Hippeastrum cultural requirements

Marc Rosenblum via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:04:18 PST
On 11/16/2021 10:04 AM, Vlad Hempel via pbs wrote:
> Hello Gordon,
>
> I am so happy to read this email from you, as it means I am not completly
> crazy, to do such experiments mysef with Hippeastrum.
>
> I have a very similar experience, however I will say this: most hybrids
> will substain temps hovering over the freezing point, some will survive
> temps even down to -12 C. Of course, in certain conditions.
>
> In this case, I find the most important is the humidity, especially in
> soil. If one experiments with Hippeadtrum in zone 9a and bellow, best is in
> completly dry soil! This either means in a an unheated greenhouse or to a
> house wall, where it does not rain at all! Snow in this case would be
> beneficial, but with the climate change we all experience recently, the
> permanent snow cover has become a long distant dream.
>
> So I suggest got for it, try various things, learn. And most
> important,fFollow your intuition!
>
> Most hardy for me have proven to be H. papilio, H. aulicum, xAcramanii,
> Exotic Star, most Rascals, La Paz, Evergreen and you will laugh, Chico too.
> All survived short temps down to -12 C, here in Berlin. And not just one
> winter. Yes, they were completly dry and not exposed to winds or any rain.
> Most bloomed in 2nd half of May, when it warms up here.
>
> Good luck,
> Vlad
>
>
>
> On Tue 16. Nov 2021 at 18:48 Gordon Hogenson via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
>> I grow Lilium species and have no difficulty finding cultural requirements
>> for almost all species that I have come across. Not so with Hippeastrum,
>> although some great resources exist, such as the Bulb Maven blog and the
>> PBS Wiki.
>>
>> Well, the Hippeastrum in Bolivia book is inspiring and has prompted me to
>> add some new species to my collection. My Hippeastrum growing is mostly
>> limited to indoor spaces, but I do have some limited greenhouse-like spaces
>> that is usually not heated. I'm in zone 7b in Washington State.
>>
>> I've always been interested in pushing the limits of hardiness, but with
>> rare and expensive bulbs, I hesitate to do any experiment that would risk
>> the loss of the bulb.  However, information available says that, for
>> example, H. papilio is hardy down to -7C (from a scientific study).
>>
>> The Hippeastrum in Bolivia book includes a table that indicates which
>> species are present at the highest altitudes, which would be an indication
>> of their hardiness. H. cybister is said to grow at over 3000 m and the list
>> of Bolivian species growing at over 2000 m contains 18 species. One can
>> look up the climate in La Paz, Bolivia and find that average lows are just
>> below freezing, so clearly H. cybister from these areas must be quite
>> hardy.
>>
>> It is clear that the genes exist for hardiness in Hippeastrum. Hippeastrum
>> hardiness was discussed previously on the list, and many people had success
>> growing hybrids outdoors in marginal zones, as long as the bulbs were
>> planted near heated buildings. Others tried deep burial and deep mulches to
>> protect bulbs in winter.
>>
>> I have tried the so-called "hardy amaryllis" that are sometimes available,
>> hybrids such as the Rascal series of Sonatini types sold by Breck's and
>> others. Names include Red Rascal, Pink Rascal, Balentino, etc.  Also,
>> Hippeastrum x johnsonii (St. Joseph's lily) is fairly hardy outdoors in the
>> South and has persisted for many decades as a heirloom pass-along plant in
>> zone 8 and maybe into zone 7?  I found that most of these bulbs did
>> overwinter outdoors for me in my climate. However, performance in the cold
>> temperature was not great. Emergence in spring was very late and slow in
>> the cold soils. Foliage also suffered in the cold spring rains. The
>> emerging foliage also suffered from the depredations of slugs and snails.
>>
>> But even so, I did get blooms and was able to collect seeds outdoors from a
>> cross involving red hardy amaryllis and Hippeastrum x johnsonii and have
>> raised those seeds almost to blooming size, although because of the
>> difficulties the plants faced outdoors, I am only growing them in the house
>> now.
>>
>> However, I think that some of the "hardy amaryllis" Sonatini types are not
>> thriving indoors, and actually need more of a cold period to do well.
>> Hippeastrum x johnsonii has bloomed indoors for me, but not consistently. I
>> suspect it needs the cold period to flower best. My next step is to move
>> the "hardy amaryllis" to a mostly unheated greenhouse and see what
>> happens.  I suspect that this would also be a good environment for H.
>> cybister and other higher-altitude species. The space is not completely
>> unheated. I have a thermostatically controlled heat source, an electric
>> heater plugged into a "thermo outlet" of the type available in hardware
>> stores and designed for heaters to prevent pipes freezing. It comes on only
>> around freezing temperatures. I use this space to overwinter Liliums as
>> well whose hardiness is in question.  The advantage of this space for
>> Hippeastrums like cybister is that they could be kept dry, consistent with
>> the dry winter of their Andean home.
>>
>> I eventually hope to set up a passive solar greenhouse, another mostly
>> unheated structure with lots of thermal mass and insulation. Maybe an ideal
>> environment for further experiments with pushing the limits of Hippeastrum
>> hardiness. With patience and persistence, it should be possible to breed
>> hybrid strains adapted to such conditions.
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Hello Gordon and Vlad

Here in Falls city, OR [Zone 8b] we get abundant rain and some 
occasional snow.

I grow 2 of the species you mentioned with  a piece of clear plastic 
oriented East to west at a 30degree angle with the high side facing East 
and open on all sides. My soil is sandy mountain loam with a lot of 
organic material and some gravel; so I have excellent drainage without 
losing fertility. I have not seen temperatures below 15F in the 18 years 
I have been here.

Happy growing,

Marc


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