pbs Cyclamen in Florida

Melanie Darst via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Wed, 23 Feb 2022 07:56:48 PST
The photo order was reversed. The first photo is "pink flowers in July".  The white flower was blooming in November. 

Tallahasse is right in the middle of North Florida and is very humid. The cyclamens are growing under trees in a thin layer of soil over heavy clay. 

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 14:12:26 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net>
To: ken isaac via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
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Your elected representatives are up for election in November.
Bob
   On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 05:49:12 AM EST, ken isaac via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:  

Just today a Canadian website seed supplier quoted me $16 for a phyto
certificate for my order.

So, I'm totally frustrated with the small lots of seed procedures if the
inspections are becoming unusually difficult (or 'selectively' difficult)
at the ports, when the regular mail lets anything in with no inspections,
especially if 'jewelry' is written on the package.? Honestly, the $16 Phyto
seems a better option than my free "small lots" permit.

What can we do about this to make the system better?
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:55:23 -0500
From: Kenneth Preteroti <k.preteroti@verizon.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Gorteria diffusa
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It?s actually my sons. He is on SA wildflowers kick. This is our first year. I have been playing pollinator with a paint brush. 

Ken P 
New Jersey, USA
Zone 7a

The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth.
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> On Feb 21, 2022, at 10:15 PM, XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
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> ?Hey Ken,
> 
> Have you been able to maintain and grow G. diffusa as perennial, small
> shrub?  A quick google search indicates that it's usually an annual.  
> 
> Nice photo of an interesting plant with great flowers.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bern
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> Subject: [pbs] Gorteria diffusa
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> Since there previous interest here is the repotted Gorteria diffusa. 
> 
> 
> 
> Ken P 
> New Jersey, USA
> Zone 7a
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> The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth.
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 10:58:45 -0800
From: Marc Rosenblum <ivanhoe3@charter.net>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Best Aphis station for small seed lot
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On 2/22/2022 6:12 AM, Robert Lauf via pbs wrote:
>  Your elected representatives are up for election in November.
> Bob
>     On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 05:49:12 AM EST, ken isaac via pbs<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>  wrote:
> 
>  Just today a Canadian website seed supplier quoted me $16 for a phyto
> certificate for my order.
> 
> So, I'm totally frustrated with the small lots of seed procedures if the
> inspections are becoming unusually difficult (or 'selectively' difficult)
> at the ports, when the regular mail lets anything in with no inspections,
> especially if 'jewelry' is written on the package.? Honestly, the $16 Phyto
> seems a better option than my free "small lots" permit.
> 
> What can we do about this to make the system better?
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I think that you would still use the small lots permit. With the Phyto 
there would not be a thorough inspection

Marc


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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 14:22:37 -0500
From: Eric <ericcom@roadrunner.com>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Best Aphis station for small seed lot
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Related question, but seed going the other way across the Atlantic. Can anyone in UK explain what is changing in regards to donating seed to UK next year. I have heard that I will need a phyto to donate seed to RHS Lily Group and SRGC. 
Is this definitely going to happen?

Thanks
Eric Duma

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> On Feb 22, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Marc Rosenblum via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
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> ?On 2/22/2022 6:12 AM, Robert Lauf via pbs wrote:
>> Your elected representatives are up for election in November.
>> Bob
>>    On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 05:49:12 AM EST, ken isaac via pbs<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>  wrote:
>>   Just today a Canadian website seed supplier quoted me $16 for a phyto
>> certificate for my order.
>> So, I'm totally frustrated with the small lots of seed procedures if the
>> inspections are becoming unusually difficult (or 'selectively' difficult)
>> at the ports, when the regular mail lets anything in with no inspections,
>> especially if 'jewelry' is written on the package.  Honestly, the $16 Phyto
>> seems a better option than my free "small lots" permit.
>> What can we do about this to make the system better?
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> I think that you would still use the small lots permit. With the Phyto there would not be a thorough inspection
> 
> Marc
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 19:56:32 -0500
From: Melanie Darst <melanie.darst@icloud.com>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: Re: [pbs] [pbs} Cyclamen coum and cyclamen in Florida
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I hesitate to contribute to the list without exact identifications and mediocre photography, but I have had cyclamens growing in my backyard for over 25 years in Florida. They came from several sources and I haven?t keep track of which is which. There were 3 bulbs of C. neapolitanum from Parks in 1993 and 4 different packets of seeds (C. coum, C. mirabile, C. pseudiberium, and C. repandum) from IBS in the mid-1990s. First photo is of one blooming in November. Second, leaves in February. Third, pink flowers in July.

Melanie Darst, Tallahassee, Florida

Where spring is bursting!









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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 02:30:24 +0000
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: Re: [pbs] Cyclamen coum and cyclamen in Florida
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Hi,

The photos that should have appeared with the post quoted are available 
from the scrubbed links at the end.


On 23/02/2022 00:56, Melanie Darst via pbs wrote:
> I hesitate to contribute to the list without exact identifications and mediocre photography, but I have had cyclamens growing in my backyard for over 25 years in Florida. They came from several sources and I haven?t keep track of which is which. There were 3 bulbs of C. neapolitanum from Parks in 1993 and 4 different packets of seeds (C. coum, C. mirabile, C. pseudiberium, and C. repandum) from IBS in the mid-1990s. First photo is of one blooming in November. Second, leaves in February. Third, pink flowers in July.
> 
> Melanie Darst, Tallahassee, Florida
> 
> Where spring is bursting!
-- 
David Pilling
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 19:54:31 -0800
From: "R Hansen" <bulbnut@hansennursery.com>
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Melanie,

Your photos all appear to be Cyclamen hederifolium. You're lucky you're in the far northwestern part of Florida because I have had a couple customers comment that cyclamen did not live long or prosper in the southern part of the state. I'm guessing a few degrees less heat, a tiny bit higher latitude, inland location, and perhaps a tiny bit less humidity contribute to your success. Your plant(s) looks happy.

We're expecting 20 F or so tonight in Southwestern Oregon about 14 miles in from the Pacific Ocean. I stashed most of the C. graecums under Reemay or in the enclosed greenhouse. We'll see how the few I left out in the nursery survive along with several other cyclamen species and other bulbs. It was 31 F at 5 p.m. and dropping... Several of the more tender cyclamen species such as balearicum are in my "alpine house" but I covered them with Reemay and left the thermometer under the cloth. The Reemay really does work - even 2 or 3 degrees of warmth can make a significant difference in survivability.

My "alpine" house is nothing  more than a small greenhouse with double-walled poly called Solexx on the sides; the upper ends of single poly are left open for year-round ventilation. The lemon tree and a lot of things I would have thought tender just seem to do well as long as I don't overwater. The Solexx is opaque and does a super job of diffusing the light.

Robin Hansen
Coquille Valley, Oregon

Thinking warm thoughts...



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