I received 2 Crinum giganteam seeds earlier this year and both germinated. They are looking good and I have repotted them twice. The roots are now coming out of the latest pots. They are still living in my greenhouse. It is spring here on the far south east coast of NSW, Australia, so they could go outside. My question is: If I put them outside, can they go into the ground, or should I keep them in a pot until next year? Thank you Melanie On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at 10:59 am, <pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Telling BX 463 lots apart (Jane McGary) > 2. Allium plummerae (Nicholas plummer) > 3. Members' favourite bulbs (Diane) > 4. Re: Allium plummerae (Diane) > 5. Planting depth & Watsonia indentification (Matt Knowles) > 6. Re: Planting depth & Watsonia indentification (Matt Knowles) > 7. Re: (Telling BX 463 lots apart.) Velthemia bracteata > (Makiko Goto-Widerman) > 8. BX463: Thanks to all! (George Nauyok) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:48:51 -0800 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: oooOIOooo via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Telling BX 463 lots apart > Message-ID: <acd6df96-9ad8-17ac-1ebb-ada5d44a28da@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Leo, > > I used up the glassines first and then switched to the plastic bags, > which I don't like. I think I can answer most of your questions. See below > > On 11/19/2019 6:20 PM, oooOIOooo via pbs wrote: > > I am grateful to have received seed from the recent BX 463. Thank you > volunteers. I received more than one lot of the same species of some seed, > and the only distinguishing feature is the envelope material. The labels > list only the binomial, not the lot number. Any chance somebody can > distinguish between: > > > > Calochortus catalinae in a long glassine envelope; BARTON > Calochortus catalinae in a small plastic envelope with a zip pressure > closure, and label GTH [? or maybe GTSA] 19-107; GOLDSMITH > > Calochortus obispoensis in a long glassine envelope; WESSELLS > > Calochortus obispoensis in a small plastic envelope with a zip pressure > closure; MCGARY > > > > Veltheimia bracteata in a long glassine envelope; CANNOT RECALL ANY OF > THESE, BUT ALL SHOULD BE THE TYPICAL PINKISH FORM. > > Veltheimia bracteata in a small plastic envelope with a zip pressure > closure, 6 seeds; > > Veltheimia bracteata in a small plastic envelope with a zip pressure > closure, about 25 seeds? > > > > Thank you again. We have had our first fall/winter rain begin, and I am > planting as many of the winter growers as I can tonight and tomorrow. > > > > Leo Martin > > Phoenix Arizona USA > > Zone 9? > > > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 13:29:22 -0500 > From: Nicholas plummer <nickplummer@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Allium plummerae > Message-ID: > < > CAJQ9fxUzEGhj0QOwf2MVVm82Jj+OavXxQqSOYoCNzp88KMsf-A@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > For obvious nomenclatural reasons, I'm intrigued by Allium plummerae > (though as far as I know, I'm no relation to Sara Plummer Lemmon). > However, I have never seen the species offered for sale, and I have no idea > whether it would adapt to cultivation in a hot, humid east coast > environment. > > Can anyone comment on either point? Where might I obtain seed or bulbs, > and is it possible to grow them in North Carolina? > > Nick Plummer > Durham, North Carolina, Zone 7 > https://sweetgumandpines.wordpress.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 11:47:39 -0800 > From: Diane <voltaire@islandnet.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Members' favourite bulbs > Message-ID: <7A67185A-2111-48C0-9641-72967E9EF544@islandnet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > New members are asked what their favourite bulbs are. > > I have started compiling a list to see which are the most popular this > year. This will take a while, as we have had a lot of new members. > > Some answers are very broad - like Hyacinthaceae. Others very specific - > not a whole genus, but just one species. > > Then there are unusual ones, like Resnova. I had to look that one up. > Luckily it is in our wiki - Drimiopsis and Scilla are synonyms of Resnova, > and it might end up being a Ledebouria. > > I?m curious about that one - I don?t think we?ve ever had any posts about > it. I wonder how many people are growing it. > > Well, I will carry on counting. I hope to have the list done by Christmas. > > Diane Whitehead > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 13:25:30 -0800 > From: Diane <voltaire@islandnet.