From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 28 Feb 2022 23:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Vlad Hempel via pbs Subject: Gladiolus huttonii Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2022 07:51:51 +0100 Hello Arnold, This is a true gem. Hopefully I get yo grow it one day as well. Cheers, Vlad On Mon 28. Feb 2022 at 21:35 Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I believe these are some Gladiolus huttonii hybrids. > Arnold > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Gladiolus huttonii hybrid.2022.1.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1077441 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220228/bc4b3e9c/attachment.jpe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Gladiolus huttonii hybrid.2022.3.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 404412 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220228/bc4b3e9c/attachment-0001.jpe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Gladiolus huttonii hybrid.2022.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 955941 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220228/bc4b3e9c/attachment-0002.jpe > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 02 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Tim Eck via pbs Subject: my favorite crinum cross Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 10:39:45 -0500 My favorite crinum is blooming already because I brought it into the heated sunroom in January. I like this one because it makes multiple upright bloomstalks that remain upright until seeds ripen, it has attractive recurved petals with white throats and it refuses to offset after ten years or more. Some think the object is to have a lot of offsets to sell or give away but I was specifically trying to breed a display plant that would have attractive, even statuesque, foliage and bloom rather than a weedy patch with a blob of color. Admittedly, it looks a bit gangly in the greenhouse but not so in higher light. Most of the time crosses are pretty much what you expect, but sometimes they come out a lot better than you deserve. This is one of those. I will try to chip this plant in a year or so after I am confident in my technique and equipment. One of the attached images is my heater for the chipping chamber. I made it from two flood lights wired in series to keep them at a safe orange glow. I have it sitting on a lower shelf of a free standing wire shelf unit and the heating unit thermister in the plastic shoeboxes above with the chips and medium. At first I tried it with the thermister in the vermiculite but the temperature swings were much greater than when I put it in the air above the medium. Since you aren't even supposed to look at them for six weeks, I just wrapped the shelves in a blanket and plastic and monitor the temperature with a weather sensor transmitter. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20220227_085011 copy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 165930 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: favorite crinum copy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 115189 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Some think the object is to have a lot of offsets to sell or give away but I was specifically trying to breed a display plant that would have attractive, even statuesque, foliage and bloom rather than a weedy patch with a blob of color.  Admittedly, it looks a bit gangly in the greenhouse but not so in higher light. Most of the time crosses are pretty much what you expect, but sometimes they come out a lot better than you deserve. This is one of those. I will try to chip this plant in a year or so after I am confident in my technique and equipment.  One of the attached images is my heater for the chipping chamber.  I made it from two flood lights wired in series to keep them at a safe orange glow.  I have it sitting on a lower shelf of a free standing wire shelf unit and the heating unit thermister in the plastic shoeboxes above with the chips and medium.  At first I tried it with the thermister in the vermiculite but the temperature swings were much greater than when I put it in the air above the medium.  Since you aren't even supposed to look at them for six weeks, I just wrapped the shelves in a blanket and plastic and monitor the temperature with a weather sensor transmitter. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20220227_085011 copy.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 165930 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 10:40:03 AM EST, > Tim Eck via pbs wrote: > > My favorite crinum is blooming already because I brought it into the > heated > sunroom in January. I like this one because it makes multiple upright > bloomstalks that remain upright until seeds ripen, it has attractive > recurved petals with white throats and it refuses to offset after ten years > or more. > Some think the object is to have a lot of offsets to sell or give away but > I was specifically trying to breed a display plant that would have > attractive, even statuesque, foliage and bloom rather than a weedy patch > with a blob of color. Admittedly, it looks a bit gangly in the greenhouse > but not so in higher light. Most of the time crosses are pretty much what > you expect, but sometimes they come out a lot better than you deserve. > This is one of those. > I will try to chip this plant in a year or so after I am confident in my > technique and equipment. One of the attached images is my heater for the > chipping chamber. I made it from two flood lights wired in series to keep > them at a safe orange glow. I have it sitting on a lower shelf of a free > standing wire shelf unit and the heating unit thermister in the plastic > shoeboxes above with the chips and medium. At first I tried it with the > thermister in the vermiculite but the temperature swings were much greater > than when I put it in the air above the medium. 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It never has darker markings on the tepals. It opens late afternoon on brighter days. This is a photo of its current bloom in the unheated hoophouse. In the past it has been more of a yellow color, but never bright yellow. It has been overcast and rainy since it opened. Identifying tag was lost long ago. Any help in positive id would be appreciated. I hope the photo comes through. If not, David please do your magic. Thank you, Mike zn. 7, cool mediterranean western Washington state -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Among the orchids he grows are a number of the geophytic European terrestrials like Ophrys and Himantoglossum, and he has no trouble flowering them. Steve On 2/26/2022 3:25 PM, Kenneth Preteroti wrote: >  Steve yes you are correct that I am aware of the lumen/lux vs > ppf/ppfd, human eye vs plant. Throw in PAR too! > None of these terms seem to truly help the hobbiest grow Massonia’s, > Conophytum’s or Cannabis. > > My reason for high end LED’s is light penetration.  I wanted to > replace my HPS system rated at 55000 lumens. I could have went with a > dozen T5HO fluorescent. However the LED’s at 325 watts made the most > sense to me. This was for growing in the basement. > > I started with supplemental lighting last year when I saw Arnold’s > results who lives in the same state as me. Arnold indicated he used > supplemental lighting based on advice from Rimmer. Now I am a full > member of the supplemental light club. Ha ha. I need adjustable height > hangers for the lights next year. > > Steve noticed my LED’s are under driven and therefore are passively > cooled. Heat kills LED’s. Stay away from fan cooled systems. The fans > last a year or two and need replacement or you kill your LED’s. Heat > is wasted energy and money. > > > > Ken P > New Jersey, USA > Zone 7a > > The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. > >  George Orwell, 1984 > > > >> On Feb 26, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Steve Marak wrote: >> >>  Hi Ken, >> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 03 Mar 2022 01:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike Rummerfield via pbs Subject: Supplemental winter lights Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 00:49:06 -0800 Steve, Thanks for the info on socket-compatible HO LED tubes, ballast-bypass type. I was unaware of their existence. I'll give them a try. Maybe not HO, but rather plug-and-play LED tubes of 5000K. (Not really sure what I'm talking about here, but further research should remedy that.) I checked - a big box store here carries them. Regards, Mike On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 12:01 AM Steve Marak via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Ken, > > One more short note on this. A friend who is a basement grower began > with a dozen or so T5HO fixtures to get the rather high light levels he > needed - expensive both initially and when replacing the fluorescent > tubes (all 4 tube or more fixtures). He's been replacing the tubes with > socket-compatible HO LED tubes that he found online, ballast-bypass > type, one fixture at a time and after a couple of years seems pleased - > cheaper and more light. Among the orchids he grows are a number of the > geophytic European terrestrials like Ophrys and Himantoglossum, and he > has no trouble flowering them. > > Steve > > On 2/26/2022 3:25 PM, Kenneth Preteroti wrote: > >  Steve yes you are correct that I am aware of the lumen/lux vs > > ppf/ppfd, human eye vs plant. Throw in PAR too! > > None of these terms seem to truly help the hobbiest grow Massonia’s, > > Conophytum’s or Cannabis. > > > > My reason for high end LED’s is light penetration. I wanted to > > replace my HPS system rated at 55000 lumens. I could have went with a > > dozen T5HO fluorescent. However the LED’s at 325 watts made the most > > sense to me. This was for growing in the basement. > > > > I started with supplemental lighting last year when I saw Arnold’s > > results who lives in the same state as me. Arnold indicated he used > > supplemental lighting based on advice from Rimmer. Now I am a full > > member of the supplemental light club. Ha ha. I need adjustable height > > hangers for the lights next year. > > > > Steve noticed my LED’s are under driven and therefore are passively > > cooled. Heat kills LED’s. Stay away from fan cooled systems. The fans > > last a year or two and need replacement or you kill your LED’s. Heat > > is wasted energy and money. > > > > > > > > Ken P > > New Jersey, USA > > Zone 7a > > > > The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. > > > > George Orwell, 1984 > > > > > > > >> On Feb 26, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Steve Marak > wrote: > >> > >>  Hi Ken, > >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 03 Mar 2022 05:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Tim Eck via pbs Subject: Supplemental winter lights Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 08:12:02 -0500 I bought a box of 20 x 4' 'workbench type LED fixtures on amazon a few years ago that I mostly used in the basement. They were less than half the price than others (Harbor Freight) charged and generally worked great in the basement. However, two of the four that I installed in the garage deteriorated very rapidly - by biofouling, I presume. I had seen a similar biofouling in outdoor fixtures where I used corncob LEDs. These had a few small inconspicuous holes in them to promote convective cooling which were blocked by small insects and arachnids they attracted and I assume this is what happened to the 4' fixtures. In general, these are very quick and easy to install as they daisy-chain with included plug in connectors and each one uses only two single screw clips for support that they snap into. The hardware is included and they work great BUT you will probably do yourself a favor by installing some circulating fans to help carry away excess heat if you bunch them together. Here is a link to the 8' lights on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RKZFD5Z/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?pd_rd_i=B07RKZFD5Z&pd_rd_w=mJbyc&pf_rd_p=57cbdc41-b731-4e3d-aca7-49078b13a07b&pd_rd_wg=bv8dL&pf_rd_r=YQWJBFRHCQCTQV939K5P&pd_rd_r=d677a9e8-a4f2-4477-aebb-c4116d8b094a&s=hi&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzQjhLRU1IWVhQQUtDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjM5MDQ0MTFBTUUzTzIwOEoyUyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTU4NDcxOEMxQlRBTkQ1VTQmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWMmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl&th=1 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 03 Mar 2022 08:17:05 -0800 Message-Id: <35159AF0-55D2-4A2F-8D69-52CCEAEE7271@verizon.net> From: Kenneth Preteroti via pbs Subject: Supplemental winter lights Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 10:52:46 -0500 Steve I was considering led replacement for HO fluorescent bulbs. I didn’t want to wire the bypass of the ballast so I was looking at straight replacements. Outside of longer life the straight replacements did not impress me. I will give the ballast bypass type another look. Ken P New Jersey, USA Zone 7a The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. George Orwell, 1984 > On Mar 3, 2022, at 3:01 AM, Steve Marak via pbs wrote: > > Ken, > > One more short note on this. A friend who is a basement grower began with a dozen or so T5HO fixtures to get the rather high light levels he needed - expensive both initially and when replacing the fluorescent tubes (all 4 tube or more fixtures). He's been replacing the tubes with socket-compatible HO LED tubes that he found online, ballast-bypass type, one fixture at a time and after a couple of years seems pleased - cheaper and more light. Among the orchids he grows are a number of the geophytic European terrestrials like Ophrys and Himantoglossum, and he has no trouble flowering them. > > Steve _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:17:07 -0800 Message-Id: From: Rimmer de Vries via pbs Subject: Scilla monanthos ? Looking to confirm an id on this early Scilla Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 10:20:56 -0600 This is the first Scilla to bloom in my non protected open garden. It has lost it label. Each stem has a single bloom, so i expect it is Scilla monanthos. Can someone confirm or correct the identity? Rimmer S Kentucky Zone6b _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:17:07 -0800 Message-Id: From: Garak via pbs Subject: Scilla monanthos ? Looking to confirm an id on this early Scilla Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 17:36:08 +0100 Hi Rimmer, first Scilla to bloom and single bloom per (thin) stem seems like the plant I grow under that label - good to remind me, I'll have to add a picture of the established plant to the Wiki. Martin Am 03.03.2022 um 17:20 schrieb Rimmer de Vries via pbs: > This is the first Scilla to bloom in my non protected open garden. It has lost it label. Each stem has a single bloom, so i expect it is Scilla monanthos. Can someone confirm or correct the identity? > > Rimmer > S Kentucky > Zone6b > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > -- Martin (pronoun: he) ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 03 Mar 2022 09:17:07 -0800 Message-Id: <1625379725.356125.1646325863763@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Ferraria variabilis and Lachenalia carnosa Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 16:44:22 +0000 (UTC) A different clone of Ferraria variabilis and Lachenalia carnosa. Arnold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For him the advantages of the bypass type - uses a little less power, since you're not driving the fluorescent power supplies as well as the LED driver modules, and eliminates the ballasts as points of future failure (and they will fail!) - outweighed the pain of having to open the fixtures and wire around the ballast. Depends a bit on whether you're comfortable doing the wiring yourself or not, and he was. It's not hard, as long as the fixtures aren't difficult to open up, but obviously any wiring work involving direct household power has safety implications. Steve On 3/3/2022 2:49 AM, Mike Rummerfield via pbs wrote: > Steve, > Thanks for the info on socket-compatible HO LED tubes, ballast-bypass type. > I was unaware of their existence. > I'll give them a try. Maybe not HO, but rather plug-and-play LED tubes of > 5000K. (Not really sure what I'm talking about here, but further research > should remedy that.) I checked - a big box store here carries them. > > Regards, > Mike On 3/3/2022 9:52 AM, Kenneth Preteroti wrote: > Steve I was considering led replacement for HO fluorescent bulbs. I > didn’t want to wire the bypass of the ballast so I was looking at > straight replacements. Outside of longer life the straight > replacements did not impress me. I will give the ballast bypass type > another look. > > Ken P > New Jersey, USA > Zone 7a > > The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth. > >  George Orwell, 1984 > > > >> On Mar 3, 2022, at 3:01 AM, Steve Marak via pbs >> wrote: >> >> Ken, >> >> One more short note on this. A friend who is a basement grower began >> with a dozen or so T5HO fixtures to get the rather high light levels >> he needed - expensive both initially and when replacing the >> fluorescent tubes (all 4 tube or more fixtures). He's been replacing >> the tubes with socket-compatible HO LED tubes that he found online, >> ballast-bypass type, one fixture at a time and after a couple of >> years seems pleased - cheaper and more light. Among the orchids he >> grows are a number of the geophytic European terrestrials like Ophrys >> and Himantoglossum, and he has no trouble flowering them. >> >> Steve _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 03 Mar 2022 11:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <03d6fa8f-bf73-63c2-6674-864f942bf06c@gmail.com> From: Roy Herold via pbs Subject: Supplemental winter lights Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 13:55:41 -0500 Steve, Ken, Mike, et al, A couple of observations here.... I finally took the plunge last fall and got some LED fixtures for the greenhouse. The biggest problem here is actually in fall when the sun goes behind the tall trees to the south that don't lose their leaves until mid November. These trees are around 20 feet taller than when I built the greenhouse, and things have been getting worse and worse. I was torn between getting a generic 5000k fixture and one that had more light wavelengths in a single fixture. The latter seem to be like some of the ones that Ken is using in terms of having multiple types of LEDs, a mix of blue, warm white, red and IR. I selected one from Amazon made by SHZLUX: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08JLJ3D6Y I was very impressed with what I received. The construction is great, lots of cords, switches, adjustable hanging cables, etc. They consume 70W per 4' fixture and are insanely bright. I bought a set of 2 for less than $25 each, they worked fine, and I got four more. These easily cover about 25' of 3' wide benches. The aluminum extrusion used for a housing is a great heat sink and dissipator. No problem at all with starting after a cold night with temps below 40F. SHZLUX also makes regular 5000k fixtures with the same design if you'd like to follow the recommendations of Steve and others. Regarding the other option of changing fluorescent tubes to LED, I'd recommend against it. The price for a pair of LED tubes is comparable to a single new fixture like I got, and I don't think the performance is nearly as good. I had a terrible experience inside my house with replacing fluorescent tubes with LEDs in the kitchen and other rooms. I jumpered out the ballast as recommended. I went through bulbs from 3 different manufacturers, finally sending over 20 back for refunds. Problems were mainly noise, a terrible buzz and hum that made them unbearable indoors. Others died after a couple of weeks, some flickered, lots arrived damaged, and some were just weak. Realize up front that the heat dissipation from a tube is much worse than an integrated fixture. Finally, take a look at the attached picture of a happy Eucomis regia. This was from early January, and it's just starting to come into bloom now. --Roy NW of Boston On 3/3/2022 11:44 AM, Steve Marak via pbs wrote: > Ken & Mike, > > My friend looked at both the ballast-bypass and straight replacement > HO LED tubes for his fixtures. For him the advantages of the bypass > type - uses a little less power, since you're not driving the > fluorescent power supplies as well as the LED driver modules, and > eliminates the ballasts as points of future failure (and they will > fail!) - outweighed the pain of having to open the fixtures and wire > around the ballast. Depends a bit on whether you're comfortable doing > the wiring yourself or not, and he was. 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On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:55 AM Roy Herold via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Steve, Ken, Mike, et al, > > A couple of observations here.... > > I finally took the plunge last fall and got some LED fixtures for the > greenhouse. The biggest problem here is actually in fall when the sun > goes behind the tall trees to the south that don't lose their leaves > until mid November. These trees are around 20 feet taller than when I > built the greenhouse, and things have been getting worse and worse. > > I was torn between getting a generic 5000k fixture and one that had more > light wavelengths in a single fixture. The latter seem to be like some > of the ones that Ken is using in terms of having multiple types of LEDs, > a mix of blue, warm white, red and IR. I selected one from Amazon made > by SHZLUX: > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08JLJ3D6Y > > I was very impressed with what I received. The construction is great, > lots of cords, switches, adjustable hanging cables, etc. They consume > 70W per 4' fixture and are insanely bright. I bought a set of 2 for less > than $25 each, they worked fine, and I got four more. These easily cover > about 25' of 3' wide benches. > > The aluminum extrusion used for a housing is a great heat sink and > dissipator. No problem at all with starting after a cold night with > temps below 40F. SHZLUX also makes regular 5000k fixtures with the same > design if you'd like to follow the recommendations of Steve and others. > > Regarding the other option of changing fluorescent tubes to LED, I'd > recommend against it. The price for a pair of LED tubes is comparable to > a single new fixture like I got, and I don't think the performance is > nearly as good. I had a terrible experience inside my house with > replacing fluorescent tubes with LEDs in the kitchen and other rooms. I > jumpered out the ballast as recommended. I went through bulbs from 3 > different manufacturers, finally sending over 20 back for refunds. > Problems were mainly noise, a terrible buzz and hum that made them > unbearable indoors. Others died after a couple of weeks, some flickered, > lots arrived damaged, and some were just weak. Realize up front that the > heat dissipation from a tube is much worse than an integrated fixture. > > Finally, take a look at the attached picture of a happy Eucomis regia. > This was from early January, and it's just starting to come into bloom now. > > --Roy > NW of Boston > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Eucomis_regia_010822.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1304834 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220303/26c23fb9/attachment.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 01:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs Subject: Red gladiolus Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:17:24 +0000 Hello Arnold, Could your red gladiolus be G. splendens? 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All other material which will be announced later will go into the second round of the EU spring BX/SX. If you have questions, please do not hesitate to contact Uli Urban (johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de) Martin and Uli -- Martin (pronoun: he) ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 04:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Garak via pbs Subject: [Sorry] was: pbs-list, should have been EX update Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 12:54:02 +0100 Wrong title, sorry about that - everything else in this message is as is should be: Am 04.03.2022 um 12:50 schrieb Garak via pbs: > Dear EU members of the PBS, > > We have received a good amount of donations and can start the > distribution soon, you will be notified. If you have material you > still want to send, please let Martin know as soon as possible ( > garak@code-garak.de) and do send it straight away. > > The address: Martin Bohnet, Ludwigstr. 1, 73035 Göppingen, Germany. > > Not to worry if you cannot make it right now. We will await reception > of all donations which are announced until (including) Monday, March > 7th. All other material which will be announced later will go into the > second round of the EU spring BX/SX. > > If you have questions, please do not hesitate to contact Uli Urban > (johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de) > > > Martin and Uli > -- Martin (pronoun: he) ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 05:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mark Akimoff via pbs Subject: Growing Moraea from Seed? Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 05:15:15 -0800 Hello all, I was looking back at some posts here about growing Moraea from seed and ran across some comments about the dangers of starting Moraea in late winter as the bulbs will not get big enough to survive the dry summer period. I have a number of pots germinating now and was wondering about the possibility of keeping them growing as long as possible before putting them into dormancy? Or alternatively just trying to store them over summer in as cool a location as possible? Any tips for getting late germinating seed pots of Moraea through the summer would be appreciated! Thanks, Mark Akimoff Salem, Oregon _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 06:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <787651655.554744.1646401869694@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Growing Moraea from Seed? Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 13:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Mark As a general rule I try to keep any first year seedlings growing as long as possible. Keeping them cool has always seemed to be a requirement. I store all of my SA bulbs in a cool basement for the summer months. I find that Moraea are pretty tolerable bulbs. Arnold -----Original Message----- From: Mark Akimoff via pbs To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: makimoff76@gmail.com Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2022 8:15 am Subject: [pbs] Growing Moraea from Seed? Hello all, I was looking back at some posts here about growing Moraea from seed and ran across some comments about the dangers of starting Moraea in late winter as the bulbs will not get big enough to survive the dry summer period. I have a number of pots germinating now and was wondering about the possibility of keeping them growing as long as possible before putting them into dormancy? Or alternatively just trying to store them over summer in as cool a location as possible? Any tips for getting late germinating seed pots of Moraea through the summer would be appreciated! Thanks, Mark Akimoff Salem, Oregon _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 06:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <2100814811.559098.1646402701600@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Red gladiolus Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 14:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Uli The Gladioli came as G. alatus which it is not. The three Gladiolus that are very much alike are: G. cunonius G. splendens G. saccatus. Descriptions in the new Saunders book describe the subtle differences. G. cunonius; upper lateral tepals point upwards, lower tepals curve upwards G. splendens: upper tepasl point upwards, lower tepals point down G. saccatus: perianth tube has a sac-like spur at base, upper lateral tepals do not point upwards I'd be very pleased if someone could confirm the ID of this Gladiolus. I've attached a couple of images of the bulb in question. AS you cna see I'm not sure of it's name. Arnold -----Original Message----- From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Johannes-Ulrich Urban Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2022 3:17 am Subject: [pbs] Red gladiolus Hello Arnold, Could your red gladiolus be G. splendens? Mine has no detectable fragrance. Bye for now Uli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Greetings and you will have a good weekend. https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaqSVPJJemb/?utm_medium=copy_link https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaqSVPJJemb/?utm_medium=copy_link https://www.instagram.com/tv/CagEfsqLi9d/?utm_medium=copy_link -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG-20220228-WA0057.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 237473 bytes Desc: not available URL: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <78CF31EB-05DB-43B5-A28B-D55A1E11DD41@roadrunner.com> From: Eric via pbs Subject: Rain lily Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 10:46:01 -0500 That is amazing. How many flowers do you think there are in that are? Eric Duma Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2022, at 10:41 AM, Analia Gianini via pbs wrote: > > Dear > My name is Analia, I am from the Northwest of Argentina. Recently, our area > suffered droughts and fires, mainly in the Corrientes area. Fortunately it > has rained these days, and with them the rain lilies have resurfaced. I > wanted to show some photos that are usually shared o Internet and local > newpapers. > > Greetings and you will have a good weekend. > > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaqSVPJJemb/?utm_medium=copy_link > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaqSVPJJemb/?utm_medium=copy_link > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CagEfsqLi9d/?utm_medium=copy_link > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG-20220228-WA0057.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 237473 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <36de0bb8-b9f2-8289-be2b-5480cef6e745@mcn.org> From: Mary Sue Ittner via pbs Subject: Red gladiolus Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 07:52:15 -0800 From the Gladiolus descriptions I think your photos look like Gladious cunonius and they also look like the photos of that species on that wiki page. That last photo you shared is really beautiful. On 3/4/2022 6:05 AM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: > The three Gladiolus that are very much alike are: > > G. cunonius > G. splendens > G. saccatus. > Descriptions in the new Saunders book describe the subtle differences. > G. cunonius; upper lateral tepals point upwards, lower tepals curve upwards > G. splendens: upper tepasl point upwards, lower tepals point down > G. saccatus: perianth tube has a sac-like spur at base, upper lateral tepals do not point upwards > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <0488a878-c801-e1ef-eaea-dbc7697b907b@gmail.com> From: Judy Glattstein via pbs Subject: Rain lily Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 10:59:21 -0500 Lovely! Thanks for sharing Analia. Judy in New Jersey. No flowers outdoors here. This morning (it's 11:00 a.m.) is still well below freezing and I have a fire in the wood burning stove. On 3/4/2022 10:41 AM, Analia Gianini via pbs wrote: -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 08:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Erin Grace via pbs Subject: Rain lily Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 11:03:27 -0500 Beautiful! On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 10:41 AM Analia Gianini via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Dear > My name is Analia, I am from the Northwest of Argentina. Recently, our area > suffered droughts and fires, mainly in the Corrientes area. Fortunately it > has rained these days, and with them the rain lilies have resurfaced. I > wanted to show some photos that are usually shared o Internet and local > newpapers. > > Greetings and you will have a good weekend. > > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaqSVPJJemb/?utm_medium=copy_link > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaqSVPJJemb/?utm_medium=copy_link > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CagEfsqLi9d/?utm_medium=copy_link > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG-20220228-WA0057.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 237473 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220304/2335192c/attachment.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 09:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Cody H via pbs Subject: Spring in the Algarve Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:42:27 -0800 Wow, that looks amazing Uli. Huge clouds of flowers all around. :) On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 1:36 AM Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Dear All, > > A few days ago I went to the same beach as some weeks ago, this time the > Retama monosperma being in full flower. And the air is full of sweet scent. > A magic landscape behind the chain of high dunes. 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That bulbs be there sllways. Web don,t see because de grasa. Algo recuerdo del Inglés , no mucho. El vie., 4 de marzo de 2022 1:03 p. m., Erin Grace via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> escribió: > Beautiful! > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 10:41 AM Analia Gianini via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Dear > > My name is Analia, I am from the Northwest of Argentina. Recently, our > area > > suffered droughts and fires, mainly in the Corrientes area. Fortunately > it > > has rained these days, and with them the rain lilies have resurfaced. I > > wanted to show some photos that are usually shared o Internet and local > > newpapers. > > > > Greetings and you will have a good weekend. > > > > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaqSVPJJemb/?utm_medium=copy_link > > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaqSVPJJemb/?utm_medium=copy_link > > https://www.instagram.com/tv/CagEfsqLi9d/?utm_medium=copy_link > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: IMG-20220228-WA0057.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 237473 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220304/2335192c/attachment.jpg > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 11:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mark Akimoff via pbs Subject: Growing Moraea from Seed? Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 10:29:09 -0800 Hi Arnold, Thank you! I will try keep them going as long as possible. Mark Salem, Oregon > On Mar 4, 2022, at 5:51 AM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: > Mark > As a general rule I try to keep any first year seedlings growing as long as possible. > Keeping them cool has always seemed to be a requirement. > I store all of my SA bulbs in a cool basement for the summer months. > I find that Moraea are pretty tolerable bulbs. > Arnold > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Akimoff via pbs > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: makimoff76@gmail.com > Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2022 8:15 am > Subject: [pbs] Growing Moraea from Seed? > > Hello all, > > I was looking back at some posts here about growing Moraea from seed and ran across some comments about the dangers of starting Moraea in late winter as the bulbs will not get big enough to survive the dry summer period. I have a number of pots germinating now and was wondering about the possibility of keeping them growing as long as possible before putting them into dormancy? Or alternatively just trying to store them over summer in as cool a location as possible? > > Any tips for getting late germinating seed pots of Moraea through the summer would be appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Mark Akimoff > Salem, Oregon > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 22:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: bocajoe via pbs Subject: PBS website contact:Cyrtanthus x henryae 'William Penn' Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2022 19:04:40 -0500 HiI have lots of info on this bulb, have grown it for yearsDon't know how to reply or post to this user comment. 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Bridget is a bulb nut with a special love for South American bulbs and is excited to be contributing as a volunteer to PBS. She says she has been a "lurker" on our discussion group for quite some time. Bridget is in southeastern Pennsylvania on several acres, busy planting a new garden but with time to contribute. We welcome her to our much beloved exchanges! Bridget has an email address specifically for the bulb exchange and when she announces the spring exchange will give all the information needed. Considering the wild winter we've had in various parts of the US, I can imagine we're all looking forward to spring, whenever it may come, and to the next exchange. Many thanks for your patience! Regards, Robin Hansen PBS President _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: Ferraria variabilis and Lachenalia carnosa Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 20:43:40 -0800 Arnold, The F. Variabilis photos are great. Crisp focus, buttery bokah. Thanks for taking the time to create a great photo thaft makes me want to grow this unusual species. Mike San Diego On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:44 AM Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > A different clone of Ferraria variabilis and Lachenalia carnosa. > Arnold > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Lachenalia carnosa.2022.3.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 962389 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220303/f8dff9e6/attachment.jpe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Ferraria variabilis.2022.4.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1703870 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220303/f8dff9e6/attachment-0001.jpe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Ferraria variabilis.2.2022.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1519879 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220303/f8dff9e6/attachment-0002.jpe > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: my favorite crinum cross Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 20:49:15 -0800 Tim, The crinum are beautiful, and so is that nice staghorn hanging on the wall above. Mike San Diego On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 7:40 AM Tim Eck via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > My favorite crinum is blooming already because I brought it into the heated > sunroom in January. I like this one because it makes multiple upright > bloomstalks that remain upright until seeds ripen, it has attractive > recurved petals with white throats and it refuses to offset after ten years > or more. > Some think the object is to have a lot of offsets to sell or give away but > I was specifically trying to breed a display plant that would have > attractive, even statuesque, foliage and bloom rather than a weedy patch > with a blob of color. Admittedly, it looks a bit gangly in the greenhouse > but not so in higher light. Most of the time crosses are pretty much what > you expect, but sometimes they come out a lot better than you deserve. > This is one of those. > I will try to chip this plant in a year or so after I am confident in my > technique and equipment. One of the attached images is my heater for the > chipping chamber. I made it from two flood lights wired in series to keep > them at a safe orange glow. I have it sitting on a lower shelf of a free > standing wire shelf unit and the heating unit thermister in the plastic > shoeboxes above with the chips and medium. At first I tried it with the > thermister in the vermiculite but the temperature swings were much greater > than when I put it in the air above the medium. 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That one is lemoinei and I'm standing under superbum to take the photo. Lemoinei grows on rock faces in the desert, is fuzzy whitish and pups frequently while superbum is a temperate version of grande, makes a magnificent crest, grows on trees and does not pup. Tim On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 11:49 PM Mike via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Tim, > > The crinum are beautiful, and so is that nice staghorn hanging on the wall > above. > > Mike > San Diego > On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 7:40 AM Tim Eck via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > My favorite crinum is blooming already because I brought it into the > heated > > sunroom in January. I like this one because it makes multiple upright > > bloomstalks that remain upright until seeds ripen, it has attractive > > recurved petals with white throats and it refuses to offset after ten > years > > or more. > > Some think the object is to have a lot of offsets to sell or give away > but > > I was specifically trying to breed a display plant that would have > > attractive, even statuesque, foliage and bloom rather than a weedy patch > > with a blob of color. Admittedly, it looks a bit gangly in the > greenhouse > > but not so in higher light. Most of the time crosses are pretty much what > > you expect, but sometimes they come out a lot better than you deserve. > > This is one of those. > > I will try to chip this plant in a year or so after I am confident in my > > technique and equipment. One of the attached images is my heater for the > > chipping chamber. I made it from two flood lights wired in series to > keep > > them at a safe orange glow. I have it sitting on a lower shelf of a free > > standing wire shelf unit and the heating unit thermister in the plastic > > shoeboxes above with the chips and medium. At first I tried it with the > > thermister in the vermiculite but the temperature swings were much > greater > > than when I put it in the air above the medium. Since you aren't even > > supposed to look at them for six weeks, I just wrapped the shelves in a > > blanket and plastic and monitor the temperature with a weather sensor > > transmitter. > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: 20220227_085011 copy.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 165930 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220302/817e040d/attachment.jpg > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: favorite crinum copy.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 115189 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220302/817e040d/attachment-0001.jpg > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: favorite crinum cross copy.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 188501 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220302/817e040d/attachment-0002.jpg > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 05 Mar 2022 06:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <689735712.96816.1646486689293@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Ferraria variabilis and Lachenalia carnosa Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 13:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Mike thanks. I think we all over look some of the flower details. It gives such insight into pollinators and strategies for survival  Arnold Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Friday, March 4, 2022, 11:44 PM, Mike via pbs wrote: Arnold, The F. Variabilis photos are great. Crisp focus, buttery bokah. Thanks for taking the time to create a great photo thaft makes me want to grow this unusual species. Mike San Diego On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:44 AM Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > A different clone of Ferraria variabilis and Lachenalia carnosa. > Arnold > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Lachenalia carnosa.2022.3.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 962389 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220303/f8dff9e6/attachment.jpe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Ferraria variabilis.2022.4.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1703870 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220303/f8dff9e6/attachment-0001.jpe > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Ferraria variabilis.2.2022.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1519879 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220303/f8dff9e6/attachment-0002.jpe > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 05 Mar 2022 07:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <68AC5E03-50EC-409E-B6E3-90A1F5329E8E@verizon.net> From: Kenneth Preteroti via pbs Subject: New Bulb Exchange Director Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 09:17:40 -0500 Thank you for volunteering Bridget! Ken P New Jersey, USA Zone 7a “Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past” George Orwell, 1984 > On Mar 4, 2022, at 9:10 PM, R Hansen via pbs wrote: > > Hello, everyone, > > > > The Pacific Bulb Society Board of Directors is delighted to announce the > appointment of Bridget Wosczyna (pronounced Wah zeen a) to the position of > Bulb Exchange Director for the US. Bridget is a bulb nut with a special love > for South American bulbs and is excited to be contributing as a volunteer to > PBS. She says she has been a "lurker" on our discussion group for quite some > time. Bridget is in southeastern Pennsylvania on several acres, busy > planting a new garden but with time to contribute. We welcome her to our > much beloved exchanges! > > > > Bridget has an email address specifically for the bulb exchange and when she > announces the spring exchange will give all the information needed. > Considering the wild winter we've had in various parts of the US, I can > imagine we're all looking forward to spring, whenever it may come, and to > the next exchange. > > > > Many thanks for your patience! > > > > Regards, > > > > Robin Hansen > > PBS President > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 05 Mar 2022 07:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Leigh Blake via pbs Subject: New Bulb Exchange Director Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 07:02:25 -0800 THANK YOU!!! On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 6:17 AM Kenneth Preteroti via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Thank you for volunteering Bridget! > > Ken P > New Jersey, USA > Zone 7a > > “Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present > controls the past” > > George Orwell, 1984 > > > > > On Mar 4, 2022, at 9:10 PM, R Hansen via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > Hello, everyone, > > > > > > > > The Pacific Bulb Society Board of Directors is delighted to announce the > > appointment of Bridget Wosczyna (pronounced Wah zeen a) to the position > of > > Bulb Exchange Director for the US. Bridget is a bulb nut with a special > love > > for South American bulbs and is excited to be contributing as a > volunteer to > > PBS. She says she has been a "lurker" on our discussion group for quite > some > > time. Bridget is in southeastern Pennsylvania on several acres, busy > > planting a new garden but with time to contribute. We welcome her to our > > much beloved exchanges! > > > > > > > > Bridget has an email address specifically for the bulb exchange and when > she > > announces the spring exchange will give all the information needed. > > Considering the wild winter we've had in various parts of the US, I can > > imagine we're all looking forward to spring, whenever it may come, and to > > the next exchange. > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your patience! > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Robin Hansen > > > > PBS President > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 05 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs Subject: New Bulb Exchange Director Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 10:37:38 -0500 I’m very excited!! I promise to do my best. Bridget > On Mar 5, 2022, at 10:02 AM, Leigh Blake via pbs wrote: > > THANK YOU!!! > > >> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 6:17 AM Kenneth Preteroti via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> Thank you for volunteering Bridget! >> >> Ken P >> New Jersey, USA >> Zone 7a >> >> “Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present >> controls the past” >> >> George Orwell, 1984 >> >> >> >>> On Mar 4, 2022, at 9:10 PM, R Hansen via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> The Pacific Bulb Society Board of Directors is delighted to announce the >>> appointment of Bridget Wosczyna (pronounced Wah zeen a) to the position >> of >>> Bulb Exchange Director for the US. Bridget is a bulb nut with a special >> love >>> for South American bulbs and is excited to be contributing as a >> volunteer to >>> PBS. She says she has been a "lurker" on our discussion group for quite >> some >>> time. Bridget is in southeastern Pennsylvania on several acres, busy >>> planting a new garden but with time to contribute. We welcome her to our >>> much beloved exchanges! >>> >>> >>> >>> Bridget has an email address specifically for the bulb exchange and when >> she >>> announces the spring exchange will give all the information needed. >>> Considering the wild winter we've had in various parts of the US, I can >>> imagine we're all looking forward to spring, whenever it may come, and to >>> the next exchange. >>> >>> >>> >>> Many thanks for your patience! >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Robin Hansen >>> >>> PBS President >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >>> Unsubscribe: >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 05 Mar 2022 14:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <002701d830dd$2ab79690$8026c3b0$@verizon.net> From: Fred via pbs Subject: New Bulb Exchange Director Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 17:05:45 -0500 Thank you so much Bridget, sending lots of hugs and thanks from Cambridge, MA 😍😍😍 Warm Regards, Fred Biasella -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of R Hansen via pbs Sent: Friday, March 04, 2022 9:10 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: R Hansen Subject: [pbs] New Bulb Exchange Director Hello, everyone, The Pacific Bulb Society Board of Directors is delighted to announce the appointment of Bridget Wosczyna (pronounced Wah zeen a) to the position of Bulb Exchange Director for the US. Bridget is a bulb nut with a special love for South American bulbs and is excited to be contributing as a volunteer to PBS. She says she has been a "lurker" on our discussion group for quite some time. Bridget is in southeastern Pennsylvania on several acres, busy planting a new garden but with time to contribute. We welcome her to our much beloved exchanges! Bridget has an email address specifically for the bulb exchange and when she announces the spring exchange will give all the information needed. Considering the wild winter we've had in various parts of the US, I can imagine we're all looking forward to spring, whenever it may come, and to the next exchange. Many thanks for your patience! Regards, Robin Hansen PBS President _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 05 Mar 2022 15:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs Subject: New Bulb Exchange Director Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 18:14:24 -0500 Thanks Fred. I’m very excited to help! Bridget > On Mar 5, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Fred via pbs wrote: > > Thank you so much Bridget, sending lots of hugs and thanks from Cambridge, MA 😍😍😍 > > Warm Regards, > Fred Biasella > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of R Hansen via pbs > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2022 9:10 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: R Hansen > Subject: [pbs] New Bulb Exchange Director > > Hello, everyone, > > > > The Pacific Bulb Society Board of Directors is delighted to announce the appointment of Bridget Wosczyna (pronounced Wah zeen a) to the position of Bulb Exchange Director for the US. Bridget is a bulb nut with a special love for South American bulbs and is excited to be contributing as a volunteer to PBS. She says she has been a "lurker" on our discussion group for quite some time. Bridget is in southeastern Pennsylvania on several acres, busy planting a new garden but with time to contribute. We welcome her to our much beloved exchanges! > > > > Bridget has an email address specifically for the bulb exchange and when she announces the spring exchange will give all the information needed. > Considering the wild winter we've had in various parts of the US, I can imagine we're all looking forward to spring, whenever it may come, and to the next exchange. > > > > Many thanks for your patience! > > > > Regards, > > > > Robin Hansen > > PBS President > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 06 Mar 2022 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <001801d8317e$42ac0640$c80412c0$@hansennursery.com> From: R Hansen via pbs Subject: For your information on the PBS Forum Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2022 09:18:55 -0800 I was reminded today that there are concerns on losing access to the archives and wiki on our PBS website when we transition to a forum (coming soon). Please remember that archives and wiki are NOT going away. They will be there forever, accessible, searchable and a continuing education. One provision that the forum will provide: a history of, as an example, forum discussions on a particular topic like crocus (it could be any bulb) that goes back years. Our webmaster and cohorts are using an off the shelf software for the forum - the same one the Scottish Rock Garden Club uses - and it will be packed with lots of help topics in the menus. Plus, and this is very important if you're feeling uncomfortable or hesitant about using the forum, names and links of PBS members who are knowledgeable and can help you navigate the forum. We'll give you ample warning of the transition, but think that in the long run, given the growing size of PBS, that the forum will make it easier to post photos, the ability to focus on topics of interest to you, and an easier way to avoid all those emails that are not of interest to you. Two items also of importance: announcements of bulb and seed exchanges will come to you as emails and also on the forum to make sure you won't miss out on our exchanges. Another item that's very popular on email, "what's blooming now" will continue as a separate topic on the forum, so if that's all you want to look at, you can. I know some of you have connectivity issues. We're hoping that since the forum resides on the web this will ease the pain of trying to get emails. Unfortunately, many areas of the US have very sub-standard access to the internet, although that situation is steadily improving. Do not hesitate to contact me, Arnold Trachtenberg or M. Gastil Buhl (Gastil) if you have further questions or pose the concern on email. This has been a slow roll-out process because we want to be as sure as we can that it works for all of us. Any technical concerns we cannot answer will be forwarded to David Pilling and his compadres. Many thanks for your patience! Regards, Robin Hansen President, PBS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 06 Mar 2022 10:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <3910BDD4-900A-4250-976B-D2E050B0316F@comcast.net> From: Rimmer de Vries via pbs Subject: Lachenalia stayneri Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2022 11:41:44 -0600 I received this plant as Lachenalia stayneri Grown from Silverhill seeds. The wiki photos of Lachenalia stayneri are not very clear. Does anyone know if this is indeed Lachenalia stayneri ? Thank you Rimmer in Warm windy Kentucky _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 06 Mar 2022 11:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <1ABB557C-E84E-437E-BB47-01B8E4AD0CD2@mac.com> From: VIJAY CHANDHOK via pbs Subject: Lachenalia stayneri Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:27:11 -0500 No photo? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Rimmer de Vries via pbs wrote: > > I received this plant as Lachenalia stayneri > Grown from Silverhill seeds. The wiki photos of Lachenalia stayneri are not very clear. Does anyone know if this is indeed Lachenalia stayneri ? > > Thank you > Rimmer > in Warm windy Kentucky > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 06 Mar 2022 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <35740C7B-E20F-4BBC-85DE-6DB5AE14616D@comcast.net> From: Rimmer de Vries via pbs Subject: Lachenalia stayneri Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:19:36 -0600 There were 3 photos attached, but as always, they were stripped off the message. Rimmer > On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:27 PM, VIJAY CHANDHOK via pbs wrote: > > No photo? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:42 PM, Rimmer de Vries via pbs wrote: >> >> I received this plant as Lachenalia stayneri >> Grown from Silverhill seeds. The wiki photos of Lachenalia stayneri are not very clear. Does anyone know if this is indeed Lachenalia stayneri ? >> >> Thank you >> Rimmer >> in Warm windy Kentucky >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 06 Mar 2022 16:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <7f04ccd6-8689-17dc-7719-c3abc00c47b8@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling via pbs Subject: Lachenalia stayneri Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 00:15:42 +0000 Hi, The photos for the following post are available from the scrubbed links at the end. On 06/03/2022 17:41, Rimmer de Vries via pbs wrote: > I received this plant as Lachenalia stayneri > Grown from Silverhill seeds. The wiki photos of Lachenalia stayneri are not very clear. Does anyone know if this is indeed Lachenalia stayneri ? > > Thank you > Rimmer > in Warm windy Kentucky -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image2.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 114418 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 106749 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Warm growing conditions induce dormancy in winter growing bulbs. Dry growing conditions do the same. The combination of both may be fatal to young seedlings as their small bulbs may not be big enough to survive the first dormancy especially if it was induced prematurely by these factors. How to overcome this? Depending were you live, it is important to keep the growing temperature frost free but as cool as possible for as long as possible into spring. If you germinate your seed in a greenhouse it is a good idea to move the seedling pots from the greenhouse to a half shaded sheltered spot in the garden. Always give artificial shade for a few days after the move. Greenhouses tend to warm up considerably from March onwards (northern hemisphere). If this is not possible because of frosty nights it is important to ventilate the greenhouse as efficiently as possible and to wet the floor during sunny days in order to increase humidity. Seedling pots must NEVER dry out. Once growth would be stopped by a dry interval it will not resume and the resulting bulbs will remain small and weak. Even outside in the garden it may be useful to apply artificial shading by using horticultural fleece or shade cloth to cover the seedlings. I put a wire mesh caging over them to stop birds and other creatures digging in the pots. The cage will prevent the shade cloth lying directly on the plants. it all depends on the climate you live in. A place where the sun is welcome in winter may become to warm in spring so it may be necessary to move the pots into a shaded or half shaded place. Shade of buildings with otherwise bright light is a good option. Fertilizing must not be neglected: It is better to fertilize more often but with lower concentration. Especially at the end of the growing season I have found fertilizer very beneficial. For valuable small seedlings the effort of moving the pots into more favourable growing conditions and applying artificial shade pays off, this way most bulbs can be kept green well into May, some even longer. Follow what the plants tell you: as long as at least some leaves are still green, keep watering but once all foliage has died down naturally stop watering. Otherwise rot may set in. Young seedling bulbs should be left in their pots in the substrate during dormancy. These pots should not bake in the sun but kept in a shady cooler place in summer.  A gentle hand watering with a fine rose every 4 weeks or so will prevent them from becoming too dry. Observe the pots for signs of new growth in autumn. Again, this depends on where you live. Warm weather delays sprouting and moist cool weather triggers it. Last but not least my recommendation for sowing winter growing bulbs is: not to sow after the end of December. The best results are obtained by sowing in October. The seed of most bulbous plants can be stored in the fridge until optimum sowing time. Bye for now Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 07 Mar 2022 21:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: Lachenalia ID ? Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2022 20:31:11 -0800 Hello All, Is this Lachenalia Zeyheri? If not can you help me identify? Hope all had a great weekend. Mike San Diego A couple rounds of rain this past weekend…. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Usually I would move pots from the stands to the ground and cover them during the coldest periods (here, temperatures below about 25 F), but I didn't during the recent few days colder than that and it appears to have done no harm. Some of the seedlings lost turgor but revived once the temperature rose. One such pot has about 20 Tulipa regelii seedlings in it, so that was a considerable relief. I keep a few valuable and marginally hardy plants in an unheated garage under lights during winter, but they will come outdoors in the next few weeks. My "greenhouse" is unheated and, with open sides, is essentially a very large cold frame. One odd thing about keeping the seedlings growing is that some Narcissus species fail to go dormant. This seems not to harm their development; they grow more leaves in the second season and flower in the third. I don't withhold water from anything that is actively growing. Seed pots that haven't germinated are allowed to go dry (though in shade) in summer. I think keeping the ungerminated seeds moist (as they would not be in nature) might make them rot. I keep most seed pots for 3 years, and then discard the soil among the plunged pots in the bulb house, resulting in a few mystery plants that eventually can, I hope, be identified. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA On 3/7/2022 4:37 PM, Uli via pbs wrote: > > Depending were you live, it is important to keep the growing > temperature frost free but as cool as possible for as long as possible > into spring. If you germinate your seed in a greenhouse it is a good > idea to move the seedling pots from the greenhouse to a half shaded > sheltered spot in the garden. Always give artificial shade for a few > days after the move. Greenhouses tend to warm up considerably from > March onwards (northern hemisphere). If this is not possible because > of frosty nights it is important to ventilate the greenhouse as > efficiently as possible and to wet the floor during sunny days in > order to increase humidity. Seedling pots must NEVER dry out. Once > growth would be stopped by a dry interval it will not resume and the > resulting bulbs will remain small and weak. > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Pia Binha via pbs Subject: Albuca pollination Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:40:33 -0500 my À. spiralis is about to bloom. is there anything that can help it set seed? ======= tsuh yang _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: James Shao via pbs Subject: Albuca pollination Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 11:42:12 -0800 I believe microwaving pollen was discussed on the PBS board for this species many years ago as being successful. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 11:40 AM Pia Binha via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > my À. spiralis is about to bloom. is there anything that can help it set > seed? > > ======= > tsuh yang > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <918834727.352416.1646769385448@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: Albuca pollination Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 19:56:25 +0000 (UTC) My A. spiralis set three pods without any intervention from me.  The seeds look good and I have some floating on water to see if they are viable.  Meanwhile, my specimen of A. spiralis 'Frizzle Sizzle' is blooming and so far no pods are developing.  The flowers are probably twice the size of the wild form, and it's possible that whatever pollinated the first (fungus gnats?) is too small to pollinate the other.  I do note that in the patent for Frizzle Sizzle, the cultivar is said to be a seedling from the selfing of another one, so that would imply that the species is self-fertile. Bob   Zone 7 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 08 Mar 2022 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Nan Sterman via pbs Subject: Albuca pollination Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2022 14:22:19 -0800 What is the point of microwaving other than to induce genetic variation? Sent from my eye eye phone. All typos are the captain’s fault. > On Mar 8, 2022, at 11:42 AM, James Shao via pbs wrote: > > I believe microwaving pollen was discussed on the PBS board for this > species many years ago as being successful. > >> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022, 11:40 AM Pia Binha via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> my À. spiralis is about to bloom. is there anything that can help it set >> seed? >> >> ======= >> tsuh yang >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 09 Mar 2022 03:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <21cd21bc.2800.17f6e2e7439.Webtop.87@btinternet.com> From: Brian Whyer via pbs Subject: Albuca pollination Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 10:16:51 +0000 (GMT) It supposedly allows you to "self" a single clone of a plant that will not do so naturally. I have several pots of a collected form of Iris sari, but never get any seed. Anyone near me got another Iris sari? Please !!!!!!!! Brian Whyer. SE UK ------ Original Message ------ From: "Nan Sterman via pbs" To: "Pacific Bulb Society" Cc: "Nan Sterman" Sent: Tuesday, 8 Mar, 22 At 22:22 Subject: Re: [pbs] Albuca pollination What is the point of microwaving other than to induce genetic variation? _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 09 Mar 2022 09:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <13C7FECC-2931-4EE3-A935-FF517D91CACC@yahoo.com> From: Ottoline Clapham via pbs Subject: New Bulb Exchange Director Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 08:35:20 -0800 Wonderful news Brigette, thank you Regards Ottoline _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 09 Mar 2022 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <32243426.376028.1646868419820@mail.yahoo.com> From: Shoal Creek Succulents via pbs Subject: Greenhouse Floor Radiant Heat Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 23:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi- Anyone know of a greenhouse using floor radiant heat?We are considering it for our Zone 5 greenhouse, a medium sized GH.Hoping to talk to someone who has used it to seek their input. Thanks!! Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse  | | | | | | | | | | | Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse | | | | _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 09 Mar 2022 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <1596208769.366812.1646868543035@mail.yahoo.com> From: Shoal Creek Succulents via pbs Subject: Greenhouse Floor Radiant Heat Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 23:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 5:27 PM, Shoal Creek Succulents via pbs wrote: Hi- Anyone know of a greenhouse using floor radiant heat?We are considering it for our Zone 5 greenhouse, a medium sized GH.Hoping to talk to someone who has used it to seek their input. Thanks!! Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse    |  |  |  |  |    |   |   | |  |  |  Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse   |  |   |   |   _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 09 Mar 2022 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <1807999815.376314.1646868571875@mail.yahoo.com> From: Shoal Creek Succulents via pbs Subject: Greenhouse Floor Radiant Heat Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 23:29:31 +0000 (UTC) Not sure why the link did not work. Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse  | | | | | | | | | | | Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse | | | | On Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 5:28 PM, Shoal Creek Succulents wrote: Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 5:27 PM, Shoal Creek Succulents via pbs wrote: Hi- Anyone know of a greenhouse using floor radiant heat?We are considering it for our Zone 5 greenhouse, a medium sized GH.Hoping to talk to someone who has used it to seek their input. Thanks!! Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse    |  |  |  |  |    |   |   | |  |  |  Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse   |  |   |   |   _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 09 Mar 2022 16:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: <0AA76544-0F44-433D-810B-BD76F1B536D2@gmail.com> From: Linda Press Wulf via pbs Subject: When to divide Scilla natalensis bulbs? Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2022 16:13:57 -0800 I was delighted to find brimming pots of Scilla natalensis ‘Dwarf’ [sic] in full bloom at Berkeley Horticultural Nursery this week (see photos). I would like to prise apart these squill bulbs and try them in different beds. 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Next to the furnace is a 50 gallon tank that stores hot water for domestic use  It’s a very efficient system and I’ve see a drop in my overall energy bill since I switched away from the traditional water heater  Another development since I did mine is the improved on demand heaters like Navien and Rinai  If you would like more details let me know.  Arnold Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 6:26 PM, Shoal Creek Succulents via pbs wrote: Hi- Anyone know of a greenhouse using floor radiant heat?We are considering it for our Zone 5 greenhouse, a medium sized GH.Hoping to talk to someone who has used it to seek their input. Thanks!! Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse    |  |  |  |  |    |   |   | |  |  |  Five Reasons Radiant Heating Should be in Your Greenhouse   |  |   |   |   _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 10 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <001101d83494$0553c5d0$0ffb5170$@hansennursery.com> From: R Hansen via pbs Subject: Email to Uli Urban not going through Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 07:32:14 -0800 I'm posting this to the List because my repeated attempts to contact Uli are not working at the address I've always used for him. Does anyone know if there is a problem in Portugal or Europe generally or something else? The address I'm using is johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de Thank you, Robin Hansen PBS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 10 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Randall P. Linke via pbs" Subject: Email to Uli Urban not going through Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 16:48:25 +0100 I just had an email from him this morning and responded, and this is the address, without any apparent issue. But I am in Spain, so perhaps there is some issue with communication from outside Europe. Randy Granada, Spain On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:32 PM R Hansen via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I'm posting this to the List because my repeated attempts to contact Uli > are > not working at the address I've always used for him. Does anyone know if > there is a problem in Portugal or Europe generally or something else? > > > > The address I'm using is johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de > > > > Thank you, > > > > Robin Hansen > > PBS > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > -- _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <097672d1-5110-6454-9282-8bab85610a43@code-garak.de> From: Garak via pbs Subject: EX04_1 open for orders Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:18:28 +0100 Dear Members in the EU. The next EU bulb and seed exchange is now open for orders, as usual we have a time window over the weekend, ordering phase closes on Monday the 14th at 24:00h Central European Time. The closure will be announced in this list. Orders received within this period will be dealt with at random, so that everybody will have the same chance to get the rare and sought after items. This is the first exchange for this spring, donations can still be maid for a second distribution phase around the mid of April. Please remember, that only fully paid members can order from this exchange. If you are not sure about your membership status or if you are tempted to join now, please get in touch with our treasurer Arnold Trachtenberg (arnold140@verizon.net). You do not need to be a donor to be entitled to order from this list but maybe you will become a donor in the future?  The number of items you can order is not limited, you are allocated one portion of each ordered item but please refrain from asking "one of each" from this extensive list. As Brexit is now real and all grace periods are over, we sadly can not accept any orders from the UK. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS LIST WHEN ORDERING BUT SEND A NEW EMAIL TO MARTIN BOHNET IN GERMANY: ( garak@code-garak.de) He is the director of the EU Seed and Bulb Exchange. Your order cannot be dealt with if you send it to the list by using the reply button. And please do not forget to let Martin have your postal address. Pricing and Payment Seeds are 2 US$ per portion, bulbs cost 3 US$. Very big or very rare bulbs may be more expensive. Left over seed from previous exchanges (numbers EX03_??? and EX02_??? ) are offered at a reduced price of 1US$. Postage is added to your order at cost. Please wait with your payment until you received your order, it will contain a payment slip with the sum due in US-Dollars. If you are a donor your credit will be deducted. Payment for the EU BX/SX can only be made in US Dollars and only through PayPal. Please go to the bottom of the Bulb Exchange page and fill in the payment form. https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/bx.html It is a tremendous help for our treasurer if you do not forget to put in the BX-Number and your name. Please wait with payment until your order is checked for availability after the ordering phase. Please do not hesitate to get in touch with Uli if you have questions ( johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de) This is an announcement for the EU BX only, the US based BX continues unchanged. Happy browsing! Here are the items available in EX04: From Pavel Andel (all seeds) EX04_001 Begonia dregei EX04_002 Drimia uniflora DMC 13646 W. of Ladismith EX04_003 Othonna triplinervia EX04_004 Othonna triplinervia x Othonna herrei EX04_005 Oxalis pachyrhiza Santa Rosa de Tastil, Arg EX04_006 Zephyranthes grandiflora From Martin Bohnet Bulbs: EX04_007 Bletilla ochracea EX04_008 Cautleya spicata ‚Crûg‘s canary‘ EX04_009 Dioscorea polystachia (leaf bulbils) Seed: EX04_010 Agave bulliana EX04_011 Arisaema consanguineum EX04_012 Asclepias tuberosa EX04_013 Bobartia orientalis EX04_014 Bomarea edulis EX04_015 Diplarrhena latifolia EX04_016 Tigridia pavonia orange seed parent from Peter Dinges: Bulbs: EX04_017 Pinellia tripartita' Seeds: EX04_018 Agapanthus inapertus pendulus EX04_019 Albuca humilis EX04_020 Allium cyaneum, originally received as A. beesianum EX04_021 Begonia grandis ssp. sinensis (Bulbills) EX04_022 Dietes iridioides EX04_023 Dipcadi serotinum EX04_024 Eucomis autumnalis EX04_025 Freesia laxa, salmon with red dots EX04_026 Lophospermum erubescens 'Alba' EX04_027 Maurandya wislizeni 'Red Dragon' EX04_028 Ornithogalum candicans (Syn. Galtonia c.) From Hans Joschko (all seeds): EX04_029 Atropa belladonna EX04_030 Ceratotheca triloba EX04_031 Dioscorea communis EX04_032 Ennealophus fimbriatus EX04_033 Euonymus myrianthus EX04_034 Impatiens namchabarwensis EX04_035 Ipomoea (Quamoclit) lobata EX04_036 Ipomoea purpurea EX04_037 Ipomoea tricolor 'Pearly  Gates' EX04_038 Ipomoea 'vulkan' EX04_039 Ipomoea x sloteri EX04_040 Leonurus cardica EX04_041 Solanum nigrum EX04_042 Solanum pyracanthum EX04_043 Staphylea trifolia EX04_044 Stylophorum lasiocarpum EX04_045 Tulbaghia violacea var macmasterii From Uli Urban Bulbs: EX04_046 Albuca pulchra EX04_047 X Achimenantha Ohio’s Never say Never EX04_048 X Achimenantha Ohio’s Punkin EX04_049 Achimenes E. Nelson EX04_050 Achimenes grandiflora EX04_051 Achimenes heterophylla EX04_052 Achimenes pedunculata EX04_053 Achimenes pulcherrima EX04_054 Curcuma alismatifolia EX04_055 Dioscorea discolor EX04_056 Eucodonia Cecilia EX04_057 Eucodonia Maike EX04_058 Eucodonia spec. EX04_059 Lilium speciosum Rubrum ‚Uchida‘ EX04_060 Neomarica spec (nov?) tall blue and beige EX04_061 Nymphaea Hybrid Doris Holt, leaf bulbs EX04_062 Sauromatum horsfieldii EX04_063 Seemannia nematanthodes EX04_064 Seemannia purpurascens EX04_065 X Smithicodonia Heartlands Joy EX04_066 X Smithicodonia Rfs Grandiosa EX04_067 Spathantheum orbignyanum Seeds: EX04_068 Albuca pulchra EX04_069 Aponogeton distachyus EX04_070 Arisaema consanguineum EX04_071 Phalocallis coelestis syn. Cypella gigantea EX04_072 Dahlia excelsa, ID not 100% definite EX04_073 Dahlia rosea, white EX04_074 Datura wrightii EX04_075 Lilium White Triumphator EX04_076 Milla magnifica EX04_077 Tradescantia boliviana EX04_078 Zantedeschia albomaculata EX04_079 Zantedeschia jucunda from Aart vanVororst (all seeds) EX04_080 Clivia gardenii Everton  strain EX04_081 Clivia robusta (Maxima x Breanan Farm) From Jan-Willem Vos(all seeds) EX04_082 Aristea ecklonii EX04_083 Arthropodium cirratum EX04_084 Beschorneria septentrionalis EX04_085 Chlorophytum bowkeri EX04_086 Habranthus brachyandrus EX04_087 Laxmannia gracilis EX04_088 Laxmannia squarrosa EX04_089 Lomandra leucocephala ssp robusta EX04_090 Lomandra spicata EX04_091 Moraea brittenieae EX04_092 Othrosanthus polystachyus EX04_093 Patersonia lanata EX04_094 Phalocallis coelestis EX04_095 Sisyrinchium californicum EX04_096 Tulbaghia violacea Leftovers from the 2021 fall exchanges (all seeds): EX03_001 Allium cernuum EX03_002 Allium flavum EX03_004 Camassia leichtlinii cream EX03_007 Hemerocallis hybrid, diploid, 1st/2nd gen from „Frans Hals“ EX03_008 Hesperantha cuculata EX03_010 Paradisea lusitanica EX03_022 Albuca aurea EX03_023 Albuca setosa EX03_025 Habranthus graciliflora EX03_026 Habranthus robustus EX03_030 Romulea rosea var australis EX03_046 Alium giganteum EX03_048 Sisyrinchium montanum EX03_054 Arisaema flavum EX03_057 Pelargonium gibbosum EX03_085 Albuca albucoides EX03_088 Albuca c.f flaccida EX03_091 Anemone palmata EX03_092 Freesia alba EX03_093 Freesia caryophyllacea EX03_095 Gladiolus italicus EX03_097 Gladiolus splendens EX03_099 Hesperantha bachmannii EX03_100 Hippeastrum Sonatini 'Pink Rascal' X 'Amputo' EX03_101 Hyacinthoides flacoultiana EX03_102 Ipheion 'Alberto Castillo' EX03_103 Iris xiphium blue, ex cultivated plants EX03_104 Iris xiphium var lusitanica, bright yellow, ex cultivated plants EX03_108 Lachenalia mediana EX03_109 Lachenalia mutabilis EX03_110 Lachenalia namaquensis EX03_111 Lachenalia pauciflora EX03_112 Lachenalia quadricolor EX03_113 Lachenalia salteri, selected good forms EX03_114 Lachenalia ventricusa EX03_115 Moraea ochroleuca EX03_116 Moraea polystachya EX03_117 Moraea sisyrinchium EX03_118 Narcissus bulbocodium EX03_120 Ornithogalum dubium EX03_121 Scilla cilicica EX03_122 Scilla hyacinthoides EX03_123 Scilla peruviana 'Grand Bleu' particularly dark blue EX03_125 Sparaxis elegans EX03_126 Triteleia ixioides EX03_127 Tropaeolum brachyceras EX03_286 Iris mesopotamica EX03_288 Iris versicolor EX03_289 Pancatium maritinum EX03_290 Cardiocrinum giganteum EX03_291 Codonopsis pilosula EX03_295 Lilium sargentieae EX03_296 Agapanthus cultivar blue & white 45cm decidous EX03_297 Agapanthus cultivar 45cm decidous EX03_298 Agapanthus ex Kirstenbosch blue 90 cm decidous EX03_299 Allium sikkimense EX03_300 Arum creticum EX03_301 Arum italicum subsp italicum ‚Marmoratum‘ EX03_302 Bellevalia paradoxa EX03_303 Dierama mixed hybrids EX03_304 Freesia laxa EX03_305 Freesia laxa red form EX03_306 Iris foetedissima EX03_307 Ixia viridiflora EX03_308 Libertia spec. EX03_309 Muscari armenaicum type A EX03_310 Muscari armenaicum type B EX03_311 Muscai aucheri EX03_312 Muscai aucheri ex ocean magic EX03_313 Muscari latifolium EX03_314 Muscari racemosa EX03_315 Romulea bulbocodium EX03_317 Watsonia sp red ex Kirstenbosch (evergreen) EX03_324 Lilum pumilum EX03_325 Allium aff. oporinanthum EX03_327 Ethesia (Syn Ornithogalum) xanthochlora EX03_330 Narcissus confusus EX03_331 Pelargonium mollicomum EX03_332 Pelargonium spec. small leaves, winter grower EX03_345 Acis autumnalis EX03_347 Drimia maritima common form leftovers from the 2021 spring exchanges (all seeds): EX02_005 Hosta ex ‚Empress Wu‘, open polinated EX02_008 Agapanthus cultivar 45cm, deciduous EX02_009 Alstroemeria psittacina EX02_010 Dactylicapnos scandens EX02_011 Freesia laxa red form EX02_012 Hesperantha baurii EX02_013 Iris ensata (blue) EX02_014 Iris foetidissima EX02_015 Scilla peruviana EX02_016 Watsonia sp. red ex Kirstenbosch (labeled meriana?) EX02_017 Albuca abyssinica Syn. A. bainesii EX02_018 Albuca humilis ex Lesotho EX02_019 Albuca tenuifolia Syn. A. shawii EX02_023 Allium flavum EX02_029 Dietes iridioides EX02_037 Allium tuberosum EX02_040 Crocosmia x crocosmiiflora EX02_043 Habranthus tubispathus EX02_047 Lilium henryi EX02_050 Drimia purpurascens (syn. undulata) ex Bellús EX02_051 Iris xiphium (syn. Xiphion vulgare) ex Albufera EX02_058 Narcissus confusus EX02_075 Allium giganteum EX02_079 Iris domestica EX02_080 Iris setosa EX02_081 Iris sibirica EX02_084 Sisyrinchium montanum EX02_087 Chasmanthe bicolor EX02_088 Eryngium „Miss Wilmot‘s Ghost“ EX02_089 Melanoselium decipiens EX02_090 Watsonia „Dart Sea Trout“ EX02_093 Ceropegia woodii EX02_094 Albucca spec. ex roscoff EX02_096 Lilium ex „White Triumphator“ EX02_098 Zantedeschia albomaculata Martin & Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Garak via pbs Subject: EX04_1 open for orders - some comments Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:58:20 +0100 Some additional comments from Uli and me: EX04_009, 010, 013 and 015 are excess items from a commercial source - their portions were h just to big to keep them all for myself. EX04_046 & 068 Albuca pulchra. In flower it looks like a green Eremurus, tall and upright. Seedlings will take several years to reach flowering size. A. pulchra is strictly summer growing and winter dormant and does not tolerate winter moisture. Otherwise easy in a sunny spot. Thank you, Monica Swartz for letting me have seed a few years ago. EX04_069 Aponogeton distachyus: a tuberous aquatic plant from seasonal pools in South Africa. It grows and germinates in cold (no ice)  or cool water, warm water induces dormancy. Has become invasive in some parts of the world, so do not allow it into natural water habitats. My plants are strictly pot grown and kept dry during dormancy in summer. I use it as an attractive scented winter flowering aquatic in a large tub on my terrace. In summer the same tub houses Nymphaea pygmaea 'Helvola'.  