Re glads hybrids Hi Mike Did you flower these excellent glads hybrids in two years from seed? Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Sep 2020, at 13:00, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pacific Coast thoughts (Roy Herold) > 2. Re: Pacific Coast thoughts (Robert Parks) > 3. Re: Pacific Coast thoughts (Robert Lauf) > 4. Re: Amaryllis belladonna - hybrids versus true species > (michaelcmace@gmail.com) > 5. SoCal Hazy Day (Mike) > 6. Re: Pacific Coast thoughts (,) > 7. Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids report, 2020 (michaelcmace@gmail.com) > 8. Re: Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids report, 2020 (Robert Lauf) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 20:59:15 -0400 > From: Roy Herold <rrherold@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Coast thoughts > Message-ID: <ca20237c-50fb-7582-2968-d909815a41b0@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > I know this may not be comforting, but the best bloom I've ever seen in > South Africa has been in recently burned areas. > > In? early 2002 there was a major fire in the Silvermine Reserve near > Cape Town. We were able to visit that October, and? the display of > flowers was amazing. > > In 2008 there was a similar fire at the Fernkloof Reserve in Hermanus, > not too far from Cape Town. Again, wow. Not just bulbs, but protea > seedlings carpeted the hillside. > > In 2011 there were a number of large fires near Worcester, the site of > the Indigenous Bulb Association of South Africa (IBSA) conference. > Rachel and Rod Saunders, bless them, went out of their way to find > recently burnt areas for our tours. The blackened earth lined with > beautiful bulbs in bloom was resurrection at its best. > > Also in 2011, we went to KwaZulu-Natal. On a leisurely drive through the > Midlands we encountered burns, possibly intentional, along a railroad > line. Cyrtanthus tuckii! Scadoxus! Boophone! Scilla! Ledebouria! (pics > are from this site) > > I'm thinking of our friends on the West Coast, and hoping for the best. > > --Roy > NW of Boston > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3814A.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2225434 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3803A.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2412565 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3784A.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2292324 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3778A.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1634456 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 07:39:15 -0700 > From: Robert Parks <trolleypup@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Coast thoughts > Message-ID: > <CAGp9_pmCinTZ9ixVLkk_cRj_Se-PV+fHHZvyJQePK_Bi6OJ1Fg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > It is certainly true that both geophytes and fire following annuals > typically produce an impressive show after a fire, although if the fire > intensity is high enough both can be cooked. There used to be a Lilium > washingtonianum that would greet hikers at the top of a steep hill on the > Clark Fork Trail, growing up through a clump of scrubby oak, that burned > two years ago, with the area reduced to barren mineral soil and scarred > rocks, the lily didn't survive. On the flip side, the best flowering stands > of Calochortus macrocarpus were in areas that burned in the last year or > so, but that was a light ground fire...just a couple examples from this > summer. > > It is a small bright spot to look forward to during the conflagations. > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:52 AM Roy Herold via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> I know this may not be comforting, but the best bloom I've ever seen in >> South Africa has been in recently burned areas. >> >> In early 2002 there was a major fire in the Silvermine Reserve near >> Cape Town. We were able to visit that October, and the display of >> flowers was amazing. >> >> In 2008 there was a similar fire at the Fernkloof Reserve in Hermanus, >> not too far from Cape Town. Again, wow. Not just bulbs, but protea >> seedlings carpeted the hillside. >> >> In 2011 there were a number of large fires near Worcester, the site of >> the Indigenous Bulb Association of South Africa (IBSA) conference. >> Rachel and Rod Saunders, bless them, went out of their way to find >> recently burnt areas for our tours. The blackened earth lined with >> beautiful bulbs in bloom was resurrection at its best. >> >> Also in 2011, we went to KwaZulu-Natal. On a leisurely drive through the >> Midlands we encountered burns, possibly intentional, along a railroad >> line. Cyrtanthus tuckii! Scadoxus! Boophone! Scilla! Ledebouria! (pics >> are from this site) >> >> I'm thinking of our friends on the West Coast, and hoping for the best. >> >> --Roy >> NW of Boston >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3814A.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 2225434 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3803A.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 2412565 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3784A.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 2292324 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3778A.