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Re: pbs Digest, Vol 38, Issue 8 (SARAH-LISTS) > 8. Re: Sprouting Lilium bulbs (kenneth hixson) > 9. Heat tolerant Lilies (kenneth hixson) > 10. First Rain lily of the year (Rimmer deVries) > 11. Nothoscordum montevidense (Rimmer deVries) > 12. Nothoscordum ostenii (Mary Sue Ittner) > 13. Re: red lily beetles (Peter Taggart) > 14. Re: red lily beetles (Carol Ponsolle) > 15. Re: red lily beetles (Brian Whyer) > 16. Re: red lily beetles (Ellen Hornig) > 17. Re: red lily beetles (Aad van Beek) > 18. Re: red lily beetles (Roy Herold) > 19. Re: red lily beetles (Michael Loos) > 20. First Rain lily of the year (Jose) > 21. Re: red lily beetles (Jose) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:28:10 +0000 > From: Vivien Bouffard <vbouffard55@msn.com> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] hippeastrum Minerva > Message-ID: > < > BYAPR11MB30960F4C87F13B77E51B9139BCDF0@BYAPR11MB3096.namprd11.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know the background of Hippeastrum 'Minerva' and whether it's > worthwhile saving seed from it? I got a bargain bulb after the holidays > which performed as promised, and it now has huge plump seed pods on it. > Assuming I end up with viable seed, is it worth growing/sharing, coming > from a hybrid? > > Thanks, > Vivien > Z6, Massachusetts > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:55:46 -0400 > From: Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <545d838f-fc62-2865-b42f-719eda573d52@deskhenge.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > > Jane Sargent > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 13:01:59 +0000 (UTC) > From: Brian Whyer <brian.whyer@btinternet.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <649719962.6979439.1586610119959@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > They certainly like the Fritillary imperialis in my garden, as well as > the lilies. > I have been spotting them with methylated sprits using a fine brush. > Easier than trying to get them out of the leaves. A small aerosol with an > extension tube would do, if I had one. > Brian Whyer, SE UK > On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 13:55:53 BST, Jane Sargent < > jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > > Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > > Jane Sargent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 14:46:56 +0100 > From: John Ralph Carpenter <ralph.carpenter1@googlemail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: > < > CAO4btC7PagGfK6tetYeJKR-xBFMtkGAoSR68f5nk4zv_oqwFgg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > All fritillaries > > On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, 14:02 Brian Whyer via pbs, < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > They certainly like the Fritillary imperialis in my garden, as well as > > the lilies. > > I have been spotting them with methylated sprits using a fine brush. > > Easier than trying to get them out of the leaves. A small aerosol with an > > extension tube would do, if I had one. > > Brian Whyer, SE UK > > On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 13:55:53 BST, Jane Sargent < > > jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > > > > Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > > > > Jane Sargent > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:17:32 -0400 > From: Laura Grant <lauragrant1947@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: > <CAKw2XHvat4ucU7= > 8ZXJNttN+2kBib27rCkUq+rqUg8voLAmXzg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > They like fritillarias as well. > Laura > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 8:55 AM Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > > > Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > > > > Jane Sargent > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 07:52:12 -0700 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <be964149-fb6b-7c38-67c3-06514893a7d3@mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > > Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:02:54 -0700 > From: SARAH-LISTS <sarah-lists@suiattle.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] pbs Digest, Vol 38, Issue 8 > Message-ID: <9D7AD16D-27FC-42CF-A9A5-C9AF7EF8F19C@suiattle.