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Allium plummerae > Message-ID: <BC64CA09-45CD-4D52-AC59-6288095EF32D@islandnet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Mark McDonough grows it near Boston. He wrote he has never had a > self-sown seedling. There are photos of it in his post on the Scottish > Rock Garden Club Forum: > http://srgc.net/forum/index.php/… > > Diane Whitehead > > > On Nov 20, 2019, Nicholas plummer <nickplummer@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > is it possible to grow them in North Carolina? > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 14:00:04 -0800 > From: Matt Knowles <matt@aestheticdesign.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] Planting depth & Watsonia indentification > Message-ID: <6CE6393B-95F3-46D8-B324-C2FA0CBDEC67@aestheticdesign.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > My first post to the list, so I hope this goes well and I do it right. > > I?ve been planting the bulbs I received from the recent BX, and first I > want to thank everyone who contributed, and those who dedicated their time > organizing and mailing out the contributions. It was doing an Internet > search after seeing a photo of Moraea that I first discovered PBS, so I?m > tickled to have some Moraea bulbs and seeds to try out. > > This is my first time planting non-commercial bulbs and I?m not really > sure what to do regarding planting depth. I?m guessing that tiny buls that > are only a half inch or less need to be pretty close to the surface, but > how close? Is there a general rule to go by for bulbs? I spent yesterday > reading through the wiki as I was in bed with a cold, but I couldn?t find > any information for planting depth. Might have been there, but I kept > getting distracted by the interesting articles I came across. > > I?m also hoping some of you can help identify some Watsonia that I have. > The original batch that I started with came from my grandmother?s garden. > For 15 years or so, all we had was the pink ones, and then, two summers > ago, some showed up that were white, and even one showed up that was > orange. At first glance I thought i was some Crocosmia that had escaped > it?s allowed boundary, but on closer inspection I realized it was Watsonia. > > The Watsonia blooms Juy-September, dies back in October, and new growth > has already started. They get about 4-5 feet tall and require no > maintenance in out wet climate other than cutting the dead growth every > year. I?ve been busy dividing them this fall, and would like to send some > bulbs to the list next year, but I would like to identify the species first. > > > > > Matt Knowles > Aesthetic Design & Photography > Ferndale, CA > http://www.aestheticdesign.com/ > 707-786-4643 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 14:06:19 -0800 > From: Matt Knowles <matt@aestheticdesign.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Planting depth & Watsonia indentification > Message-ID: <FA9AEB76-11E6-4B6F-9A4C-E31B561B7C54@aestheticdesign.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Must have done something wrong. I attached two jpg files but I?m not > seeing the scrubbed part of the message with the links to the images. I?m > using Apple Mail, and attached the images, they were not inline. > > > On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Matt Knowles <matt@aestheticdesign.com> > wrote: > > > My first post to the list, so I hope this goes well and I do it right. > > > > I?ve been planting the bulbs I received from the recent BX, and first I > want to thank everyone who contributed, and those who dedicated their time > organizing and mailing out the contributions. It was doing an Internet > search after seeing a photo of Moraea that I first discovered PBS, so I?m > tickled to have some Moraea bulbs and seeds to try out. > > > > This is my first time planting non-commercial bulbs and I?m not really > sure what to do regarding planting depth. I?m guessing that tiny buls that > are only a half inch or less need to be pretty close to the surface, but > how close? Is there a general rule to go by for bulbs? I spent yesterday > reading through the wiki as I was in bed with a cold, but I couldn?t find > any information for planting depth. Might have been there, but I kept > getting distracted by the interesting articles I came across. > > > > I?m also hoping some of you can help identify some Watsonia that I have. > The original batch that I started with came from my grandmother?s garden. > For 15 years or so, all we had was the pink ones, and then, two summers > ago, some showed up that were white, and even one showed up that was > orange. At first glance I thought i was some Crocosmia that had escaped > it?s allowed boundary, but on closer inspection I realized it was Watsonia. > > > > The Watsonia blooms Juy-September, dies back in October, and new growth > has already started. They get about 4-5 feet tall and require no > maintenance in out wet climate other than cutting the dead growth every > year. I?ve been busy dividing them this fall, and would like to send some > bulbs to the list next year, but I would like to identify the species