From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 02 Dec 2022 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs Subject: Scilla peruviana Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2022 19:00:26 +0000  Hello Brian, Scilla peruviana is a Portuguese native bulb and I have seen it in different places. The species is very variable and can be compact, almost dwarf and ground hugging or tall and upright and everything in between. Flower color can vary as well as the width of the individual leaf. A common feature of the native habitat is that it always grows in fertile soil, mostly terra rossa which is on the slightly alkaline side. It can be found from full sun in exposed places to full shade. The soil is mostly moist to wet during the growing season but will dry out in summer, even bake bone hard in many places. The bulbs sit shallowly�, sometimes slightly exposed. In the wild there can be old clumps with many flowering bulbs but most of the time they are single flowering bulbs. The reason your bulbs divide but do not flower may have to do with frost damage to the foliage in winter and a too wet and cool (for their taste) summer. This is a greedy bulb and for producing such a large and long lasting inflorescence it needs to be well fed and must be able to photosynthesize a lot. Which it cannot do with frost damage. I think a particularly warm and sheltered spot in full sun and lots of low nitrogen fertilizer should help. My purchased bulbs from Bulb d'Argence do divide slowly and do flower every year. After flowering they produce a massive bunch of foliage. Most do not get any summer water but some do which does not make a difference in my garden. They all go dormant once hot weather sets in. They are not fussy about the soil pH, my garden soil is very fertile on the slightly acidic side. Scilla peruviana is even able to produce bulbils along the roots which I sometimes use for propagation with selected forms but in general I prefer seed. Hope that helps, Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 04 Dec 2022 19:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Seed Exchange 12 completed Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 19:09:06 -0800 Ok all you arisaemaniacs I finished processing your orders today. I received the late ripening seed from Charles Hunter on Friday. The envelopes will go out in the mail tomorrow. So have fun with your seed but don’t anyone send me any more seed until I reopen. This won’t be until next year. Nobody should have ripe seed this early anyway. Jan _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 04 Dec 2022 19:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <688ADC79-1E31-4856-954E-71278C99C62A@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Seed exchange closed! Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 19:14:09 -0800 The seed exchange is closed until I reopen it some time early next year. I need a break. This means I’m not accepting any seed until further notice and will like bin any seed sent to me. I’m serious, I mean it. Don’t send me any seed until I reopen the exchange. Jan _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 04 Dec 2022 22:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Robert Parks via pbs Subject: Seed Exchange 12 completed Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 21:19:33 -0800 Thank you for all the work. " Nobody should have ripe seed this early anyway." I think those of us with ripe seed are still working with "late", but early will be here soon enough! ;) Robert in cool damp SF, with a fair amount of blooming going on. On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 7:09 PM Jan Jeddeloh via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Ok all you arisaemaniacs I finished processing your orders today. I > received the late ripening seed from Charles Hunter on Friday. The > envelopes will go out in the mail tomorrow. > > So have fun with your seed but don’t anyone send me any more seed until I > reopen. This won’t be until next year. Nobody should have ripe seed this > early anyway. > > Jan > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 07 Dec 2022 23:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Robert Parks via pbs Subject: More Amaryllid seed (and some others) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 22:21:55 -0800 Hello again- We have some seed shares that may be of interest to you. Thanks again to all who harvested the seed and brought it to the post office! Please email me privately at trolleypup@gmail.com by Sunday night/Monday morning, I will portion seed, invoice and probably ship Monday/Tuesday. $2 per packet, $4.50 shipping (Canada will calculate once packaged) Remember that winter conditions may affect live seed shipping. Shipping is at your risk. *Mary Sue Ittner:* Scadoxus membranaceus (few) Nerine sarniensis (winter rainfall) Nerine masoniorum (evergreen) Nerine humilis (winter rainfall) Nerine 'Wombe' X 'Carmenita' - from the Zinkowski rescue, not N. sarniensis, but