Will be summer growing in cool water. Seed is moist packed and needs immediate sowing in shallow /cold/ water with bright light. EX04_072 and 073 Dahlia excelsa and D. rosea. Both are Central American Tree Dahlias, not to be considered as summer growing garden Dahlias. They are winter flowering and grow very tall, susceptible to wind damage. They need frost free conditions to flower in mid winter. They form tubers but have no dry dormancy. Both can be pruned down to the ground after flowering but if left unpruned, especially D. excelsa becomes a tall, branched woody shrub. Seed germinates in cool conditions (do not use a heated propagator) , both plants grow naturally in moist cool to temperate tropical montane forests. I offered seed of D. excelsa last year under the name of D. imperialis which it is definitely not. The identity is not certain, though. EX04_076 Milla magnifica: Seed for the first time ever for me. A Mexican summer growing bulb, dry winter dormancy . White scented stars EX04_077 Tradescantia boliviana is not a trailer but a stiffly upright tuberous perennial. Strictly summer growing and absolutely dry winter dormancy. Needs ample water and low nitrogen fertilizer during summer and as much direct sun as ever possible, otherwise it will not remain upright. Lots of small pink flowers over a long season from morning until early afternoon, popular with insects. EX04_060 Neomarica: received as a new species, identity unknown to me. Tall plant, magnificent dark blue flowers with beige patterns in the centre. Needs to have a certain size to flower well but then spectacular. Forms plantlets on the spent flower stalks. EX04_061 Nymphaea 'Doris Holt' One of the best tropical Nymphaea Hybrids. Attractive leaves with red splashes and bright purplish red flowers with yellow centre, scented. Every leaf can form a new plant by producing a tiny leaf tuber, these viviparous waterlilies may become invasive in the right climate, so do not let them escape into natural water habitats. Treatment of the leaf tuber you get: Depending where you live: keep it in the fridge until light intensity and day length is good. Do not allow it to go dry in the meantime. Then start it in warm water (not below 20°C) in a small pot with loam or clay substrate (no organic matter) in very shallow water and give artificial light if there is no direct sun. The warmer the water is the more light it needs. The tiny tuber will soon wake up and produce roots and small leaves, submerged at first. Once the first floating leaves are formed fertilize with Osmocote. Best grown outdoors during summer with as much sun as possible, give a big pot and repeat fertilizing. Adult plants can grow to a diameter of about 1,5m and are best in shallow warm water (about 20cm above substrate). Adult plants form a tuber but I never managed to get a dormant tuber started again. I always found it easy to start from leaf tubers which form at the end of summer. Here in Portugal it does not go fully dormant. In Germany I have overwintered adult plants in a frost free greenhouse in a bucket of water after trimming off almost all the leaves, unheated and as bright as possible. I wrote a detailed article on tropical waterlilies in the Bulb Garden, Volume 16, issue 2, spring 2017. -- Martin (pronoun: he) ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 10 Mar 2022 15:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4BC1307B-183F-41CA-BECA-9D71F86B8E6C@t-online.de> From: Uli via pbs Subject: comments EU BX Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:38:34 +0000  Dear All, For those of you who want to order from my donation to the EU spring BX, here are some comments Albuca pulchra. In flower it looks like a green Eremurus, tall and upright. Seedlings will take several years to reach flowering size. A. pulchra is strictly summer growing and winter dormant and does not tolerate winter moisture. Otherwise easy in a sunny spot. Thank you, Monica Swartz for letting me have seed a few years ago. Aponogeton distachyus: a tuberous aquatic plant from seasonal pools in South Africa. It grows and germinates in cold (no ice) or cool water, warm water induces dormancy. Has become invasive in some parts of the world, so do not allow it into natural water habitats. My plants are strictly pot grown and kept dry during dormancy in summer. I use it as an attractive scented winter flowering aquatic in a large tub on my terrace. In summer the same tub houses Nymphaea pygmaea 'Helvola'. Will be summer growing in cool water. Seed is moist packed and needs immediate sowing in shallow cold water with bright light. Dioscorea discolor starts relatively late in spring and has a long growing season until mid winter. Best started with bottom heat. Vigorous climber with attractive foliage. Needs bright light to colour well. Totally dry winter dormancy. Dahlia excelsa and D. rosea. Both are Central American Tree Dahlias, not to be considered as summer growing garden Dahlias. They are winter flowering and grow very tall, susceptible to wind damage. They need frost free conditions to flower in mid winter. They form tubers but have no dry dormancy. Both can be pruned down to the ground after flowering but if left unpruned, especially D. excelsa becomes a tall, branched woody shrub. Seed germinates in cool conditions (do not use a heated propagator) , both plants grow naturally in moist cool to temperate tropical montane forests. I offered seed of D. excelsa last year under the name of D. imperialis which it is definitely not. The identity is not certain, though. Milla magnifica: Seed for the first time ever for me. A Mexican summer growing bulb, dry winter dormancy . White scented stars Tradescantia boliviana is not a trailer but a stiffly upright tuberous perennial. Strictly summer growing and absolutely dry winter dormancy. Needs ample water and low nitrogen fertilizer during summer and as much direct sun as ever possible, otherwise it will not remain upright. Lots of small pink flowers over a long season from morning until early afternoon, popular with insects. Neomarica: received as a new species, identity unknown to me. Tall plant, magnificent dark blue flowers with beige patterns in the centre. Needs to have a certain size to flower well but then spectacular. Forms plantlets on the spent flower stalks. Nymphaea 'Doris Holt' One of the best tropical Nymphaea Hybrids. Attractive leaves with red splashes and bright purplish red flowers with yellow centre, scented. Every leaf can form a new plant by producing a tiny leaf tuber, these viviparous waterlilies may become invasive in the right climate, so do not let them escape into natural water habitats. Treatment of the leaf tuber you get: Depending where you live: keep it in the fridge until light intensity and day length is good. Do not allow it to go dry in the meantime. Then start it in warm water (not below 20°C) in a small pot with loam or clay substrate (no organic matter) in very shallow water and give artificial light if there is no direct sun. The warmer the water is the more light it needs. The tiny tuber will soon wake up and produce roots and small leaves, submerged at first. Once the first floating leaves are formed fertilize with Osmocote. Best grown outdoors during summer with as much sun as possible, give a big pot and repeat fertilizing. Adult plants can grow to a diameter of about 1,5m and are best in shallow warm water (about 20cm above substrate). Adult plants form a tuber but I never managed to get a dormant tuber started again. I always found it easy to start from leaf tubers which form at the end of summer. Here in Portugal it does not go fully dormant. In Germany I have overwintered adult plants in a frost free greenhouse in a bucket of water after trimming off almost all the leaves, unheated and as bright as possible. I wrote a detailed article on tropical waterlilies in the Bulb Garden, Volume 16, issue 2, spring 2017. Happy growing! Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 11 Mar 2022 11:17:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary via pbs Subject: Fwd: PBS website contact:iridaceae family plant material Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 10:38:51 -0800 The following request came via the PBS website. As I recall, kashish Kamra is a graduate student working in Japan. If you can help, please write to him directly. Thanks, Jane McGary -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: PBS website contact:iridaceae family plant material Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 03:59:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Apache Reply-To: kashish kamra To: janemcgary@earthlink.net This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary. i need the samples of Iridaceae family for my research purpose - Watsonia sp Tritoniopsis sp -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email:website@pacificbulbsociety.org _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 11 Mar 2022 12:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: Joe Durando via pbs Subject: Lycoris culture Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 15:03:51 -0500 New member here. We are a small cut flower farm in north Florida (humid, subtropical). We have no trouble growing L. radiata and L. aurea (africana?). I struggle with other spp and hybrids of both winter and spring types. Do some Lycoris need a dose of vernalization between summer rest and growth? Or do they need a cooler root run in general than I can provide? Or is photoperiod an issue? Joe Durando _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 11 Mar 2022 15:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Tony Avent via pbs Subject: Lycoris culture Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 22:26:50 +0000 Hi Joe I'd suggest sticking with the fall-foliage types and avoid those whose foliage doesn't emerge until spring. You have the only two fall-foliage emerging species already, but the hybrids are many. Any L. x rosea (sprengeri x radiata), L. x albiflora (aurea x radiata), and L. x straminea (chinensis x radiata) should be fine there. Tony Avent Proprietor tony@plantdelights.com Juniper Level Botanic Garden and Plant Delights Nursery Ph 919.772.4794/fx 919.772.4752 9241 Sauls Road, Raleigh, North Carolina  27603  USA USDA Zone 7b/Winter 0-5 F/Summer 95-105F "Preserving, Studying, Propagating, and Sharing the World's Flora" Since 1988, Plant Delights Nursery is THE Source for unique, rare and native perennial plants. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and its contents are confidential. If you received this message in error, do not use or rely upon it. Instead, please inform the sender and then delete it. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: pbs On Behalf Of Joe Durando via pbs Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 3:04 PM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Cc: Joe Durando Subject: [pbs] Lycoris culture New member here. We are a small cut flower farm in north Florida (humid, subtropical). We have no trouble growing L. radiata and L. aurea (africana?). I struggle with other spp and hybrids of both winter and spring types. Do some Lycoris need a dose of vernalization between summer rest and growth? Or do they need a cooler root run in general than I can provide? Or is photoperiod an issue? Joe Durando _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.pacificbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7Ctony%40plantdelights.com%7Cf00c710ad1764ec8931e08da039a53bd%7C9654a44908e24fb087d5980f386f33e3%7C0%7C0%7C637826258632290207%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=vRn6jidS0Sbas8nMfc%2FEFMQxxk1zV0HeUeHQqZXIB6E%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 12 Mar 2022 01:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <641150145.769658.1647076638432@mail.yahoo.com> From: Vlad Hempel via pbs Subject: Pots for Hieronymiella? Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 09:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone, I was trying to find more information on cultivating this genera, but there is not much to find. Finally got some nice bulbs of Hieronymiella marginata and if I follow my instinct, I would plant them rather in deeper pots. They have long necks (about 12 cm/ 5 inches). A few years back, I was lucky enough to get some bulbils of Hieronymiella tarijensis. That person recommended me to grow them rather in wide pots. Which I did, they grew well and are much bigger now. I am puzzled. Shall I follow my instinct and plant both in deep pots? Would 40 cm/ 15 inches be deep enough? This is how I have planted my Rhodophiala and they grow well. Any advice is very much appreciated. Thank you, Vlad Hempel +4915777291232https://www.linkedin.com/in/vhempel _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 12 Mar 2022 04:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: <77C6A316-D2C8-4A5B-BB07-C16375691D8A@t-online.de> From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs Subject: Spring in the Algarve Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:40:44 +0000 Dear All, Some more pictures from my garden. Now is a very nice time of the year, new flowers almost every day, some for the first time after sowing. The first picture shows Lachenalia vanzyliae. It is nice but L. viridiflora is by far the greener flower and flowering as one of the first Lachenalia. L. vanzyliae is late blooming. The second picture is Sparaxis tricolor from Silverhill seed. It is different from the form growing in gardens locally, I prefer the Silverhill form, it is brighter and the zones of the different colors are better separated than with the garden form. The third picture shows picked flowers of the Silverhill form on the left and the garden form on the right. The next photo is Moraea tulbaghensis, flowering for the very first time from Silverhill seed. I am very fond of it. Then a picture of Babiana villosa. The colour is amazing in full sun. Flowering for the second season from Silverhill seed. The last picture shows a Freesia Hybrid. I am selecting for good clear colors, good scent and upright growth even in rainy weather. It is annoying that purchased corms never come true to the pictures on the packet. But I got some from a reliable source, they are still in bud. I am also raising seedlings from selected colors. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Diane Whitehead via pbs Subject: Leucocoryne from seed Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 09:24:11 -0800 The earliest has been ten years. > Carl Frederick wrote: > > Does anyone have an idea how long it takes to flower these from seed? After several years I have a gallon pot of lots of needle-like leaves but no flowers. Any cultural advice? Thanks! 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We generally use venetian blind sections and a soft lead pencil, which tends to last a very long time but the sun and weathering can still make it difficult to read over time. We generally take it out to full sun and by looking at different angles you may see a possible letter or two. This label was almost impossible to make out anything. I have tried taking images and working with photoshop and various filter effects to bring out the lettering, but that generally fails as well. Today I tried a different approach. I had obtained a tube of powdered graphite used to free up a sticking key lock. It acts as a Puffer dispenser to puff graphite into the lock. I puffed a very small amount of the graphite on the label and gently wiped my thumb over the label surface. The graphite stuck to the old lettering so that in full sun I was able to make out the original writing on the label. It was not crystal clear but was readable. Hope this may help others in a similar situation. Not sure on how it would work with faded markers and on other surfaces but may be worth a try.. All the best, Michael & Paul _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 12 Mar 2022 16:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Erin Grace via pbs Subject: Reading Faded labels Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 18:17:32 -0500 Thank you! I will try that. I have a few illegible labels on dwarf aloes that I was trying the same photo tricks with, to no avail. Erin Grace Thomasville, Georgia USA It was 83 degrees a few days ago, tonight's forecast is 24 and windy On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 6:04 PM Michael Homick via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Today while repotting we ran into the same dilemma of trying to read a > label that has faded in sunlight. We generally use venetian blind sections > and a soft lead pencil, which tends to last a very long time but the sun > and weathering can still make it difficult to read over time. We generally > take it out to full sun and by looking at different angles you may see a > possible letter or two. This label was almost impossible to make out > anything. > I have tried taking images and working with photoshop and various filter > effects to bring out the lettering, but that generally fails as well. > Today I tried a different approach. I had obtained a tube of powdered > graphite used to free up a sticking key lock. It acts as a Puffer dispenser > to puff graphite into the lock. I puffed a very small amount of the > graphite on the label and gently wiped my thumb over the label surface. The > graphite stuck to the old lettering so that in full sun I was able to make > out the original writing on the label. It was not crystal clear but was > readable. Hope this may help others in a similar situation. Not sure on how > it would work with faded markers and on other surfaces but may be worth a > try.. > All the best, Michael & Paul > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 12 Mar 2022 19:17:03 -0800 Message-Id: <1254688660.1911257.1647139966581@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: Spring in East Tennessee Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 02:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Temperatures have been in the upper 60s, excellent for dividing Sarracenias, getting potted lilies dug out from piles of straw, and watching the daffodils and other spring bulbs start to bloom. This morning we woke up to 5" of snow and they are predicting a possible low tonight of 10 degrees.  I'm not making this up.  The snow on the ground will provide a bit of protection, but the daffs will be history along with the flowering quince and everyone's fruit trees.  The spring peepers evidently got the memo and have temporarily fallen silent. Bob    Oak Ridge, TN -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have a few illegible labels on dwarf aloes > that I was trying the same photo tricks with, to no avail. > > Erin Grace > Thomasville, Georgia USA > It was 83 degrees a few days ago, tonight's forecast is 24 and windy > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 6:04 PM Michael Homick via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Today while repotting we ran into the same dilemma of trying to read a > > label that has faded in sunlight. We generally use venetian blind > sections > > and a soft lead pencil, which tends to last a very long time but the sun > > and weathering can still make it difficult to read over time. We > generally > > take it out to full sun and by looking at different angles you may see a > > possible letter or two. This label was almost impossible to make out > > anything. > > I have tried taking images and working with photoshop and various > filter > > effects to bring out the lettering, but that generally fails as well. > > Today I tried a different approach. I had obtained a tube of powdered > > graphite used to free up a sticking key lock. It acts as a Puffer > dispenser > > to puff graphite into the lock. I puffed a very small amount of the > > graphite on the label and gently wiped my thumb over the label surface. > The > > graphite stuck to the old lettering so that in full sun I was able to > make > > out the original writing on the label. It was not crystal clear but was > > readable. Hope this may help others in a similar situation. Not sure on > how > > it would work with faded markers and on other surfaces but may be worth a > > try.. > > All the best, Michael & Paul > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 12 Mar 2022 20:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Laura Grant via pbs Subject: Reading Faded labels Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 22:32:36 -0500 Thank you Michael for sharing this with the group. Laura Niagara, Canada On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 6:04 PM Michael Homick via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Today while repotting we ran into the same dilemma of trying to read a > label that has faded in sunlight. We generally use venetian blind sections > and a soft lead pencil, which tends to last a very long time but the sun > and weathering can still make it difficult to read over time. We generally > take it out to full sun and by looking at different angles you may see a > possible letter or two. This label was almost impossible to make out > anything. > I have tried taking images and working with photoshop and various filter > effects to bring out the lettering, but that generally fails as well. > Today I tried a different approach. I had obtained a tube of powdered > graphite used to free up a sticking key lock. It acts as a Puffer dispenser > to puff graphite into the lock. I puffed a very small amount of the > graphite on the label and gently wiped my thumb over the label surface. The > graphite stuck to the old lettering so that in full sun I was able to make > out the original writing on the label. It was not crystal clear but was > readable. Hope this may help others in a similar situation. Not sure on how > it would work with faded markers and on other surfaces but may be worth a > try.. > All the best, Michael & Paul > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 12 Mar 2022 20:17:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: Laura Grant via pbs Subject: Spring in East Tennessee Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 22:43:23 -0500 Hi Bob, Your daffs will be OK, but I am not so sure about the fruit trees. What a shame. We also had wild swings of temperatures in the Niagara area this winter. Laura On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 9:53 PM Robert Lauf via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Temperatures have been in the upper 60s, excellent for dividing > Sarracenias, getting potted lilies dug out from piles of straw, and > watching the daffodils and other spring bulbs start to bloom. > This morning we woke up to 5" of snow and they are predicting a possible > low tonight of 10 degrees. I'm not making this up. The snow on the ground > will provide a bit of protection, but the daffs will be history along with > the flowering quince and everyone's fruit trees. The spring peepers > evidently got the memo and have temporarily fallen silent. > Bob Oak Ridge, TN > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_1663.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 5584519 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220313/32e6e275/attachment.jpe > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 07:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky via pbs Subject: Reading Faded labels Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:36:37 +0200 LA Arboretum used aluminum labels that were written with a stylus impression. No lettering to fade. As long as the label lasts. I used to use venetion blind strips too, but found they would rot out. Now I use the cover slat for electric wire channels (hope you understand that). I have never had an issue with brittle crumbling or solar decomposition. Also I use a 4B or 5B pencil. Very dark, just be careful not to smear. I often find the electric channel covers where someone is remodeling. That way it is free and recycled. The best of all worlds. Shmuel Silinsky Jerusalem, Israel Zone 9b On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 1:04 AM Michael Homick via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Today while repotting we ran into the same dilemma of trying to read a > label that has faded in sunlight. We generally use venetian blind sections > and a soft lead pencil, which tends to last a very long time but the sun > and weathering can still make it difficult to read over time. We generally > take it out to full sun and by looking at different angles you may see a > possible letter or two. This label was almost impossible to make out > anything. > I have tried taking images and working with photoshop and various filter > effects to bring out the lettering, but that generally fails as well. > Today I tried a different approach. I had obtained a tube of powdered > graphite used to free up a sticking key lock. It acts as a Puffer dispenser > to puff graphite into the lock. I puffed a very small amount of the > graphite on the label and gently wiped my thumb over the label surface. The > graphite stuck to the old lettering so that in full sun I was able to make > out the original writing on the label. It was not crystal clear but was > readable. Hope this may help others in a similar situation. Not sure on how > it would work with faded markers and on other surfaces but may be worth a > try.. > All the best, Michael & Paul > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <2e8ceb5f-8c30-141e-d178-aa2c0c5681e5@code-garak.de> From: Garak via pbs Subject: Pots for Hieronymiella? Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:48:21 +0100 Hi Vlad, My (currently  unavailable) source for Hieronymiella marginata stated it would be very unhappy in pots and would prefer open ground. I tried that, it flowered first year, got digged up, dry storage for winter, and came back next year without flowering. I ordered a second one, one time flowering (first bulb again leaves only), and then... well, as it happens in my heavy ground, i damaged one bulb on digging it um, didn't get through dry storage even though I thought I had cleaned it up thoroughly. If you find a less dangerous solution, even giving regular flowers, I'm all here for that. I hope a bad experience helps you more than no experience at all :-( Martin Am 12.03.2022 um 10:17 schrieb Vlad Hempel via pbs: > Hello everyone, > I was trying to find more information on cultivating this genera, but there is not much to find. > Finally got some nice bulbs of Hieronymiella marginata and if I follow my instinct, I would plant them rather in deeper pots. They have long necks (about 12 cm/ 5 inches). > A few years back, I was lucky enough to get some bulbils of Hieronymiella tarijensis. That person recommended me to grow them rather in wide pots. Which I did, they grew well and are much bigger now. > I am puzzled. Shall I follow my instinct and plant both in deep pots? Would 40 cm/ 15 inches be deep enough? This is how I have planted my Rhodophiala and they grow well. > Any advice is very much appreciated. > Thank you, > > Vlad Hempel > +4915777291232https://www.linkedin.com/in/vhempel > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: -- Martin (pronoun: he) ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Carl Frederick via pbs Subject: Leucocoryne from seed Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 07:59:36 -0700 Thanks Diana, and I’ve also heard that it could be less, maybe 6-7 years. All of those are too long for me! Some of these things really try a person’s patience. On the other hand one of the reasons I like growing plants is the delayed gratification and knowledge that some things in life require time no matter who you are. Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2022 09:24:11 -0800 From: Diane Whitehead To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Leucocoryne from seed Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The earliest has been ten years. > Carl Frederick wrote: > > Does anyone have an idea how long it takes to flower these from seed? After several years I have a gallon pot of lots of needle-like leaves but no flowers. Any cultural advice? Thanks! Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada cool mediterranean climate warm dry summers, mild wet winters 70 cm rain, sandy soil Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 11:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <8efb0622-2395-7836-f117-87bcd7537cc7@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary via pbs Subject: Leucocoryne from seed Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 10:57:56 -0700 I found Leucocoryne coquimbensis flowered about 5 years from seed, but it produces many offset bulbs where I have it. Unfortunately, this isn't the species everybody covets (the flowers are white to pale blue), but I should have enough to send to the BX next summer. It is hardier than its coastal range would suggest. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA On 3/13/2022 7:59 AM, Carl Frederick via pbs wrote: > Thanks Diana, and I’ve also heard that it could be less, maybe 6-7 years. All of those are too long for me! Some of these things really try a person’s patience. On the other hand one of the reasons I like growing plants is the delayed gratification and knowledge that some things in life require time no matter who you are. > > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <38452521.932118.1647199827897@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Spring in East Tennessee Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 19:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi Robert: Is it Chinese or Japanese Quince. I have each and they are just having the buds swell a bit. Arnold -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lauf via pbs To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Robert Lauf Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2022 9:52 pm Subject: [pbs] Spring in East Tennessee Temperatures have been in the upper 60s, excellent for dividing Sarracenias, getting potted lilies dug out from piles of straw, and watching the daffodils and other spring bulbs start to bloom. This morning we woke up to 5" of snow and they are predicting a possible low tonight of 10 degrees.  I'm not making this up.  The snow on the ground will provide a bit of protection, but the daffs will be history along with the flowering quince and everyone's fruit trees.  The spring peepers evidently got the memo and have temporarily fallen silent. Bob    Oak Ridge, TN -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_1663.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 5584519 bytes Desc: not available URL: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 14:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <407497124.2062211.1647204845755@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: Spring in East Tennessee Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 20:54:05 +0000 (UTC) No idea.  It is a huge overgrown bush with nasty spines and brilliant red-orange blooms.  It blooms early, easily fooled by warm weather in Feb, and then gets hit with a late freeze leaving black wads where the flowers had been.  It also occasionally bears some sort of fruit, which is normally consumed by some kind of fungus before it ever gets ripe. Reminds me of a "Manchurian bush apricot" some sleazy mail order nursery sold me about 40 years ago.  Every year I had to lop ten feet off the top of the so-called bush and it always bloomed early and got frosted so there was never any fruit.  If there ever had been, it probably would have gotten fungus like apricots and peaches tend to do here.  The problem of being fooled into blooming early is why fruit trees aren't a big cash crop around here.  I've wondered if one could buy bags of ice and dump around the roots every few days to keep the trees dormant later into spring, but the ice bill would far exceed the value of any fruit. The low last night turned out to be 18, so I'm sure my hasty replacement of straw over pots of things was ample protection.  The trays of Sarracenias will spend another night in the greenhouse as a precaution, but temps will be back in the high 60s later in the week. On Sunday, March 13, 2022, 03:30:37 PM EDT, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: Hi Robert: Is it Chinese or Japanese Quince. I have each and they are just having the buds swell a bit. Arnold _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 14:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <397825652.939328.1647205860328@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Spring in East Tennessee Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 21:11:00 +0000 (UTC) Bill Sound like a Japanese Quince. I had a neighbor from UK who made a marmalade out of the fruit. They have moved the various quinces around. Was: Chaenomeles japonica I believe they are all in Cydonia now. Arnold -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lauf via pbs To: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Cc: Robert Lauf Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [pbs] Spring in East Tennessee No idea.  It is a huge overgrown bush with nasty spines and brilliant red-orange blooms.  It blooms early, easily fooled by warm weather in Feb, and then gets hit with a late freeze leaving black wads where the flowers had been.  It also occasionally bears some sort of fruit, which is normally consumed by some kind of fungus before it ever gets ripe. Reminds me of a "Manchurian bush apricot" some sleazy mail order nursery sold me about 40 years ago.  Every year I had to lop ten feet off the top of the so-called bush and it always bloomed early and got frosted so there was never any fruit.  If there ever had been, it probably would have gotten fungus like apricots and peaches tend to do here.  The problem of being fooled into blooming early is why fruit trees aren't a big cash crop around here.  I've wondered if one could buy bags of ice and dump around the roots every few days to keep the trees dormant later into spring, but the ice bill would far exceed the value of any fruit. The low last night turned out to be 18, so I'm sure my hasty replacement of straw over pots of things was ample protection.  The trays of Sarracenias will spend another night in the greenhouse as a precaution, but temps will be back in the high 60s later in the week.     On Sunday, March 13, 2022, 03:30:37 PM EDT, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote:  Hi Robert: Is it Chinese or Japanese Quince. I have each and they are just having the buds swell a bit. Arnold   _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Judy Glattstein via pbs Subject: Spring in East Tennessee Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 17:24:34 -0400 But the Chinese quince, Pseudocydonia chinensis, is much better for making marmalade. Which gets its name from the Portuguese, marmelo = quince. I used to be allowed to forage for the fallen fruit of the Chinese quince at the Frelinghuysen Arboretum. Three or four were quite ample, they are large fruits. But now there is a new director and I am not allowed to forage. I even offered to teach a class for free in exchange. No interest. What a waste. Judy On 3/13/2022 5:11 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: > Bill > Sound like a Japanese Quince. > I had a neighbor from UK who made a marmalade out of the fruit. > They have moved the various quinces around. > Was: Chaenomeles japonica > I believe they are all in Cydonia now. > Arnold > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Lauf via pbs > To: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs > Cc: Robert Lauf > Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 4:54 pm > Subject: Re: [pbs] Spring in East Tennessee > > No idea.  It is a huge overgrown bush with nasty spines and brilliant red-orange blooms.  It blooms early, easily fooled by warm weather in Feb, and then gets hit with a late freeze leaving black wads where the flowers had been.  It also occasionally bears some sort of fruit, which is normally consumed by some kind of fungus before it ever gets ripe. > Reminds me of a "Manchurian bush apricot" some sleazy mail order nursery sold me about 40 years ago.  Every year I had to lop ten feet off the top of the so-called bush and it always bloomed early and got frosted so there was never any fruit.  If there ever had been, it probably would have gotten fungus like apricots and peaches tend to do here.  The problem of being fooled into blooming early is why fruit trees aren't a big cash crop around here.  I've wondered if one could buy bags of ice and dump around the roots every few days to keep the trees dormant later into spring, but the ice bill would far exceed the value of any fruit. > The low last night turned out to be 18, so I'm sure my hasty replacement of straw over pots of things was ample protection.  The trays of Sarracenias will spend another night in the greenhouse as a precaution, but temps will be back in the high 60s later in the week. >     On Sunday, March 13, 2022, 03:30:37 PM EDT, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: > > Hi Robert: > Is it Chinese or Japanese Quince. > I have each and they are just having the buds swell a bit. > Arnold > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 13 Mar 2022 15:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <839082370.938870.1647207159983@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Spring in East Tennessee Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2022 21:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Judy Should have told me.  I have a twenty five year old tree that had over 50 fruit on it this year. The Koreans cut it up and soak in honey for a medicinal tea. Next year I'll send some. I first saw it at Frelinghuysen and knew I needed to have one. Unfortunately it's a preferred target of the Oriental Fruit Moth  and the Spotted lantern fly. Use traps for determining when to spray and have this year used mating disruption coils wrapped around branches. The male can't find the female so not more than one generation. In these parts you can have 5-6 generations per season. I think all the Quinces have been placed in Cydonia by the taxonomists. Arnold -----Original Message----- From: Judy Glattstein via pbs To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Cc: Judy Glattstein Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 5:24 pm Subject: Re: [pbs] Spring in East Tennessee But the Chinese quince, Pseudocydonia chinensis, is much better for making marmalade. Which gets its name from the Portuguese, marmelo = quince. I used to be allowed to forage for the fallen fruit of the Chinese quince at the Frelinghuysen Arboretum. Three or four were quite ample, they are large fruits. But now there is a new director and I am not allowed to forage. I even offered to teach a class for free in exchange. No interest. What a waste. Judy On 3/13/2022 5:11 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: > Bill > Sound like a Japanese Quince. > I had a neighbor from UK who made a marmalade out of the fruit. > They have moved the various quinces around. > Was: Chaenomeles japonica > I believe they are all in Cydonia now. > Arnold > >  >  >  > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Lauf via pbs > To: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs > Cc: Robert Lauf > Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 4:54 pm > Subject: Re: [pbs] Spring in East Tennessee > >  No idea.  It is a huge overgrown bush with nasty spines and brilliant red-orange blooms.  It blooms early, easily fooled by warm weather in Feb, and then gets hit with a late freeze leaving black wads where the flowers had been.  It also occasionally bears some sort of fruit, which is normally consumed by some kind of fungus before it ever gets ripe. > Reminds me of a "Manchurian bush apricot" some sleazy mail order nursery sold me about 40 years ago.  Every year I had to lop ten feet off the top of the so-called bush and it always bloomed early and got frosted so there was never any fruit.  If there ever had been, it probably would have gotten fungus like apricots and peaches tend to do here.  The problem of being fooled into blooming early is why fruit trees aren't a big cash crop around here.  I've wondered if one could buy bags of ice and dump around the roots every few days to keep the trees dormant later into spring, but the ice bill would far exceed the value of any fruit. > The low last night turned out to be 18, so I'm sure my hasty replacement of straw over pots of things was ample protection.  The trays of Sarracenias will spend another night in the greenhouse as a precaution, but temps will be back in the high 60s later in the week. >      On Sunday, March 13, 2022, 03:30:37 PM EDT, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: >  >  Hi Robert: > Is it Chinese or Japanese Quince. > I have each and they are just having the buds swell a bit. > Arnold >  >  > >    > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The spring-growing Lycoris have some singed leaf tips but will be fine. The Dracunculus vulgaris foliage, 8-10" high already, was unaffected. I knew it would take into the low 20s, but that surprises me. Even some of the wily Arkansas native plants have been fooled by the weather this winter, which seems to be trying to raise the bar on our already high standard for crazy. I found a couple of things hiding in the greenhouse, two pictures attached. Lachenalia aloides v. vanzyliae, from Mary Sue in BX 151 back in 2008. Not a good flowering, it's gotten shaded and needs to be moved. Also, a pot labeled Ledebouria atrobrunnea, which got separated from the Ledebouria herd and I'd forgotten I had, has a bunch of inflorescences coming along. Foliage doesn't really look right, but they came from Charles Craib at Penroc, and he appears to have known that species well, so ... 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By Saturday evening it was all gone and it's been around 60 all day today. The daffodils looked droopy but recovered quickly, as always. The spring-growing Lycoris have some singed leaf tips but will be fine. The Dracunculus vulgaris foliage, 8-10" high already, was unaffected. I knew it would take into the low 20s, but that surprises me. Even some of the wily Arkansas native plants have been fooled by the weather this winter, which seems to be trying to raise the bar on our already high standard for crazy. I found a couple of things hiding in the greenhouse, two pictures attached. Lachenalia aloides v. vanzyliae, from Mary Sue in BX 151 back in 2008. Not a good flowering, it's gotten shaded and needs to be moved. Also, a pot labeled Ledebouria atrobrunnea, which got separated from the Ledebouria herd and I'd forgotten I had, has a bunch of inflorescences coming along. Foliage doesn't really look right, but they came from Charles Craib at Penroc, and he appears to have known that species well, so ... Steve On 3/12/2022 8:52 PM, Robert Lauf via pbs wrote: > Temperatures have been in the upper 60s, excellent for dividing Sarracenias, getting potted lilies dug out from piles of straw, and watching the daffodils and other spring bulbs start to bloom. > This morning we woke up to 5" of snow and they are predicting a possible low tonight of 10 degrees.  I'm not making this up.  The snow on the ground will provide a bit of protection, but the daffs will be history along with the flowering quince and everyone's fruit trees.  The spring peepers evidently got the memo and have temporarily fallen silent. > Bob    Oak Ridge, TN > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Vlad Hempel +4915777291232https://www.linkedin.com/in/vhempel On Sunday, March 13, 2022, 03:48:33 PM GMT+1, Garak via pbs wrote: Hi Vlad, My (currently  unavailable) source for Hieronymiella marginata stated it would be very unhappy in pots and would prefer open ground. I tried that, it flowered first year, got digged up, dry storage for winter, and came back next year without flowering. I ordered a second one, one time flowering (first bulb again leaves only), and then... well, as it happens in my heavy ground, i damaged one bulb on digging it um, didn't get through dry storage even though I thought I had cleaned it up thoroughly. If you find a less dangerous solution, even giving regular flowers, I'm all here for that. I hope a bad experience helps you more than no experience at all :-( Martin Am 12.03.2022 um 10:17 schrieb Vlad Hempel via pbs: > Hello everyone, > I was trying to find more information on cultivating this genera, but there is not much to find. > Finally got some nice bulbs of Hieronymiella marginata and if I follow my instinct, I would plant them rather in deeper pots. They have long necks (about 12 cm/ 5 inches). > A few years back, I was lucky enough to get some bulbils of Hieronymiella tarijensis. That person recommended me to grow them rather in wide pots. Which I did, they grew well and are much bigger now. > I am puzzled. Shall I follow my instinct and plant both in deep pots? Would 40 cm/ 15 inches be deep enough? This is how I have planted my Rhodophiala and they grow well. > Any advice is very much appreciated. > Thank you, > > Vlad Hempel > +4915777291232https://www.linkedin.com/in/vhempel > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: -- Martin (pronoun: he) ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 14 Mar 2022 11:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <1520f61c-4c93-24c6-c044-fe6dd10bbba1@gizmoworks.com> From: Steve Marak via pbs Subject: Ledebouria atrobrunnea (was Spring in East Tennessee) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:13:40 -0500 Arnold, There's a good short article by Charles Craib on L. atrobrunnea here: https://journals.co.za/doi/abs/10.10520/EJC113204 and you can download the 3-page PDF version (but may have to temporarily allow pop-ups for that site). ResearchGate allows downloading the first part of the Venter and Edwards paper revising Ledebouria in South Africa from 1998, which includes the publication of this species, and that has some good drawings showing the diagnostic features. I thought my foliage lacked the undulate lower leaf margins, but a closer look today confirms they're there, just not as pronounced as in most pictures. I'll get some better images later this week as more flowers open. Steve On 3/13/2022 8:18 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: > Steve > I have a Ledebouria which looks like yous. I have it as Ledebouria sp.  Huntsdrift. > > Arnold > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Marak via pbs > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Cc: Steve Marak > Sent: Sun, Mar 13, 2022 8:04 pm > Subject: Re: [pbs] Spring in East Tennessee > > ... > > I found a couple of things hiding in the greenhouse, two pictures > attached. Lachenalia aloides v. vanzyliae, from Mary Sue in BX 151 back > in 2008. Not a good flowering, it's gotten shaded and needs to be moved. > Also, a pot labeled Ledebouria atrobrunnea, which got separated from the > Ledebouria herd and I'd forgotten I had, has a bunch of inflorescences > coming along. Foliage doesn't really look right, but they came from > Charles Craib at Penroc, and he appears to have known that species well, > so ... > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 14 Mar 2022 12:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <7c9a378b-161f-1215-7c97-9ca35fefb05c@gizmoworks.com> From: Steve Marak via pbs Subject: Extra Ledebourias (& Cyrtanthus) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 13:40:22 -0500 Speaking of Ledebourias, I have some seedlings of a 2021 selfing of a Ledebouria zebrina from Charles Craib at Penroc in 2008, more than I need. I'd planned to send them to a BX, but they are breaking dormancy fast and I need to find them homes so I'm offering them directly. They are small, less than 1 cm diameter. The parent bulb is the largest Ledebouria I grow, about 10 cm (4 in) diameter, foliage span about 35-40 cm, and with nice markings. Most of the Ledebourias I have make offsets, but not this one. I also have some extra blooming size Ledebouria galpinii, from crossings among plants a friend in Hawaii sent me years ago. This is a much smaller species, mature bulbs ~2 cm across, and does offset moderately. Since I'm doing this, I also have some offsets of various sizes of Cyrtanthus montanus whose tag says "BX 156 2007, ex Shields ex Pettit" I could throw in. It offsets vigorously but is not weedy like C. brachyscyphus and doesn't set seed unless I hand pollinate it. As I told another PBSer recently, I've given it to a few people to atone for having previously given them C. brachyscyphus. Evergreen for me, and though it's supposed to be kept very dry in winter it's been extremely tolerant of winter water in a well drained mix in our greenhouse. If you'd like any/all, send me an email OFF-LIST at this address (samarak@gizmoworks.com). Please DO NOT click the REPLY button, even if you think it will reply only to me - it probably will go to the whole list. You could forward this to me, but it's easiest to just start a brand new email. Let me know what you'd like and where to send it. Steve _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <142863b2-0c55-37b2-e9a9-ae1aa8e7f740@t-online.de> From: Uli via pbs Subject: EU EX 04-1 closed Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 23:35:18 +0000 Dear Members living in the EU, The time window for orders from the EU EX 04 first section has closed tonight at 24:00 o'clock Central European Time. We will do a second round of the EX 04, scheduled for April, so please keep thinking of your fellow gardeners if you have surplus seed or bulbs. The time window for donations remains open until further notice. If you have placed an order, all orders which have been received until the deadline will be matched with the available material. If there is not enough to cover the demand, distribution will be at random. We think this is the fairest way of giving everybody the same chance. Please do not pay anything now, you will receive a payment slip with the items you will get, taking a bonus into account. This EX is aiming at summer growing bulbs and their seed, there will be another EX in autumn for winter and spring growing bulbs. If seed is ripening after this spring exchange, please keep thinking of your fellow gardening friends. Please do not hesitate to contact me in case of questions (johannes-ulrich-uran@t-online.de) Uli and Martin _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 14 Mar 2022 19:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <009f01d83811$10693740$313ba5c0$@hansennursery.com> From: R Hansen via pbs Subject: Link to article on Microwave Propagation Using Pollen Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 19:04:54 -0700 https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Microwave Uli Urban has written a very detailed, illustrated article on using a microwave to increase pollen viability in genera that do not set seed easily. This article will also be printed in the Bulb Garden, the journal of the PBS. There has been a lot of discussion about this technique and the PBS Wiki has quite a bit of information. I'm sure that those whose names are mentioned in connection with discussions and articles would be glad to answer questions if you need further information. My thanks also to David Pilling, our Webmaster, for making this available on the wiki. Best regards, Robin Hansen Editor, The Bulb Garden _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 14 Mar 2022 20:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Tim Harvey via pbs Subject: Link to article on Microwave Propagation Using Pollen Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 03:04:59 +0000 Surely this should be propagation using microwaved pollen? T _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 14 Mar 2022 23:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb via pbs Subject: mold on Caliphruria bulbs Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 01:18:39 -0400 I mistakenly let my pot of Caliphruria subdentata get too cold this winter. The foliage died back & didn't resprout so I dug the bulbs to see how they looked. They seem firm & healthy but most had some blue/green powdery mold on the bottom. I gave them a quick bleach dip & they're air drying now. Are there any other measures I ought to take for them? My Eucharis x grandiflora was not so lucky. All the bulbs succumbed to the cold. Thanks, Dennis in Cincinnati _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 14 Mar 2022 23:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <910190445.2586502.1647322176860@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: mold on Caliphruria bulbs Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 05:29:36 +0000 (UTC) If all the roots are gone, you might try putting on some Clonex gel and sticking them into a pot of relatively dry medium.  