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 1634456 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:27:01 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Robert Parks via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Coast thoughts > Message-ID: <217726943.1187351.1599838021240@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Cool pictures!? Yes, Nature has been coping with fire much longer that it has been coping with Man, and seems to be up to the challenge of both.? A few years ago, I got a big propane torch and burned over the soil in two of my vegetable beds to eliminate fire grass and various other non-veggies.? Within two weeks, I had a luxuriant growth of some damn weed I've never seen before, and I've been fighting it ever since.? At least it isn't kudzu. > Bob? ?In Zone 7 where the only natural hazard is deer.? Presently digging TB iris and will have 400-500 fans cleaned and prepped when the dust settles next week. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:12:30 -0700 > From: <michaelcmace@gmail.com> > To: <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Amaryllis belladonna - hybrids versus true species > Message-ID: <028801d68891$068da570$13a8f050$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>> Sadly Jim Lykos passed away more than a year ago. I understand most of his > bulbs now have new owners. > > Sigh. > > Thanks for letting me know, and I'm glad his bulbs were saved. Also very > grateful that he shared so much information on this list. As the years go > by, the value of our old mail list archive is growing tremendously. Think > about it -- you're all contributing to what is, by now, one of the largest > written resources on bulb growing anywhere, including a lot of very learned > voices who are no longer with us. > > Mike > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:39:01 -0700 > From: Mike <mike.lowitz@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] SoCal Hazy Day > Message-ID: > <CABtzRWknkwAyA-bA0n8_spUgohC7MtCn_yU0biNkfYO0XmC1Ug@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Drove up to Malibu today, north of LA from San Diego. While we are not as > smoky as up north. The fires down south have caste a hazy/foggy look all > day. Pic is just on the north side of Malibu looking north towards Point > Dume. Around 4:00pm 9-11-2020. > Have a safe weekend everyone. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 03:35:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: "," <theladygardens@aol.com> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Coast thoughts > Message-ID: <194252264.1427934.1599881708837@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I sit here secluded from the smoke outside.? I have enjoyed your photos very? much.? Thanks for sharing them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy Herold via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Roy Herold <rrherold@gmail.com> > Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2020 5:59 pm > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Coast thoughts > > I know this may not be comforting, but the best bloom I've ever seen in > South Africa has been in recently burned areas. > > In? early 2002 there was a major fire in the Silvermine Reserve near > Cape Town. We were able to visit that October, and? the display of > flowers was amazing. > > In 2008 there was a similar fire at the Fernkloof Reserve in Hermanus, > not too far from Cape Town. Again, wow. Not just bulbs, but protea > seedlings carpeted the hillside. > > In 2011 there were a number of large fires near Worcester, the site of > the Indigenous Bulb Association of South Africa (IBSA) conference. > Rachel and Rod Saunders, bless them, went out of their way to find > recently burnt areas for our tours. The blackened earth lined with > beautiful bulbs in bloom was resurrection at its best. > > Also in 2011, we went to KwaZulu-Natal. On a leisurely drive through the > Midlands we encountered burns, possibly intentional, along a railroad > line. Cyrtanthus tuckii! Scadoxus! Boophone! Scilla! Ledebouria! (pics > are from this site) > > I'm thinking of our friends on the West Coast, and hoping for the best. > > --Roy > NW of Boston > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3814A.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2225434 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3803A.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2412565 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3784A.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2292324 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2011-09-18_IMG_3778A.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1634456 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 23:21:02 -0700 > From: <michaelcmace@gmail.com> > To: <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids report, 2020 > Message-ID: <041601d688cc$e5700cc0$b0502640$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, gang. > > > > If you're a species purist, cover your eyes and move on to the next message > fast, because I'm going to talk hybrids. > > > > As you know if you've been on the list for a while, in addition to growing > species bulbs I also dabble in hybridization, mostly with Moraea, Gladiolus, > and Calochortus. I've had the most luck with Moraea, where I found that all > of the "Peacock" species I've tested, plus some relatives, are capable of > crossing. I've been playing with them off and on