Hello Lin and Pamela, Crinum Your Crinums look virused indeed and I would dig them up and destroy them, I would put them into the garbage and not on the compost. It is not loss if they did not flower anyway and there is always a risk of transmission of virus through aphids or garden tools used for the several plants . Scilla maderensis Scilla maderensis forms a kind of berry which contains one or a few seeds. If you speak about dry pods the fruit has probably ripend and dried out. The fruit itself is not the seed. You could harvest the muslin bags and empty them. If you carefully crush the dry fruit you should find a round black seed, big enough to clearly identify it as a seed. If the fruits are not dry they are ripe when they turn yellow(ish) and the seed inside is deep black. Scilla maderensis has a short dormancy period and I would not store the seed for too long. it comes from a habitat that is never fully dry and certainly does not bake in hot summer sun. An immediate sowing in slightly moist compost may be best, not too wet. The seed may then choose the right time to germiate. To be very safe, you could divide the lot and sow some now and store the other part. True Scilla maderensis is not very fertile so you may find only small numbers of seeds. I grow Scilla latifolia which some people consider only a variant of Scilla maderensis. My plants did not set any seeds this spring but in general are very fertile. I find the plants impossible to distinguish from S. maderensis. Which ever plant you grow, it is worthwile propagating and seedlings do develop quite fast. I had sown seed of this plant two or three years ago and also donated part of it to the BX. The sowing was done immediately and germination took place over an extended period of time but to near 100%. Bye for today Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…