Crocus questions, recalcitrant seed

Mary Sue Ittner via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:24:12 PDT
At the moment I am enjoying the fall flowering Oxalis, Nerines, 
Cyclamen, and Crocus. The first photo is of a Crocus from NARGS seed 
that was named Crocus fleischeri. That is a spring flowering Crocus so I 
don't think it is it. It looks a lot like Crocus niveus which is in 
flower at the moment. Can some of you who grow Crocus confirm this?

I am also wondering what the current thinking is about Crocus atticus. 
In Ruksans' book on Crocus he includes a number of subspecies that don't 
seem to be accepted by Plants of the World Online:
Crocus atticus ssp. atticus, Crocus atticus ssp. nivalis,  Crocus 
atticus ssp. sublimis.

Plants of the World Online accepts Crocus atticus, but only for Crocus 
sieberi subsp. atticus (Boiss. & Orph.) B.Mathew

It lists Crocus sieberi subsp. nivalis (Bory & Chaub.) B.Mathew as a 
synonym of Crocus nivalis Bory & Chaub. and Crocus sieberi subsp. 
sublimis (Herb.) B.Mathew as a synonym of Crocus nivalis Bory & Chaub.

If you look at various Crocus sources including the Alpine Garden 
Society and Wikipedia, they are mostly keeping Crocus sieberi with all 
the subspecies (ssp. atticus, ssp. nivalis, ssp. sublimis, ssp. sieberi).

So flowering today is either Crocus atticus ssp. sublimis, Crocus 
sieberi ssp. sublimis, or Crocus nivalis (the second photo). Can anyone 
help me figure out how to explain this on the wiki?

On another note, I'm attaching a photo I took today of a pollinator on a 
Nerine. Is there any plan for sharing short lived seed? If there isn't 
going to be a BX until next spring, the fall flowering Amaryllids that 
have recalcitrant seed won't last until then. Would it be possible for 
someone to volunteer to be a distributor for short lived seed? I'm not 
volunteering, but I have a number of Nerine species that are now in seed 
and I'd be willing to share it if we had someone who wanted to take this on.

Mary Sue

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