first. > > > > > > > > > > Matt Knowles > > Aesthetic Design & Photography > > Ferndale, CA > > http://www.aestheticdesign.com/ > > 707-786-4643 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Matt Knowles > Aesthetic Design & Photography > http://www.aestheticdesign.com/ > 707-786-4643 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 14:14:35 -0800 > From: Makiko Goto-Widerman <mfdgardenclub@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] (Telling BX 463 lots apart.) Velthemia bracteata > Message-ID: > <CALezvAotm2o=fAOT0gq_3= > LxG3jQCiFtXAps9FpGRy5rY1oNbg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Brian, > > Yes, they are very tough and low maintenance, however, it took many many > years to see a flower. I have over 50 plants. None of them were killed so > far. Their shiny dark green color leaves are valuable even without a > flower during dark fall to winter season even in California. > > > > *Makiko Goto-Widerman* > Makiko Floral Design Garden Club 501 c 3 > 5950 Alpine Road > Portola Valley, CA 94028 > (650) 275-4334 > MFDgardenclub@gmail.com > http://www.mfdgardenclub.us/ > <MFDgardenclub@gmail.com> > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 1:50 AM Brian Whyer via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > > Just a comment on this plant. Here in the UK I find this almost > > indestructable. I have several pots from originally just 1 many year > ago. A > > pot of a large single bulb was taken indoors from a frost free greenhouse > > while in flower ~2 years ago, but eventually left on the ground outside > the > > back door and forgotten about. It suffered several frosts to kill all the > > foliage last winter and been baked dry for months but is now yet again > > showing clean bright foliage, with 4 additional side growths. Potting on > > and feeding time I think. > > > > Brian Whyer, Thames valley, UK > > On Wednesday, 20 November 2019, 05:11:59 GMT, Makiko Goto-Widerman < > > mfdgardenclub@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I also received a package. I'm so happy to have almost everything that > I > > ordered. Thank you. > > > > I wished to donate bulbs of Veltheimia bracteata, that I have been > growing > > from the seeds, imported from South Africa, but I postponed until I can > see > > a flower. This is the sixth year, but no flower so far. Zantedeschia > > odorata was also started from the seeds , imported from South Africa at > the > > same time. They showed fresh leaves from the ground this month. It is > > about 6 years now. No flower yet. > > Yesterday I saw a few flower buds of Veltheimia bracteata. Very > exciting. > > Many plants did not make it except for Veltheimia and fragrant Colla lily > > plants. Many Hippeastrum (cross of Papilio) are growing very well. > Bronze > > color Habranthus bloomed first time this summer, and I collected and > > planted seeds. I need to check the name, variety. > > > > I hope I can donate some seeds and bulbs next year. > > > > Makiko Goto-Widerman > > Portola Valley, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 23:59:09 +0000 > From: George Nauyok <gnsanfrancisco@hotmail.com> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] BX463: Thanks to all! > Message-ID: > < > BN8PR20MB2465A1CFA7DB7C537A51F977D44F0@BN8PR20MB2465.namprd20.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I want to thank the volunteers who executed the BX so flawlessly, and to > thank the donors who contributed to the (further) beautification of my > postage-stamp-sized San Francisco yard. > > George Nauyok > ________________________________ > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net < > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 4:00 AM > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 33, Issue 18 > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:< > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Surplus seed - no double dipping please (Jane McGary) > 2. Re: Surplus seed - no double dipping please (Mike Rummerfield) > 3. Apology to our overseas members (Jane McGary) > 4. Crinum flaccidum seeds (Carol Ballard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:43:32 -0800 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Surplus seed - no double dipping please > Message-ID: <c0b54f32-8a6d-3348-dc57-6b8671196bc4@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > If you've already ordered seeds from the original offering, you will > find that the items that ended up in the Surplus are coming to you in > ample quantity -- not 5 seeds per packet as has sometimes happened in > the SX. I've already processed, packed, labeled, and stamped your order. > No need to order the same thing again to make sure you have enough. > > However, Jim Barton of Modesto, CA, donated large quantities of some of > the California native species he grows, so I can send these in > quantities suitable for public gardens, or