As far as Caltrans goes all newly planted areas start with water, though they are trying to use drip more and less overhead watering. If plants are native they may stop watering after established. It depends on each area. Ann Marie socal zone 9 On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 4:43 PM John Wickham <jwickham@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Leo, > I've seen it growing on the side of the road, with a steep hill on the > other side...fast drainage. I have it growing in clay at my home. They will > take summer water. A lot of people have trouble getting them established, > but once they are they can be assertive. Don't mess with the roots when > planting, they don't like that. Which is funny, because they are typically > grown from root cuttings. I'd try giving it some water until the monsoons > come along, but let it dry out between watering. The Ventura mountains > where I see it growing can get monsoon rains as well, though probably not > what you experience, so I don't think that would be a significant problem. > Maybe your soil drains too fast? > > John WickhamLos Angeles > > > On Saturday, September 15, 2018 4:03 PM, oooOIOooo via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > I ask Californians for some information on this huge poppy with some > trepidation. It isn't in our photographs section. It doesn't have a bulb, > just large tapering roots, like Ranunculus, which is in our Wiki. However, > it is Pacific, and it does come back in fall from a large underground water > storage system. > > I see it in California freeway landscapes, on slopes that did not exist > before road construction. (Or did it sprout naturally?) I have seen it > growing wild, in the grassland and oak zone, along Highway 74 east of San > Juan Capistrano in Orange County. (There are beautiful Dudleya pulverulenta > along this road, as well.) I have seen it in the canyons of Saddleback > Mountain in the same region. > > For decades, the Sunset Book has said this is suitable for Sunset Zone 13, > where I live in Phoenix. But, nor I nor more experienced plantspeople have > been able to get it through the first summer after fall planting. I visited > Orange County over Labor Day and couldn't resist buying another plant in a > 1 gallon / 3.79 liter can at Green Thumb Nursery off Interstate 5 at El > Toro Road in Lake Forest. The plants were the largest I've seen for sale in > 1 gallons. They look like they are grown from root cuttings: There is a > horizontal piece of root at the soil surface, from which leafy tops have > sprouted. The soil was moist at the nursery. I will wait to plant it until > nights are cooling down, and for now I am giving it only a few hours of > late afternoon sun, keeping the sun off the container. I am also watering > sparingly, just when it is near wilting. > > Our late fall, winter and early spring are probably great for this plant. > We get occasional light overnight frosts and gentle winter rain, as along > the coast. We get a lot less winter rain than coastal California has > experienced in the past, so I will probably need to provide supplemental > winter irrigation. In late spring and early summer we have the hottest > temperatures, 110+ / 44C+; it does not rain, and humidity is very low, > something like really bad Santa Ana conditions without wind. From mid July > on we have lower temperatures, usually in the mid 100s / 38-42C, and > somewhat higher humidity when it is not raining. We get sporadic > thunderstorms with dramatically lower temperatures and heavy rainfall > during this time. > > So, my questions: > Does CalTrans provide summer water for some landscapes in the Orange > County and San Diego areas, where I have seen this planted along freeways? > Is it evergreen in California with summer water? > > Is it better to give some summer water the first year? Will our normal > monsoon rain probably be enough? Or should I protect it from rain? > > Would it be better to plant it in rocky soil, or in deeper soil? In > California I have only seen it on deep soils, not rocky areas, but I > haven't hiked everywhere. A rocky area here would dry much faster after a > monsoon rain during the warm summer dormancy, but also in the cool growing > season. > > Has anybody seen it growing in anything other than full sun all day in > California? A lot of full-sun plants from elsewhere tolerate our heat > better with morning sun and afternoon shade, or dappled shade, as under a > well-trimmed mesquite. > > When I plant it, should I bury the exposed root cutting? > > If the tops don't die down next spring, should I cut them off? Or should I > let it die back normally? > > Should I cover the root zone with something to keep the sun off the soil? > > Do they always die back in summer? > > Thanks, > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…