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I am very happy with the job my barn cat is doing on vole control. He > patrols the neighbors gardens too and we are all happy because we can grow > potatoes and carrots (and tulips) now. I am particularly happy because he > seems totally uninterested in catching birds, which was a big worry when I > got him. I think the voles are much easier to catch? > > Sarah > Western WA zone 7a > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 9, 2020, at 09:36, Tim Eck <timeck17582@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > ?Regarding vole control, I have found that since I got cats, my snake > > population has gone down and my vole population has gone up. Also, it > > would help to get rid of perennial grasses. > > > >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 10:47 AM Laura Grant <lauragrant1947@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> I garden on the north facing slope of Niagara Escarpment, on the south > side > >> of Lake Ontario. Our winters are cold and without reliable snow cover. > >> I love to grow many tender bulbs and created sandy bed, close to the > house, > >> facing south. After number of years experimenting with winter protection > >> materials I came up with what works for me and would like to share with > the > >> group. > >> I take contractor grade, plastic garbage bags, fill them with > >> "Styrofoam peanuts" that are used in packaging. I seal the top of the > bags > >> with duck tape. When the "pillow" is done, it should be minimum of 4" > thick > >> all around. These are placed on top of my tender bulbs in the winter and > >> than covered with the "frost blanket" from Lee Valley Tools so the wind > >> does not blow the "pillows" away. On any warm day during the winter, I > lift > >> the "pillows" off to check on pests and give the dormant bulbs some > fresh > >> air. > >> I had problems with voles making a cozy winter home and feasting on my > >> expensive bulbs. It remains to be a challenge so I keep feeding them > with > >> peanut butter blended with Vitamin D in hope to reduce their numbers. > Since > >> we have number of predators around I hesitate to use poisons. I would > use > >> poisons if I could be sure they will die underground out of reach of > cats, > >> owls etc. A few barn cats would help me out. > >> Any suggestions in vole exterminations would be most welcome. > >> Laura > >> from Niagara on the Lake, Ontario > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 9:20 AM James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Jonathan, > >>> > >>> I tried this for a few years getting bulbs from various sources > >>> and trying various protection. Although it grew from the bulbs OK, I > >> never > >>> had any survie even the mildest winter here. I never tried it in my > >> frostm > >>> free greenhouse, but that wasn?t the point. > >>> > >>> Sigh Jim > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Apr 9, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Jonathan Knisely <jpsknisely@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> 3. Pasithea caerulea (Rimmer deVries) > >>>> > >>> > >>> I like this--I'm a sucker for blue flowers. Presumably with its wide > >>> natural distribution within Chile, there are some selections with > greater > >>> hardiness. Does anyone have experience with this in parts of the United > >>> States with summer rains and winter temperatures down below freezing > >> ((like > >>> Connecticut)? > >>> > >>>> > >>> Jonathan Knisely > >>> New Haven, CT > >>> USDA 6a > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> pbs mailing list > >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >>> > >>> Dr. James Waddick > >>> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > >>> Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > >>> USA > >>> Phone 816-746-1949 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> pbs mailing list > >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:39:18 -0700 > From: kenneth hixson <kennethhixson@gmail.com> > To: oooOIOooo via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Sprouting Lilium bulbs > Message-ID: <133180bb-9c19-7202-5c9c-4717e2baad8b@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > ??? First, my garden is in western Oregon so my comments need to be > taken as general rather than specific. > > > > many types need a substantial period of cold temperatures to induce > rooting, which is why they are best planted in fall. > ??? With about a hundred species and innumerable hybrids, it is hard to > be specific, but try for at least six weeks, up to three months, at > forty to forty five degrees F.? A plastic bag (indispensable, > ubiquitous, and hated by environmentalists) with some barely moist > peatmoss--not enough to "sweat" if left out overnight--the bulbs > themselves are moist. > > I have tried what are sold as Oriental and Asiatic lilies, since their > ancestors seem to come from warmer climates, like southern China and Taiwan. > ??? The problem with Oriental hybrids is that they include the mountain > species L. japonicum and L. rubellum, neither of which tolerate high > temperatures well.? But they do give the lovely pink colors.? L. > speciosum is somewhat heat tolerant, but begins loosing leaves from the > ground up in high temperatures. > > > > I have planted commercial hybrids in the ground and in pots when I can > buy them locally in the fall. I have planted some arriving mail-order in > spring in pots. It appears mail-order bulbs are only avalable in spring. > ??? Lily bulbs do not mature normally until after seed has normally set > and the stems? have died down.? Then they have to be dug, graded, > separated, packed, cooled to remove residual heat from growing, and > shipped.? Lily bulbs are easily bruised, and the damage results in > fungus infection, often not visible on the exterior of the bulb.? > Gardeners don't usually want bulbs arriving in November or December, > when gardeners in the north are "dormant".? The mass market is in spring > when gardeners are eager to garden.? Getting bulbs at the proper > planting time has always been a problem, and is one reason why L. > candidum, the madonna lily, is so often not available.? North American > species lilies suffer the same problem, they need to be planted before > the mass market lilies are shipped. > > > > I have tried planting both spring- and fall-bought edible shrink-wrapped > lilies from a local Chinese market, in pots and in the ground. They are > packaged so it is often hard to see both the basal plate and the tip, > Usually the packager has made attempts to cut out both, but I have found > bulbs with substantial amounts of basal plate. > > Because these bulbs are intended as food, most "excess" material > is removed to reduce the waste for the cook. It is easier to pack, and > cheaper to ship without this unwanter material. > > ??? The problem with buying lily bulbs from non-specialists is that > they are seldom handled the way they must be.? Not bruised, kept > refrigerated, protected from moisture loss, with viable roots which can > establish and nourish the stem.? A first year lily bulb will often > flower from the nutrients stored in the bulb, just as Hyacinths, Paper > White Narcissus, or Amaryllis will flower, but to continue to flourish, > they need to establish.? It might be worthwhile to scale (propagate) the > bulbs which arrive, grow them on and see if that doesn't work better.? > The North American Lily Society website has icons for culture and > propagation, which see if interested. > > ??? One last comment: I was shocked to see you planting into fifteen > gallon pots.? Here I normally plant two or three bulbs into a two or > three gallon pot.? I prefer three gallon pots because they give more > root room.? Lily roots may extend more than six inches from the bottom > of the bulb, and if the bulb is another two or three inches high, that > may leave the top of the bulb exposed.? Tall pots are better.? The > larger pots make sense for heat protection, but perhaps a "pot within a > pot" might work better.? Potting mix should be "well drained" which > doesn't mean little water, but air available to the roots when they are > growing.? Lilies can and do survive being submerged in water when > dormant, but need air at the roots when growing.? Without it, they rot. > > ??? I probably haven't answered all the problems, but it is possible to > grow lilies in hot conditions.? If I can help further, email. > > > ??? Ken > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:39:49 -0700 > From: kenneth hixson <kennethhixson@gmail.com> > To: oooOIOooo via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Heat tolerant Lilies > Message-ID: <92514445-c552-a70d-a9a7-2fd4ab1209da@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > > ??? For those who are interested, here is what I have on heat tolerant > lilies, unfortunately without any suggestions of sources: > > Heat tolerant Lilies > > L. alexandrae-Ryukuyus and a few other islands in southern Japan. 1-3' > tall.? Flower pure white, trumpet > ??? shaped, ??? carried horizontally or slightly raised.? Wants to grow > steadily during winter. > ??? Has been hybridized with speciosum (Ruth Clas, Easter Bunny) > (Judith Freeman in early 1970's > ??? with speciosum 'Shooting Star') and many more.? Other hybrids with > rubellum, nobilissimum, and > ??? 'Little Rascal'.? Succeeding generations were very fertile. > > L. brownii, brownii australe > > L. bakerianum > > L. catesbaei--Florida swamp lily > > L. formosanum (from Formosa, now Taiwan) ? From sea level, a variety > called "Wilsonii" to seven (10') feet and flowering late, an > intermediate altitude,? medium? tall variety that flowers later, and? a > short variety from high altitudes called pricei 1-2', July, > > L. iridollae-Florida, etc USA-rare and probably not in commerce. > > L. longiflorum-Easter Lily-but, there are tall ones, short ones, > diploids, tetraploids, earlier and later > ??? ?L. longiflorum and its near hybrids are widely grown commercially > in subtropical climates-- > ??? Bermuda for instance was at one time the source of bulbs for the > american forcing market. > > > L. nepalense > > L. neilgherrense-from India, grows further south than any other lily? > > L. nobilissimum? Ryukyu islands, Japan-upright to 3-4', with up to six > pure white upright flowers on short > ??? ??? stalks, to six in number.? Seed germination is dalayed > hypogeal.? Very late flowering > ??? ??? Native to cliffs, requires extreme drainage, very susceptible > to Fusarium. > ??? ??? Has been hybridizerd with alexandrae, auratum, speciosum, Pink > Glory Str, Imperial > ??? ??? Silver strain.? Some hybrids are triploids, some diploids > ??? Taj Mahal is a hybrid of nobilissimum currently being offered by > The Lily Garden > > L. michauxii, Carolina Lily.? Native to Virginia to Florida to Alabama > and Louisiana. > > L. philippinense-from Luzon province in the Philippines.? Grows close to > the sixteenth parallel.? Flowers > ??? in July or August, to 3' tall.? Close to formosanum. > > L. primulinum > > L. sulfureum > > L. wallichianum??? (beware this name in seedlists, it often disguises L. > formosanum or something else) > > ??? In Growing Lilies, by Derek Fox , p40 the list recommended for > growing under glass: > ??? alexandrae > ??? arboricola? (this lily probably not in cultivation) > ??? bakerianum (stoloniform bulb) > ??? brownii australe > ??? catesbaei > ??? iridollae > ??? longiflorum > ??? neilgherrense (stoloniform bulb) > ??? nepalense (stoloniform bulb) > ??? nobilissimum > ??? poilanei > ??? primulinum (stoloniform bulb) > ??? sulphureum > ??? wallichianum (stoloniform bulb) > > ??? There are a number of lilies coming out of China now which may well > be tolerant of higher? temperatures. > ??? They are new and not being widely distributed yet, and which > species, and details of cultivation are limited. > > ??? nobilissimum hybrids such as Taj Mahal > > ??? L. parryii is native, among other places, on Mount Lemon in > Arizona, at high altitudes. > > ??? At one time a member of the lily society grew lilies--mostly > trumpet hybrids--in Texas. > > ??? At one time a lily society member writing from South Africa > reported that L. philipinense?had become a weed in both Africa and > Australia. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:14:12 -0500 > From: Rimmer deVries <rdevries@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] First Rain lily of the year > Message-ID: <32B45578-E139-4C78-B903-15165F7BF88C@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > No rain yet but these are sending up flowers a few days after moving fish > boxes outside. Soil mix is still dry from winter storage. > > Zephranthes morrisclintii grown from NARGS 2015 seeds donated by Lynn > Makela. > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image0.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 123101 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image1.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 157708 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > Rimmer > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 12:38:57 -0500 > From: Rimmer deVries <rdevries@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Nothoscordum montevidense > Message-ID: <C40737F1-0E14-4907-8845-FFCA24C69F2D@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Blooming now are Nothoscordum montevidense, about 4? (10cm) tall and > Nothoscordum ostenii, about 8? (20cm) tall. The Nothoscordum montevidense > reblooms in the fall. > I don't find an entry in the wiki for N ostenii. > > These seem to prefer pots plunged in the cold frame over freestanding > pots. > > > > > > Rimmer in S Central Kentucky > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 11:39:31 -0700 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] Nothoscordum ostenii > Message-ID: <b8d542f3-5c1c-f5c9-8344-02376016e9ba@mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 4/11/2020 10:38 AM, Rimmer deVries wrote: > > I don't find an entry in the wiki for N ostenii. > > > We do? have photos from John Lonsdale for this synonym of Nothoscordum > felipponei > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:17:51 +0100 > From: Peter Taggart <petersirises@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: > < > CAELwaKjsaYEZZXCqOiBrsLTWY-2WmxDDVL_ZUv+sv4X0gwkUZQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > and Erethroniums > Peter uk > > On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 15:18, Laura Grant <lauragrant1947@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > They like fritillarias as well. > > Laura > > > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 8:55 AM Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > > > > > Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > > > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > > > > > > Jane Sargent > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 16:27:02 -0400 > From: Carol Ponsolle <carol.ponsolle@icloud.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <EED841A1-2724-4352-9767-DA40D9F29861@icloud.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > The red Lilly beetles do not touch my Lycoris. > > They do massive damage to my lilies. I go out at least twice a day and > inspect my plants and grab and smoosh the buggers. I want to avoid > insecticides. > > Regards, > Carol Ponsolle > Hudson Valley, NY > zone 6a > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Brian Whyer via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ? They certainly like the Fritillary imperialis in my garden, as well as > the lilies. > > I have been spotting them with methylated sprits using a fine brush. > Easier than trying to get them out of the leaves. A small aerosol with an > extension tube would do, if I had one. > > Brian Whyer, SE UK > > On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 13:55:53 BST, Jane Sargent < > jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > > > > Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > > > > Jane Sargent > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:10:07 +0000 (UTC) > From: Brian Whyer <brian.whyer@btinternet.com> > To: Carol Ponsolle via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <946692713.7368090.1586639407684@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I try and keep away from insecticides too in general but every day it is > annoying; that is why I use alcohol. Ethanol based, or maybe isopropanol > would work to, i.e. rubbing alcohol. Not tried the latter.Brian Whyer > > On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 21:27:08 BST, Carol Ponsolle via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > The red Lilly beetles do not touch my Lycoris. > > They do massive damage to my lilies. I go out at least twice a day and > inspect my plants and grab and smoosh the buggers. I want to avoid > insecticides. > > Regards, > Carol Ponsolle > Hudson Valley, NY > zone 6a > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Brian Whyer via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ? They certainly like the Fritillary imperialis in my garden, as well as > the lilies. > > I have been spotting them with methylated sprits using a fine brush. > Easier than trying to get them out of the leaves. A small aerosol with an > extension tube would do, if I had one. > > Brian Whyer, SE UK > >? ? On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 13:55:53 BST, Jane Sargent < > jane@deskhenge.com> wrote:? > > > > Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > > > > Jane Sargent > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 17:17:16 -0400 > From: Ellen Hornig <hornig@oswego.edu> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <54518F2C-0D1D-4B8E-99A2-DCB4605E5FE5@oswego.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Rather than squish them, I drop or brush them into a cup filled with a > solution of dishwashing detergent. I use the same approach for sawfly > larvae (" little green worms") on deciduous rhododendrons. Simple and > effective. > > Ellen Hornig > Massachusetts, USA > > Sent from Ellen's iPhone > > > On Apr 11, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Brian Whyer via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ? I try and keep away from insecticides too in general but every day it > is annoying; that is why I use alcohol. Ethanol based, or maybe isopropanol > would work to, i.e. rubbing alcohol. Not tried the latter.Brian Whyer > > > > On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 21:27:08 BST, Carol Ponsolle via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > The red Lilly beetles do not touch my Lycoris. > > > > They do massive damage to my lilies. I go out at least twice a day and > inspect my plants and grab and smoosh the buggers. I want to avoid > insecticides. > > > > Regards, > > Carol Ponsolle > > Hudson Valley, NY > > zone 6a > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Brian Whyer via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> > >> ? They certainly like the Fritillary imperialis in my garden, as well > as the lilies. > >> I have been spotting them with methylated sprits using a fine brush. > Easier than trying to get them out of the leaves. A small aerosol with an > extension tube would do, if I had one. > >> Brian Whyer, SE UK > >> On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 13:55:53 BST, Jane Sargent < > jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > >> > >> Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > >> they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > >> > >> Jane Sargent > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 22:05:28 +0000 > From: Aad van Beek <avbeek1@hotmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: > < > VI1PR0402MB34384DFE5DC7405F32FDA51AE0DF0@VI1PR0402MB3438.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Should I be worried about the yellow lily beetle with Easter or just > blame the bunny for sloppy work. ? > > Aad > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:26:51 -0400 > From: Roy Herold <rrherold@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <70d024bf-401d-27c0-78fc-44334416ff47@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Very few lily beetles here last year, less than ten. We think this is > attributable to the parasitic wasps that have been released in this area > by researchers at the University of Rhode Island. > > One more plant for the menu: the beetles also snack on some > polygonatums, especially the ones with skinny leaves, but they do not > lay eggs on them. The nasty larvae only show up on the lilies and frits. > > --Roy > NW of Boston > Last frost of the year tonight? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 19 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:49:07 -0400 > From: Michael Loos <loos14847@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <6C59B144-0B96-4660-B4F7-6C7E66738102@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > They?ve also been feeding on Polygonatum in past years. They don?t > complete the life cycle, but can do considerable damage. > > Michael Interlaken, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 11, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> wrote: > > > > ? > >> Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 20 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 20:57:31 -0400 > From: "Jose" <arlen.jose@verizon.net> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] First Rain lily of the year > Message-ID: <024701d61065$598ca860$0ca5f920$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Rimmer, > > There has been a bit of a discussion on Garden Web > > https://houzz.com/discussions/5893588/… > regarding intergeneric hybrids with zehyranthes and I was wondering if you > have attempted any hippeastrum/sprekelia/zepheranthes hybridization of your > own in the past. The offspring are incredibly beautiful (xHowardara) and > are > rather expensive due to their rarity. Check it out. > > Regards, > Fred > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of > Rimmer deVries > Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 1:14 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] First Rain lily of the year > > No rain yet but these are sending up flowers a few days after moving fish > boxes outside. Soil mix is still dry from winter storage. > > Zephranthes morrisclintii grown from NARGS 2015 seeds donated by Lynn > Makela. > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image0.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 123101 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… > 7bcb/attachment.jpeg > <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image1.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 157708 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… > 7bcb/attachment-0001.jpeg > <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > Rimmer > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > Scanned by McAfee and confirmed virus-free. > Find out more here: https://bit.ly/2zCJMrO/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 21:01:27 -0400 > From: "Jose" <arlen.jose@verizon.net> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > Message-ID: <024801d61065$e5d32650$b17972f0$@verizon.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I know it's rather gross but I just squish them. I gives me a sadistic > pleasure knowing they're not around anymore to hurt my beautiful plants. I > have lost so may beautiful lilies to these little red devils. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of > Ellen Hornig > Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 5:17 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] red lily beetles > > Rather than squish them, I drop or brush them into a cup filled with a > solution of dishwashing detergent. I use the same approach for sawfly > larvae (" little green worms") on deciduous rhododendrons. Simple and > effective. > > Ellen Hornig > Massachusetts, USA > > Sent from Ellen's iPhone > > > On Apr 11, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Brian Whyer via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ? I try and keep away from insecticides too in general but every day > > it is annoying; that is why I use alcohol. Ethanol based, or maybe > > isopropanol would work to, i.e. rubbing alcohol. Not tried the > > latter.Brian Whyer > > > > On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 21:27:08 BST, Carol Ponsolle via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > The red Lilly beetles do not touch my Lycoris. > > > > They do massive damage to my lilies. I go out at least twice a day and > inspect my plants and grab and smoosh the buggers. I want to avoid > insecticides. > > > > Regards, > > Carol Ponsolle > > Hudson Valley, NY > > zone 6a > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Brian Whyer via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> > >> ? They certainly like the Fritillary imperialis in my garden, as well > as the lilies. > >> I have been spotting them with methylated sprits using a fine brush. > Easier than trying to get them out of the leaves. A small aerosol with an > extension tube would do, if I had one. > >> Brian Whyer, SE UK > >> On Saturday, 11 April 2020, 13:55:53 BST, Jane Sargent < > jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > >> > >> Do the gorgeous and deadly red lily beetles bother only Lilium, or do > >> they mess with other bulb plants as well? Such as Lycoris? > >> > >> Jane Sargent > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > Scanned by McAfee and confirmed virus-free. > Find out more here: https://bit.ly/2zCJMrO/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 38, Issue 13 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…
