Gastil I had them for 3-4 years here in New Jersey. I suspect our wet summers were their undoing. I do have the Tulipa ferganica which has persisted for 10-15 years. It sits in full sun and exposure to summer and winter wet. ArnoldNew Jersey _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>