So I was bad when I donated the bulbs of this species and didn’t check the name on World Flora Online, something I do for all the seed donated to the SX. Most major botanical gardens such as Kew belong to WFO which is generally considered the most up to date source on plant names. It’s the one I was instructed to use for the SX. Here is the page for the scilla in question https://wfoplantlist.org/plant-list/taxon/… <https://wfoplantlist.org/plant-list/taxon/…>. It appears what happened is that Boiss thought it distinct enough from the garden variety S. verna to deserve its own species name. Current taxonomists disagree, possibly due to genetic studies, and consider it just a subspecies of verna but they did preserve the name Boiss bestowed on it as a subspecies name. So the bottom line is, until the next PhD student does a dissertation on the Scilla verna tribe, we should be referring to this plant as Scilla verna ssp. ramburei. I think it’s probably best if we generally accept WFO as our PBS authority so we have some consistency in the matter. We need to accept some source as authoritative or we’ll have a real naming mess on our hands and people won’t have an idea what they’re getting. When the plant’s name has been changed radically from what people generally know I put the old name in parentheses on the seed lists. Jan Jeddeloh > On Sep 27, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > A plant being offered in the current BX is one that I grew under the name Scilla ramburei. At one point that was correct. The taxonomists now seem to think it should be a subspecies of Scilla verna, but how to spell it is confusing. Jim McKenney if he were still alive could probably help. I see on IPNI that it was published as Scilla ramburei, although Plants of the World Online spells it as Scilla ramburii and IPNI also has the spelling Scilla verna ssp. ramburii. World Flora Online has Scilla ramburei as a synonym for Scilla verna subsp. ramburei. Any experts out there to explain what spelling we should use? > > From IPNI > > Scilla ramburei Boiss., Elench. Pl. Nov. 86 (1838). > Replaced synonym of > Scilla verna var. major Boiss., Voy. Bot. Espagne 2: 613 (1845). > Replaced synonym of > Scilla verna var. iberica Maire, Bull. Soc. Hist. Nat. Afrique N. 26: 232 (1935). > > > Scilla ramburii var. albiflora A.Fern. & J.G.García, Bol. Soc. Brot. sér. 2, 21: 7 (1947). > Scilla ramburii var. intermedia A.Fern. & J.G.García, Bol. Soc. Brot. sér. 2, 21: 7 (1947). > Scilla verna subspec. ramburii (Boiss.) K.Richt., Pl. Eur. 1: 220 (1890). > > From World Flora Online: > > Scilla ramburei Boiss. > Elench. Pl. Nov. : 86 (1838) > status:///Synonym/ of Scilla verna subsp. ramburei (Boiss.) K.Richt. > > From Plants of the World Online: > Scilla ramburii Boiss. > First published in Elench. Pl. Nov.: 86 (1838) > This species is a synonym of Scilla verna subsp. ramburii > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum https://… _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…