I think several of us reached out to the IBS at various times. In 2013, soon after the IBS and its website shut down, I talked with Herb Kelly, the guy who had been in charge of it. He had saved a backup of the website (which had a lot of articles) and was very confident that they were going to restart the org and post everything themselves. Google Books has scanned some old issues of Herbertia, back to 1984. But it doesn't have permission from the IBS to expose the full text; all you can get is little snippets. Does anyone know Herb? I'll try pinging him again, but it might work best if someone has a personal relationship with him. By the way, I think we're in a similar situation right now with the Indigenous Bulb Association of South Africa. They had a great journal for many years, and I do not think Google has scanned it. I pinged them a couple of times about digitizing their journal. They seemed interested at first, and then stopped responding. It would be worth trying with them again, if someone has a strong contact there. You can lead a horse to water... Mike San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…