for about 20 years, and > every year I get some cool new flowers, lately many of them speckled and > striped. In the last few years I've also been getting some nice results with > the winter-blooming Glads, with some flowers that remind me a bit of > Alstroemerias or Azaleas. > > > > I make several hundred crosses a year, and build a new raised bed every year > to hold them. Luckily I have a large backyard! > > > > I've attached photos of two of my favorites from this year. MM 15-36b is one > of the Azalea-like Glads. Its lower tepals start out yellow, and age to a > beautiful burnt scarlet color. In the enclosed photo you can see both young > and old flowers. > > > > MM 15-122e is one of the spotted Moraeas. It's a cross between M. > atropunctata and M. longiaristata, and doesn't look much like either > species. Instead it's covered with purple spots, and has a pale orange > center. If you like spotted flowers, this will make you happy. > > > > There are a lot more new Moraea and Glad photos on my blog. You can see the > best of the new Moraeas at the address below. You'll see many other spotted > flowers, some with dagger-like streaks on them, strange smoky-looking > hybrids with Moraea lurida, and unusual color blends derived from M. > loubseri, villosa, and other species. Here's the post: > > https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/08/… > > > > And the best of the new Glads are here: > > https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/08/… > ml > > > > As usual, I welcome feedback and suggestions on things I should try, > especially from anyone who has some expertise in hybridization. I'm just an > untrained amateur, and appreciate all the help I can get. > > > > I'm glad to share seeds of these plants, for free. Drop me a private email > at the address above if you're interested. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > San Jose, CA > > Zone 9. Min temp 20f (-6c) > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Gladiolus 15-36b 3.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1440086 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Moraea 15-122e.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 812279 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 06:39:44 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Michael Mace via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Moraea and Gladiolus hybrids report, 2020 > Message-ID: <1749077065.1449097.1599892784300@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Mike, > Very impressive work!? It looks to me like your hybridizing approach is a case study in how to do it right:? stake out an interesting alliance of plants to work in, make lots of crosses, grow lots of seedlings, and pick the winners.? And you definitely have some winners. > Keep up the good work. > Bob > On Saturday, September 12, 2020, 02:21:28 AM EDT, Michael Mace via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Hi, gang. > > > > If you're a species purist, cover your eyes and move on to the next message > fast, because I'm going to talk hybrids. > > > > As you know if you've been on the list for a while, in addition to growing > species bulbs I also dabble in hybridization, mostly with Moraea, Gladiolus, > and Calochortus. I've had the most luck with Moraea, where I found that all > of the "Peacock" species I've tested, plus some relatives, are capable of > crossing. I've been playing with them off and on for about 20 years, and > every year I get some cool new flowers, lately many of them speckled and > striped. In the last few years I've also been getting some nice results with > the winter-blooming Glads, with some flowers that remind me a bit of > Alstroemerias or Azaleas. > > > > I make several hundred crosses a year, and build a new raised bed every year > to hold them. Luckily I have a large backyard! > > > > I've attached photos of two of my favorites from this year. MM 15-36b is one > of the Azalea-like Glads. Its lower tepals start out yellow, and age to a > beautiful burnt scarlet color. In the enclosed photo you can see both young > and old flowers. > > > > MM 15-122e is one of the spotted Moraeas. It's a cross between M. > atropunctata and M. longiaristata, and doesn't look much like either > species. Instead it's covered with purple spots, and has a pale orange > center. If you like spotted flowers, this will make you happy. > > > > There are a lot more new Moraea and Glad photos on my blog. You can see the > best of the new Moraeas at the address below. You'll see many other spotted > flowers, some with dagger-like streaks on them, strange smoky-looking > hybrids with Moraea lurida, and unusual color blends derived from M. > loubseri, villosa, and other species. Here's the post: > > https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/08/… > > > > And the best of the new Glads are here: > > https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/08/… > ml > > > > As usual, I welcome feedback and suggestions on things I should try, > especially from anyone who has some expertise in hybridization. I'm just an > untrained amateur, and appreciate all the help I can get. > > > > I'm glad to share seeds of these plants, for free. Drop me a private email > at the address above if you're interested. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > San Jose, CA > > Zone 9. 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