I saved a Hippeastrum bulb that way.  It sprouted new roots and went on to grow normally. Bob   Zone 7 On Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 01:18:57 AM EDT, Dennis Kramb via pbs wrote: I mistakenly let my pot of Caliphruria subdentata get too cold this winter.  The foliage died back & didn't resprout so I dug the bulbs to see how they looked.  They seem firm & healthy but most had some blue/green powdery mold on the bottom. I gave them a quick bleach dip & they're air drying now.  Are there any other measures I ought to take for them? My Eucharis x grandiflora was not so lucky.  All the bulbs succumbed to the cold. Thanks, Dennis in Cincinnati _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 15 Mar 2022 10:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <001c01d8388b$94165210$bc42f630$@hansennursery.com> From: R Hansen via pbs Subject: Link to article on Microwave Propagation Using Pollen Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 09:41:53 -0700 Hi, Tim, Uli asked David to fix this which he has done... "Surely this should be propagation using microwaved pollen" Hope this helps, Robin Hansen _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 15 Mar 2022 10:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Randall P. Linke via pbs" Subject: Link to article on Microwave Propagation Using Pollen Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:46:37 +0100 On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 3:05 AM R Hansen via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Microwave > > Uli Urban has written a very detailed, illustrated article on using a > microwave to increase pollen viability in genera that do not set seed > easily. > Thank you Uli and everyone else involved with making this available. Randy Granada, Spain _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 15 Mar 2022 13:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <738FD332-7691-4B27-B695-A66B72CC5F78@gmail.com> From: Christine Doud via pbs Subject: Lachenalia volunteers Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 12:32:45 -0700 Those are gorgeous. I’m looking at how you have them growing in with succulents. What a great idea. I’m in Santa Maria with a similar climate. Christine > On Mar 13, 2022, at 6:59 PM, Ken via pbs wrote: > > I think these are L.pustulata or L.pallida ... or possibly a hybrid between the two. Very prolific, almost weedy in pots ... but in the ground they send out a silent call to all slugs and snails in a mile radius to come eat them. > Ken Blackford San Diego USDA Zone 10 > > > > > > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20220313_152216.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2035556 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20220313_185421.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2419140 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 15 Mar 2022 13:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: The Silent Seed via pbs Subject: Variegated Neomarica Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:37:01 -0400 Many moons ago I grew these, and sold a bunch on E-Bay before I realized what I had; and no longer have this in my collection. I would love to ask if somebody may have a lead for me to add it back to my collection. Thank you. Jude -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Nan Sterman via pbs Subject: Variegated Neomarica Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 14:34:12 -0700 Please share what you learn. I would love to add that to my collection as well Sent from my eye eye phone. All typos are the captain’s fault. > On Mar 15, 2022, at 12:37 PM, The Silent Seed via pbs wrote: > > Many moons ago I grew these, and sold a bunch on E-Bay before I realized > what I had; and no longer have this in my collection. > I would love to ask if somebody may have a lead for me to add it back to my > collection. > Thank you. > Jude > > -- > The Silent Seed > Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. > thesilentseed.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 15 Mar 2022 15:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: The Silent Seed via pbs Subject: Variegated Neomarica Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 17:42:19 -0400 Fingers crossed. On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 5:34 PM Nan Sterman via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Please share what you learn. I would love to add that to my collection as > well > > Sent from my eye eye phone. All typos are the captain’s fault. > > > On Mar 15, 2022, at 12:37 PM, The Silent Seed via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > Many moons ago I grew these, and sold a bunch on E-Bay before I realized > > what I had; and no longer have this in my collection. > > I would love to ask if somebody may have a lead for me to add it back to > my > > collection. > > Thank you. > > Jude > > > > -- > > The Silent Seed > > Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. > > thesilentseed.com > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > -- The Silent Seed Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. thesilentseed.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 15 Mar 2022 23:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Carol Ronken via pbs Subject: Harry Ronken Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 01:15:28 +0000 Hi. This is a bit of the blue, and a more than a year after the question was posted, but I was doing some family history searches and stumbled across this question on your website. I’m not sure if the person who posted it is still interested in contacting him. If you feel it is appropriate, please feel free to share: Harry Ronken is my father. He did move from Evandale to a retirement village in Prospect Vale. He has retired, but still retains his love for plants and still potters around. 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It has failed on an Aloe species but with the Aloe I had the impression that there was almost no pollen. I will keep you updated and I am most interested in your feedback. I am very sure that this method can be improved. Here is the link to the Wiki again. https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Microwave Bye for now Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 16 Mar 2022 07:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs Subject: Freesia question Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 13:29:43 +0000 Dear All, Can I ask for your advice and opinion on these Freesia flowers? The bulbs were purchased in autumn in a garden centre, they are pot grown and outside in the open garden. They are not protected from rain. Principally I am very happy with them but there are three inflorescences which have these deformed flowers. New flowers start deformed and do not open properly. The upper flowerson the picture are normal. What is this? A virus? Thrips? The effects of rain? Should I remove these bulbs in order to prevent spread to the other bulbs in the same pot? Or should I discard the whole pot? I definitely want to keep my collection healthy. Thank you very much for your help Uli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The bulbs were purchased in autumn in a garden centre, they are pot grown and outside in the open garden. They are not protected from rain. Principally I am very happy with them but there are three inflorescences which have these deformed flowers. New flowers start deformed and do not open properly. The upper flowerson the picture are normal. What is this? A virus? Thrips? The effects of rain? Should I remove these bulbs in order to prevent spread to the other bulbs in the same pot? Or should I discard the whole pot? I definitely want to keep my collection healthy. Thank you very much for your help Uli -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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T ________________________________ From: pbs on behalf of Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 2:04 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Johannes-Ulrich Urban Subject: [pbs] Microwaving pollen Dear All, The article describing the microwaving of pollen to overcome self incompatibility was put into the Wiki by Robin and David. Thank you very much to both of you for editing and formatting. The title was somewhat misleading and has now been changed. Thank you, Tim, to pointing this out. I am at present using this technique on Cyrtanthus falcatus for the first time and again on Hippeastrum evansiae. It has failed on an Aloe species but with the Aloe I had the impression that there was almost no pollen. I will keep you updated and I am most interested in your feedback. I am very sure that this method can be improved. Here is the link to the Wiki again. https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pacificbulbsociety.org%2Fpbswiki%2Findex.php%2FMicrowave&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbd581c5c585e489f469008da072c0d4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637830183043524021%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FrNE9EhdK%2Bz%2BQyO2SyvmF1rkgRKjDQ9UaMwk34vHY5k%3D&reserved=0 Bye for now Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.pacificbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbd581c5c585e489f469008da072c0d4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637830183043524021%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=20IIRgKY9scaPPD8j30EhpiQ%2BBkTWx7W7flxFxVALT4%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 16 Mar 2022 12:17:04 -0700 Message-Id: <1236299886.232453.1647455137141@mail.yahoo.com> From: Mary Gorton via pbs Subject: Fwd: KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 18:25:35 +0000 (UTC) These are lovely seeds.  Very reliable sprouters.   If this doesn't post, contact me and I will send directly Mary Gorton -----Original Message----- From: KZN Clivia Breeders To: Maylene Turner ; Maziliauskai ; meganweier ; Merrimetsi Engineers ; mgorton01@verizon.net; Michael ; michael barrett ; Michael Chelednik ; Michael Holt ; Michael Humphreys ; Michael Kennedy Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2022 11:20 am Subject: Fw: KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS   From: KZN Clivia Breeders Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 5:07 PMTo: SEAN CHUBB Subject: KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS 2022www.cliviasa.co.za kzncliviabreeders@cliviasa.co.za Dear Clivia Enthusiast  The KZN Clivia Breeders are proud to present our 2022 seed list.  We would like to take the opportunity to thank our come back customers for your constant support and to welcome any new customers. We have a good variety of seed this year. Lots of NEW GENETICS and MODERN COLOURS. INSPIRED BY DIVERSITY. THERE ARE ALSO SOME NEW RELEASE COLOURS.  On the EXCEL seed list, these are highlighted as NEW.  KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS has two current suppliers namely:  Sean Chubb and Val Thurston. Both these breeders have been growing and breeding clivia for over 40 years.  Sean and Val have been supplying seed for sale with KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS since its inception 20 years ago. We pride ourselves in producing seed of the highest quality and true to type. Lots to select from and many exciting crosses and Modern colours. We hope there is something for everyone on this list, some very Rare crosses and some old favourites, but all Beautiful.  Our Selection of Clivia seed for sale can be found on our website. www.cliviasa.co.za On entering the site, click on KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS, the DROP DOWN MENU will show either Sean Chubb or Val Thurston lists.  Click on the variety of choices. Here you will find the crosses made within the variety. The pod parent is always stated first followed by the pollen parent. If you click on the picture it will enlarge. You can also download the EXCEL seed list. This is either printable or you can save it.  Make your choice and send an email to Sean Chubb. Our e-mail address is: kzncliviabreeders@cliviasa.co.za. I may take a few days to reply but, if you have not heard within a week, please re email me. PLEASE NOTE OUR BANKING DETAILS HAVE CHANGED AND WE NOW HAVE A FIRST NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNT. These details will be on your Invoice.  WE ALSO HAVE A PAYPAL ACCOUNT. kzncliviabreeders@cliviasa.co.za  We look forward to hearing from you. Assuring you of our best attention at all times.  Kind regards Sean & Val KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS 2022 CONDITIONS FOR SEED SALES.  We would like to take the opportunity to thank you for your constant support. We have a good variety of seed this year. Lots of NEW GENETICS and MODERN COLOURS. INSPIRED BY DIVERSITY. Please note we now have a dedicated e-mail address for the KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS.  Please send all orders to kzncliviabreeders@cliviasa.co.za  THE 2022 SEEDLIST, AS WELL AS PICTURES OF THE PARENT PLANTS, CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEB-SITE www.cliviasa.co.za  Sale of Seed is subject to the following conditions:  1. Seed will be allocated and sold on a first come first serve basis. If possible please give a second choice. You are welcome to add to your order at any time.  2. Payment must be made by Direct Deposit or PAYPAL. The costs incurred by deposits from foreign countries will be borne by the Purchaser. It is always difficult with changing exchange rates to send the exact amount. I will endeavour to check each deposit in Rands and advise the customer of the amount received. It is always better to send a little extra, just in case. If we do, in fact, receive more than the invoice, we will be sure to add a few choice seeds to your order!  At least 50% of amount due MUST be paid within 30 days of ordering to secure your order. Full payment MUST be received by the end of June 2022 and seeds will be despatched towards the end of July 2022.  3. If there is a shortfall in the payment received, seed equivalent in value to the shortfall will be deducted. So please ensure that the end funds, we receive in our account, are exactly the same as the amount owed as indicated on the Invoice.  4. OUR PAYPAY DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS. USE THE ADDRESS kzncliviabreeders@cliviasa.co.za.  PLEASE NOTE WE HAVE NEW BANK DETAILS AS OFF IMMEDIATELY.  WE HAVE MOVED FROM OUR ABSA ACCOUNT TO A FIRST NATIONAL BANK ACCOUNT. THE DETAILS ARE :- KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS. FIRST NATIONAL BANK. ACCOUNT NUMBER - 62296609567 HAYFIELDS BRANCH CODE - 221425 SWIFT CODE - FIRNZAJJ ADDRESS - SHOP 47-50 28 BLACKBURROW ROAD HAYFIELDS,PIETERMARITZBURG 3201 SOUTH AFRICA We look forward to hearing from you. Assuring you of our best attention at all times. Kind regardsSean & Val - KZN CLIVIA BREEDERS _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 16 Mar 2022 12:17:04 -0700 Message-Id: From: Tim Eck via pbs Subject: Microwaving pollen Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 15:00:27 -0400 It would also be nice if someone familiar with biotechnology would compare the genomes of parent and progeny to verify that they are not apomictic seed. The progeny individually will be much more homozygous than the parent although collectively they should have approximately the same gene distribution. On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 1:38 PM Tim Harvey via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > It would be good to see this method verified first. > > Please, please, please do proper controls. > Please determine the viability of the pollen after treatment (a very > simple test). > > T > ________________________________ > From: pbs on behalf of > Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 2:04 AM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: Johannes-Ulrich Urban > Subject: [pbs] Microwaving pollen > > Dear All, > > The article describing the microwaving of pollen to overcome self > incompatibility was put into the Wiki by Robin and David. Thank you very > much to both of you for editing and formatting. The title was somewhat > misleading and has now been changed. Thank you, Tim, to pointing this out. > I am at present using this technique on Cyrtanthus falcatus for the first > time and again on Hippeastrum evansiae. It has failed on an Aloe species > but with the Aloe I had the impression that there was almost no pollen. > I will keep you updated and I am most interested in your feedback. I am > very sure that this method can be improved. > Here is the link to the Wiki again. > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pacificbulbsociety.org%2Fpbswiki%2Findex.php%2FMicrowave&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbd581c5c585e489f469008da072c0d4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637830183043524021%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FrNE9EhdK%2Bz%2BQyO2SyvmF1rkgRKjDQ9UaMwk34vHY5k%3D&reserved=0 > > Bye for now > > Uli > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.pacificbulbsociety.net%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpbs&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cbd581c5c585e489f469008da072c0d4b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637830183043524021%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=20IIRgKY9scaPPD8j30EhpiQ%2BBkTWx7W7flxFxVALT4%3D&reserved=0 > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 16 Mar 2022 15:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Carl Dacus via pbs Subject: Freesia question Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 22:08:39 +0000 Uli, I would agree with Arnold, I would go with thips because of the striping effect. I would also see if similar effects are visible on some of the leaves. Thrips may attack within the buds or growing points of plants. Aphids in general attack soft material causing distortion of the new growth. Just going back into pot plant production from many years ago. Carl from a mild Dublin. A dry and milder winter than usual. On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 2:47 PM Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Uli > My first impression would be some sucking insect like a thirp or aphid. > > Trying looking under the flowers with a jewelers loupe or magnifying glass. > Arnold > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: Johannes-Ulrich Urban > Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2022 9:29 am > Subject: [pbs] Freesia question > > Dear All, > > Can I ask for your advice and opinion on these Freesia flowers? The bulbs > were purchased in autumn in a garden centre, they are pot grown and outside > in the open garden. They are not protected from rain. > Principally I am very happy with them but there are three inflorescences > which have these deformed flowers. New flowers start deformed and do not > open properly. The upper flowerson the picture are normal. > What is this? A virus? Thrips? The effects of rain? Should I remove these > bulbs in order to prevent spread to the other bulbs in the same pot? Or > should I discard the whole pot? 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Ipheion Uniflorum that I received last year in one of the BX offerings Velthemia Bractiata These are almost 10 years old, one of my first SA bulbs I ever obtained along with Haemanthus Albiflo, ( not pictured) These Veltheimia are from Telos, have to send a Thanks to Diana for all those years ago encouraging me to try these, when I asked " So what else is easy like Haemanthus?" I also have a Bomarea Edulis I got around the same time from Telos. Sturdy, vigorous but not invasive and hummingbirds prefer 2 to 1 over other flowering vines :) Many members of PBS, whether a full time occupation or a serious hobby business, supply us with high quality plants from far off places. Its not easy to import or know the plants you are buying were not likely wild collected . Great to have reliable sources for many geophyte's that don't take three months, a lucky rabbits and the anxiety they got intercepted for any number of reasons along the way, let alone the shipping costs...sometimes importing is the only way...or an SX/BX :) Photos are in order from top to bottom, Hope you enjoy, Mike San Diego... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_6266.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 192272 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_6267.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 126248 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_6470.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1787738 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Laura Niagara, Ontario On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 11:22 PM Mike via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Thought I would send in some photo's of what has bloomed the past few weeks > in San Diego for me. > Ipheion Uniflorum that I received last year in one of the BX offerings > Velthemia Bractiata These are almost 10 years old, one of my first SA > bulbs I ever obtained along with Haemanthus Albiflo, ( not pictured) These > Veltheimia are from Telos, have to send a Thanks to Diana for all those > years ago encouraging me to try these, when I asked " So what else is easy > like Haemanthus?" I also have a Bomarea Edulis I got around the same time > from Telos. Sturdy, vigorous but not invasive and hummingbirds prefer 2 to > 1 over other flowering vines :) > Many members of PBS, whether a full time occupation or a serious hobby > business, supply us with high quality plants from far off places. Its not > easy to import or know the plants you are buying were not likely wild > collected . Great to have reliable sources for many geophyte's that don't > take three months, a lucky rabbits and the anxiety they got intercepted > for any number of reasons along the way, let alone the shipping > costs...sometimes importing is the only way...or an SX/BX :) > Photos are in order from top to bottom, > > > Hope you enjoy, > > Mike > San Diego... > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_6266.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 192272 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220316/3b94e64f/attachment.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_6267.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 126248 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220316/3b94e64f/attachment-0001.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_6470.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1787738 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220316/3b94e64f/attachment.jpeg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Bomarea .jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1833772 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220316/3b94e64f/attachment-0002.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 16 Mar 2022 23:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: Blooming around the house and my pH tap water testing Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 22:59:10 -0700 Laura, Thank You, The Bomarea, is such an enjoyable vine. Let me know if you have any questions. Bright shade, I treated mine like an azalea 🌺in a 5 gallon pot. Good luck, Mike On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:32 PM Laura Grant via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Great photos Mike. Thanks for sharing! > I got the seeds of Bomarea edulis this year that I am trying to sprout. > Laura > Niagara, Ontario > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 11:22 PM Mike via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Thought I would send in some photo's of what has bloomed the past few > weeks > > in San Diego for me. > > Ipheion Uniflorum that I received last year in one of the BX offerings > > Velthemia Bractiata These are almost 10 years old, one of my first SA > > bulbs I ever obtained along with Haemanthus Albiflo, ( not pictured) > These > > Veltheimia are from Telos, have to send a Thanks to Diana for all those > > years ago encouraging me to try these, when I asked " So what else is > easy > > like Haemanthus?" I also have a Bomarea Edulis I got around the same > time > > from Telos. Sturdy, vigorous but not invasive and hummingbirds prefer 2 > to > > 1 over other flowering vines :) > > Many members of PBS, whether a full time occupation or a serious hobby > > business, supply us with high quality plants from far off places. Its > not > > easy to import or know the plants you are buying were not likely wild > > collected . Great to have reliable sources for many geophyte's that > don't > > take three months, a lucky rabbits and the anxiety they got intercepted > > for any number of reasons along the way, let alone the shipping > > costs...sometimes importing is the only way...or an SX/BX :) > > Photos are in order from top to bottom, > > > > > > Hope you enjoy, > > > > Mike > > San Diego... > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: IMG_6266.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 192272 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220316/3b94e64f/attachment.jpg > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: IMG_6267.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 126248 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220316/3b94e64f/attachment-0001.jpg > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: IMG_6470.jpeg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 1787738 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220316/3b94e64f/attachment.jpeg > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: Bomarea .jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 1833772 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220316/3b94e64f/attachment-0002.jpg > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: Hesperocallis Undulata Anza Borrego Desert State Park 3 14 17 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 23:49:04 -0700 This week is typically the time of year my friends and I would head out to Anza Borrego Desert State Park and check out the wildflowers. This year just didn't seem to be worth it, We did not receive enough rain and it didn't happen at crucial points in the winter season. These photos I took of Hesperocallis Undulata are from 3-14-17.in the Coyote Canyon area on the eastside of town in a intermittent streambed.. They are widely distributed in the Borrego Springs area, I have found them in places from stream beds to dry ridge lines near Fonts Point, They inhabit a far wider array of habitat zones zone then I had been aware of. I've included photos from Borrego Springs during a wet winter "Super Bloom". Mid March 2017. The bulbs for this desert geophyte typically lie dormant 3-6 feet below the surface. So we need a lot of rain to have the plant surface and bloom Mike San Diego -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG-2435 Desert Lilly.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 618333 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They are not protected from rain. > Principally I am very happy with them but there are three inflorescences > which have these deformed flowers. New flowers start deformed and do not > open properly. The upper flowerson the picture are normal. > What is this? A virus? Thrips? The effects of rain? Should I remove these > bulbs in order to prevent spread to the other bulbs in the same pot? Or > should I discard the whole pot? 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Bye for now Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 17 Mar 2022 14:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: <7EEF1F39-C6CA-4A8A-835B-E01AAE242120@t-online.de> From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs Subject: Pictures Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 20:50:46 +0000 Hello Mike, Thank you very much for sharing so many pictures. I imagine San Diego becoming very hot in summer, or am I wrong? How does Bomarea edulis cope with summer heat? Does it go (partly) dormant? I have some Bomarea seedlings here in Portugal but they are not really growing well. They are kept in shade and as cool as I can during my hot summers. The pictures you sent from Anza Borrego remind me of two visits some time ago. I did not see Hesperocallis but many other beautiful flowers and was most impressed by the site where the little stream that comes from the valley disappeared into the gravelly streambed. I had never seen something like this before. I remember large plants of Datura opening their flowers at dusk. Thank you for sharing Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 17 Mar 2022 18:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <7FC30355-FFDF-474A-951A-9988FF60FB5D@hxcore.ol> From: Mike via pbs Subject: Pictures Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 17:36:38 -0700 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 18 Mar 2022 08:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Shao via pbs Subject: Chileflora status? Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 08:06:18 -0700 I placed an order with Chileflora in December and it is arriving today apparently. No response to emails that I have seen. James On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 12:13 PM Lee Poulsen via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I placed orders for seeds from Chileflora last year in May and July and > got both orders. (Except for Zephyra, which I really wanted, but I guess > they were out of, although the website let me order it.) I also got an > email from Michail himself in June. But since I haven’t contacted > Chileflora since then, I don’t know about anything what may have happened > recently. > > --Lee Poulsen > Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a > Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > > > On Feb 20, 2022, at 11:25 AM, Cody H via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > Thanks Diane, > > > > I emailed rareplants.de and they said they have also not heard back from > > Michail in several months and don’t know why. > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Cody H via pbs Subject: Chileflora status? Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:11:03 -0700 Well, that’s interesting... and encouraging. I’m curious to know how the order looks and if there’s any other useful info in there about Michail or the business, if you don’t mind following up here once you receive it. On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 8:06 AM James Shao via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I placed an order with Chileflora in December and it is arriving today > apparently. No response to emails that I have seen. > > James > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 12:13 PM Lee Poulsen via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > I placed orders for seeds from Chileflora last year in May and July and > > got both orders. (Except for Zephyra, which I really wanted, but I guess > > they were out of, although the website let me order it.) I also got an > > email from Michail himself in June. But since I haven’t contacted > > Chileflora since then, I don’t know about anything what may have happened > > recently. > > > > --Lee Poulsen > > Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a > > Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > > > > > On Feb 20, 2022, at 11:25 AM, Cody H via pbs < > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Diane, > > > > > > I emailed rareplants.de and they said they have also not heard back > from > > > Michail in several months and don’t know why. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 18 Mar 2022 10:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Richard Wagner via pbs Subject: Silverhill Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:58:27 -0700 Has anyone placed a retail order with Silverhill Seeds lately? They sent out a message last December to hurry and order your seeds before they sent a courier to Switzerland with all the orders. I did so and then, was told, that because of Christmas they would hold orders until January./ They did so and shipped the order in January and I received it in early February. The order consisted of 4 species of Ceropegia and 6 species of Lachenalia. The Lachenalia were well filled but two of the Ceropegia contained only a bit of chaff. These were the less common varieties. Since then, the other two have germinated, but the Lachenalia have shown no germination. They stated that once mailed they had no responsibility what ever, which seemed a strange remark. So, has anyone had a similar experience? Richard Wagner _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 19 Mar 2022 01:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: Lachenalia Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 00:20:58 -0700 The final lachenalia species I am growing is blooming now, its one of the many types of L. Pustulata. It's leaves are almost black as they emerge, turning green on the top, and an inky purple on the lower surface, the bumps are pronounced and evenly distributed across the leaf surface....the flowers are bluish purple. My favorite in the category " Thats a Lachenalia?" is L. Zeyheri mine are pretty young, so I'm hoping as they grow the flower spikes will become more abundant. The grasslike leaves that remain curled are great as is the slightly sweet scent. This form of L. Aloides var. 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And to everyone in the EU: don't forget, when you sort out your pots and basements, we're planning on a second distribution around mid-end of April, so please continue to send me your surplus to Martin Bohnet Ludwigstr. 1 73035 Göppingen GERMANY -- Martin (pronoun: he) ---------------------------------------------- Southern Germany Likely zone 7a _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 20 Mar 2022 06:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <7D6E2582-13FC-4329-9B04-18BDC5E4D505@comcast.net> From: Carl Frederick via pbs Subject: World’s largest not-potato Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:11:44 -0400 https://apple.news/AHcZImHfDTQmDO0nxfsOsTQ As a gardener wouldn’t you think he would try to grow it as opposed to freeze it? Also, does this mean we can make more temperate mega-tubers by hybridization (which is not really hybridization as such since we’re talking about a single species I assume)? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 20 Mar 2022 07:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Schaeffer via pbs Subject: World’s largest not-potato Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:37:09 -0400 Idk...have to take this kind of popular "science" reporting with a grain of salt. I mean if the guy's really a gardner he should have been able to spot that it's not a potato. Where are the eyes? And a tuberous cucurbit in the UK is nothing odd - my knowledge of European plants is PATHETIC, but I still know about white bryony, and I'll bet it's not the only tuberous cuke native to the area. As to whether cold-hardy cukes could be created through hybridization, sure, probably. But it would be a fairly major undertaking. You'd be starting from the ground up (groan. Look, you want Steve Hammer-level jokes? Go get Steve Hammer). I would think Mexico would be a good starting point, finding something close enough to mouse melon to begin breeding. There's ulluco, too, but it's no hardier than a potato. It'd be interesting to try. And probably an interesting way to introduce some new viruses to cultivation... - Dave On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, 9:12 AM Carl Frederick via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > https://apple.news/AHcZImHfDTQmDO0nxfsOsTQ > > As a gardener wouldn’t you think he would try to grow it as opposed to > freeze it? Also, does this mean we can make more temperate mega-tubers by > hybridization (which is not really hybridization as such since we’re > talking about a single species I assume)? > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 20 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Robert Parks via pbs Subject: World’s largest not-potato Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 07:27:51 -0700 And here in California we have the man root, a cucurbit (Marah) that grows a perennial tuber to larger than 100 kilos. Although I suppose, if you had a big one in your garden, the distinctive foliage and fruits might tip you off...and the tuber doesn't much look like any potato. They are mildly hardy, but would require a lot of work to breed them away from toxicity and towards being g a productive crop. On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, 6:37 AM David Schaeffer via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Idk...have to take this kind of popular "science" reporting with a grain of > salt. I mean if the guy's really a gardner he should have been able to spot > that it's not a potato. Where are the eyes? And a tuberous cucurbit in the > UK is nothing odd - my knowledge of European plants is PATHETIC, but I > still know about white bryony, and I'll bet it's not the only tuberous cuke > native to the area. > > As to whether cold-hardy cukes could be created through hybridization, > sure, probably. But it would be a fairly major undertaking. You'd be > starting from the ground up (groan. Look, you want Steve Hammer-level > jokes? Go get Steve Hammer). I would think Mexico would be a good starting > point, finding something close enough to mouse melon to begin breeding. > There's ulluco, too, but it's no hardier than a potato. It'd be interesting > to try. And probably an interesting way to introduce some new viruses to > cultivation... > > > - Dave > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, 9:12 AM Carl Frederick via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > https://apple.news/AHcZImHfDTQmDO0nxfsOsTQ > > > > As a gardener wouldn’t you think he would try to grow it as opposed to > > freeze it? Also, does this mean we can make more temperate mega-tubers > by > > hybridization (which is not really hybridization as such since we’re > > talking about a single species I assume)? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 20 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <282580828.1063224.1647786849023@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: World’s largest not-potato Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 14:34:09 +0000 (UTC) I also thought it was odd that the vine that must've been connected to that monster wouldn't have been something he noticed in his potato bed.  Some gardener! It is also odd that he would dig up something unknown and eat a piece of it.  If it were some kind of nightshade or many other things, it might not have ended well. Re. mouse melons:  They were so darn cute a friend gave me some seedlings, but when they got ready to harvest, roughly 90% of them each had a worm inside.  My ag agent said just dump a lot of sevin dust and it will control them.  I am willing to use various pesticides and herbicides as appropriate, but in the kitchen garden all I grow are exotic peppers, cherry tomatoes, and tomatillos, all of which need no insecticides at all, so I wasn't about to wade into that for the sake of micro cukes!  But they are cute. Bob   Zone 7 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 20 Mar 2022 08:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Schaeffer via pbs Subject: World’s largest not-potato Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:41:31 -0400 If you keepmouse melon growing for YEARS, it makes a sorta-kinda caudex you can partially expose. Or so I've been told. As far as edibility, I think it would be more rewarding to go after edible fruit than an edible tuber. Perennial tubers tend to be fibrous to almost woody after a season of growth, more "emergency food" than anything, or at least requiring heavy processing. But if you had some kind of melon to eat year after year, that could be rewarding. I'm thinking tons of supplemental watering or at least fert would be necessary. -Dave On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, 10:34 AM Robert Lauf via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I also thought it was odd that the vine that must've been connected to > that monster wouldn't have been something he noticed in his potato bed. > Some gardener! > It is also odd that he would dig up something unknown and eat a piece of > it. If it were some kind of nightshade or many other things, it might not > have ended well. > Re. mouse melons: They were so darn cute a friend gave me some seedlings, > but when they got ready to harvest, roughly 90% of them each had a worm > inside. My ag agent said just dump a lot of sevin dust and it will control > them. I am willing to use various pesticides and herbicides as > appropriate, but in the kitchen garden all I grow are exotic peppers, > cherry tomatoes, and tomatillos, all of which need no insecticides at all, > so I wasn't about to wade into that for the sake of micro cukes! But they > are cute. > Bob Zone 7 > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Richard Wagner via pbs Subject: Blooms Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:08:22 -0700 Nice clump of Hippeastrum -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kind regards Martin Am 21.03.2022 um 02:09 schrieb VIJAY CHANDHOK via pbs : > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image0.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 143114 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: Dr. Martin Nickol M.A., FLS Gartenkustos/Keeper of the Botanic Garden Botanisches Institut und Botanischer Garten der Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel Am Botanischen Garten 5 24118 Kiel Tel. 0431-880 4273 Fax 0431-880-4295 mnickol@bot.uni-kiel.de _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 20 Mar 2022 18:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <1432771422.561585.1647825205788@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Identify this plant from California Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 01:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Vijay Looks like an echium Arnold Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, March 20, 2022, 9:09 PM, VIJAY CHANDHOK via pbs wrote: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, 6:09 PM VIJAY CHANDHOK via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image0.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 143114 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220320/251b7904/attachment.jpeg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 21 Mar 2022 06:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Joe G via pbs Subject: first blooms Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 08:37:59 -0400 Tim, Love the twisted red one! The dark color, contrast, and contorted petals remind me of Victorian oddities like Aristolochia cymbifera. What's its lineage? -joe On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 5:24 PM Tim Eck via pbs wrote: > > Here are a couple of hippeastrum hybrid first blooms. 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I have long since lost the maternal parent to a freeze. Aulicum would definitely make a nice curl combined with papilio and cybister. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:38 AM Joe G via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Tim, > > Love the twisted red one! The dark color, contrast, and contorted > petals remind me of Victorian oddities like Aristolochia cymbifera. > What's its lineage? > > -joe > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 5:24 PM Tim Eck via pbs > wrote: > > > > Here are a couple of hippeastrum hybrid first blooms. 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Of course, you can spend your time pulling it out to open the space. Pretty plant but not for me. Geri From: pbs on behalf of Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Date: Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 6:13 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Arnold Trachtenberg Subject: Re: [pbs] Identify this plant from California Vijay Looks like an echium Arnold Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, March 20, 2022, 9:09 PM, VIJAY CHANDHOK via pbs wrote: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I’ve seen it in gardens popping up. Of course, you can spend your time pulling it out to open the space. Pretty plant but not for me. Geri > > From: pbs on behalf of Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs > Date: Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 6:13 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: Arnold Trachtenberg > Subject: Re: [pbs] Identify this plant from California > Vijay > Looks like an echium > Arnold > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022, 9:09 PM, VIJAY CHANDHOK via pbs wrote: > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image0.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 143114 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 22 Mar 2022 18:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <8a8e94d5-5d0e-6ca6-e0da-b7084aae5b38@earthlink.net> From: Jane McGary via pbs Subject: Bulb collection open Saturday Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 18:05:01 -0700 The Columbia-Willamette chapter of the North American Rock Garden Society will be meeting at Jane McGary's home on Saturday, March 26, at any time between 10 am and 3 pm. PBS members who do not belong to the NARGS chapter are welcome to join us to see how the bulbs are grown and to enjoy those that are in flower. The address is 4620 SE View Acres Road, Milwaukie 97267, which is in the neighborhood of Oak Grove near the major intersection of McLoughlin Blvd and Concord Road. We will also be pricing donated plants for the Hardy Plant Society of Oregon sale on the first weekend of April, and chapter members may purchase plants before the sale. You may wish to bring a mask, since the bulb house can become crowded. Jane McGary _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 22 Mar 2022 23:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Michael M. via pbs" Subject: Seeing Moraeas in bloom Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 22:52:16 -0700 Hi, gang. A couple of people in the SF Bay Area have pinged me wanting to see my Moraea hybrids in bloom. Unfortunately, I didn't keep good track of who those people were, so I wanted to say here that we're at peak bloom time and this weekend would be the time to visit. If you're one of the folks who want to visit, please ping me PRIVATELY at the email address above, and we'll work out the logistics. And to set expectations, my yard is the opposite of a botanic garden: not well organized, overgrown, and kind of rustic. But there are a good number of flowers in a couple of the Moraea beds. Thanks, Mike San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 23 Mar 2022 18:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <4F0D8C30-1457-4F08-A88A-3079800190B6@verizon.net> From: Kenneth Preteroti via pbs Subject: Cyrtanthus herrei Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 20:33:52 -0400 My first successful C. herrei seedling from my own plant. Ken P New Jersey, USA Zone 7a “Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past” George Orwell, 1984 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Pilling via pbs Subject: Cyrtanthus herrei Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 01:53:19 +0000 Hi, As ever, the missing photo from the post below is available from the scrubbed link at the end. On 24/03/2022 00:33, Kenneth Preteroti via pbs wrote: > My first successful C. herrei seedling from my own plant. > -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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David had to send the picture because I did not send a jpeg picture file. The seeds were planted on the soil surface. I added sand after germination. Ken P New Jersey, USA Zone 7a “Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past” George Orwell, 1984 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: <6A151035-785C-4E96-A80C-E8AEA1290396@gmail.com> From: Diana Hurter via pbs Subject: Cyrtanthus herrei Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 13:38:34 +0000 Ken, could you take us one step back and describe your method of pollination? I am so impressed by your seed. Oh and envious too as my attempt at pollinating by paintbrush failed. Diana Hurter In a very warm, dry and sunny London (until next week) > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:04:00 -0400 > From: Kenneth Preteroti > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Cyrtanthus herrei > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Paul the seedling is mine. David had to send the picture because I did not send a jpeg picture file. > > The seeds were planted on the soil surface. I added sand after germination. > > Ken P > New Jersey, USA > Zone 7a > > ?Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past? > > George Orwell, 1984 > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 61, Issue 23 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 25 Mar 2022 12:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <2174D238-0015-42CC-A6D0-4509F4B79F18@verizon.net> From: Kenneth Preteroti via pbs Subject: Cyrtanthus herrei Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 14:12:26 -0400 Diana I wish I had a secret formula. While I have several plants they don’t seem to bloom for me the same year. Here is the bloom in October 2021. I assumed I needed a flower from another plant to pollinate it. So I didn’t try. Nature just did it’s job. Ken P New Jersey, USA Zone 7a “Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past” George Orwell, 1984 > On Mar 25, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Diana Hurter via pbs wrote: > Ken, could you take us one step back and describe your method of pollination? I am so impressed by your seed. Oh and envious too as my attempt at pollinating by paintbrush failed. > > Diana Hurter > In a very warm, dry and sunny London (until next week) >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 16:04:00 -0400 >> From: Kenneth Preteroti >> To: Pacific Bulb Society >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Cyrtanthus herrei >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> Paul the seedling is mine. David had to send the picture because I did not send a jpeg picture file. >> >> The seeds were planted on the soil surface. I added sand after germination. >> >> Ken P >> New Jersey, USA >> Zone 7a >> >> ?Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past? >> >> George Orwell, 1984 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of pbs Digest, Vol 61, Issue 23 >> *********************************** > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Robert Parks via pbs Subject: Oxalis tuberosa (Oca) to share plus geophyte aroids Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 18:01:57 -0700 The bulbs/tubers have decided that spring has sprung, and they are ready to go. Mostly Oca, but also Amorphophallus and similar. USA shipping only. This is a free distribution, please make a donation to the PBS in lieu of compensating me. I will pay shipping. Email me privately ( trolleypup@gmail.com) with your Name, Address, and what you are interested in. If you are local to SF and can pick up, email me, as there are other things that are too big or unwieldy to ship. I have a large quantity of Oca (Andean root vegetable) of several varieties that either have to be shared or will be discarded (the large tubers were eaten), all are sprouting. Definitely not the usual decorative geophyte...they grow vigorously to a meter across, in a rambling form with occasional yellow flowers, in decent conditions they will produce more than a pound of tubers from a single tuber. They are high elevation tropicals, requiring cool/moderate days and cool nights all summer, along with consistent moisture (coastal PNW, coastal N California), they will not thrive in hot conditions, also, tuber formation doesn't start til the fall equinox). I have half a dozen varieties of Oca. Unless otherwise noted, I'll send a selection of a few tubers of each variety, If you want a larger amount, I will happily send more. The Amorphophallus, Sauromatum, and Oxalis will be divided equally unless otherwise requested. Oca (Oxalis tuberosa): white, Amarillo, Bolivian Red, Creamy Yellow, Hopin Alba, Sunset, dark rose with peach. Oxalis meissneri Oxalis stenorhyncha Amorphophallus albus, bulbifer, konjac (multiple clones), konjac Leo Song Sauromatum venosum (multiple clones), venosum Indian Giant Robert in cool San Francisco, where maybe a bit of rail will fall soon. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 26 Mar 2022 08:17:23 -0700 Message-Id: <853632941.317377.1648307775176@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: Leucocoryne vittatum Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Flowering today. Arnold -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In an ongoing effort to make more hardy Hipp crosses, I have some seeds germinating that resulted from pollinating a few interesting hybrids with pollen I took from H. Johnsonii when it was blooming outside late last summer.  I took whole anthers and put into a pill bottle with silica gel beads, gave them some time to dry a little in the refrigerator, then moved to the freezer.  No idea how long the stored pollen typically lasts, but this would've been at least four to six months. On a related note, my first "hardy" cross involved Salmon Pearl and reginae.  I have ten seedlings that have grown and multiplied well outside and are blooming.  I'll post the pix in due course to show the range of blooms, all of which are in varying degrees intermediate between the two parents.  Nothing to write home about but very hardy here.  Seeds from that cross that have been in the refrigerator for probably six years now are still viable, based on a germination test I did on some a few weeks ago.  That seemed like a long time for the seeds to tolerate cold storage, but if anyone has more data on that matter, please share it.  Thanks! Bob    Zone 7 E Tenn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: H. machupijchensis.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4149336 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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All typos are the captain’s fault. > On Mar 26, 2022, at 8:16 AM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: > > Flowering today. > Arnold > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Leucocoryne vittatum.2022.