unlike my pots of those, flowers reliably Nerine augustifolia (summer rainfall) *Robert Parks* Nerine filifolia (OP, but no other Nerine set seed) Best regards, Robert _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 09 Dec 2022 17:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <83b73d9d-9aae-f642-6a38-d602a61f1774@t-online.de> From: Uli via pbs Subject: joint seed order from Silverhill Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2022 00:41:10 +0000 Dear Members living in the EU, As an extra and exclusive service we are planning a joint seed order with Silverhill seed in Cape Town (silverhillseeds.co.za) at the beginning of the New Year. This is a service to fully paid members of the Pacific Bulb Society living in the EU. It was Martin's idea and he agreed to do the logistics like he does for the Bulb and Seed exchange. The new  Silverhill website lists a lot of mouth watering seeds and they offer a phytosanitary certificate at an affordable price. Please read the instructions carefully and completely. Only fully paid members have access to this service You must have a postal address in the EU, for legal reasons we cannot ship seed to addresses outside the EU. Please compile a list of your seed order, INCLUDING THE PRICE OF EACH PACKET and add up the total cost of the seed you want, ALL IN US DOLLARS. You do NOT need to bother about the shipping cost at this stage, neither the cost for the phytosanitary certificate. And please, do not forget to include the delivery address. Please send this list by email to Martin or as a Private Message through the Forum. We will set a deadline to be announced. We plan to place the order with Silverhill in early January, Silverhill currently has a Christmas break for international orders. Martin will collect the individual orders and will order the cumulated seed from Silverhill and pay for it. Silverhill will charge for postage to Europe and a phytosanitary certificate. Once the seed has arrived, Martin will re-distribute the seed to the respective members. At this stage the price for the seed ordered, a share of the shipping cost from South Africa, a share of the cost of the phytosanitary certificate and the postage within the EU will be added up. You will receive a pay slip/invoice similar to the bulb exchanges together with the seed you ordered. In case of seed portions being out of stock they will not be billed. This is a very streamlined and comfortable service for you, look at it as a Christmas gift. Please make sure that you do not cause unnecessary extra work for Martin by following these instructions. Martin will advance the money for the entire order, so please do not be late in refunding him once you have your seeds in hand, but please wait with your payment until you receive the invoice. Please bear in mind that seed of South African origin will undergo a hemisphere swap. Which means, that seed for autumn sowing needs to be properly stored until OUR Northern Hemisphere Autumn. For spring sowing the seed should arrive on time. The online seed shop of Silverhill is very big, so take your time over the holidays to browse, dream and.... order. Please do not hesitate to contact Uli (johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de) in case of questions Merry Christmas! Uli and Martin _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Robert Parks via pbs Subject: Offering Zantedeschia hybrids, summer calla lilies to good homes Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 21:14:26 -0800 My conditions don't satisfy the needs of summer growing Zantedeschias, so I lifted them all, about 14 varieties. Numbers range from a few to many, with a broad range of colors. Offer details: I will send them for free to USA locations that aren't frozen (your judgement, the tubers won't tolerate frost). Email me offlist ( trolleypup@gmail.com), we can discuss via email details of what you want/varieties offered. Robert in cool wet San Francisco, with a smattering of pretty flowers (mostly Oxalis at the moment) _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 12 Dec 2022 07:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: The Silent Seed via pbs Subject: Worsleya seeds ? Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 09:37:27 -0500 Hi folks, I hope you're all doing great. This may be a long shot on here; but I am looking for Worsleya seeds. (To purchase, of course.) I would like about 10 of them. Does anybody have some, or have a reputable source that currently has some in stock? Thanks, and Happy Holidays, Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 12 Dec 2022 21:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Robert Parks via pbs Subject: Offering Zantedeschia hybrids, summer calla lilies to good homes Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 20:32:26 -0800 Thank you all for your interest, the Zantedeschia are all requested. Robert On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 9:14 PM Robert Parks wrote: > My conditions don't satisfy the