Martagon lilies

Fri, 22 Jun 2018 11:08:30 PDT
Hi Rodger,

I guess your report shows how adaptable martagons are - two weeks ago I 
visited a colony in their natural habitat, about 10 kilometers from here 
on the Swabian alb - that means:

On the border between continental and oceanic climate with highly 
variable winters with mild wet spells (west wind) as well as freezing 
cold periods (east wind - zone 6 up there on the Alb while 7ish down 
here in the Fils valley) and hot summers - of course no extra water in 
the wild

Soil: leafy forest ground on jura limestone / karst which obviously 
means good global drainage

mostly filtered light only through deciduous forest canopy. Very few 
ventured into sunny meadows.

I couldn't find any deer-caused damage

I may upload some pictures to the wiki - i know. there are a lot 
already, but none of true wild populations from original habitat...

I have to admit I didn't think of sampling the scent - I missed to do 
that on that trip on Gymnadenia odoratissima and Orobanche carophyllacea 
as well. When I'm on the run with a camera, I tend to forget the other 


Am 21.06.2018 um 03:20 schrieb Rodger Whitlock:
> Martagon lilies are flowering right now, and doing better than in the 
> past. They are even starting to self-sow a little, so the patch is 
> bigger than when originally planted; and one stray seed germinated 
> right by my front steps and is flowering right now.
> This is not because I am some super-gardener. Nor is it because the 
> seeds I grew these from were in some way "special". The show is due 
> entirely to the conditions of growth, so let me outline those:
> 1. Climate: cool Mediterranean with wet winters and cool summers.
> 2. Extra water? None.
> 3. Soil: a clay called "floured sand." This clay, unlike the blue 
> marine clay so common here, can be worked when wet because it isn't 
> sticky.
> 4. Drainage: poor. I get standing water near the martagons during wet 
> periods.
> 5. Light: almost no direct sun but plenty of sky light.
> 6. Pests: deer, which in many seasons eat all the buds.
> The great drawback to martagons is that though they are very 
> beautiful, they smell bad and hence cannot be used as a cut flower.
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Likely zone 7a

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