revegetation efforts. Please > inquire. > > Also, please don't copy the whole offering list into your reply, because > I have to print out your order. > > And be sure you include your postal address, because I can't shoot these > seeds through the internet! > > Best regards, > > Jane McGary > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 10:44:27 -0800 > From: Mike Rummerfield <mikerumm@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Surplus seed - no double dipping please > Message-ID: > < > CACvUPLc27XF+vWY_y4zxEq9w+CbCGW_vdguR-y-vgxaa9YZJZQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Re: "And be sure you include your postal address, because I can't shoot > these > seeds through the internet!" > > Thank you for the humor, Jane, and a big thank you to you and all the > others helping to get the SX/Bx out, and the backlog distributed. > > Regards, > Mike > > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:32 AM Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > If you've already ordered seeds from the original offering, you will > > find that the items that ended up in the Surplus are coming to you in > > ample quantity -- not 5 seeds per packet as has sometimes happened in > > the SX. I've already processed, packed, labeled, and stamped your order. > > No need to order the same thing again to make sure you have enough. > > > > However, Jim Barton of Modesto, CA, donated large quantities of some of > > the California native species he grows, so I can send these in > > quantities suitable for public gardens, or revegetation efforts. Please > > inquire. > > > > Also, please don't copy the whole offering list into your reply, because > > I have to print out your order. > > > > And be sure you include your postal address, because I can't shoot these > > seeds through the internet! > > > > Best regards, > > > > Jane McGary > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:31:00 -0800 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Apology to our overseas members > Message-ID: <05f001fd-2adb-0ab7-b5a4-6c85d5111b5d@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > In the offer of surplus seeds, I specified that it was for USA members > only. I'm sorry, but the reason is that it takes a long time to do the > documentation, because the US now requires a long customs form with lots > of useless details that don't fit in the spaces on the form! The Post > Office no longer provides an option for doing this online for first > class, and we are not going to spend $35 per envelope to send overseas > priority mail of a few seeds. Or bill you for it. I just hand-wrote all > the overseas orders from the initial offering, and I have writer's cramp > from the triplicate forms. Nobody will ever look at them, I suppose. If > you ordered only a very few seeds (like 1 or 2 packets) I will mail them > to you personally in a Christmas card. > > When the regular BX resumes with a new manager (I'm just a volunteer who > stepped in), he or she should be able to use a mailing system that > allows more efficient processing. > > Jane McGary > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:00:56 +1100 > From: "Carol Ballard" <agentletouch1@ipstarmail.com.au> > To: <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Crinum flaccidum seeds > Message-ID: <002301d59b71$b05cf730$1116e590$@ipstarmail.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi all, I live about 70 klm or 40 miles North of Nyngan, New South Wales, > Australia. I am currently watching about 20+ populations of Crinum > flaccidum > white flowered form, which is native to this area & much of NSW, Victoria & > South Australia, we are in drought atm but have had in some areas around > some rain which has triggered growth of the Crinum flaccidum bulbs. They > will flower possibly end of this month or into December/January not sure > how > long afterwards the seeds will form & take to mature. Please be aware that > we are beginning to come into the Australian summer here. > > I will be harvesting a few seeds from each population (some populations can > cover 1 acre or up to several hundred acres.) Which I will label with > letters to keep each genetic line different. These populations that I am > monitoring are about 3 - 10 klm apart from each other. > > Would any members be interested in some of the seeds, they are recaltricant > & germinate within about 2 -3 weeks of becoming ripe, sometimes in the seed > capsule itself. I have harvested a few seeds & have them growing in > polystyrene boxes, they are quite slow growing. > > If you are interested in some seeds please contact me, my email is > agentletouch1@ipstarmail.com.au. > > Thank you, Ann Ballard > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 33, Issue 18 > *********************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 33, Issue 25 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…