needs of summer growing Zantedeschias, so > I lifted them all, about 14 varieties. > > Numbers range from a few to many, with a broad range of colors. > > Offer details: I will send them for free to USA locations that aren't > frozen (your judgement, the tubers won't tolerate frost). Email me offlist ( > trolleypup@gmail.com), we can discuss via email details of what you > want/varieties offered. > > Robert > in cool wet San Francisco, with a smattering of pretty flowers (mostly > Oxalis at the moment) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 15 Dec 2022 08:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <58f8c5fc-6010-a4b1-f6f2-23a50661d311@odysseybulbs.com> From: "Russell Stafford, Odyssey Bulbs via pbs" Subject: 2023 Odyssey Perennials catalog on line Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 11:13:37 -0500 The 2023 Odyssey Perennials catalog is now online.  As usual, it includes a number of hard to find bulbs and other geophytes including /Physochlaina orientalis/ and /Veratrum virginicum/. Thanks, Russell -- Russell Stafford Odyssey Bulbs russell@odysseybulbs.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <5f06fe77-0b9e-31c8-7435-53566042afdf@mcn.org> From: Mary Sue Ittner via pbs Subject: Cyrtanthus elatus × falcatus Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 09:08:23 -0800 In November I noticed some buds on a plant in my greenhouse that didn't look like a Nerine. On closer examination I discovered that I was going to see flowers for the first time on this hybrid. I obtained one bulb from an IBS auction when I attended a symposium in 2002. I've probably neglected it over the years as I wasn't quite sure what it needed, but didn't throw it out. Unlike the Cyrtanthus elatus × Cyrtanthus montanus I grow that offsets much too rapidly, this one has been much slower to offset vegetatively. I thought the flowers were very beautiful and they lasted quite awhile. I've added photos to the wiki: https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/CyrtanthusHybrids#elatus-falcatus Mary Sue _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <360376884.838122.1671229954167@mail.yahoo.com> From: Ernie DeMarie via pbs Subject: Cyrtanthus elatus × falcatus Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 22:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mary Sue,That is quite a beauty for sure. Just in time for the holidays too. Erniein cold and wet NY where no bulbs bloom outside but oxalis spp and a few other bulbs bloom inside under led lights.  I can't wait for spring to come, I'm not a fan of short often dark days nor cold weather.  However we did avoid the heavy snow that much of the rest of the state got and I'm grateful for that.  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <000601d9149b$d89b19b0$89d14d10$@hansennursery.com> From: R Hansen via pbs Subject: MSI Grant Applications available Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:52:36 -0800 https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=r4jboanef5v6 rjhaepm6apbi7g &page=grant There was no room in The Bulb Garden you will soon be receiving (it's at the printer's) and I wanted to reminded you all of an important service the Pacific Bulb Society provides to academics and other qualified applicants for financial assistance in studying some aspect of bulbs. Details are available at the above link. If you have questions, please contact me. PBS did not award any grants for fiscal year 2022, so the board hopes you will consider spreading this announcement around and if you have a project, please apply. Applicants must be members to receive these grants. Also, a generous member has donated a sum to be used for pollen studies of a specific kind. If you are interested, please contact me. Depending on the number of qualified applicants, there could be some additional funds available to supplement this donation. Enjoy the holidays. As gardeners I do believe the Winter Solstice is our signal to look forward to the new year ahead. Best regards, Robin Hansen President, PBS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 28 Dec 2022 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <00135abb-ff66-20de-f094-7395ebad30a5@charter.net> From: Marc Rosenblum via pbs Subject: Libertia sessiliflorus Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 12:53:43 -0800 Hello, all Can someone advise on how to germinate Libertia sessiliflorus? Marc Rosenblum   (8b) _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 28 Dec 2022 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <858b4577-7fd6-e127-7fc3-676ad54892fb@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary via pbs Subject: Libertia sessiliflorus Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 13:32:54 -0800 Libertia sessiliflora (note spelling) should germinate readily if sown in moderately cool temperatures in fall. I haven't seen its seeds, but if they are relatively large, they might benefit from mild scarification as some irids do, and/or from the soaking recommended below to remove germination inhibitors. It is probably not winter-hardy outdoors in western Oregon, where Marc lives. In nature in central coastal Chile, I have seen it growing on steep slopes in moist stream canyons, amid dense vegetation and near such moisture lovers as Gunnera. The flowers are a rather strange shade of blue. Here is cultivation advice (my transl.) from Riedemann & Aldunate's invaluable /FLora nativa de valor ornamental/: "It is propagated from seed, stratified [exposed to moist chilling] in autumn or normally in spring, in a soil mix of one part compost, one of sand, and half garden soil, after being soaked for 24 hours before [sowing] [that's a common trick with irid seed]. Transplant into pots when seedlings are approximately 3 cm tall. It can also be multiplied by division of the clumps, separating the rhizomes in autumn, but not too frequently, only every three years, so that it can recuperate after division." They also list its requirements as low light (i.e., part shade), high moisture, and deep soil rich in organic matter, recommending it for shady gardens near water features. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA On 12/28/2022 12:53 PM, Marc Rosenblum via pbs wrote: > Hello, all > > Can someone advise on how to germinate Libertia sessiliflorus? > > > Marc Rosenblum   (8b) > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum > latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 28 Dec 2022 14:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <3aa9e3c4-56af-6746-01d9-f956d57e608b@charter.net> From: Marc Rosenblum via pbs Subject: Libertia sessiliflorus Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 13:34:59 -0800 Thank You I have a greenhouse so hardiness is not an issue Marc (8b) On 12/28/2022 1:32 PM, Jane McGary via pbs wrote: > Libertia sessiliflora (note spelling) should germinate readily if sown > in moderately cool temperatures in fall. I haven't seen its seeds, but > if they are relatively large, they might benefit from mild > scarification as some irids do, and/or from the soaking recommended > below to remove germination inhibitors. It is probably not > winter-hardy outdoors in western Oregon, where Marc lives. In nature > in central coastal Chile, I have seen it growing on steep slopes in > moist stream canyons, amid dense vegetation and near such moisture > lovers as Gunnera. The flowers are a rather strange shade of blue. > > Here is cultivation advice (my transl.) from Riedemann & Aldunate's > invaluable /FLora nativa de valor ornamental/: "It is propagated from > seed, stratified [exposed to moist chilling] in autumn or normally in > spring, in a soil mix of one part compost, one of sand, and half > garden soil, after being soaked for 24 hours before [sowing] [that's a > common trick with irid seed]. Transplant into pots when seedlings are > approximately 3 cm tall. It can also be multiplied by division of the > clumps, separating the rhizomes in autumn, but not too frequently, > only every three years, so that it can recuperate after division." > They also list its requirements as low light (i.e., part shade), high > moisture, and deep soil rich in organic matter, recommending it for > shady gardens near water features. > > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA > > On 12/28/2022 12:53 PM, Marc Rosenblum via pbs wrote: >> Hello, all >> >> Can someone advise on how to germinate Libertia sessiliflorus? >> >> >> Marc Rosenblum   (8b) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum >> latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum > latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 28 Dec 2022 18:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <06c53de6-06a5-6c3a-5025-80043d49c682@mcn.org> From: Mary Sue Ittner via pbs Subject: Libertia sessiliflora Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 17:48:08 -0800 Jane gave me a plant a number of years ago and I had no idea what it needed. I planted it out. Mine is growing in shade in coastal Northern California in sandy low nutrient soil with almost no water in summer when the soil is bone dry. I don't think I have ever fertilized it. It has survived in these conditions and flowers every year so obviously is tolerant of different conditions than recommended below. We probably get more rain than some places in California in winter, but not nearly what we used to. There are photos on the wiki of my plants. The flowers are not very big.  I have a second plant that reseeded in my garden, but I haven't seen a lot of them and I expect seed has gotten away from me more than once so maybe the special treatment Jane writes about makes a difference. https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Libertia Mary Sue On 12/28/2022 1:32 PM, Jane McGary via pbs wrote: >  They also list its requirements as low light (i.e., part shade), high > moisture, and deep soil rich in organic matter, recommending it for > shady gardens near water features. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent