Jane mentions Stan Gibson of Longview WA, a potter who makes long toms. I've also bought several of them that have held up very well, except for the rare occasion with the dogs get carried away with play. He ships his pots and is a vendor at Hortlandia, the yearly plant sale in Portland at the Expo Center. I've also found very similar, good quality terra cotta pots that were high-fired at a local garden store south of Bandon. Don't know where they're made (Italy maybe?) but the prices are reasonable and they've held up well also. No need for flats to hold them upright. I'd rather have Stan's pots but these do in a pinch. I think checking around for more specialized nurseries in your area and asking if you don't see any would help. The extra large glazed pots too often have a single hole too small to be of use unless you double pot. Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus/ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…