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 721533 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 07:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: Some favorite lachs Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 07:14:16 -0700 Beautiful L. violacea variety glauca Ken. Looks like it has a fairly tal flower spike ? Is it a fairly large Lach? Mike On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 8:02 PM Ken via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Nice, Carl ! > I'll add my current favorite ... Lachenalia violacea variety glauca. Has > a sweet coconut fragrance which will permeate an entire room if brought > inside. > > > Ken Blackford,San Diego, zone 10 > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 8:18 AM, Carl Frederick wrote: White flowered > one is L .anguinea, purple is L. orchioides ssp. glaucina, lastly ... > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20220326_195135.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1810415 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220327/48d08237/attachment.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20220326_195206.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1724534 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220327/48d08237/attachment-0001.jpg > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20220326_195250.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 715905 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220327/48d08237/attachment-0002.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 09:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: <2108E5E7-1A3A-4B96-967E-D2DA8C777EEB@yahoo.com> From: Ottoline Clapham via pbs Subject: Lachenalias Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 08:27:28 -0700 Robert those Lachenalia are stunning, I had L. quadricolor flowering at the beginning of Spring and then a batch I got last November from the PBX flowering now, I attached a picture of these late bloomers. Also have the green L. aloides var vanzyliae flowering at present. Enjoy Sunday Here it is windy and cool and still hoping for some rain. Ottoline Yuba City Zone 9 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 41488 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 43735 bytes Desc: not available URL: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 09:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: <54FAD617-241A-488C-9880-801C912042CE@yahoo.com> From: Ottoline Clapham via pbs Subject: Some favorite Lachenalia Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 08:35:33 -0700 Carl and Ken , the Lachenalia are totally awesome . Most inspiring. Ottoline _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 09:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: <1394707958.750219.1648395530686@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: Lachenalias Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 15:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Very nicely grown! _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:17:07 -0700 Message-Id: <002101d841fc$b85c4b50$2914e1f0$@cox.net> From: XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs Subject: Hippeastrum machupijchensis Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:04:27 -0400 Hey Bob, Great photo of the Hipp. Very nicely done. Thanks for sharing! Bern in Williamsburg Zone 7b -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lauf via pbs Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:42 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Robert Lauf Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum machupijchensis I got this lovely species a year ago from Telos and it has grown well. This is the first bloom for me, and it is already making a small offset. It never loses its leaves under my greenhouse conditions. I'll try the microwave ploy and see if I can get some seed set, but if any member has one of these blooming and would like to swap some pollen, please send me a private email and we can exchange addresses. In an ongoing effort to make more hardy Hipp crosses, I have some seeds germinating that resulted from pollinating a few interesting hybrids with pollen I took from H. Johnsonii when it was blooming outside late last summer. I took whole anthers and put into a pill bottle with silica gel beads, gave them some time to dry a little in the refrigerator, then moved to the freezer. No idea how long the stored pollen typically lasts, but this would've been at least four to six months. On a related note, my first "hardy" cross involved Salmon Pearl and reginae. I have ten seedlings that have grown and multiplied well outside and are blooming. I'll post the pix in due course to show the range of blooms, all of which are in varying degrees intermediate between the two parents. Nothing to write home about but very hardy here. Seeds from that cross that have been in the refrigerator for probably six years now are still viable, based on a germination test I did on some a few weeks ago. That seemed like a long time for the seeds to tolerate cold storage, but if anyone has more data on that matter, please share it. Thanks! Bob Zone 7 E Tenn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope to post more grubby scientific shots soon.  I've made leaf cuttings from an obscure Resnova/Drimia/Ledebouria maxima and they appear to be rooting, so I'll post all the steps.  PBS really should start building a list of all the plants we know are amenable to leaf cuttings.  The list appears to be more extensive than many think. On Sunday, March 27, 2022, 01:04:37 PM EDT, XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs wrote: Hey Bob, Great photo of the Hipp.  Very nicely done.  Thanks for sharing! Bern in Williamsburg Zone 7b -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lauf via pbs Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:42 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Robert Lauf Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum machupijchensis I got this lovely species a year ago from Telos and it has grown well.  This is the first bloom for me, and it is already making a small offset.  It never loses its leaves under my greenhouse conditions. I'll try the microwave ploy and see if I can get some seed set, but if any member has one of these blooming and would like to swap some pollen, please send me a private email and we can exchange addresses. In an ongoing effort to make more hardy Hipp crosses, I have some seeds germinating that resulted from pollinating a few interesting hybrids with pollen I took from H. Johnsonii when it was blooming outside late last summer.  I took whole anthers and put into a pill bottle with silica gel beads, gave them some time to dry a little in the refrigerator, then moved to the freezer.  No idea how long the stored pollen typically lasts, but this would've been at least four to six months. On a related note, my first "hardy" cross involved Salmon Pearl and reginae.  I have ten seedlings that have grown and multiplied well outside and are blooming.  I'll post the pix in due course to show the range of blooms, all of which are in varying degrees intermediate between the two parents.  Nothing to write home about but very hardy here.  Seeds from that cross that have been in the refrigerator for probably six years now are still viable, based on a germination test I did on some a few weeks ago.  That seemed like a long time for the seeds to tolerate cold storage, but if anyone has more data on that matter, please share it.  Thanks! Bob    Zone 7 E Tenn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: H. machupijchensis.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4149336 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Just a cursory look at images on the net show a wide color variation. This one from SANBI looks much like yours: http://pza.sanbi.org/cyrtanthus-falcatus Arnold -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Plummer via pbs To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Nicholas Plummer Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 3:46 pm Subject: [pbs] Cyrtanthus falcatus—green flowers I have finally flowered a Cyrtanthus falcatus that I purchased in 2014, and I am surprised by the color.  Flowers are green with only a very thin picotee edge of color.  There is a somewhat similar picture by Mary Sue Ittner on the wiki, but my plant has even less color.  Is this a common color variant, or is the lack of color perhaps due to growing conditions? Photo attached, I hope. Nick Plummer North Carolina, Zone 7 https://sweetgumandpines.wordpress.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And it does have a subtle beauty, nicely captured in the image. Bob _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: <002401d84216$912da0f0$b388e2d0$@cox.net> From: XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs Subject: Hippeastrum machupijchensis Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 16:09:28 -0400 I think General Augusto Pinochet was an Andean reptile. But he wouldn't do well in your Eve in the Garden collection! -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lauf via pbs Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 1:15 PM To: XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs Cc: Robert Lauf Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum machupijchensis Glad you like it. I don't have any Andean reptiles to add drama, and no traveling models were in town to hold it provocatively for one of my Eve in the Garden collection, so I just had to play it straight. But with the studio already set up, it's a snap (no pun intended) to bring in whatever is blooming and push the button. I hope to post more grubby scientific shots soon. I've made leaf cuttings from an obscure Resnova/Drimia/Ledebouria maxima and they appear to be rooting, so I'll post all the steps. PBS really should start building a list of all the plants we know are amenable to leaf cuttings. The list appears to be more extensive than many think. On Sunday, March 27, 2022, 01:04:37 PM EDT, XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs wrote: Hey Bob, Great photo of the Hipp. Very nicely done. Thanks for sharing! Bern in Williamsburg Zone 7b -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lauf via pbs Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:42 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Robert Lauf Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum machupijchensis I got this lovely species a year ago from Telos and it has grown well. This is the first bloom for me, and it is already making a small offset. It never loses its leaves under my greenhouse conditions. I'll try the microwave ploy and see if I can get some seed set, but if any member has one of these blooming and would like to swap some pollen, please send me a private email and we can exchange addresses. In an ongoing effort to make more hardy Hipp crosses, I have some seeds germinating that resulted from pollinating a few interesting hybrids with pollen I took from H. Johnsonii when it was blooming outside late last summer. I took whole anthers and put into a pill bottle with silica gel beads, gave them some time to dry a little in the refrigerator, then moved to the freezer. No idea how long the stored pollen typically lasts, but this would've been at least four to six months. On a related note, my first "hardy" cross involved Salmon Pearl and reginae. I have ten seedlings that have grown and multiplied well outside and are blooming. I'll post the pix in due course to show the range of blooms, all of which are in varying degrees intermediate between the two parents. Nothing to write home about but very hardy here. Seeds from that cross that have been in the refrigerator for probably six years now are still viable, based on a germination test I did on some a few weeks ago. That seemed like a long time for the seeds to tolerate cold storage, but if anyone has more data on that matter, please share it. Thanks! Bob Zone 7 E Tenn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Looks like it has a fairly tal ... > I'll add my current favorite ... Lachenalia violacea variety glauca.  Has > a sweet coconut fragrance which will permeate an entire room if brought > inside. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <002b01d84217$d65eaec0$831c0c40$@cox.net> From: XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs Subject: Hippeastrum machupijchensis Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 16:18:32 -0400 Very Sorry! This was meant to be a private response. My very bad! -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 4:09 PM To: 'Pacific Bulb Society' Cc: XYZ2 in Virginia <867ykcor@cox.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum machupijchensis I think General Augusto Pinochet was an Andean reptile. But he wouldn't do well in your Eve in the Garden collection! -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lauf via pbs Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 1:15 PM To: XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs Cc: Robert Lauf Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum machupijchensis Glad you like it. I don't have any Andean reptiles to add drama, and no traveling models were in town to hold it provocatively for one of my Eve in the Garden collection, so I just had to play it straight. But with the studio already set up, it's a snap (no pun intended) to bring in whatever is blooming and push the button. I hope to post more grubby scientific shots soon. I've made leaf cuttings from an obscure Resnova/Drimia/Ledebouria maxima and they appear to be rooting, so I'll post all the steps. PBS really should start building a list of all the plants we know are amenable to leaf cuttings. The list appears to be more extensive than many think. On Sunday, March 27, 2022, 01:04:37 PM EDT, XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs wrote: Hey Bob, Great photo of the Hipp. Very nicely done. Thanks for sharing! Bern in Williamsburg Zone 7b -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lauf via pbs Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:42 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Robert Lauf Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum machupijchensis I got this lovely species a year ago from Telos and it has grown well. This is the first bloom for me, and it is already making a small offset. It never loses its leaves under my greenhouse conditions. I'll try the microwave ploy and see if I can get some seed set, but if any member has one of these blooming and would like to swap some pollen, please send me a private email and we can exchange addresses. In an ongoing effort to make more hardy Hipp crosses, I have some seeds germinating that resulted from pollinating a few interesting hybrids with pollen I took from H. Johnsonii when it was blooming outside late last summer. I took whole anthers and put into a pill bottle with silica gel beads, gave them some time to dry a little in the refrigerator, then moved to the freezer. No idea how long the stored pollen typically lasts, but this would've been at least four to six months. On a related note, my first "hardy" cross involved Salmon Pearl and reginae. I have ten seedlings that have grown and multiplied well outside and are blooming. I'll post the pix in due course to show the range of blooms, all of which are in varying degrees intermediate between the two parents. Nothing to write home about but very hardy here. Seeds from that cross that have been in the refrigerator for probably six years now are still viable, based on a germination test I did on some a few weeks ago. That seemed like a long time for the seeds to tolerate cold storage, but if anyone has more data on that matter, please share it. Thanks! 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I haven't seen (or looked for) any research on the topic, but I've seen multiple flowers that developed in different temperature conditions that were so different in color I'd never have believed they were from the same plant if I hadn't had it in front of me. But I think it's quite nice as it is. Steve On 3/27/2022 3:04 PM, Robert Lauf via pbs wrote: > I agree with Arnold, and my one suggestion, based on complete ignorance of Cyrtanthus but observations of many other things, is that much cooler conditions can enhance the production of anthocyanins.  So moving it outside any time the temps are above freezing might bring out more of the red.  Just a thought. > And it does have a subtle beauty, nicely captured in the image. > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 16:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <2093538313.825919.1648421386988@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: Cyrtanthus falcatus—green flowers Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 22:49:46 +0000 (UTC) Looking on Google Scholar using "influence of temperature on anthocyanin" or similar search terms yields lots of hits, many fairly abstruse and most dealing with fruits.  I used to grow a dahlia 'Crichton Honey" that had a lot of red blush in the blooms in spring and fall, but in really hot weather the blooms were almost completely yellow.  So that's another data point, albeit anecdotal. Just as an example from the abstract of one paper:Anthocyanins are flavonoid compounds that protect plant tissues from many environmental stresses including high light irradiance, freezing temperatures, and pathogen infection. Regulation of anthocyanin biosynthesis is intimately associated with environmental changes to enhance plant survival under stressful environmental conditions. Various factors, such as UV, visible light, cold, osmotic stress, and pathogen infection, can induce anthocyanin biosynthesis. In contrast, high temperatures are known to reduce anthocyanin accumulation in many plant species, even drastically in the skin of fruits such as grape berries and apples.  On Sunday, March 27, 2022, 05:19:06 PM EDT, Steve Marak via pbs wrote: Bob beat me to that comment, but it's widely accepted in orchid circles that cooler temperatures, especially in combination with brighter light, yield more intense flower colors, sometimes dramatically so. I haven't seen (or looked for) any research on the topic, but I've seen multiple flowers that developed in different temperature conditions that were so different in color I'd never have believed they were from the same plant if I hadn't had it in front of me. But I think it's quite nice as it is. Steve On 3/27/2022 3:04 PM, Robert Lauf via pbs wrote: >  I agree with Arnold, and my one suggestion, based on complete ignorance of Cyrtanthus but observations of many other things, is that much cooler conditions can enhance the production of anthocyanins.  So moving it outside any time the temps are above freezing might bring out more of the red.  Just a thought. > And it does have a subtle beauty, nicely captured in the image. > Bob >    >    > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 16:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <68F9AD56-430A-4FB3-BD29-97C96552DBB8@gmail.com> From: Nicholas Plummer via pbs Subject: Cyrtanthus falcatus—green flowers Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 18:56:14 -0400 Bob, Steve, and Arnold, I’m willing to believe that temperature has an effect on color intensity—I’ve seen it in my orchids and vireyas—but C. falcatus must be exquisitely sensitive if too much warmth is the sole cause of these green flowers. I had the plant on the floor of the greenhouse, near the poorly sealed door, so the temperature was probably 10-20 degrees lower than the 58 F thermostat set-point on cold nights. I have found C. obliquus much easier to flower, so I suspect that C. falcatus wants something I haven’t given it. Maybe average temps are too high, even though winter nights are cool. Nick _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 18:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jana Mariposa via pbs Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 61, Issue 25 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 00:24:23 +0000 I had some glorious Leucocorynes in pots here in almost-coastal N. Cal. but they only seemed to survive one season. I loved them. Did they need to be dried off, shaded, or ?? any advice appreciated. I can't 'baby' bulbs very much as I have more than 2500 pots that I have to hand water in my Pollinator Nursery, with no employees but Yours Truly. Thanks. Jana Mariposa/Mariposa Habitat Nursery Santa Rosa, CA Zone 8(?) getting colder, dryer, and hotter every year. ------ Original Message ------ From: pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sent: 3/27/2022 5:00:01 AM Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 61, Issue 25 >Send pbs mailing list submissions to >pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at >pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 27 Mar 2022 18:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <804274676.482320.1648427728389@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 61, Issue 25 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 00:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Jana I’m in the northeast of New Jersey and my Leucocoryne get the same treatment as the South Africans.  Greenhouse at no less that 45F and some supplemental light during daylight hours.  Summers are in a cool basement without any moisture  Arnold Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, March 27, 2022, 8:25 PM, Jana Mariposa via pbs wrote: I had some glorious Leucocorynes in pots here in almost-coastal N. Cal.  but they only seemed to survive one season.  I loved them.  Did they need to be dried off, shaded, or ??  any advice appreciated.  I can't 'baby' bulbs very much as I have more than 2500 pots that I have to hand water in my Pollinator Nursery, with no employees but Yours Truly.  Thanks.  Jana Mariposa/Mariposa Habitat Nursery  Santa Rosa, CA  Zone 8(?)  getting colder, dryer, and hotter every year. ------ Original Message ------ From: pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sent: 3/27/2022 5:00:01 AM Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 61, Issue 25 >Send pbs mailing list submissions to >pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >You can reach the person managing the list at >pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 28 Mar 2022 18:17:04 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: Resnova maxima Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 18:07:58 -0700 Bob, That’s a great specimen, and looks really well grown congrats . Mike San Diego On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 11:01 AM Robert Lauf via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I got this cool plant from my buddy Jeff T., a fellow member of the PBS > Tenn Delegation. Another species that has taken the scenic tour of > Taxonomy Hell, but a nice plant no matter what we choose to call it. Altho > the blooms are a bit disorganized, the foliage is really attractive. The > wiki indicated that this species and its relatives can be propagated via > leaf cuttings, and I have some pieces currently rooting. I'll post some > details at a later date when they have made more progress, but in the > meanwhile, attached is a picture of the whole plant with three flower > spikes in various stages. I've tried pollinating it but it seems to be > self-sterile. > Bob Zone 7 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Resnova maxima.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 4693623 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/attachments/20220327/84d2e235/attachment.jpg > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 29 Mar 2022 22:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <8E5E003B-C670-4937-A996-3FB5F0C3EA6A@gmail.com> From: Chris McDaniel via pbs Subject: Resnova maxima Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:47:56 -0700 Under what conditions do you grow your Resnova? I have some two-year bulbs that aren’t exactly thriving. Chris Sent from the garden _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 29 Mar 2022 20:17:06 -0700 Message-Id: From: Marc Rosenblum via pbs Subject: Chileflora status? Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 20:05:19 -0700 On 2/21/2022 12:12 PM, Lee Poulsen via pbs wrote: > I placed orders for seeds from Chileflora last year in May and July and got both orders. (Except for Zephyra, which I really wanted, but I guess they were out of, although the website let me order it.) I also got an email from Michail himself in June. But since I haven’t contacted Chileflora since then, I don’t know about anything what may have happened recently. > > --Lee Poulsen > Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a > Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m > Last Friday, I put an order in my cart and E-mailer Michael that I would not pay for it unless I heard from him. He E-mailed me today so I sent him my permit & labels and paid for my order. I will post an update when/ if I receive it. Marc >> On Feb 20, 2022, at 11:25 AM, Cody H via pbs wrote: >> >> Thanks Diane, >> >> I emailed rareplants.de and they said they have also not heard back from >> Michail in several months and don’t know why. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <1454873552.93899.1648619423745@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: Resnova maxima Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 05:50:23 +0000 (UTC) Potted in a mix of about 50:50 promix:perlite with the bulb mostly exposed.  It retains the old leaves so I never allowed it to completely dry out during winter.  It's in the greenhouse toward the back so the light isn't really intense (less than where the Lachenalias are, for instance).  Winter night temps average in the low 50s on that bench.  When it started to sprout I increased watering.  In summer I have misters come on at noon for ten minutes and on hot days the greenhouse easily gets to 100 and sometimes higher; all the water compensates for being too lazy to put up shade cloth. The whole greenhouse gets periodic feeding from around April to October using a hose-end applicator, alternating between 10-10-10 and 10-50-10 every few weeks if I think of it. In my first experiment with leaf cuttings, I didn't want to sacrifice new growth, so I took two of the older leaves intending to do one with Dip n Grow and the other with Clonex gel.  But I think the Clonex leaf was a little rattier than the other, so it all died and I don't want to blame the Clonex.  The other pieces are developing roots, so I recently removed a new leaf and used Dip n Grow, and the cuttings look really good but are not yet rooting.  I've started some more diabolical experiments today and will report any results in due course. Note that Jeff Thomas brought me this plant last year and I just put it on the bench and let it grow.  If he has further insights as to his planting strategy or how it performed in his very different setup, he can chime in. This was likely more than you wanted to know, but I hope it answered your questions.  It strikes me as a pretty trouble-free plant. Bob On Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 01:08:39 AM EDT, Chris McDaniel via pbs wrote: Under what conditions do you grow your Resnova?  I have some two-year bulbs that aren’t exactly thriving. Chris Sent from the garden _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: