Hi, I made a wiki page for Cyclamen tubers: https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… If anyone has photos of ones we are missing that you would be willing to have us add to the wiki, please send them to me privately and I'll add them or you could attach them to a response to the list and I could copy them from that source. I think it is very interesting how much they vary in size. Some of them you could probably grow in containers indefinitely, but others would get much too big. Also I have a question about the latest opinions about what family Cyclamen belongs in, Primulaceae or Myrsinaceae . A number of the data bases are attributing it to Primulaceae (Kew, Plants of the World Online,Tropicos, some wikipedias) but our wiki states: "Phylogenetic studies found that members of the Primulaceae and Myrsinaceae were not monophyletic and reassignments have been made. Thus, some members of the Primulaceae such as Cyclamen are now included in the Myrsinaceae." In a Google search there are some sources agreeing with this. Can anyone provide up to date information on this? In searching further I see that Trientalis (also changed to Myrsinaceae) and on the wiki is listed in Jepson as belonging to Myrsinaceae but is now named Lysimachia. Keeping up with all the name changes is really a full time job, not something that a few volunteers can do. Then there is also the challenge to pronounce some of the new plant names. Remember the discussions about how to pronounce Clivia? We are going to need pronunciation guides. I don't usually take the time to find a source online that pronounces a new name and just make a guess and I expect others may do the same. I explain if I'm asked, that I don't really know the right pronunciation. Mary Sue _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…