerns about individual gardeners growing the plants. Someone applied for a permit to import livestock feed contaminated by seed of some Homeria species. The species listed are reportedly toxic to livestock, and they have naturalized in parts of Australia. I'd add that I've seen one of them growing in cultivated fields in South Africa, and they can be so numerous that the flowers make a pale orange haze. If you think about how animal feed can be used -- spread on the ground in large quantities in rural areas -- the idea of importing contaminated feed into the US is kind of uncomfortable. So the US turned down the permit and banned those species from importation. Having said that, those of us who grow the suspect Homerias (obtained before the import ban) have found them to be difficult to maintain in the ground. I don't think any of us have ever seen signs of invasiveness. I suspect that the differences in climate and plant predators between here and Australia keep them in check. But still, I think it's best to be careful with these, and I would not spread them around. Mike San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From annmram@gmail.com Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Ann Rametta Subject: Homeria bulbs Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:51:49 -0800 Ok, On Jan 30, 2018 8:56 AM, "Michael Mace" wrote: > Mary Sue wrote: > > > Moraea collina, M. flaccida, M. miniata, M. ochroleuca, and M. pallida > > Yes, those five species are prohibited from interstate commerce in the US. > So no importation into the country and no movement between states, unless > you have a permit. > > I've probably mentioned this on the list before, but we've had a lot of > newcomers so it's worth mentioning again: I did some research into the > original ban on these species, and as far as I can tell it wasn't based on > concerns about individual gardeners growing the plants. Someone applied for > a permit to import livestock feed contaminated by seed of some Homeria > species. > > The species listed are reportedly toxic to livestock, and they have > naturalized in parts of Australia. I'd add that I've seen one of them > growing in cultivated fields in South Africa, and they can be so numerous > that the flowers make a pale orange haze. If you think about how animal > feed > can be used -- spread on the ground in large quantities in rural areas -- > the idea of importing contaminated feed into the US is kind of > uncomfortable. So the US turned down the permit and banned those species > from importation. > > Having said that, those of us who grow the suspect Homerias (obtained > before > the import ban) have found them to be difficult to maintain in the ground. > I > don't think any of us have ever seen signs of invasiveness. I suspect that > the differences in climate and plant predators between here and Australia > keep them in check. But still, I think it's best to be careful with these, > and I would not spread them around. > > Mike > San Jose, CA > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From kathleen.sayce@gmail.com Wed, 31 Jan 2018 11:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <4E9B7E20-02AC-4ABD-B163-998C0B15E4C4@gmail.com> From: Kathleen Sayce Subject: Homeria bulbs (Michael Mace) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 10:43:50 -0800 Moraea collina is moderately invasive in my yard. It sets seed easily, and spreads both in garden beds and into the lawn, where it makes large clumps over time despite regular mowing. I pull the flowering stems whenever they appear now to keep it suppressed if not extirpated from my garden. Kathleen _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From plantboy@gmail.com Wed, 31 Jan 2018 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Cody H Subject: Homeria bulbs (Michael Mace) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 19:41:38 +0000 I’ve seen Moraea polystachya growing in a moderately weed-like manner at a nursery near Escondido, CA. I wouldn’t call it invasive there, but it looked like it had the potential to be so if given the right situation in that climate. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:44 AM Kathleen Sayce wrote: > Moraea collina is moderately invasive in my yard. It sets seed easily, and > spreads both in garden beds and into the lawn, where it makes large clumps > over time despite regular mowing. I pull the flowering stems whenever they > appear now to keep it suppressed if not extirpated from my garden. > > Kathleen > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From janemcgary@earthlink.net Wed, 31 Jan 2018 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <7ef196ac-03ee-6fc0-09f4-3d1be731c2f0@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary Subject: Leucojum and Acis Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 11:49:21 -0800 I just looked up some information on /Acis tingitana/, which is flowering in my bulb house now, and was confused by the text of the entry in the PBS wiki. The information is credited to John Grimshaw, but apparently written up by someone else. I can't tell from the way it's written whether Acis is now moved back into Leucojum, or whether both of them are to be referred to Galanthus. The problem is the phrase "that genus," whose referent is unclear. Could someone please clear this up for us? As mentioned in said text, I've found A/L tingitana/um much hardier than British references state. My plants are under winter cover but have always been exposed to ambient outdoor temperatures usually reaching minus 6 C for short periods. A/L valentina/um, a fall-flowering species also considered tender by some, got out into my present garden in error when I moved 6 years ago and is doing very well there. Both of them increase readily and I must also make more of an effort to collect the seed, which matures rapidly. They would be very welcome in mild-climate gardens. Incidentally, the PBS wiki text speculates that plants exhibited by the Archibalds and illustrated on the wiki may have been the same collection as my photographed plant. They aren't -- mine came from a seed collection with the identifier SBL, S being Michael Salmon, who sold the seed. They may have come from about the same place in North Africa, though. It's interesting that quite a few bulbs thought of as (semi-)tender in the UK and Europe do well outdoors in the Pacific Northwest USA, where winters are colder than in much of Britain and just as wet and gloomy. I don't think it's our dry summers, because I irrigate the areas where some of these bulbs grow weekly in summer. Could it be our lower latitude and correspondingly greater day length during the plants' growing season? Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From petersirises@gmail.com Wed, 31 Jan 2018 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <5a722a64.cb3a1c0a.3b3a3.5517@mx.google.com> From: Peter Taggart Subject: Leucojum and Acis Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 20:43:02 +0000 Jim Archibalds seed seems to have come from stock of a John Blanchard collection. Easily referenced thanks to the Scottish Rock Garden Club. . Peter Taggart (UK) -----Original Message----- From: "Jane McGary" Sent: ‎31/‎01/‎2018 19:45 To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Subject: [pbs] Leucojum and Acis I just looked up some information on /Acis tingitana/, which is flowering in my bulb house now, and was confused by the text of the entry in the PBS wiki. The information is credited to John Grimshaw, but apparently written up by someone else. I can't tell from the way it's written whether Acis is now moved back into Leucojum, or whether both of them are to be referred to Galanthus. The problem is the phrase "that genus," whose referent is unclear. Could someone please clear this up for us? As mentioned in said text, I've found A/L tingitana/um much hardier than British references state. My plants are under winter cover but have always been exposed to ambient outdoor temperatures usually reaching minus 6 C for short periods. A/L valentina/um, a fall-flowering species also considered tender by some, got out into my present garden in error when I moved 6 years ago and is doing very well there. Both of them increase readily and I must also make more of an effort to collect the seed, which matures rapidly. They would be very welcome in mild-climate gardens. Incidentally, the PBS wiki text speculates that plants exhibited by the Archibalds and illustrated on the wiki may have been the same collection as my photographed plant. They aren't -- mine came from a seed collection with the identifier SBL, S being Michael Salmon, who sold the seed. They may have come from about the same place in North Africa, though. It's interesting that quite a few bulbs thought of as (semi-)tender in the UK and Europe do well outdoors in the Pacific Northwest USA, where winters are colder than in much of Britain and just as wet and gloomy. I don't think it's our dry summers, because I irrigate the areas where some of these bulbs grow weekly in summer. Could it be our lower latitude and correspondingly greater day length during the plants' growing season? Jane McGary Portland, Oregon, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From xerantheum@gmail.com Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Nhu Nguyen Subject: Call for applications - 2018 MSI Grant for Bulb Studies Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 11:46:08 -1000 Dear PBS members, It's that time of the year again to put forward a call for application for the 2018 Mary Sue Ittner Grant for Bulb Studies. This grant is set up to support anyone interested in learning more about bulbs. It may be used to support any type of research, including field-work. It is available to paid PBS members world-wide, and you may apply for membership when you submit your application. The award amount is $500 USD The deadline for this year is March 14, 2018. The complete announcement, conditions, and additional information can be downloaded here: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/grant.html If you are a member of other geophytic societies/group, please pass on this announcement. We hope to have more interconnectivity between various groups through this activity. Thanks and we hope to receive a lot of applications. Sincerely, Nhu Nguyen President, PBS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From msittner@mcn.org Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <3ba601ab-9acb-c44c-ec59-451d156115d9@mcn.org> From: Mary Sue Ittner Subject: Leucojum and Acis Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 14:00:11 -0800 On 1/31/2018 11:49 AM, Jane McGary wrote: > I just looked up some information on /Acis tingitana/, which is > flowering in my bulb house now, and was confused by the text of the > entry in the PBS wiki. The information is credited to John Grimshaw, > but apparently written up by someone else. I can't tell from the way > it's written whether Acis is now moved back into Leucojum, or whether > both of them are to be referred to Galanthus. The problem is the > phrase "that genus," whose referent is unclear. Could someone please > clear this up for us? > I really confused by what Jane has written. I looked at the wiki page for this species and I can't see any reference to John Grimshaw. It is listed as Acis with a synonym reference for its former name so there shouldn't be any puzzlement about its current name. Including the synonym is designed to be helpful, not confusing. The phrase "that genus" doesn't appear on the page. I'm not sure what page she was looking at. http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Acis_tingitana > Incidentally, the PBS wiki text speculates that plants exhibited by > the Archibalds and illustrated on the wiki may have been the same > collection as my photographed plant. They aren't -- mine came from a > seed collection with the identifier SBL, S being Michael Salmon, who > sold the seed. They may have come from about the same place in North > Africa, though. Most of the wiki pages were created by a few of us volunteers with the best information we can find. If anyone feels it is wrong, please contact one of the wiki administrators or learn how to correct the wiki yourself. I'll be happy to remove the speculation about the seed source. So many of you have valuable information about your experiences growing various plants. We'd love to have this on the wiki, but would need to have more people willing to help for this to happen. Mary Sue _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs From david@davidpilling.com Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: David Pilling Subject: Leucojum and Acis Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 22:57:01 +0000 Hi, On 31/01/2018 22:00, Mary Sue Ittner wrote: > I really confused by what Jane has written. I looked at the wiki page > for this species and I can't see any reference to John Grimshaw. "The genus Acis was created in 1807 by R.A. Salisbury. Acis is a member of the Amaryllidaceae family. In the 1880s the species in this genus were lumped into the genus Leucojum. Dolores Lledo, Aaron Davis, Manuel Crespo, Mark Chase and Michael Fay from RBG Kew in a new paper to be published entitled "Phylogenetic analysis of Leucojum and Galanthus (Amaryllidaceae) based on plastid matK and nuclear ribosomal spacer (ITS) DNA sequences and morphology" have determined that Galanthus is most closely related to Leucojum and that the species formerly included in Acis should be returned to that genus. These species are the small species with narrow leaves and unmarked flowers. This information was provided by John Grimshaw." from: http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Acis -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs