From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 02 Jun 2023 06:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <71d71397-d866-a79f-5214-12f85b2fb8b2@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling via pbs Subject: Rhodohypoxis 'Hinky Pinky' Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 14:04:15 +0100 Hi, Can anyone help with this question: " I am trying to find information regarding Rhodohypoxis 'Hinky Pinky' which our earliest record has as offered by Sheila Tuicker of The Flower Bower Somerset UK in 2004. Could you please let us know if you have any informaiton as to who introduced this cultivar and when it may have been introduced. Kind regards Liz Edwards Plant Conservation Officer Plant Heritage " Reply here and I'll forward any useful replies to Liz. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 02 Jun 2023 12:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Lorena Gorsche via pbs Subject: Rhodohypoxis 'Hinky Pinky' Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 11:53:33 -0700 Carmans Nursery in Gillroy may have some historical information. Nancy is a third generation nursery owner. Her dad, Ed Carman has sold Rhodohypoxis many years before his passing. Carman’s Nursery has sold unusual plants for generations. nancy@carmansnursery.com Nancy Schramm owner Lorena Gorsche in Lake Oswego, Or. the weather is sunny. 67° and warming up. On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 6:04 AM David Pilling via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone help with this question: > > " > I am trying to find information regarding Rhodohypoxis 'Hinky Pinky' > which our earliest record has as offered by Sheila Tuicker of The Flower > Bower Somerset UK in 2004. Could you please let us know if you have any > informaiton as to who introduced this cultivar and when it may have been > introduced. > > Kind regards > > Liz Edwards > Plant Conservation Officer > Plant Heritage > > > " > > Reply here and I'll forward any useful replies to Liz. > > > -- > David Pilling > www.davidpilling.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 08 Jun 2023 13:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <000901d99a41$b9e318c0$2da94a40$@hansennursery.com> From: R Hansen via pbs Subject: Bulb Garden is now searchable Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 12:45:05 -0700 Many thanks to David Pilling, our PBS web site manager, for making the Bulb Garden issues searchable!. I think this will make it much easier for everyone to find specific information in our journals. Here's the link: https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/TheBulbGarden I'd appreciate some feedback. If you have any difficulty searching let one of the board or especially David know what your specific problem is. Happy searching! Robin Hansen President - PBS Coquille, OR - low 60s, nice breeze, need rain -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 08 Jun 2023 17:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Leigh Blake via pbs Subject: Bulb Garden is now searchable Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2023 16:44:27 -0700 What a TREAT!! I'm saving these issues...This will be delightful reading!! Happy Spring to all of you... Leigh Blake, Trail, Oregon member of North American Rock garden Society, Pacific Coast Iris, and Thank you!!! We have various Erythroniums, Calochortus tolmeii, and Brodiaea...and others native on our land... On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 12:45 PM R Hansen via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Many thanks to David Pilling, our PBS web site manager, for making the Bulb > Garden issues searchable!. I think this will make it much easier for > everyone to find specific information in our journals. > > Here's the link: > > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/TheBulbGarden > > I'd appreciate some feedback. If you have any difficulty searching let one > of the board or especially David know what your specific problem is. > > Happy searching! > > Robin Hansen > > President - PBS > > Coquille, OR - low 60s, nice breeze, need rain > > > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 09 Jun 2023 08:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs Subject: Request for Donations for US BX open until June 20, 2023 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 10:55:39 -0400 All: The donation window for the next 2023 US BX is now open until June 20 (if you need additional time, kindly advise). *Please read below carefully and do not reply to this email thread, thanks!* I am ready to accept donations of clean, healthy bulbs at this time. I am not requiring that donors pre-package the donations in ready-to-go packets at this time; I find it easier and more effective to do this myself according to demand and realize not everyone has time to sort and separate, other than species. I will need you to at least label the bag or box to easily identify the bulbs. Each donor will be credited the postage for the donation or a minimum of $5. Feel free to include comments or instructions for your donated items, most of us need some help with new items to our collection. Kindly send your donations to me at: Bridget Wosczyna 731 Furnace Road Morgantown PA 19543 Please be sure to send me an email advising that you have sent the bulbs so that I may keep an eye on my mailbox. Email me at bulbexpbs@gmail.com with any questions. Thanks in advance! Bridget _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 10 Jun 2023 21:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <6DC0B606-009B-4109-A246-0079A2C52430@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Brazil Plants Seed Club Participation Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 21:12:46 -0700 For several years PBS has purchased an institutional membership for $250 a year in Brazil Plants Club, a venture run by Mauro Peixoto in Brazil. Our membership entitled us to 24 seed packets three times per year. I have been ordering seed each time Mauro posted a new seed list and dividing the packet contents up for our seed exchange, a service that has been appreciated by our members. Unfortunately we now need to discontinue our membership in Brazil Plants. PBS is caught between US and Brazilian seed import and export rules. The US requires imported seed be sent with a Small Lots of Seed permit affixed to the package. The exporter is responsible for putting the sticker on the package. These stickers direct the seed to an agricultural inspection station where the seed is inspected and then forwarded on to the recipient. I have a Small Lots of Seed Permit which I have offered to Mauro to use. He has declined this offer. As a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization we must abide by the law. Unfortunately we now need to discontinue our membership in Brazil Plants. PBS is caught between US and Brazilian seed import and export rules. The US requires imported seed be sent with a Small Lots of Seed permit affixed to the package. The exporter is responsible for putting the sticker on the package. These stickers direct the seed to an agricultural inspection station where the seed is inspected and then forwarded on to the recipient. I have a Small Lots of Seed Permit which I have offered to Mauro to use. As a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization we must abide by the law and use this permit.. He has declined to use the Small Lots Permit because if he did he would run into other issues with the Brazilian authorities. As you can see we are caught been conflicting bureaucratic requirements. I will say that the free exchange of seed throughout the world has gotten much harder the last few years. Regulations are increasing worldwide and causing issues for many plant societies. Great Britain and the EU now require phytosanitary permits to import seed much to the chagrin of their plant loving citizens. Mauro does offer individual memberships. You can contact him at brazilplants@gmail.com for more information. If you are interested in obtaining a Small Lots of Seed Permit I recommend you check out the North American Rock Garden Society website https://www.nargs.org/small-lots-seed. NARGS walks you through the whole process. If you have any questions please email me at seedyjan1@gmail.com. Jan _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <3841C1A3-3C2A-48FD-9CC4-08D710A33E18@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Seed Exchange 13 now open for orders Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:28:37 -0700 Seed Exchange 13 is now open for orders until June 20 at 5pm PDT. You must be a paid up PBS member to order seed. Non-members may not order seed. Members in arrears for past SX/BX may not order seed. I check. This list includes our final offering of seeds from Mauro Peixoto’s Brazil Plants. Most of this seed is in very short supply, in many cases I was only able to divide the seed into two or three packets. I try to allocate this seed fairly. I will do a separate posting of notes sent to me by some donors, particularly Michael Mace our moraea donor. This information was too much to include on the spreadsheet. I advise a least skimming the notes to see if there is additional information about the seed you are ordering. Some donors have large collections of a specific genus. Unless stated that the seed is hand pollinated (HP) you should assume there is a possibility of hybridization. I will randomize the order and then fill one or two requests per person. After filling everyone’s top requests I will then go back through the orders and fill the rest of the requests. This gives more people a chance to get some of the rarer seed and prevents the top few from getting it all. Any order submitted by the deadline has an equal chance of being filled first. All orders should be submitted to seedyjan1@gmail.com with “SX 13” in the subject line. Do not post your orders to the list! The packet labels do not include additional information such as color, parents etc. You’ll need to transfer that information from the list. Donor information is also available from the list. In most cases the list now includes the number of packets available and if extra seed is available to make additional packets. Rules for ordering Your name, address, and email should be listed first on your order. Give your address just like you would on an envelope. Don’t string it across a line; I can’t tell what goes on what line. This is particularly important for foreign addresses. For example: Sue Bulbcrazy 2654 Bulbnut Ln Bulbnutsville, OR 92013 suebulbcrazy@ggmail.com Seed is $2 per packet. Your bill will reflect postage credit for any previous SX submissions. Domestic postage will be charged at $4 per order. All previous orders shipped for under $4 to slightly over $4 per padded envelope so I am standardizing postage at $4 per envelope for all domestic orders. The extra over the postage costs will help pay for the mailing envelopes. Foreign orders will be charged at cost. You will receive a bill in your envelope which you can pay online at https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?page=membership List your 15 first choices vertically in numeric order. For example: 13 Narcissus bulbocodium 14 Narcissus cantabricus 15 Romulea rosea I must have both the seed number and name! Unless you tell me differently I will assume you’ll accept seed from a different donor if seed from your first choice donor is sold out. List your alternates in order of preference. You can also include notes to help me pull seeds that will make you happy. For example; “any gladiolus seed ok as alternate”. If you don’t list alternates I will only send the first choices I have available. I am not limiting people to 15 packets but if you want extras I will process the amount in excess of 15 packets after I am done filling the other orders. No seed orders from countries that require a phytosanitary certificate. New Zealand orders are at your own risk for postage costs. As best I can tell my last order to New Zealand did not get through. It is important to follow the ordering rules. Orders that don’t, and drive me crazy trying to fill them, may be put at the bottom of the stack! Don’t make me do that. Contact me with any questions about the SX procedure, but not about the offerings, at seedyjan1@gmail.com . Questions about germination or the suitability of the seed for your climate should be posted on the forum. Now to remember how to actually post the seed list. Jan _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Notes for Seed Exchange 13 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:39:18 -0700 Notes for SX 13 Eleftherios Dariotis is a Greek plantsman. You can see his seed list here. https://www.mediterraneanseedsandbulbs.com Moraea notes Moraea are naturally winter growers and expect to be planted and watered in fall as temperatures drop. If they're planted in spring they may rot, or they may germinate and then try almost immediately to go dormant, which kills them. I have tried a few times to plant them in mid-winter, and even that doesn't give them enough time to mature before summer. "Moraea ciliata tall form:" This selection, from the Moraea King Bob Werra, is about 50% taller than the typical M. ciliata, and the flower colors range from bright sky blue to a smoky blue-purple. I can't decide which color I like best. "Moraea villosa form O:" Seeds of the luscious magenta and blue form of the species, found at the extreme northern end of its range near Piketberg. They're easy to grow in my garden but don't seem to persist for a lot of years, so be sure to propagate them when you get the chance. For photos, go here and scroll down to form O: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html About the Moraea hybrids and selections: I usually get only a few seeds from each cross, so it doesn't make sense to offer them individually. Instead, I grouped the seeds into seven mixes. I can't predict exactly what you'll get, because the genetics of Moraea are complex, but odds are it'll be interesting... "Moraea villosa color mix:" These are all from species M. villosa, which has very variable colors. I hand-crossed about 15 different color forms of villosa for this mix. Every plant will be slightly different. To give you an idea of the range of colors, see the photos here: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html "Moraea hybrids - selected bright colors:" This is a mix of crosses between some of my most brightly-colored hybrids, with tepals ranging from purple to orange. Many will look similar to M. villosa, but they'll be even more variable. You probably won't get a lot of spots or stripes from these, although you never know because they're very diverse genetically. "Moraea hybrids - orange with contrasting eyes:" I selected crosses between some of my favorite orange-tepaled hybrids, which generally have blue, black, or sometimes green eyes. The species M. tulbaghensis and M. neopavonia are heavily involved in these crosses. If we're both lucky you'll get some flowers that look a bit like this: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-65.html "Moraea hybrids - spots and streaks:" I crossed some of my favorite hybrids that have spots and stripes on the tepals. I can't promise that you'll get spots on your flowers because the genetics are unpredictable, but these should give you a good shot at it. Parents include MM 17-10a, https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/07/moraea-mm-17-10.html, MM 15-89a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/05/moraea-mm-15-89.html, MM 19-26b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-26.html, and others. "Moraea hybrids - reddish and mauve flowers:" These are offspring from my continuing efforts to breed a truly red hybrid. I doubt you'll get a true red, but you may get oranges, mauves and brick colored flowers like MM 18-234 https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-234.html "Moraea hybrids - bright colors with rings:" Crosses between hybrids that have clear colors, bright eyes, and a contrasting mottled ring around the eye. The parents include some of my favorite hybrids, including MM 18-333c https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-333.html, MM 18-334a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-334.html, and MM 18-312a https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-312.html "Moraea hybrids involving M. insolens:" These are hybrids involving a species that bloomed for me for the first time this year. Don't get too excited; there are only a few seeds, they're very variable in size (which is not a great sign), and their viability is also turning out to be inconsistent. I have no idea what the hybrids will look like, but M. insolens is a beautiful flower: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-insolens.html Notes on Costus spectabilis Costus spectabilis is a tropical geophyte typically growing on the forest floor in dappled sunlight or bright indirect light. It should be grown in a well-draining soil mixture kept moist. Deep pots are a must for this plant. I bring my plants inside during winter dormancy and keep them at 60 degrees F so as not to kill the rhizome. I would suggest referencing Volume 20, Issue 2 of the Bulb Garden for growing information on this rare and beautiful plant. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Paul Machado via pbs Subject: Seed Exchange 13 now open for orders Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:46:32 -0700 Hi Jan, Where is the SX13 list? Thanks, Paul On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 7:28 PM Jan Jeddeloh via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Seed Exchange 13 is now open for orders until June 20 at 5pm PDT. You must > be a paid up PBS member to order seed. Non-members may not order seed. > Members in arrears for past SX/BX may not order seed. I check. > > This list includes our final offering of seeds from Mauro Peixoto’s Brazil > Plants. Most of this seed is in very short supply, in many cases I was > only able to divide the seed into two or three packets. I try to allocate > this seed fairly. I will do a separate posting of notes sent to me by > some donors, particularly Michael Mace our moraea donor. This information > was too much to include on the spreadsheet. I advise a least skimming the > notes to see if there is additional information about the seed you are > ordering. > > Some donors have large collections of a specific genus. Unless stated > that the seed is hand pollinated (HP) you should assume there is a > possibility of hybridization. > > I will randomize the order and then fill one or two requests per person. > After filling everyone’s top requests I will then go back through the > orders and fill the rest of the requests. This gives more people a chance > to get some of the rarer seed and prevents the top few from getting it > all. > > Any order submitted by the deadline has an equal chance of being filled > first. All orders should be submitted to seedyjan1@gmail.com seedyjan1@gmail.com> with “SX 13” in the subject line. Do not post your > orders to the list! > > The packet labels do not include additional information such as color, > parents etc. You’ll need to transfer that information from the list. > Donor information is also available from the list. In most cases the list > now includes the number of packets available and if extra seed is available > to make additional packets. > > Rules for ordering > Your name, address, and email should be listed first on your order. Give > your address just like you would on an envelope. Don’t string it across a > line; I can’t tell what goes on what line. This is particularly important > for foreign addresses. > For example: > Sue Bulbcrazy > 2654 Bulbnut Ln > Bulbnutsville, OR 92013 > suebulbcrazy@ggmail.com > > Seed is $2 per packet. Your bill will reflect postage credit for any > previous SX submissions. Domestic postage will be charged at $4 per > order. All previous orders shipped for under $4 to slightly over $4 per > padded envelope so I am standardizing postage at $4 per envelope for all > domestic orders. The extra over the postage costs will help pay for the > mailing envelopes. Foreign orders will be charged at cost. You will > receive a bill in your envelope which you can pay online at > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?page=membership > > List your 15 first choices vertically in numeric order. For example: > 13 Narcissus bulbocodium > 14 Narcissus cantabricus > 15 Romulea rosea > I must have both the seed number and name! > > Unless you tell me differently I will assume you’ll accept seed from a > different donor if seed from your first choice donor is sold out. > > List your alternates in order of preference. You can also include notes > to help me pull seeds that will make you happy. For example; “any > gladiolus seed ok as alternate”. If you don’t list alternates I will only > send the first choices I have available. I am not limiting people to 15 > packets but if you want extras I will process the amount in excess of 15 > packets after I am done filling the other orders. > > No seed orders from countries that require a phytosanitary certificate. > New Zealand orders are at your own risk for postage costs. As best I can > tell my last order to New Zealand did not get through. > > It is important to follow the ordering rules. Orders that don’t, and > drive me crazy trying to fill them, may be put at the bottom of the stack! > Don’t make me do that. > > Contact me with any questions about the SX procedure, but not about the > offerings, at seedyjan1@gmail.com . > Questions about germination or the suitability of the seed for your climate > should be posted on the forum. > > Now to remember how to actually post the seed list. > > Jan > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <72CBEEE7-9F26-4126-9DE3-8C6127E2D743@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Seed Exchange 13 now open for orders Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:53:04 -0700 Hold yer horses. I’m having trouble getting it posted. > On Jun 16, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul Machado via pbs wrote: > > Hi Jan, > Where is the SX13 list? > Thanks, > Paul > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 7:28 PM Jan Jeddeloh via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> Seed Exchange 13 is now open for orders until June 20 at 5pm PDT. You must >> be a paid up PBS member to order seed. Non-members may not order seed. >> Members in arrears for past SX/BX may not order seed. I check. >> >> This list includes our final offering of seeds from Mauro Peixoto’s Brazil >> Plants. Most of this seed is in very short supply, in many cases I was >> only able to divide the seed into two or three packets. I try to allocate >> this seed fairly. I will do a separate posting of notes sent to me by >> some donors, particularly Michael Mace our moraea donor. This information >> was too much to include on the spreadsheet. I advise a least skimming the >> notes to see if there is additional information about the seed you are >> ordering. >> >> Some donors have large collections of a specific genus. Unless stated >> that the seed is hand pollinated (HP) you should assume there is a >> possibility of hybridization. >> >> I will randomize the order and then fill one or two requests per person. >> After filling everyone’s top requests I will then go back through the >> orders and fill the rest of the requests. This gives more people a chance >> to get some of the rarer seed and prevents the top few from getting it >> all. >> >> Any order submitted by the deadline has an equal chance of being filled >> first. All orders should be submitted to seedyjan1@gmail.com > seedyjan1@gmail.com> with “SX 13” in the subject line. Do not post your >> orders to the list! >> >> The packet labels do not include additional information such as color, >> parents etc. You’ll need to transfer that information from the list. >> Donor information is also available from the list. In most cases the list >> now includes the number of packets available and if extra seed is available >> to make additional packets. >> >> Rules for ordering >> Your name, address, and email should be listed first on your order. Give >> your address just like you would on an envelope. Don’t string it across a >> line; I can’t tell what goes on what line. This is particularly important >> for foreign addresses. >> For example: >> Sue Bulbcrazy >> 2654 Bulbnut Ln >> Bulbnutsville, OR 92013 >> suebulbcrazy@ggmail.com >> >> Seed is $2 per packet. Your bill will reflect postage credit for any >> previous SX submissions. Domestic postage will be charged at $4 per >> order. All previous orders shipped for under $4 to slightly over $4 per >> padded envelope so I am standardizing postage at $4 per envelope for all >> domestic orders. The extra over the postage costs will help pay for the >> mailing envelopes. Foreign orders will be charged at cost. You will >> receive a bill in your envelope which you can pay online at >> https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?page=membership >> >> List your 15 first choices vertically in numeric order. For example: >> 13 Narcissus bulbocodium >> 14 Narcissus cantabricus >> 15 Romulea rosea >> I must have both the seed number and name! >> >> Unless you tell me differently I will assume you’ll accept seed from a >> different donor if seed from your first choice donor is sold out. >> >> List your alternates in order of preference. You can also include notes >> to help me pull seeds that will make you happy. For example; “any >> gladiolus seed ok as alternate”. If you don’t list alternates I will only >> send the first choices I have available. I am not limiting people to 15 >> packets but if you want extras I will process the amount in excess of 15 >> packets after I am done filling the other orders. >> >> No seed orders from countries that require a phytosanitary certificate. >> New Zealand orders are at your own risk for postage costs. As best I can >> tell my last order to New Zealand did not get through. >> >> It is important to follow the ordering rules. Orders that don’t, and >> drive me crazy trying to fill them, may be put at the bottom of the stack! >> Don’t make me do that. >> >> Contact me with any questions about the SX procedure, but not about the >> offerings, at seedyjan1@gmail.com . >> Questions about germination or the suitability of the seed for your climate >> should be posted on the forum. >> >> Now to remember how to actually post the seed list. >> >> Jan >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum latest: >> https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <879B1CD5-A453-45A3-8FC6-F26500024BA8@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Seed Exchange 13 seed list Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 19:56:33 -0700 Seed # Exchange Name Notes Donor Number Overflow 1 13 Achimenes erecta 'Tiny Red' x Self Mauro Peixoto 4 2 13 Albuca concordiana Submitted as Ornithogalum concordianum Bob Lauf 8 3 13 Albuca glandulifera Submitted as Ornithogalum glandulosum Chris Cooper 4 4 13 Albuca spiralis Bob Lauf 8 5 13 Arisaema flavum Yellow, OP Robert Parks 10 Y 6 13 Arisaema tortuosum OP Robert Parks 7 7 13 Cardiocrinum giganteum var. yunnanenense Paul Smith 6 8 13 Colchicum ex 'Dick Trotter' Colchicum 'Oktoberfest' in vicinity. Hybrids possible. Jan Jeddeloh 3 9 13 Costus spectabilis See notes Bern Mlynczak 10 10 13 Cyrtanthus mackenii White x self Mauro Peixoto 3 11 13 Daubenya zeyheri Michael Mace 3 12 13 Erythronium revolutum Jan Jeddeloh 5 Y 13 13 Eucrosia mirabilis Yellow flowered form Rimmer de Vries 8 14 13 Fessia greilhuberi syn. Scilla Jan Jeddeloh 3 15 13 Freesia fucata Chris Cooper 2 16 13 Gladiolus aureus Michael Mace 3 17 13 Gladiolus debilis Michael Mace 5 18 13 Habranthus magnoi Fall 2022 harvest Rimmer de Vries 6 19 13 Hesperantha vaginata Michael Mace 3 20 13 Hippeastrum hyb (johnsonii x elegans) Mauro Peixoto 3 21 13 Hippeastrum blossfeldiae 'Giant' Mauro Peixoto 4 22 13 Hippeastrum calyptratum Paraiso' Mauro Peixoto 4 23 13 Hippeastrum correiense syn. Hippeastrum aulicum var. glaucophyllum 'Luna' Mauro Peixoto 3 24 13 Hippeastrum elegans Mauro Peixoto 4 25 13 Hippeastrum glaucescens 'Ponta Grossa' Mauro Peixoto 3 26 13 Hippeastrum hyb (calyptratum x aulicum) Mauro Peixoto 3 27 13 Hippeastrum hyb (vittatum x ?) Mauro Peixoto 3 28 13 Hippeastrum morelianum 'Extrema' Mauro Peixoto 2 29 13 Hippeastrum morelianum 'Garrafão' Mauro Peixoto 2 30 13 Hippeastrum morelianum 'Grota Funda' Mauro Peixoto 2 31 13 Hippeastrum psittacinum 'Grota Funda' Mauro Peixoto 3 32 13 Hippeastrum puniceum Mauro Peixoto 3 33 13 Hippeastrum striatum 'Petiolatum' Mauro Peixoto 3 34 13 Lachenalia arbuthnotiae Via NARGS seed exchange, see notes Eleftherios Dariotis 5 35 13 Lachenalia ensifolia Chris Cooper 3 36 13 Lachenalia ensifolia subsp. maughanii Chris Cooper 5 37 13 Lachenalia mathewsii Via NARGS seed exchange, see notes Eleftherios Dariotis 5 38 13 Lachenalia mutabilis Chris Cooper 5 39 13 Lachenalia orchioides var. orchioides Submitted as L pustulata Chris Cooper 5 40 13 Lachenalia paucifolia Via NARGS seed exchange, see notes Eleftherios Dariotis 5 41 13 Lachenalia pusilla Chris Cooper 5 42 13 Lachenalia reflexa Bob Lauf 3 43 13 Lachenalia trichophylla Long haired form Bob Lauf 11 44 13 Lachenalia trichophylla Stubble form Bob Lauf 10 45 13 Lachenalia unicolor Chris Cooper 5 46 13 Lachenalia viridiflora Chris Cooper 7 47 13 Lapeirousia arenicola Chris Cooper 4 48 13 Massonia depressa Chris Cooper 4 49 13 Massonia pseudoechinata Chris Cooper 6 50 13 Melasphaerula graminea Ex Terry Smale Rimmer de Vries 7 51 13 Moraea ciliata Tall form, see notes Michael Mace 4 52 13 Moraea hybrids Selected bright colors, see notes Michael Mace 7 53 13 Moraea hybrids Involving M. insolens, see notes Michael Mace 2 54 13 Moraea hybrids Orange with contrasting eyes, see notes Michael Mace 6 55 13 Moraea hybrids Spots and streaks, see notes Michael Mace 7 56 13 Moraea hybrids Reddish and mauve flowers, see notes Michael Mace 4 57 13 Moraea hybrids Bright colors with rings, see notes Michael Mace 10 58 13 Moraea polystachya Chris Cooper 4 59 13 Moraea setifolia Chris Cooper 5 60 13 Moraea simulans See notes Michael Mace 4 61 13 Moraea vegeta Chris Cooper 3 62 13 Moraea villosa Hand pollinated, mixed colors, see notes Michael Mace 5 63 13 Moraea villosa Form "O" from Piketberg, see notes Michael Mace 7 64 13 Narcissus triandrus Labeled var. loiseleurii.. Ex Kurt Vickery seed. HP Jan Jeddeloh 5 65 13 Pelargonium barklyi Harvested 2020 Rimmer de Vries 6 66 13 Pelargonium incrassatum Rare pink form. HP. Combined 2022 and 2023 harvest. Rimmer de Vries 5 67 13 Pelargonium mollicomum Harvested 2020 Rimmer de Vries 3 68 13 Pelargonium ochroleucum Combined 2021 and 2022 harvest Rimmer de Vries 3 69 13 Pelargonium quinquelobatum Ex Eritrea Rimmer de Vries 10 y 70 13 Romulea hantamensis Chris Cooper 4 71 13 Romulea namaquensis Chris Cooper 3 72 13 Romulea pudica Michael Mace 7 73 13 Scilla monophyllos Jan Jeddeloh 3 74 13 Sinningia cardinalis Scarlet red. Needs 1-2 months rest after bloom. Rimmer de Vries 7 Y 75 13 Sinningia glazioviana 'São José de Barreiro' Mauro Peixoto 5 76 13 Sinningia hoehnei Cool season. Name not accepted by World Flora Online. Rimmer de Vries 8 77 13 Sinningia leucotricha x piresiana Need 1-2 months rest after bloom. Traits of both parents. Rimmer de Vries 10 78 13 Sinningia minima Mauro Peixoto 4 79 13 Sinningia schiffneri Mauro Peixoto 4 80 13 Sinningia tubiflora Garden seed. 2021 harvest. OP, Warningii in vicinity. Rimmer de Vries 7 y 81 13 Sinningia warmingii Garden hardy zone 6. Rimmer de Vries 7 Y 82 13 Sparaxis hybrid mix Chris Cooper 2 83 13 Sparaxis metelerkampiae Chris Cooper 3 84 13 Sparaxis parviflora Chris Cooper 5 85 13 Sprekelia formosissima Mauro Peixoto 4 86 13 Tecophilaea cyanocrocus From plants with a fair amount of white in the flowers Jan Jeddeloh 5 87 13 Tritonia dubia Chris Cooper 3 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Jun 2023 22:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <184F4E7A-78F5-4A5D-9736-CB725237FBA5@pacbell.net> From: Jack & Val Myrick via pbs Subject: Notes for Seed Exchange 13 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 21:21:16 -0700 RE: Notes for SX 13 Eleftherios Dariotis is a Greek plantsman. You can see his seed list here. https://www.mediterraneanseedsandbulbs.com Jan, is the above list for reference? I didn’t see his name next to any of the donated seeds. So, how is it connected with our SX 13? Val > On Jun 16, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Jan Jeddeloh via pbs wrote: > > Notes for SX 13 > Eleftherios Dariotis is a Greek plantsman. You can see his seed list here. https://www.mediterraneanseedsandbulbs.com > > Moraea notes > Moraea are naturally winter growers and expect to be planted and watered > in fall as temperatures drop. If they're planted in spring they may rot, or > they may germinate and then try almost immediately to go dormant, which > kills them. I have tried a few times to plant them in mid-winter, and even that doesn't > give them enough time to mature before summer. > > "Moraea ciliata tall form:" This selection, from the Moraea King Bob Werra, is about 50% taller than the typical M. ciliata, and the flower colors range from bright sky blue to a smoky blue-purple. I can't decide which color I like best. > > "Moraea villosa form O:" Seeds of the luscious magenta and blue form of the species, found at the extreme northern end of its range near Piketberg. They're easy to grow in my garden but don't seem to persist for a lot of years, so be sure to propagate them when you get the chance. For photos, go here and scroll down to form O: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html > > About the Moraea hybrids and selections: I usually get only a few seeds from each cross, so it doesn't make sense to offer them individually. Instead, I grouped the seeds into seven mixes. I can't predict exactly what you'll get, because the genetics of Moraea are complex, but odds are it'll be interesting... > > "Moraea villosa color mix:" These are all from species M. villosa, which has very variable colors. I hand-crossed about 15 different color forms of villosa for this mix. Every plant will be slightly different. To give you an idea of the range of colors, see the photos here: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html > > "Moraea hybrids - selected bright colors:" This is a mix of crosses between some of my most brightly-colored hybrids, with tepals ranging from purple to orange. Many will look similar to M. villosa, but they'll be even more variable. You probably won't get a lot of spots or stripes from these, although you never know because they're very diverse genetically. > > "Moraea hybrids - orange with contrasting eyes:" I selected crosses between some of my favorite orange-tepaled hybrids, which generally have blue, black, or sometimes green eyes. The species M. tulbaghensis and M. neopavonia are heavily involved in these crosses. If we're both lucky you'll get some flowers that look a bit like this: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-65.html > > "Moraea hybrids - spots and streaks:" I crossed some of my favorite hybrids that have spots and stripes on the tepals. I can't promise that you'll get spots on your flowers because the genetics are unpredictable, but these should give you a good shot at it. Parents include MM 17-10a, https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/07/moraea-mm-17-10.html, MM 15-89a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/05/moraea-mm-15-89.html, MM 19-26b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-26.html, and others. > > "Moraea hybrids - reddish and mauve flowers:" These are offspring from my continuing efforts to breed a truly red hybrid. I doubt you'll get a true red, but you may get oranges, mauves and brick colored flowers like MM 18-234 https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-234.html > > "Moraea hybrids - bright colors with rings:" Crosses between hybrids that have clear colors, bright eyes, and a contrasting mottled ring around the eye. The parents include some of my favorite hybrids, including MM 18-333c https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-333.html, MM 18-334a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-334.html, and MM 18-312a https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-312.html > > "Moraea hybrids involving M. insolens:" These are hybrids involving a species that bloomed for me for the first time this year. Don't get too excited; there are only a few seeds, they're very variable in size (which is not a great sign), and their viability is also turning out to be inconsistent. I have no idea what the hybrids will look like, but M. insolens is a beautiful flower: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-insolens.html > > Notes on Costus spectabilis > > Costus spectabilis is a tropical geophyte typically growing on the forest floor in dappled sunlight or bright indirect light. It should be grown in a well-draining soil mixture kept moist. Deep pots are a must for this plant. I bring my plants inside during winter dormancy and keep them at 60 degrees F so as not to kill the rhizome. I would suggest referencing Volume 20, Issue 2 of the Bulb Garden for growing information on this rare and beautiful plant. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 16 Jun 2023 23:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Notes for Seed Exchange 13 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 22:27:04 -0700 Look again. He’s there. Jan > On Jun 16, 2023, at 9:21 PM, Jack & Val Myrick via pbs wrote: > > RE: Notes for SX 13 > Eleftherios Dariotis is a Greek plantsman. You can see his seed list here. https://www.mediterraneanseedsandbulbs.com > > Jan, is the above list for reference? I didn’t see his name next to any of the donated seeds. So, how is it connected with our SX 13? > > Val > >> On Jun 16, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Jan Jeddeloh via pbs wrote: >> >> Notes for SX 13 >> Eleftherios Dariotis is a Greek plantsman. You can see his seed list here. https://www.mediterraneanseedsandbulbs.com >> >> Moraea notes >> Moraea are naturally winter growers and expect to be planted and watered >> in fall as temperatures drop. If they're planted in spring they may rot, or >> they may germinate and then try almost immediately to go dormant, which >> kills them. I have tried a few times to plant them in mid-winter, and even that doesn't >> give them enough time to mature before summer. >> >> "Moraea ciliata tall form:" This selection, from the Moraea King Bob Werra, is about 50% taller than the typical M. ciliata, and the flower colors range from bright sky blue to a smoky blue-purple. I can't decide which color I like best. >> >> "Moraea villosa form O:" Seeds of the luscious magenta and blue form of the species, found at the extreme northern end of its range near Piketberg. They're easy to grow in my garden but don't seem to persist for a lot of years, so be sure to propagate them when you get the chance. For photos, go here and scroll down to form O: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html >> >> About the Moraea hybrids and selections: I usually get only a few seeds from each cross, so it doesn't make sense to offer them individually. Instead, I grouped the seeds into seven mixes. I can't predict exactly what you'll get, because the genetics of Moraea are complex, but odds are it'll be interesting... >> >> "Moraea villosa color mix:" These are all from species M. villosa, which has very variable colors. I hand-crossed about 15 different color forms of villosa for this mix. Every plant will be slightly different. To give you an idea of the range of colors, see the photos here: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html >> >> "Moraea hybrids - selected bright colors:" This is a mix of crosses between some of my most brightly-colored hybrids, with tepals ranging from purple to orange. Many will look similar to M. villosa, but they'll be even more variable. You probably won't get a lot of spots or stripes from these, although you never know because they're very diverse genetically. >> >> "Moraea hybrids - orange with contrasting eyes:" I selected crosses between some of my favorite orange-tepaled hybrids, which generally have blue, black, or sometimes green eyes. The species M. tulbaghensis and M. neopavonia are heavily involved in these crosses. If we're both lucky you'll get some flowers that look a bit like this: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-65.html >> >> "Moraea hybrids - spots and streaks:" I crossed some of my favorite hybrids that have spots and stripes on the tepals. I can't promise that you'll get spots on your flowers because the genetics are unpredictable, but these should give you a good shot at it. Parents include MM 17-10a, https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/07/moraea-mm-17-10.html, MM 15-89a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/05/moraea-mm-15-89.html, MM 19-26b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-26.html, and others. >> >> "Moraea hybrids - reddish and mauve flowers:" These are offspring from my continuing efforts to breed a truly red hybrid. I doubt you'll get a true red, but you may get oranges, mauves and brick colored flowers like MM 18-234 https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-234.html >> >> "Moraea hybrids - bright colors with rings:" Crosses between hybrids that have clear colors, bright eyes, and a contrasting mottled ring around the eye. The parents include some of my favorite hybrids, including MM 18-333c https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-333.html, MM 18-334a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-334.html, and MM 18-312a https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-312.html >> >> "Moraea hybrids involving M. insolens:" These are hybrids involving a species that bloomed for me for the first time this year. Don't get too excited; there are only a few seeds, they're very variable in size (which is not a great sign), and their viability is also turning out to be inconsistent. I have no idea what the hybrids will look like, but M. insolens is a beautiful flower: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-insolens.html >> >> Notes on Costus spectabilis >> >> Costus spectabilis is a tropical geophyte typically growing on the forest floor in dappled sunlight or bright indirect light. It should be grown in a well-draining soil mixture kept moist. Deep pots are a must for this plant. I bring my plants inside during winter dormancy and keep them at 60 degrees F so as not to kill the rhizome. I would suggest referencing Volume 20, Issue 2 of the Bulb Garden for growing information on this rare and beautiful plant. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 17 Jun 2023 06:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <16a340ff-e055-02c0-6bbe-3db217a9f047@davidpilling.com> From: David Pilling via pbs Subject: Seed exchange 13 has been posted Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:03:36 +0100 Hi, There is something about the abbreviation for seed exchange which triggers spam filters. We've had a lot of bounces from the list today, I am going to issue a special digest with this post in. You can find details of the exchange on the PBS forum or on the PBS list archive. -- David Pilling www.davidpilling.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 17 Jun 2023 10:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <2124145185.1447939.1687020999234@yahoo.com> From: John bartlett via pbs Subject: SX13 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:56:35 -0400 John Bartlett 381 Long Road Gettysburg PA, 17325. From SX 13 please send me the following: 74. Sinningia cardinalis Scarlet Red, 75. Sinningiaglaziovianus San Jose de Barreiro, 76. Sinningia hoehnei, 77. Sinningia Leucotrache X piersiana, 78. Sinningia minima, 79Sinningia schefflera. Thanks, John Bartlett Sent from Mail for Windows _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 17 Jun 2023 19:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: SX13 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 18:17:40 -0700 Got it. Next time list your choices vertically. Easier fill. Jan > On Jun 17, 2023, at 9:56 AM, John bartlett via pbs wrote: > > John Bartlett > 381 Long Road > Gettysburg > PA, 17325. From SX 13 please send me the following: 74. Sinningia cardinalis Scarlet Red, 75. Sinningiaglaziovianus San Jose de Barreiro, 76. Sinningia hoehnei, 77. Sinningia Leucotrache X piersiana, 78. Sinningia minima, 79Sinningia schefflera. Thanks, John Bartlett > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 17 Jun 2023 21:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <4FFB4535-FDEA-4FB9-B52D-941A3A137FCF@hillkeep.ca> From: Paige Woodward via pbs Subject: Notes for Seed Exchange 13 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 21:02:32 -0700 Jan’s Moraea notes are so specific; I hope they can be conserved within the PBS website. Paige Woodward > On Jun 16, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Jan Jeddeloh via pbs wrote: > > Notes for SX 13 > Eleftherios Dariotis is a Greek plantsman. You can see his seed list here. https://www.mediterraneanseedsandbulbs.com > > Moraea notes > Moraea are naturally winter growers and expect to be planted and watered > in fall as temperatures drop. If they're planted in spring they may rot, or > they may germinate and then try almost immediately to go dormant, which > kills them. I have tried a few times to plant them in mid-winter, and even that doesn't > give them enough time to mature before summer. > > "Moraea ciliata tall form:" This selection, from the Moraea King Bob Werra, is about 50% taller than the typical M. ciliata, and the flower colors range from bright sky blue to a smoky blue-purple. I can't decide which color I like best. > > "Moraea villosa form O:" Seeds of the luscious magenta and blue form of the species, found at the extreme northern end of its range near Piketberg. They're easy to grow in my garden but don't seem to persist for a lot of years, so be sure to propagate them when you get the chance. For photos, go here and scroll down to form O: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html > > About the Moraea hybrids and selections: I usually get only a few seeds from each cross, so it doesn't make sense to offer them individually. Instead, I grouped the seeds into seven mixes. I can't predict exactly what you'll get, because the genetics of Moraea are complex, but odds are it'll be interesting... > > "Moraea villosa color mix:" These are all from species M. villosa, which has very variable colors. I hand-crossed about 15 different color forms of villosa for this mix. Every plant will be slightly different. To give you an idea of the range of colors, see the photos here: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html > > "Moraea hybrids - selected bright colors:" This is a mix of crosses between some of my most brightly-colored hybrids, with tepals ranging from purple to orange. Many will look similar to M. villosa, but they'll be even more variable. You probably won't get a lot of spots or stripes from these, although you never know because they're very diverse genetically. > > "Moraea hybrids - orange with contrasting eyes:" I selected crosses between some of my favorite orange-tepaled hybrids, which generally have blue, black, or sometimes green eyes. The species M. tulbaghensis and M. neopavonia are heavily involved in these crosses. If we're both lucky you'll get some flowers that look a bit like this: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-65.html > > "Moraea hybrids - spots and streaks:" I crossed some of my favorite hybrids that have spots and stripes on the tepals. I can't promise that you'll get spots on your flowers because the genetics are unpredictable, but these should give you a good shot at it. Parents include MM 17-10a, https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/07/moraea-mm-17-10.html, MM 15-89a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/05/moraea-mm-15-89.html, MM 19-26b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-26.html, and others. > > "Moraea hybrids - reddish and mauve flowers:" These are offspring from my continuing efforts to breed a truly red hybrid. I doubt you'll get a true red, but you may get oranges, mauves and brick colored flowers like MM 18-234 https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-234.html > > "Moraea hybrids - bright colors with rings:" Crosses between hybrids that have clear colors, bright eyes, and a contrasting mottled ring around the eye. The parents include some of my favorite hybrids, including MM 18-333c https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-333.html, MM 18-334a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-334.html, and MM 18-312a https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-312.html > > "Moraea hybrids involving M. insolens:" These are hybrids involving a species that bloomed for me for the first time this year. Don't get too excited; there are only a few seeds, they're very variable in size (which is not a great sign), and their viability is also turning out to be inconsistent. I have no idea what the hybrids will look like, but M. insolens is a beautiful flower: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-insolens.html > > Notes on Costus spectabilis > > Costus spectabilis is a tropical geophyte typically growing on the forest floor in dappled sunlight or bright indirect light. It should be grown in a well-draining soil mixture kept moist. Deep pots are a must for this plant. I bring my plants inside during winter dormancy and keep them at 60 degrees F so as not to kill the rhizome. I would suggest referencing Volume 20, Issue 2 of the Bulb Garden for growing information on this rare and beautiful plant. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <0D9182F2-F7EE-4122-92AA-740E2B10FB7B@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: Notes for Seed Exchange 13 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 10:44:54 -0700 Paige, they are up on the website in the Seed and Bulb Exchange forum. As far as I know they’ll be there as long as the website’s up. These are actually not my notes, they are cut and pasted from what Michael Mace sent me. I thought they were valuable for anyone getting his seed. Jan Jeddeloh > On Jun 17, 2023, at 9:02 PM, Paige Woodward via pbs wrote: > > Jan’s Moraea notes are so specific; I hope they can be conserved within the PBS website. > > Paige Woodward > > >> On Jun 16, 2023, at 7:39 PM, Jan Jeddeloh via pbs wrote: >> >> Notes for SX 13 >> Eleftherios Dariotis is a Greek plantsman. You can see his seed list here. https://www.mediterraneanseedsandbulbs.com >> >> Moraea notes >> Moraea are naturally winter growers and expect to be planted and watered >> in fall as temperatures drop. If they're planted in spring they may rot, or >> they may germinate and then try almost immediately to go dormant, which >> kills them. I have tried a few times to plant them in mid-winter, and even that doesn't >> give them enough time to mature before summer. >> >> "Moraea ciliata tall form:" This selection, from the Moraea King Bob Werra, is about 50% taller than the typical M. ciliata, and the flower colors range from bright sky blue to a smoky blue-purple. I can't decide which color I like best. >> >> "Moraea villosa form O:" Seeds of the luscious magenta and blue form of the species, found at the extreme northern end of its range near Piketberg. They're easy to grow in my garden but don't seem to persist for a lot of years, so be sure to propagate them when you get the chance. For photos, go here and scroll down to form O: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html >> >> About the Moraea hybrids and selections: I usually get only a few seeds from each cross, so it doesn't make sense to offer them individually. Instead, I grouped the seeds into seven mixes. I can't predict exactly what you'll get, because the genetics of Moraea are complex, but odds are it'll be interesting... >> >> "Moraea villosa color mix:" These are all from species M. villosa, which has very variable colors. I hand-crossed about 15 different color forms of villosa for this mix. Every plant will be slightly different. To give you an idea of the range of colors, see the photos here: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2012/06/moraea-villosa-color-forms.html >> >> "Moraea hybrids - selected bright colors:" This is a mix of crosses between some of my most brightly-colored hybrids, with tepals ranging from purple to orange. Many will look similar to M. villosa, but they'll be even more variable. You probably won't get a lot of spots or stripes from these, although you never know because they're very diverse genetically. >> >> "Moraea hybrids - orange with contrasting eyes:" I selected crosses between some of my favorite orange-tepaled hybrids, which generally have blue, black, or sometimes green eyes. The species M. tulbaghensis and M. neopavonia are heavily involved in these crosses. If we're both lucky you'll get some flowers that look a bit like this: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-65.html >> >> "Moraea hybrids - spots and streaks:" I crossed some of my favorite hybrids that have spots and stripes on the tepals. I can't promise that you'll get spots on your flowers because the genetics are unpredictable, but these should give you a good shot at it. Parents include MM 17-10a, https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/07/moraea-mm-17-10.html, MM 15-89a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2020/05/moraea-mm-15-89.html, MM 19-26b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-mm-19-26.html, and others. >> >> "Moraea hybrids - reddish and mauve flowers:" These are offspring from my continuing efforts to breed a truly red hybrid. I doubt you'll get a true red, but you may get oranges, mauves and brick colored flowers like MM 18-234 https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-234.html >> >> "Moraea hybrids - bright colors with rings:" Crosses between hybrids that have clear colors, bright eyes, and a contrasting mottled ring around the eye. The parents include some of my favorite hybrids, including MM 18-333c https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-333.html, MM 18-334a and b https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-334.html, and MM 18-312a https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/03/moraea-mm-18-312.html >> >> "Moraea hybrids involving M. insolens:" These are hybrids involving a species that bloomed for me for the first time this year. Don't get too excited; there are only a few seeds, they're very variable in size (which is not a great sign), and their viability is also turning out to be inconsistent. I have no idea what the hybrids will look like, but M. insolens is a beautiful flower: https://growingcoolplants.blogspot.com/2022/12/moraea-insolens.html >> >> Notes on Costus spectabilis >> >> Costus spectabilis is a tropical geophyte typically growing on the forest floor in dappled sunlight or bright indirect light. It should be grown in a well-draining soil mixture kept moist. Deep pots are a must for this plant. I bring my plants inside during winter dormancy and keep them at 60 degrees F so as not to kill the rhizome. I would suggest referencing Volume 20, Issue 2 of the Bulb Garden for growing information on this rare and beautiful plant. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:17:01 -0700 Message-Id: From: King Onyx via pbs Subject: Iris mutant Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:18:58 +0200 I just wanted to post this Iris x hollandica I picked on a flower field, can anyone explain why its stem is so weirdly twisted too? Image links: https://ibb.co/xCb8vmz https://ibb.co/RDS9Yjv https://ibb.co/CV6vPRD https://ibb.co/4WnHMsm https://ibb.co/HFdrJ23 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb via pbs Subject: Iris mutant Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 11:58:01 -0400 That's pretty wild! I've never seen anything like that and I've been growing irises obsessively for 25 years. Dennis in Cincinnati On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:42 AM King Onyx via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I just wanted to post this Iris x hollandica I picked on a flower field, > can anyone explain why its stem is so weirdly twisted too? > > Image links: > https://ibb.co/xCb8vmz > https://ibb.co/RDS9Yjv > https://ibb.co/CV6vPRD > https://ibb.co/4WnHMsm > https://ibb.co/HFdrJ23 > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 19:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <842134827.1517800.1687310886386@mail.yahoo.com> From: Mary Gorton via pbs Subject: Notes for Seed Exchange 13 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 01:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Am I a fully paid up member for the seed list purpose? Mary Gorton _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 19:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Kipp McMichael via pbs Subject: Iris mutant Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 01:40:53 +0000 Greetings, This looks like meristem damage rather than a "mutant" - it appears to be 2 conjoined bloom stems that grew upward together. The resulting flower would have ~double the usual petals and the twisting is a side effect of the conjoined stems. -| on behalf of Dennis Kramb via pbs Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 8:58 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Dennis Kramb Subject: Re: [pbs] Iris mutant That's pretty wild! I've never seen anything like that and I've been growing irises obsessively for 25 years. 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  Mary Gorton  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <100827085.1537646.1687314850309@mail.yahoo.com> From: Mary Gorton via pbs Subject: Notes for Seed Exchange 13 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 02:34:10 +0000 (UTC) what was 490?  seeds?  bulbs?  when?  what were the items?   On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 09:58:28 PM EDT, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: Mary I have you owing on BX 490 Gorton $7 Arnold     On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 09:28:15 PM EDT, Mary Gorton via pbs wrote:    Am I a fully paid up member for the seed list purpose?   Mary Gorton  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent   _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 20:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <2051018249.1532791.1687315469920@mail.yahoo.com> From: Mary Gorton via pbs Subject: Notes for Seed Exchange 13 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 02:44:29 +0000 (UTC) what was 490?  seeds?  bulbs?  when?  what were the items?   I see this was a bulb exchange.  To what address was it mailed?  I am now at 414 McKennan's Church Rd.  Wilmington Delaware 19808 On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 09:58:28 PM EDT, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote: Mary I have you owing on BX 490 Gorton $7 Arnold     On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 09:28:15 PM EDT, Mary Gorton via pbs wrote:    Am I a fully paid up member for the seed list purpose?   Mary Gorton  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent   _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 21:17:01 -0700 Message-Id: From: Paige Woodward via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 21:15:49 -0700 How are the wild lilies of the western US faring this year? Anyone been out hiking? Anyone have sources of information to suggest? Over on the Lilium list, friends reported that on brief forays in N California and S Oregon in the past couple of years, lilies were gone or far between at familiar sites, the terrain often clearcut (possibly for firebreaks) or otherwise devastated. Wild lilies bloom around now, if they’re going to. Several times during the past couple of decades there’ve been Lily Chases, in which small groups of worshipers visited wild lilies and photographed them, travelling in convoy through California, Oregon and Washington State. The sites were scouted in advance because every year is different. The past couple of years have been very different indeed, however. There won’t be a formal Lily Chase this summer. I wonder if there’ll ever be again. Paige Woodward _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 22:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: King Onyx via pbs Subject: Iris mutant Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 06:43:03 +0200 Did you ever see a iris like this? How would a damaged meristem look like in this case? Is it possible to strain out this trait theoretically? _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 20 Jun 2023 22:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: "J. Kemper Ruth via pbs" Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 21:52:23 -0700 Found in Big Sur about a week ago. I probably saw hundreds of plants but only 2 blooms. > On Jun 20, 2023, at 21:16, Paige Woodward via pbs wrote: > How are the wild lilies of the western US faring this year? Anyone been out hiking? Anyone have sources of information to suggest? > > Over on the Lilium list, friends reported that on brief forays in N California and S Oregon in the past couple of years, lilies were gone or far between at familiar sites, the terrain often clearcut (possibly for firebreaks) or otherwise devastated. > > Wild lilies bloom around now, if they’re going to. Several times during the past couple of decades there’ve been Lily Chases, in which small groups of worshipers visited wild lilies and photographed them, travelling in convoy through California, Oregon and Washington State. The sites were scouted in advance because every year is different. > > The past couple of years have been very different indeed, however. There won’t be a formal Lily Chase this summer. I wonder if there’ll ever be again. > > Paige Woodward > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <6538FC33-4EA8-445B-9EEB-607FD2FD5E43@hillkeep.ca> From: Paige Woodward via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 09:25:55 -0700 Hi, Ruth. Thanks for our reply. What species diid you see at Big Sur? I don’t see photos on the pbs list for technical reasons; if you sent photos, could you possibly forward copies to me at paige@hillkeep.ca? Hoping you can, Paige _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Dennis Kramb via pbs Subject: Agave bulliana (used to be Prochnyanthes mexicana) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 12:45:33 -0400 I don't usually have problems germinating Agave seeds, but I imported a small portion of Agave bulliana from Germany and my first attempt (using the wet paper towel technique) failed. I only have a few seeds left. Can anyone suggest a technique? Does mechanical scarification help? Or is it likely that these seeds are just duds? Dennis in Cincinnati _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <682EEF0B-FDFF-4F7C-B0D5-3B201953CAD9@hillkeep.ca> From: Paige Woodward via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 10:00:53 -0700 Boing. J. Kemper Ruth, if I have addressed you backward — assuming that Ruth was your first name, not your last — I apologize. Please tell us what lily species you saw at Big Sur. Paige Woodward > On Jun 21, 2023, at 9:25 AM, Paige Woodward via pbs wrote: > > > Hi, Ruth. Thanks for our reply. What species diid you see at Big Sur? I don’t see photos on the pbs list for technical reasons; if you sent photos, could you possibly forward copies to me at paige@hillkeep.ca? > > Hoping you can, Paige > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 21 Jun 2023 12:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <47dd5013-4566-6b73-c31b-8277284b3eb2@mcn.org> From: Mary Sue Ittner via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 11:24:18 -0700 With rainfall this year more like it has been in the past Lilium maritimum is having an outstanding year. I'm happy since it is considered rare that it is reseeding and flowering in new places in my garden.  The logging companies do not allow people to walk on their properties so I can't give a report on whether any are returning in areas they have logged. Mary Sue _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 21 Jun 2023 13:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <01B046A1-0D91-49AD-8B12-9C0778335763@hillkeep.ca> From: Paige Woodward via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 12:17:40 -0700 So happy to hear this, Mary Sue, amid speculation that some WNA lilies are nearing extinction. I have grown maritimum from garden seeds you shared. Gratefully, Paige > On Jun 21, 2023, at 11:24 AM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs wrote: > > With rainfall this year more like it has been in the past Lilium maritimum is having an outstanding year. I'm happy since it is considered rare that it is reseeding and flowering in new places in my garden. The logging companies do not allow people to walk on their properties so I can't give a report on whether any are returning in areas they have logged. > > Mary Sue > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 21 Jun 2023 13:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jim Benson via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 19:44:50 +0000 From Brookings OR We have had a fine year of Coastal Iris blooming yellow, blue and violet along drive way under birch trees and mail boxes. Better this year than last as had more spring rain. -----------------------------------------From: "Paige Woodward via pbs" To: "Pacific Bulb Society PBS" Cc: "Paige Woodward" Sent: Tuesday June 20 2023 9:16:04PM Subject: [pbs] Lilies in the W US this year How are the wild lilies of the western US faring this year? Anyone been out hiking? Anyone have sources of information to suggest? Over on the Lilium list, friends reported that on brief forays in N California and S Oregon in the past couple of years, lilies were gone or far between at familiar sites, the terrain often clearcut (possibly for firebreaks) or otherwise devastated. Wild lilies bloom around now, if they’re going to. Several times during the past couple of decades there’ve been Lily Chases, in which small groups of worshipers visited wild lilies and photographed them, travelling in convoy through California, Oregon and Washington State. The sites were scouted in advance because every year is different. The past couple of years have been very different indeed, however. There won’t be a formal Lily Chase this summer. I wonder if there’ll ever be again. Paige Woodward _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs /> Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent /> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Wed, 21 Jun 2023 14:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Paige Woodward via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2023 13:49:12 -0700 Hi, Jim. What species of Iris? Tenax, perhaps, or douglasiana? If you sent pictures, I can’t view them (boring, sorry). Paige > On Jun 21, 2023, at 12:44 PM, Jim Benson via pbs wrote: > > From Brookings OR We have had a fine year of Coastal Iris blooming > yellow, blue and violet along drive way under birch trees and mail > boxes. Better this year than last as had more spring rain. > > -----------------------------------------From: "Paige Woodward via > pbs" > > To: "Pacific Bulb Society PBS" > Cc: "Paige Woodward" > Sent: Tuesday June 20 2023 9:16:04PM > Subject: [pbs] Lilies in the W US this year > > How are the wild lilies of the western US faring this year? Anyone > been out hiking? Anyone have sources of information to suggest? > > Over on the Lilium list, friends reported that on brief forays in N > California and S Oregon in the past couple of years, lilies were gone > or far between at familiar sites, the terrain often clearcut (possibly > for firebreaks) or otherwise devastated. > > Wild lilies bloom around now, if they’re going to. Several times > during the past couple of decades there’ve been Lily Chases, in > which small groups of worshipers visited wild lilies and photographed > them, travelling in convoy through California, Oregon and Washington > State. The sites were scouted in advance because every year is > different. > > The past couple of years have been very different indeed, however. > There won’t be a formal Lily Chase this summer. I wonder if > there’ll ever be again. > > Paige Woodward > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > /> Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum > latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > /> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 22 Jun 2023 01:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <01df01d9a4dc$60776ca0$216645e0$@gmail.com> From: Michael Mace via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 00:37:19 -0700 Paige wrote: > Anyone have sources of information to suggest? Paige, I think one source of data would be iNaturalist.org. You can select a species or genus, choose a section of the map, and look at how many photos were posted in that part of the map in each year. There have been a lot of Lilium sightings in northern California this year, but I do not know how it compares to other years. Here's an example of what you can do. Follow the link below and croll the list on the right side of the window to see the dates on the flower reports. https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?nelat=38.46895423097922&nelng=-122. 56739939114924&place_id=any&subview=map&swlat=38.17266526111745&swlng=-123.3 7970102689142&taxon_id=48928 If your email system breaks that link into several lines, you will need to remove the line breaks to restore the link. Mike San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 22 Jun 2023 13:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <92ECC995-31D9-4833-A73E-E7099C7E2DAC@hillkeep.ca> From: Paige Woodward via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 12:40:05 -0700 Mike, the getline works like a charm. Thank you for this trove! I visited iNaturalist a while ago for taxa on a remote island, found little and turned away. But for Lilium in regions criss-crossed by plant-alert hikers, iNaturalist is helpful, even inspiring. The wonder is how many people are willing to contribute photos and data. Paige > On Jun 22, 2023, at 12:37 AM, Michael Mace via pbs wrote: > > Paige wrote: > >> Anyone have sources of information to suggest? > > Paige, I think one source of data would be iNaturalist.org. You can select a > species or genus, choose a section of the map, and look at how many photos > were posted in that part of the map in each year. There have been a lot of > Lilium sightings in northern California this year, but I do not know how it > compares to other years. > > Here's an example of what you can do. Follow the link below and croll the > list on the right side of the window to see the dates on the flower reports. > > https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?nelat=38.46895423097922&nelng=-122. > 56739939114924&place_id=any&subview=map&swlat=38.17266526111745&swlng=-123.3 > 7970102689142&taxon_id=48928 > > If your email system breaks that link into several lines, you will need to > remove the line breaks to restore the link. > > Mike > San Jose, CA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: James Waddick via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:31:31 -0500 Dear P. It has been years since I vaguely thought about PCNs and you are in the midst. Surely you have a better educated guess than I do. Wish I could grow I munzii. Does nay one still t ry with success. ? No useful pictures in the messages. Are you seeing declines in native lilies too? Climate woes. We are in the start of a 10 day(maybe longer) heat wave maybe up to 103 (feels like) and NO 0 ZERO - rain. We have no urge to garden in these temps. Weeds love it - of course. Any progress on the garden/estate ? Cool hugs J & J > On Jun 21, 2023, at 3:49 PM, Paige Woodward via pbs wrote: > > Hi, Jim. What species of Iris? Tenax, perhaps, or douglasiana? If you sent pictures, I can’t view them (boring, sorry). Paige > > >> On Jun 21, 2023, at 12:44 PM, Jim Benson via pbs wrote: >> >> From Brookings OR We have had a fine year of Coastal Iris blooming >> yellow, blue and violet along drive way under birch trees and mail >> boxes. Better this year than last as had more spring rain. >> >> -----------------------------------------From: "Paige Woodward via >> pbs" >> >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society PBS" >> Cc: "Paige Woodward" >> Sent: Tuesday June 20 2023 9:16:04PM >> Subject: [pbs] Lilies in the W US this year >> >> How are the wild lilies of the western US faring this year? Anyone >> been out hiking? Anyone have sources of information to suggest? >> >> Over on the Lilium list, friends reported that on brief forays in N >> California and S Oregon in the past couple of years, lilies were gone >> or far between at familiar sites, the terrain often clearcut (possibly >> for firebreaks) or otherwise devastated. >> >> Wild lilies bloom around now, if they’re going to. Several times >> during the past couple of decades there’ve been Lily Chases, in >> which small groups of worshipers visited wild lilies and photographed >> them, travelling in convoy through California, Oregon and Washington >> State. The sites were scouted in advance because every year is >> different. >> >> The past couple of years have been very different indeed, however. >> There won’t be a formal Lily Chase this summer. I wonder if >> there’ll ever be again. >> >> Paige Woodward >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> /> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum >> latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent >> /> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: oooOIOooo via pbs Subject: Agave bulliana (used to be Prochnyanthes mexicana) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:47:25 +0000 Dennis wrote, > I don't usually have problems germinating Agave seeds, but I imported a small portion of Agave bulliana from Germany and my first attempt (using the wet paper towel technique) failed. I only have a few seeds left. Can anyone suggest a technique? Does mechanical scarification help? Or is it likely that these seeds are just duds? I haven't grown this but I've been to similar habitat. It's not like what most people think of as a succulent desert Agave, rather more like a tuberose (which is also now called Agave.) Based on reported flowering periods it is possible some seed ripens while it is still raining, which begins approximately in early May, and some after rain is finished for the year, which is approximately early October. That means at least some seed would have a very long cool to slightly frosty and dry winter rest before the next growing season. I don't know how long it is viable, and you might not be able to find out when yours was harvested. But I would consider putting it dry into the refrigerator for a few months, then trying again with hot and moist conditions. Leo Martin Phoenix, Arizona, USA Zone 9? 10 the last few winters. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 22 Jun 2023 23:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: R Deutsch via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 23:14:52 +0000 Hi James, If you are including local weather, please mention where you live. Some of us are newbies and don't know names of anyone. Ray Deutsch American Canyon, CA ________________________________ From: pbs on behalf of James Waddick via pbs Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 2:31 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: James Waddick Subject: Re: [pbs] Lilies in the W US this year Dear P. It has been years since I vaguely thought about PCNs and you are in the midst. Surely you have a better educated guess than I do. Wish I could grow I munzii. Does nay one still t ry with success. ? No useful pictures in the messages. Are you seeing declines in native lilies too? Climate woes. We are in the start of a 10 day(maybe longer) heat wave maybe up to 103 (feels like) and NO 0 ZERO - rain. We have no urge to garden in these temps. Weeds love it - of course. Any progress on the garden/estate ? Cool hugs J & J > On Jun 21, 2023, at 3:49 PM, Paige Woodward via pbs wrote: > > Hi, Jim. What species of Iris? Tenax, perhaps, or douglasiana? If you sent pictures, I can’t view them (boring, sorry). Paige > > >> On Jun 21, 2023, at 12:44 PM, Jim Benson via pbs wrote: >> >> From Brookings OR We have had a fine year of Coastal Iris blooming >> yellow, blue and violet along drive way under birch trees and mail >> boxes. Better this year than last as had more spring rain. >> >> -----------------------------------------From: "Paige Woodward via >> pbs" >> >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society PBS" >> Cc: "Paige Woodward" >> Sent: Tuesday June 20 2023 9:16:04PM >> Subject: [pbs] Lilies in the W US this year >> >> How are the wild lilies of the western US faring this year? Anyone >> been out hiking? Anyone have sources of information to suggest? >> >> Over on the Lilium list, friends reported that on brief forays in N >> California and S Oregon in the past couple of years, lilies were gone >> or far between at familiar sites, the terrain often clearcut (possibly >> for firebreaks) or otherwise devastated. >> >> Wild lilies bloom around now, if they’re going to. Several times >> during the past couple of decades there’ve been Lily Chases, in >> which small groups of worshipers visited wild lilies and photographed >> them, travelling in convoy through California, Oregon and Washington >> State. The sites were scouted in advance because every year is >> different. >> >> The past couple of years have been very different indeed, however. >> There won’t be a formal Lily Chase this summer. I wonder if >> there’ll ever be again. >> >> Paige Woodward >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> /> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum >> latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent >> /> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 22 Jun 2023 22:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Shmuel Silinsky via pbs Subject: Agave bulliana (used to be Prochnyanthes mexicana) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 07:23:04 +0300 I have grown many species of Agave from seed and generally they need light to germinate so I don't cover them. Perhaps your seeds were in the dark and did not germinate. Also I have found that a broad swing in temperature between night and day is sometimes needed. You may want to ask the folks at agaveville.org who are my go to place for these kind of things. I know that bulliana is not a typical Agave, but maybe this will help. On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 7:45 PM Dennis Kramb via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I don't usually have problems germinating Agave seeds, but I imported a > small portion of Agave bulliana from Germany and my first attempt (using > the wet paper towel technique) failed. I only have a few seeds left. Can > anyone suggest a technique? Does mechanical scarification help? Or is it > likely that these seeds are just duds? > > Dennis in Cincinnati > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <2061A1CD-A19E-426A-A9F7-818B789C2D04@gmail.com> From: Kathleen Sayce via pbs Subject: Pacifica Iris (PCN) bloom this year Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:16:25 -0700 it’s been a pretty good year for native irises in the West. These plants tend to survive fire and clearcutting, flowering more in sunlight than in shade. Members of SPCNI have been circulating photos that show outstanding bloom in several areas. As another member suggested, iNaturalist is a good way to follow these showy species. Kathleen PNW coast, zone 8, on sand _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 23 Jun 2023 10:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <5142eab9-6ddc-430f-8c33-78ca4db53685@app.fastmail.com> From: Pamela Harlow via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:33:59 -0700 Mary Sue, I also have L. maritimum from seed you contributed, thriving in containers in a Seattle greenhouse that is allowed to drop to the mid-20's. I wonder if anyone has tried it outdoors in climates cooler than its native habitat. Seattle is in the middle of zone 8, briefly dropping into the mid teens every few years. Thank you for sending that seed in. The plants are just lovely. Pamela On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, at 11:24 AM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs wrote: > With rainfall this year more like it has been in the past Lilium > maritimum is having an outstanding year. I'm happy since it is > considered rare that it is reseeding and flowering in new places in my > garden. The logging companies do not allow people to walk on their > properties so I can't give a report on whether any are returning in > areas they have logged. > > Mary Sue > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Fri, 23 Jun 2023 10:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: stephen willson via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 16:46:53 +0000 Hello Pamela / Mary Sue, I too have grown your L. maritimum from seed that I obtained from a SX back in 2018. I'm in Bow, WA (about 70 miles north of Seattle). I have been growing them in pots in a frost-free greenhouse and they do very well. In 2021 I planted some in the ground in a bed where I grow other WNA species and hybrids and over the past two winters those outside have dwindled by about half (as have some of the other species). The bed they are in is quite well-drained, but we've had two successive winters where the temperatures have dropped into the teens for a week or so (cold air coming down the Fraser River). From this I think that zone 7/8 is about the coldest that maritimum can tolerate. Maybe cold and dry in the greenhouse is acceptable, but cold and wet/damp outside would appear to be a challenge. So maybe Seatle weather is about it's limit? I too would be interested to learn if anyone is growing this in a colder location, and if so, how they manage it. Best regards, Steve ________________________________ From: pbs on behalf of Pamela Harlow via pbs Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:33 AM To: pbs Cc: Pamela Harlow Subject: Re: [pbs] Lilies in the W US this year Mary Sue, I also have L. maritimum from seed you contributed, thriving in containers in a Seattle greenhouse that is allowed to drop to the mid-20's. I wonder if anyone has tried it outdoors in climates cooler than its native habitat. Seattle is in the middle of zone 8, briefly dropping into the mid teens every few years. Thank you for sending that seed in. The plants are just lovely. Pamela On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, at 11:24 AM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs wrote: > With rainfall this year more like it has been in the past Lilium > maritimum is having an outstanding year. I'm happy since it is > considered rare that it is reseeding and flowering in new places in my > garden. 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Some things are in short supply, but I hope to be able to accommodate everyone's wishes. When I post the list, I will advise of the items that I only have in ones or twos, so as not to disappoint anyone who responds. REMEMBER: DO NOT REPLY TO MY EMAIL when you make your requests. You must make the request in a *separate *email as several replies tend to make a thread I cannot follow and I have missed requests. For your requests to be logged in, you need to send me a new, separate email. I appreciate your understanding. Look for an email by *Saturday June 24, 10 p.m. EST (PA, USA)*. Thanks! Bridget _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 24 Jun 2023 18:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs Subject: some technical difficulties. BX 2023 491 Almost ready Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:08:04 -0400 Kindly give me a little bit to get the doc organized and uploaded. Probably an hour or so. Thanks for your understanding. Bridget _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 24 Jun 2023 19:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: some technical difficulties. BX 2023 491 Almost ready Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 18:21:58 -0700 I never do a seed exchange without some kind of technical difficulties. In solidarity, Jan > On Jun 24, 2023, at 6:08 PM, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs wrote: > > Kindly give me a little bit to get the doc organized and uploaded. > Probably an hour or so. > Thanks for your understanding. > Bridget > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 24 Jun 2023 19:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:08:33 -0400 All: Please read this post/email in its entirety prior to ordering so we will have no confusion for ordering and your boxes can get out to you much more quickly. It will make my job a little easier. Please. This BX will be open for orders until Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:00 p.m. PST Standard rules apply for this BX: Kindly review the list below and email me separately with your request(s) to bulbexpbs@gmail.com. Do not hit REPLY to this email. It creates a thread and I cannot assure I will be able to see all the requests. You need to send me an separate email. This will allow me to allocate items much more quickly. I will send a simple acknowledgement of your email. Should you not have a response from me within a day, please resend. *Be sure to include your full name and current address*. Bulbs are $3 each. Some of these are only one share and in short supply. This will be a lottery (however, if you did not receive something last round, kindly advise and I will try to assure some accommodation. Also, if there is something you really are looking to receive, it helps for me to know this as well.) You must be current in your membership and you must be up-to-date on BX/SX charges. If you are uncertain, feel free to check with Jane McGary or Arnold Trachtenberg. KINDLY NOTE: Orders must be paid for through the PBS website at: https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?page=BXpay Please be sure to reference the BX number above. *You are still free to send payment via check if that is your preference.* No orders to anywhere but the US and (sometimes) Canada can be entertained at this point. We cannot furnish the appropriate phyto docs to other countries. Thank you as always to our current donors. Be advised that any and all mistakes on spelling are likely mine. Additionally, I expect a couple additions to this list as I am waiting on a list from another donor I hope to receive prior to sending our allocated bulbs. 1 Albuca spiralis (small bulbs) *Chad Cox* 2 Albuca namaquensis *Mary Sue Ittner* 3 Cyrtanthus elatus x montanus 4 Gloxinella lindeniana 5 Oxalis engleriana 6 Oxalis hirta 7 Oxali hirta 'Gothenburg' 8 Oxalis hirta (mauve) 9 Oxalis livida 10 Oxalis luteola MV 5567 11 Oxalis luteola MV 6395 12 Oxalis melanosticta 'Ken Aslet' 13 Oxalis obtusa MV 5005a 14 Oxalis obtusa MV6235 15 Oxalis obtusa MV6341 16 Oxalis obtusa MV7085 17 Oxalis obtusa Peaches & Cream 18 Oxalis obtusa (pink) 19 Oxalis pardalis MV7632 20 Oxalis purpurea 'Skar' 21 Oxalis purpurea 'Lavender & White' 22 Tulipa clusiana 23 Tulipa clusiana var. chrysantha 24 Tulipa Darwin hybrids (mixed colors) 25 Tulipa linifolia 26 Tulipa linifolia (syn. Tulipa batalinii - yellow flowers) 27 Tulipa orphanidea 28 Tulipa Red Cup 29 Allium sp. China tall small mauves drumstick *Rimmer de Vries* 30 Bernardia japonica/ Scilla scillioides 31 Freesia laxa albomaculata (white and pink) 32 Geissorhiza aspera and heterostyly volunteers 33 Habranthus tubispathus 34 Haemanthus albiflos 35 Haemanthus albiflos 36 Haemanthus deforms 37 Hippeastrum papilio 38 Melasphaerula graminea 39 Ornithogalum hispidulum 40 Oxalis sp. 41 Pelargoniam ochroleucum (sec.Hoerea) 42 Pelargonium barkleyi (nice leaves) 43 Phaedranassa dubia 44 Sinningia tubiflora - garden dug in Nov 2022 and May 2023 45 unknown vol. Polyxena, massonia, etc 46 Narcissus hyb. ‘White Lady’ from R.A. Scamp 47 Pamianthe peruviana 48 Resnova megaphylla 49 Scilla madeirensis 50 Sinningia micans x bullata seedling- (first gen. hybrid? 51 Tritonia gladiolaris ‘orange’ ex Jim Duggan 52 Crinum *Mike Lowitz* 53 Eucrosia variabile 54 Nerine bowdenii 55 Amorphophallus pseudoharmandii 'Hot Legs' 56 Hippeastrum papilio small seedling bulbs *Robert Lauf* 57 Drimiopsis maculata 58 Ledebouria socialis normal form, clone 1 59 Ledebouria socialis normal form, clone 2 ex. Janet Dowlen 60 Ledebouria socialis 'Miner' a slender form ex. HBG 61 Ledebouria socialis 'Paucifolia' all green 62 Freesia laxa ssp laxa *Judy Wong* 63 Lachenalia mutabilis 64 Ixia, white with deep red black center 65 Babiana pygmaea (rare now in wild in South Africa) 66 Cyrtanthus falcatus *Fred Bisella* 67 Arum byzantinum ex Illahe *Robert Parks* 68 Arum concinnatum RP1 69 Arum concinnatum RP2 70 Arum concinnatum 'Suspeck' ex Plant Delights 71 Arum dioscoridis v. syriacum RP1 72 Arum dioscoridis v. syriacum RP2 73 Arum hygrophyllum 74 Arum X diotalicum 'Jet Black Wonder' ex Plant Delights 75 Biarum tenuifolium v. abbreviatum ex Illahe 76 Crocus sativus ex EasyToGrow 77 Dioscorea elephantipes 78 Gladiolus carmineus ex BX478/Judy Wong 79 Gladiolus equitans ex Dhannon 80 Gonatopus angustus 81 Ixia maculata 82 Ixia polystachya 'Baby Blue' 83 Lachenalia quadricolor 84 Lachenalia quadricolor 'Namaqua' ex Judy Wong/PBS 85 Oxalis flava (lavender form) ex Telos 86 Oxalis flava RP1 ex BX470/MIttner 87 Oxalis flava v. pectinaria ex Telos 88 Oxalis glabra ex Telos 89 Oxalis hirta RP1 ex Mittner/PBS 90 Oxalis hirta RP2 91 Oxalis imbricata ex BX476/Mittner 92 Oxalis massoniana ex Telos 93 Oxalis melanosticta 'Ken Aslet' 94 Oxalis morelosii ex DHannon 95 Oxalis namaquana RP1 probably same as RP2 96 Oxalis namaquana RP2 probably same as RP1 97 Oxalis pardalis MV7632 ex BX482/Mittner 98 Oxalis polyphylla 99 Oxalis polyphylla v. heptaphylla ex DHannon 100 Oxalis purpurea 'Rose Pink' 101 Oxalis purpurea 'Skar' ex BX467/Mittner 102 Oxalis sp. (aff. flava) 103 Oxalis tenuifolia 104 Oxalis versicolor RP1 105 Oxalis X 'Golden Cape' 106 Oxalis zeekoevleyensis ex BX474/Mittner 107 Sinningia tubiflora ex Telos 108 Sauromatum gianteum *Amy Olmsted* 109 Arisaema fargesii Thank you! Bridget Bulb Exchange Manager _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 24 Jun 2023 20:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 19:49:40 -0700 Hello Team, The crinum that I sent to Bridget are C. Variable. They are a shorter and tidy Crinum that come in shades of pink. The flower seems to deepen a bit as it matures. Very nicely scented. I apologize for not giving a better description to Bridget. Like most crinum they like water in San Diego this past winter they were evergreen. But typically go dormant. Mike On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 7:08 PM Bridget Wosczyna via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > All: Please read this post/email in its entirety prior to ordering so we > will > have no confusion for ordering and your boxes can get out to you much more > quickly. It will make my job a little easier. Please. > This BX will be open for orders until Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:00 p.m. > PST > > Standard rules apply for this BX: > > Kindly review the list below and email me separately with your request(s) > to bulbexpbs@gmail.com. Do not hit REPLY to this email. It creates a > thread and I cannot assure I will be able to see all the requests. You need > to send me an separate email. This will allow me to allocate items much > more quickly. > > I will send a simple acknowledgement of your email. Should you not > have a response > from me within a day, please resend. > > *Be sure to include your full name and current address*. > > Bulbs are $3 each. Some of these are only one share and in short supply. > > This will be a lottery (however, if you did not receive something last > round, kindly advise and I will try to assure some accommodation. Also, if > there is something you really are looking to receive, it helps for me to > know this as well.) > > You must be current in your membership and you must be up-to-date on BX/SX > charges. If you are uncertain, feel free to check with Jane McGary or > Arnold Trachtenberg. > > KINDLY NOTE: > > Orders must be paid for through the PBS website at: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?page=BXpay > > > Please be sure to reference the BX number above. > *You are still free to send payment via check if that is your preference.* > > No orders to anywhere but the US and (sometimes) Canada can be entertained > at this point. We cannot furnish the appropriate phyto docs to > other countries. > > Thank you as always to our current donors. Be advised that any and all > mistakes on spelling are likely mine. > > Additionally, I expect a couple additions to this list as I am waiting on a > list from another donor I hope to receive prior to sending our allocated > bulbs. > > 1 Albuca spiralis (small > bulbs) *Chad Cox* > > 2 Albuca namaquensis > *Mary Sue Ittner* > > 3 Cyrtanthus elatus x montanus > > 4 Gloxinella lindeniana > > 5 Oxalis engleriana > > 6 Oxalis hirta > > 7 Oxali hirta 'Gothenburg' > > 8 Oxalis hirta (mauve) > > 9 Oxalis livida > > 10 Oxalis luteola MV 5567 > > 11 Oxalis luteola MV 6395 > > 12 Oxalis melanosticta 'Ken Aslet' > > 13 Oxalis obtusa MV 5005a > > 14 Oxalis obtusa MV6235 > > 15 Oxalis obtusa MV6341 > > 16 Oxalis obtusa MV7085 > > 17 Oxalis obtusa Peaches & Cream > > 18 Oxalis obtusa (pink) > > 19 Oxalis pardalis MV7632 > > 20 Oxalis purpurea 'Skar' > > 21 Oxalis purpurea 'Lavender & White' > > 22 Tulipa clusiana > > 23 Tulipa clusiana var. chrysantha > > 24 Tulipa Darwin hybrids (mixed colors) > > 25 Tulipa linifolia > > 26 Tulipa linifolia (syn. Tulipa batalinii - yellow > flowers) > > 27 Tulipa orphanidea > > 28 Tulipa Red Cup > > 29 Allium sp. China tall small mauves drumstick *Rimmer > de Vries* > > 30 Bernardia japonica/ Scilla scillioides > > 31 Freesia laxa albomaculata (white and pink) > > 32 Geissorhiza aspera and heterostyly volunteers > > 33 Habranthus tubispathus > > 34 Haemanthus albiflos > > 35 Haemanthus albiflos > > 36 Haemanthus deforms > > 37 Hippeastrum papilio > > 38 Melasphaerula graminea > > 39 Ornithogalum hispidulum > > 40 Oxalis sp. > > 41 Pelargoniam ochroleucum (sec.Hoerea) > > 42 Pelargonium barkleyi (nice leaves) > > 43 Phaedranassa dubia > > 44 Sinningia tubiflora - garden dug in Nov 2022 and > May 2023 > > 45 unknown vol. Polyxena, massonia, etc > > 46 Narcissus hyb. ‘White Lady’ from R.A. Scamp > > 47 Pamianthe peruviana > > 48 Resnova megaphylla > > 49 Scilla madeirensis > > 50 Sinningia micans x bullata seedling- (first gen. > hybrid? > > 51 Tritonia gladiolaris ‘orange’ ex Jim Duggan > > 52 Crinum > *Mike Lowitz* > > 53 Eucrosia variabile > > 54 Nerine bowdenii > > 55 Amorphophallus pseudoharmandii 'Hot Legs' > > 56 Hippeastrum papilio small seedling bulbs > *Robert Lauf* > > 57 Drimiopsis maculata > > 58 Ledebouria socialis normal form, clone 1 > > 59 Ledebouria socialis normal form, clone 2 ex. Janet > Dowlen > > 60 Ledebouria socialis 'Miner' a slender form ex. HBG > > 61 Ledebouria socialis 'Paucifolia' all green > > 62 Freesia laxa ssp laxa > *Judy Wong* > > 63 Lachenalia mutabilis > > 64 Ixia, white with deep red black center > > 65 Babiana pygmaea (rare now in wild in South Africa) > > 66 Cyrtanthus falcatus > *Fred Bisella* > > 67 Arum byzantinum ex Illahe > *Robert Parks* > > 68 Arum concinnatum RP1 > > 69 Arum concinnatum RP2 > > 70 Arum concinnatum 'Suspeck' ex Plant Delights > > 71 Arum dioscoridis v. syriacum RP1 > > 72 Arum dioscoridis v. syriacum RP2 > > 73 Arum hygrophyllum > > 74 Arum X diotalicum 'Jet Black Wonder' ex Plant Delights > > 75 Biarum tenuifolium v. abbreviatum ex Illahe > > 76 Crocus sativus ex EasyToGrow > > 77 Dioscorea elephantipes > > 78 Gladiolus carmineus ex BX478/Judy Wong > > 79 Gladiolus equitans ex Dhannon > > 80 Gonatopus angustus > > 81 Ixia maculata > > 82 Ixia polystachya 'Baby Blue' > > 83 Lachenalia quadricolor > > 84 Lachenalia quadricolor 'Namaqua' ex Judy Wong/PBS > > 85 Oxalis flava (lavender form) ex Telos > > 86 Oxalis flava RP1 ex BX470/MIttner > > 87 Oxalis flava v. pectinaria ex Telos > > 88 Oxalis glabra ex Telos > > 89 Oxalis hirta RP1 ex Mittner/PBS > > 90 Oxalis hirta RP2 > > 91 Oxalis imbricata ex BX476/Mittner > > 92 Oxalis massoniana ex Telos > > 93 Oxalis melanosticta 'Ken Aslet' > > 94 Oxalis morelosii ex DHannon > > 95 Oxalis namaquana RP1 probably same as RP2 > > 96 Oxalis namaquana RP2 probably same as RP1 > > 97 Oxalis pardalis MV7632 ex BX482/Mittner > > 98 Oxalis polyphylla > > 99 Oxalis polyphylla v. heptaphylla ex DHannon > > 100 Oxalis purpurea 'Rose Pink' > > 101 Oxalis purpurea 'Skar' ex BX467/Mittner > > 102 Oxalis sp. (aff. flava) > > 103 Oxalis tenuifolia > > 104 Oxalis versicolor RP1 > > 105 Oxalis X 'Golden Cape' > > 106 Oxalis zeekoevleyensis ex BX474/Mittner > > 107 Sinningia tubiflora ex Telos > > 108 Sauromatum gianteum *Amy Olmsted* > > 109 Arisaema fargesii > > > > Thank you! > Bridget > > Bulb Exchange Manager > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 24 Jun 2023 20:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <5f59ae55-5cef-018c-f766-ecd8bb827a66@earthlink.net> From: Eugene Zielinski via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 03:05:26 +0000 And I suspect that #53 Eucrosia variabile should be Eucrosia mirabile. Eugene Zielinski Prescott Valley, Arizona USA -----Original Message----- From: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Jun 24, 2023 7:50 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Mike , Bridget Wosczyna Subject: Re: [pbs] BX2023 491 OPEN Hello Team, The crinum that I sent to Bridget are C. Variable. They are a shorter and tidy Crinum that come in shades of pink. The flower seems to deepen a bit as it matures. Very nicely scented. I apologize for not giving a better description to Bridget. Like most crinum they like water in San Diego this past winter they were evergreen. But typically go dormant. Mike On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 7:08 PM Bridget Wosczyna via pbs wrote: > All: Please read this post/email in its entirety prior to ordering so we > will > have no confusion for ordering and your boxes can get out to you much more > quickly. It will make my job a little easier. Please. > This BX will be open for orders until Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:00 p.m. > PST > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Robert Parks via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:52:32 -0700 The Crocus is in fairly vast quantities...in my climate the large bulbs reformed into a multitude of smaller bulbs. On Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 8:05 PM Eugene Zielinski via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > And I suspect that #53 Eucrosia variabile should be Eucrosia mirabile. > > Eugene Zielinski > Prescott Valley, Arizona > USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pacific Bulb Society > Sent: Jun 24, 2023 7:50 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: Mike , Bridget Wosczyna > Subject: Re: [pbs] BX2023 491 OPEN > > Hello Team, > > > The crinum that I sent to Bridget are C. Variable. They are a shorter and > tidy Crinum that come in shades of pink. The flower seems to deepen a bit > as it matures. Very nicely scented. I apologize for not giving a better > description to Bridget. Like most crinum they like water in San Diego this > past winter they were evergreen. But typically go dormant. > > Mike > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 7:08 PM Bridget Wosczyna via pbs wrote: > > > All: Please read this post/email in its entirety prior to ordering so we > > will > > have no confusion for ordering and your boxes can get out to you much > more > > quickly. It will make my job a little easier. Please. > > This BX will be open for orders until Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:00 > p.m. > > PST > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Mike via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2023 22:58:19 -0700 Hello Eugene, Thanks for catching that, Yes # 53 should read Eucrosia Miribilis - these are some bulbs of yellow form seeds that are in their first short dormancy. Two year old bulbs. Easy growing South American Amaryllid. Definitely a flower that looks drempt up by Dr Seuss for one of his books . Mike On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 8:05 PM Eugene Zielinski via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > And I suspect that #53 Eucrosia variabile should be Eucrosia mirabile. > > Eugene Zielinski > Prescott Valley, Arizona > USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pacific Bulb Society > Sent: Jun 24, 2023 7:50 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Cc: Mike , Bridget Wosczyna > Subject: Re: [pbs] BX2023 491 OPEN > > Hello Team, > > > The crinum that I sent to Bridget are C. Variable. They are a shorter and > tidy Crinum that come in shades of pink. The flower seems to deepen a bit > as it matures. Very nicely scented. I apologize for not giving a better > description to Bridget. Like most crinum they like water in San Diego this > past winter they were evergreen. But typically go dormant. > > Mike > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 7:08 PM Bridget Wosczyna via pbs wrote: > > > All: Please read this post/email in its entirety prior to ordering so we > > will > > have no confusion for ordering and your boxes can get out to you much > more > > quickly. It will make my job a little easier. Please. > > This BX will be open for orders until Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:00 > p.m. > > PST > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 09:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <1BB8B22C-F42E-47A9-A3D4-3BA0F2689DC8@comcast.net> From: Rimmer de Vries via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 10:28:13 -0500 Item 48 Resnova megaphylla are one year seedlings in growth. Two pots of seedlings were sent to the BX to be unpotted and mailed in damp towel on the distribution. These seedlings are well spotted forms with bright purplish-pink flowers originally collected in Tonteldoos, Limpopo. They should bloom in 3-4 years if kept happy; moist in summer growth, dry when dormant when it is not warm out. Item 49 the mad scilla are 3 large bulbs from Longfield gardens in 2014 that have not bloomed in a while, better culture is needed. Rimmer > 48 Resnova megaphylla > > 49 Scilla madeirensis _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 09:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:55:16 -0400 And here they are > On Jun 25, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Rimmer de Vries via pbs wrote: > > Item 48 Resnova megaphylla are one year seedlings in growth. Two pots of seedlings were sent to the BX to be unpotted and mailed in damp towel on the distribution. > > These seedlings are well spotted forms with bright purplish-pink flowers originally collected in Tonteldoos, Limpopo. They should bloom in 3-4 years if kept happy; moist in summer growth, dry when dormant when it is not warm out. > > Item 49 the mad scilla are 3 large bulbs from Longfield gardens in 2014 that have not bloomed in a while, better culture is needed. > > Rimmer > >> 48 Resnova megaphylla >> >> 49 Scilla madeirensis > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 10:17:01 -0700 Message-Id: <1202170308.4808789.1687712100789@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Scilla maderensis is a winter grower, very sunny windowsill but preferably greenhouse.  When it starts to die back for summer, keep it TOTALLY DRY until fall and then damn little water going forward.  Mine go on the dry table of death at the west end of my carport where they get baked by some late afternoon sun and are shielded from any rain.  Don't even start watering too early when growth appears or many of the lower flower buds will abort.  This thing is as water wise as a cactus and can practically live on the humidity in the greenhouse. Bob   Zone 7 On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:55:36 AM EDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs wrote: And here they are > On Jun 25, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Rimmer de Vries via pbs wrote: > > Item 48 Resnova megaphylla are one year seedlings in growth. Two pots of seedlings were sent to the BX to be unpotted and mailed in damp towel on the distribution. > > These seedlings are well spotted forms with bright purplish-pink flowers originally collected in Tonteldoos, Limpopo. They should bloom in 3-4 years if kept happy; moist in summer growth, dry when dormant when it is not warm out.  > > Item 49 the mad scilla are 3 large bulbs from Longfield gardens in 2014 that have not bloomed in a while, better culture is needed. > > Rimmer > >> 48          Resnova              megaphylla >> >> 49          Scilla      madeirensis > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <1247244729.2682617.1687715943714@mail.yahoo.com> From: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 17:59:03 +0000 (UTC) I’ve kept my two Scilla maderensis in the basement bone dry and water very little when in growth. Reasoning is it originates on an arid volcanic island  Arnold  Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, June 25, 2023, 12:55 PM, Robert Lauf via pbs wrote: Scilla maderensis is a winter grower, very sunny windowsill but preferably greenhouse.  When it starts to die back for summer, keep it TOTALLY DRY until fall and then damn little water going forward.  Mine go on the dry table of death at the west end of my carport where they get baked by some late afternoon sun and are shielded from any rain.  Don't even start watering too early when growth appears or many of the lower flower buds will abort.  This thing is as water wise as a cactus and can practically live on the humidity in the greenhouse. Bob   Zone 7     On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:55:36 AM EDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs wrote:  And here they are > On Jun 25, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Rimmer de Vries via pbs wrote: > > Item 48 Resnova megaphylla are one year seedlings in growth. Two pots of seedlings were sent to the BX to be unpotted and mailed in damp towel on the distribution. > > These seedlings are well spotted forms with bright purplish-pink flowers originally collected in Tonteldoos, Limpopo. They should bloom in 3-4 years if kept happy; moist in summer growth, dry when dormant when it is not warm out.  > > Item 49 the mad scilla are 3 large bulbs from Longfield gardens in 2014 that have not bloomed in a while, better culture is needed. > > Rimmer > >> 48          Resnova              megaphylla >> >> 49          Scilla      madeirensis > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent   _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:10:19 -0700 It must be "mirabilis," not "miribilis." These reported anomalies (in a list I was asked to proofread, I admit in shame) emphasize the need not to copy handwritten labels for plant names. I should have noticed the wrong gender on "Eucrosia variabile," though all I noticed was that it had been written "variable." I usually google only the names that don't seem reasonable, but from now on I will double-check all of them, since I don't know the tropical bulbs. Donors do need to supply typed, not just handwritten, names on their bulbs -- and never use autocorrect along with botany, even if you fear you can't spell in English either. Jane McGary On 6/24/2023 10:58 PM, Mike via pbs wrote: > Hello Eugene, > > Thanks for catching that, > > Yes # 53 should read Eucrosia Miribilis - these are some bulbs of yellow > form seeds that are in their first short dormancy. Two year old bulbs. > > > Easy growing South American Amaryllid. Definitely a flower that looks > drempt up by Dr Seuss for one of his books . > > Mike > > > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 8:05 PM Eugene Zielinski via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> And I suspect that #53 Eucrosia variabile should be Eucrosia mirabile. >> >> Eugene Zielinski >> Prescott Valley, Arizona >> USA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pacific Bulb Society >> Sent: Jun 24, 2023 7:50 PM >> To: Pacific Bulb Society >> Cc: Mike , Bridget Wosczyna >> Subject: Re: [pbs] BX2023 491 OPEN >> >> Hello Team, >> >> >> The crinum that I sent to Bridget are C. Variable. They are a shorter and >> tidy Crinum that come in shades of pink. The flower seems to deepen a bit >> as it matures. Very nicely scented. I apologize for not giving a better >> description to Bridget. Like most crinum they like water in San Diego this >> past winter they were evergreen. But typically go dormant. >> >> Mike >> >> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 7:08 PM Bridget Wosczyna via pbs wrote: >> >>> All: Please read this post/email in its entirety prior to ordering so we >>> will >>> have no confusion for ordering and your boxes can get out to you much >> more >>> quickly. It will make my job a little easier. Please. >>> This BX will be open for orders until Thursday, June 29, 2023 at 9:00 >> p.m. >>> PST >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs >> Unsubscribe: >> PBS Forum latest: >> https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 12:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Robert Parks via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:18:24 -0700 If practical, email a list when sending in donations. It doesn't prevent mistakes, but it does save transcribing handwriting. Today, more work on the "sunhouse", a covered space on a shed roof allowing for elevated temperatures so bulbs that need a warm dormancy will grow and bloom after a cool humid San Francsico summer. Robert On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 10:59 AM Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > I’ve kept my two Scilla maderensis in the basement bone dry and water very > little when in growth. Reasoning is it originates on an arid volcanic > island > Arnold > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Sunday, June 25, 2023, 12:55 PM, Robert Lauf via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Scilla maderensis is a winter grower, very sunny windowsill but > preferably greenhouse. When it starts to die back for summer, keep it > TOTALLY DRY until fall and then damn little water going forward. Mine go > on the dry table of death at the west end of my carport where they get > baked by some late afternoon sun and are shielded from any rain. Don't > even start watering too early when growth appears or many of the lower > flower buds will abort. This thing is as water wise as a cactus and can > practically live on the humidity in the greenhouse. > Bob Zone 7 > On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 11:55:36 AM EDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > And here they are > > > > On Jun 25, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Rimmer de Vries via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > Item 48 Resnova megaphylla are one year seedlings in growth. Two pots > of seedlings were sent to the BX to be unpotted and mailed in damp towel on > the distribution. > > > > These seedlings are well spotted forms with bright purplish-pink flowers > originally collected in Tonteldoos, Limpopo. They should bloom in 3-4 years > if kept happy; moist in summer growth, dry when dormant when it is not warm > out. > > > > Item 49 the mad scilla are 3 large bulbs from Longfield gardens in 2014 > that have not bloomed in a while, better culture is needed. > > > > Rimmer > > > >> 48 Resnova megaphylla > >> > >> 49 Scilla madeirensis > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > > Unsubscribe: > > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: From: Jane McGary via pbs Subject: BX2023 491 OPEN Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:22:15 -0700 Apparently Bob's method works for his Scilla madeirensis (I did google that, and it's spelled that way now, apparently), but I would not set a pot of bulbs where it would be hit by afternoon sun, for fear the pot would heat up too much. I wish the English writers had never used the word "bake" in connection with bulb cultivation. My collection gets sun all day, but the pots are plunged in sand, and those that are left out of the plunge because they are young are in a shaded place. I don't have a greenhouse, only a Mediterranean house, which is just a solid, transparent roof, so most of the bulbs offered on the BX can't be grown here. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA On 6/25/2023 9:55 AM, Robert Lauf via pbs wrote: > Scilla maderensis is a winter grower, very sunny windowsill but preferably greenhouse.  When it starts to die back for summer, keep it TOTALLY DRY until fall and then damn little water going forward.  Mine go on the dry table of death at the west end of my carport where they get baked by some late afternoon sun and are shielded from any rain.  Don't even start watering too early when growth appears or many of the lower flower buds will abort.  This thing is as water wise as a cactus and can practically live on the humidity in the greenhouse. > Bob   Zone 7 > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 12:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <9F5D82A0-4BFF-4A02-B836-FE93E594DEC7@waterwisegardener.com> From: Nan Sterman via pbs Subject: Perennial Watsonia? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 11:24:38 -0700 I have been growing Watsonia in my north San Diego County garden for decades. In the last couple of years, one clump is behaving distinctly differently from the others. This clump has not gone dormant for at least three years. And while the others are all fully past bloom and on their way towards dormancy, this one is just starting its show! Last year it didnt bloom at all. I havent ever heard of an evergreen watsonia nor seen one that blooms this late. Any thoughts on what this may be or what is going on? (Photos attached i hope they gonthrough) Nan Sent from my eye eye phone. All typos are the captain’s fault. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sun, 25 Jun 2023 12:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Gordon H via pbs Subject: Lilies in the W US this year Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2023 12:07:07 -0700 I have grown Lilium maritimum outdoors near Duvall, WA, just east of Seattle. We're mostly zone 8, with occasional cold down just slightly below 10 F. They have survived and persisted for about five years in raised beds on a sloping terrain, with underlying sandy or gravelly loam soil that drains well. They tend to be rather small plants and remain so, which puts them somewhat at risk of being overtaken by nearby plants in a competitve garden bed, so they are probably best grown in their own container or bed. On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:47 AM stephen willson via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Hello Pamela / Mary Sue, > > I too have grown your L. maritimum from seed that I obtained from a SX > back in 2018. I'm in Bow, WA (about 70 miles north of Seattle). I have > been growing them in pots in a frost-free greenhouse and they do very > well. In 2021 I planted some in the ground in a bed where I grow other WNA > species and hybrids and over the past two winters those outside have > dwindled by about half (as have some of the other species). The bed they > are in is quite well-drained, but we've had two successive winters where > the temperatures have dropped into the teens for a week or so (cold air > coming down the Fraser River). From this I think that zone 7/8 is about > the coldest that maritimum can tolerate. Maybe cold and dry in the > greenhouse is acceptable, but cold and wet/damp outside would appear to be > a challenge. So maybe Seatle weather is about it's limit? I too would be > interested to learn if anyone is growing this in a colder location, and if > so, how they manage it. > > Best regards, > > Steve > ________________________________ > From: pbs on behalf of Pamela > Harlow via pbs > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:33 AM > To: pbs > Cc: Pamela Harlow > Subject: Re: [pbs] Lilies in the W US this year > > Mary Sue, > > I also have L. maritimum from seed you contributed, thriving in containers > in a Seattle greenhouse that is allowed to drop to the mid-20's. I wonder > if anyone has tried it outdoors in climates cooler than its native habitat. > Seattle is in the middle of zone 8, briefly dropping into the mid teens > every few years. > > Thank you for sending that seed in. The plants are just lovely. > > Pamela > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, at 11:24 AM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs wrote: > > With rainfall this year more like it has been in the past Lilium > > maritimum is having an outstanding year. I'm happy since it is > > considered rare that it is reseeding and flowering in new places in my > > garden. 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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 05:43:26 +0000 Hello Nan. Different Watsonia species are native to the winter and summer rainfall areas of South Africa. Watsonia pillansii comes to mind as a summer growing species. Some of the summer growing species can be evergreen (and some can withstand frost/freezing conditions/snow -- shouldn't be a problem in the San Diego area though.) Incidentally, the pictures didn't come through on email, but they can be viewed on the Forum. Eugene Zielinski Prescott Valley, Arizona (where we do get frosts/freezing conditions/snow -- Zone 7) USA -----Original Message----- From: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Jun 25, 2023 11:25 AM To: Cc: Nan Sterman Subject: [pbs] Perennial Watsonia? I have been growing Watsonia in my north San Diego County garden for decades. In the last couple of years, one clump is behaving distinctly differently from the others. This clump has not gone dormant for at least three years. And while the others are all fully past bloom and on their way towards dormancy, this one is just starting its show! Last year it didnt bloom at all. I havent ever heard of an evergreen watsonia nor seen one that blooms this late. Any thoughts on what this may be or what is going on? (Photos attached i hope they gonthrough) Nan Sent from my eye eye phone. All typos are the captain’s fault. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs Subject: Growing Scilla madeirensis Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:48:00 +0100  Dear All, Reading the growing instructions for Scilla madeirensis I feel somewhat alarmed because this does not at all reflect my experience with this bulb. It must be very adaptable….. Scilla madeirensis comes from the island of Madeira and grows at medium elevations. Madeira has a Mediterranean Climate but of a soft version being surrounded by warm Atlantic water year round (it sits in the Gulf Stream, I did snorkeling in pleasantly warm water in November) As the island has high mountains it always receives condensation from its cloud cap. But that is higher up than the Scilla grows. However, the medium and high elevations never go as dry as they would in a typical Mediterranean summer. I agree with Jane that the word baking may be appropriate in the thing the English call „summer“ but certainly not in warmer or Mediterranean Climates. My bulbs receive summer water (not much but they do) and are exposed to the winter rain in half shaded areas. They do not tolerate any frost. Madeira is lush and green except in the lower south facing slopes. And Scilla madeirensis grows in these lush places. It is poorly setting seed and threatened in its native habitat but grows in many gardens in Madeira. There is a closely related species, Scilla latifolia which comes from the Canary Islands (The Madeiran and the Canary Archipelago are considered as a botanical entity called Macaronesia). Scilla latifolia comes from a slightly drier habitat, is easier to grow and sets abundant seed, maybe the two got mixed up at some stage. But Scilla latifolia does not like „baking“ either. Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <785299908.5292563.1687803216669@mail.yahoo.com> From: Robert Lauf via pbs Subject: Growing Scilla madeirensis Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:13:36 +0000 (UTC) I will try to collect photos of the exact setup I have over the course of summer/fall so folks can see exactly what the plants see. In summer they are shaded most of the day but late afternoon sun does come into the carport for maybe a few hours.  The pots are typically shaded a bit by larger pots of Urginea maritima, so the plastic pots themselves are not exposed to long periods of direct sunlight.  But summer in E. Tenn can be quite hot and if I had to spend the day on that bench I'd sure feel like I was baking.  There are also pots of dormant Lachenalias in the same area and they also get no water until fall.  The bulbs are planted in a mix of promix and perlite, which I find works well with most of my bulbs given the rest of my environment, the cool greenhouse in winter, etc.  I suspect someone growing in the home would need to apply more water in winter to compensate for the lower humidity vs a greenhouse. As with the orchids I've grown for 40 years, I never tell anyone "You must do this" or "you can't do that".  Instead, I am happy to relate what works for me, which is completely dependent on my greenhouse or climate, my potting mix and cultivation practices, my watering setup, etc.  All are interrelated so anyone must take this advice as a starting point to be modified as needed for their particular setting.  As I like to say, I give my orchids way too much light and way too much heat but make up for it by giving them way too much water.  I use coco husk chunks and it all works.  If I used bark, the medium would be mud after about one season. Last year I took Arnold's advice and was very sparing with the water when the S. mad first began to sprout, and my blooms improved.  So I can't argue with that!  But I repeat that everyone's situation is different. Bob   Zone 7 with 5" of rain in the last week.  The amphibians have been enjoying nonstop orgies but I need to post a lifeguard by my bird bath. On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 01:48:08 PM EDT, Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs wrote: Dear All, Reading the growing instructions for Scilla madeirensis I feel somewhat alarmed because this does not at all reflect my experience with this bulb. It must be very adaptable….. Scilla madeirensis comes from the island of Madeira and grows at medium elevations. Madeira has a Mediterranean Climate but of a soft version being surrounded by warm Atlantic water year round (it sits in the Gulf Stream, I did snorkeling in pleasantly warm water in November) As the island has high mountains it always receives condensation from its cloud cap. But that is higher up than the Scilla grows. However, the medium and high elevations never go as dry as they would in a typical Mediterranean summer. I agree with Jane that the word baking may be appropriate in the thing the English call „summer“ but certainly not in warmer or Mediterranean Climates. My bulbs receive summer water (not much but they do) and are exposed to the winter rain in half shaded areas. They do not tolerate any frost. Madeira is lush and green except in the lower south facing slopes. And Scilla madeirensis grows in these lush places. It is poorly setting seed and threatened in its native habitat but grows in many gardens in Madeira. There is a closely related species, Scilla latifolia which comes from the Canary Islands (The Madeiran and the Canary Archipelago are considered as a botanical entity called Macaronesia). Scilla latifolia comes from a slightly drier habitat, is easier to grow and sets abundant seed, maybe the two got mixed up at some stage. But Scilla latifolia does not like „baking“ either. Uli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 26 Jun 2023 16:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <91E11412-8AFB-4AEC-B4BD-E6C9DDBC0CC1@pacbell.net> From: Lee Poulsen via pbs Subject: Growing Scilla madeirensis Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:31:22 -0700 Uli’s details are what I have suspected for some time about plants from those Spanish and Portuguese Atlantic islands. What I’ve mostly realizes is that they’re spoiled. It must not ever freeze there and it also never gets very hot. I have found that even a little bit of frost “burns” the leaves of S. madeirensis. Also, they take forever to go dormant. Mine are still full of leaves. But they are finally starting to look like they are turning yellow. Once they go dormant, I put them in outside storage, but in full shade, so they experience Southern California summer air temperatures. The bulbs have gotten larger and larger every year. The bulbs almost don’t fit in the 1 gal. pots (6 inch/15 cm diameter) I started them in. They are surprisingly easy for me, only needing water in winter and the first half of spring if it doesn’t rain enough. Now I get multiple scapes every year --Lee Poulsen San Gabriel Valley, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 340 ft/100 m > On Jun 26, 2023, at 11:13, Robert Lauf via pbs wrote: > > I will try to collect photos of the exact setup I have over the course of summer/fall so folks can see exactly what the plants see. > In summer they are shaded most of the day but late afternoon sun does come into the carport for maybe a few hours. The pots are typically shaded a bit by larger pots of Urginea maritima, so the plastic pots themselves are not exposed to long periods of direct sunlight. But summer in E. Tenn can be quite hot and if I had to spend the day on that bench I'd sure feel like I was baking. There are also pots of dormant Lachenalias in the same area and they also get no water until fall. The bulbs are planted in a mix of promix and perlite, which I find works well with most of my bulbs given the rest of my environment, the cool greenhouse in winter, etc. I suspect someone growing in the home would need to apply more water in winter to compensate for the lower humidity vs a greenhouse. > As with the orchids I've grown for 40 years, I never tell anyone "You must do this" or "you can't do that". Instead, I am happy to relate what works for me, which is completely dependent on my greenhouse or climate, my potting mix and cultivation practices, my watering setup, etc. All are interrelated so anyone must take this advice as a starting point to be modified as needed for their particular setting. As I like to say, I give my orchids way too much light and way too much heat but make up for it by giving them way too much water. I use coco husk chunks and it all works. If I used bark, the medium would be mud after about one season. > Last year I took Arnold's advice and was very sparing with the water when the S. mad first began to sprout, and my blooms improved. So I can't argue with that! But I repeat that everyone's situation is different. > Bob Zone 7 with 5" of rain in the last week. The amphibians have been enjoying nonstop orgies but I need to post a lifeguard by my bird bath. > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 01:48:08 PM EDT, Johannes-Ulrich Urban via pbs wrote: > > > Dear All, > > Reading the growing instructions for Scilla madeirensis I feel somewhat alarmed because this does not at all reflect my experience with this bulb. It must be very adaptable….. > Scilla madeirensis comes from the island of Madeira and grows at medium elevations. Madeira has a Mediterranean Climate but of a soft version being surrounded by warm Atlantic water year round (it sits in the Gulf Stream, I did snorkeling in pleasantly warm water in November) As the island has high mountains it always receives condensation from its cloud cap. But that is higher up than the Scilla grows. However, the medium and high elevations never go as dry as they would in a typical Mediterranean summer. > I agree with Jane that the word baking may be appropriate in the thing the English call „summer“ but certainly not in warmer or Mediterranean Climates. My bulbs receive summer water (not much but they do) and are exposed to the winter rain in half shaded areas. They do not tolerate any frost. Madeira is lush and green except in the lower south facing slopes. And Scilla madeirensis grows in these lush places. It is poorly setting seed and threatened in its native habitat but grows in many gardens in Madeira. There is a closely related species, Scilla latifolia which comes from the Canary Islands (The Madeiran and the Canary Archipelago are considered as a botanical entity called Macaronesia). Scilla latifolia comes from a slightly drier habitat, is easier to grow and sets abundant seed, maybe the two got mixed up at some stage. But Scilla latifolia does not like „baking“ either. > > Uli > > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Mon, 26 Jun 2023 22:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs Subject: Addendum to BX2023 491 ENDS THURSDAY 6/29/23 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 23:32:22 -0400 Hi everyone: I have some additions to the BX below. Feel free to add to your order if you wish. From *James Shao* 110 Ferraria divaricata arenicola ex Telos 111 Ferraria crispa nortieri ex Telos 112 Ferraria crispa B ex Telos 113 Ferraria crispa dark ex Telos 114 Ixia polystachya 115 Stenomesson pearcei ex UC Berkeley 116 Gladiolus alatus ex J. Heinrich 117 Gladiolus sp. 'Lemon Moon' 118 Gladiolus carneus 'Painted Lady' 119 Hermodactylus tuberosus *Mary Sue Ittner * 120 Oxalis Bifurca Thanks, Bridget _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Tue, 27 Jun 2023 07:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <1501213384.310172.1687872632109@mail.yahoo.com> From: Wylie Young via pbs Subject: Growing Scilla madeirensis Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Being in the other group of islands in Macronesia, although the north end of it, Scilla madeirensis and other plants from Madeira are easy to grow in the Azores (Echium can get invasive). It rarely gets below 10°C - maybe one or 2 nights in winter, and 27°C is the upper limit although Madeira will get a couple of degrees warmer. I don't hide anything in the shade, so all my dormant bulbs get full sun and rain in the summer months. We are also having a lot of pollutants in the air right now from the fires in Canada.Wylie  _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 29 Jun 2023 09:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <000701d9aaa4$730d24e0$59276ea0$@hansennursery.com> From: Hansen Nursery via pbs Subject: samples for phylogenetic analysis -academic request Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 09:12:05 -0700 I'm including below a request from a professor at Bonn University Botanic Garden in Germany, on the off-chance someone can help him. Robin Hansen PBS Dear Sirs, we are currently working on a order-level moleculara phylogeny of Asparagales, trying to recolve historical biogeography and relationsship. We have been able to source material from most genera across the globe, but have a few sad sampling gaps especially in the southern/southwestern US. Everytime I google for the taxa, I hit the pages of PBS. So, I can´t help wondering whether there might not be some collection holdes who would be prepared to help us complete our sampling and elucidate the evolution of this fascinating group of plants. We are particulaly looking for (ideally vouchered) leaf samples of:Pseudogaltonia, Androstephium, Jaimehintonia gypsophila, Dandya purpusii, Triteleiopsis palmeri, Xochiquetzallia, Hooveria, Schoenolirion, Eremocrinum, Diuranthera, Trihesperus, Diamena stenantha, Diora cajamarcaensis, Hemiphylacus. Any chance you can help us contact somebody who might help with one or the other species? I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely Max Prof. Dr. Maximilian Weigend Director, Bonn University Botanic Gardens, Germany -- Pacific Bulb Society web site email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 29 Jun 2023 12:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: Lee Poulsen via pbs Subject: samples for phylogenetic analysis -academic request Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:51:10 -0700 Wow, there’s some in there I would love to get myself. Like Androstephium, Jaimehintonia gypsophila, Dandya purpusii. But the latter two are from Mexico, and there doesn’t seem to be as much hobbyist plant growing or exploring down there as in the rest of North America, or even in South America. A lot of the plant explorers of Mexico (many from Texas) have gotten older or passed away and don’t do it any more. I’ve seen Schoenolirion wrightii growing at the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center in Austin Texas. I once bought some seeds of one of the Androstephium species from rareplants.eu, but they never germinated for me. --Lee Poulsen San Gabriel Valley, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 340 ft/100 m > On Jun 29, 2023, at 09:12, Hansen Nursery via pbs wrote: > > I'm including below a request from a professor at Bonn University Botanic Garden in Germany, on the off-chance someone can help him. > > Robin Hansen > PBS > > > Dear Sirs, > > we are currently working on a order-level moleculara phylogeny of Asparagales, trying to recolve historical biogeography and relationsship. We have been able to source material from most genera across the globe, but have a few sad sampling gaps especially in the southern/southwestern US. Everytime I google for the taxa, I hit the pages of PBS. So, I can´t help wondering whether there might not be some collection holdes who would be prepared to help us complete our sampling and elucidate the evolution of this fascinating group of plants. We are particulaly looking for (ideally vouchered) leaf samples of:Pseudogaltonia, Androstephium, Jaimehintonia gypsophila, Dandya purpusii, Triteleiopsis palmeri, Xochiquetzallia, Hooveria, Schoenolirion, Eremocrinum, Diuranthera, Trihesperus, Diamena stenantha, Diora cajamarcaensis, Hemiphylacus. Any chance you can help us contact somebody who might help with one or the other species? > > I am looking forward to hearing from you. > > Sincerely > Max > > Prof. Dr. Maximilian Weigend > Director, Bonn University Botanic Gardens, Germany > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 29 Jun 2023 13:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <8A406C0B-C4B5-48BC-9A22-75D26919E573@gmail.com> From: Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Subject: samples for phylogenetic analysis -academic request Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 12:35:42 -0700 Robin, you might include his email so people can respond to him directly. Jan > On Jun 29, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Hansen Nursery via pbs wrote: > > I'm including below a request from a professor at Bonn University Botanic Garden in Germany, on the off-chance someone can help him. > > Robin Hansen > PBS > > > Dear Sirs, > > we are currently working on a order-level moleculara phylogeny of Asparagales, trying to recolve historical biogeography and relationsship. We have been able to source material from most genera across the globe, but have a few sad sampling gaps especially in the southern/southwestern US. Everytime I google for the taxa, I hit the pages of PBS. So, I can´t help wondering whether there might not be some collection holdes who would be prepared to help us complete our sampling and elucidate the evolution of this fascinating group of plants. We are particulaly looking for (ideally vouchered) leaf samples of:Pseudogaltonia, Androstephium, Jaimehintonia gypsophila, Dandya purpusii, Triteleiopsis palmeri, Xochiquetzallia, Hooveria, Schoenolirion, Eremocrinum, Diuranthera, Trihesperus, Diamena stenantha, Diora cajamarcaensis, Hemiphylacus. Any chance you can help us contact somebody who might help with one or the other species? > > I am looking forward to hearing from you. > > Sincerely > Max > > Prof. Dr. Maximilian Weigend > Director, Bonn University Botanic Gardens, Germany > > -- > Pacific Bulb Society web site > email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent From pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Thu, 29 Jun 2023 15:17:02 -0700 Message-Id: <001b01d9aad1$f785fb20$e691f160$@hansennursery.com> From: R Hansen via pbs Subject: samples for phylogenetic analysis -academic request Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:37:48 -0700 Sorry, I thought his email went when I forwarded but here it is. 'Maximilian Weigend' Robin Hansen -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of Jan Jeddeloh via pbs Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 12:36 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Cc: Jan Jeddeloh; Hansen Nursery Subject: Re: [pbs] samples for phylogenetic analysis -academic request Robin, you might include his email so people can respond to him directly. Jan > On Jun 29, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Hansen Nursery via pbs wrote: > > I'm including below a request from a professor at Bonn University Botanic Garden in Germany, on the off-chance someone can help him. > > Robin Hansen > PBS > > > Dear Sirs, > > we are currently working on a order-level moleculara phylogeny of Asparagales, trying to recolve historical biogeography and relationsship. We have been able to source material from most genera across the globe, but have a few sad sampling gaps especially in the southern/southwestern US. Everytime I google for the taxa, I hit the pages of PBS. So, I can´t help wondering whether there might not be some collection holdes who would be prepared to help us complete our sampling and elucidate the evolution of this fascinating group of plants. We are particulaly looking for (ideally vouchered) leaf samples of:Pseudogaltonia, Androstephium, Jaimehintonia gypsophila, Dandya purpusii, Triteleiopsis palmeri, Xochiquetzallia, Hooveria, Schoenolirion, Eremocrinum, Diuranthera, Trihesperus, Diamena stenantha, Diora cajamarcaensis, Hemiphylacus. Any chance you can help us contact somebody who might help with one or the other species? > > I am looking forward to hearing from you. > > Sincerely > Max > > Prof. Dr. Maximilian Weigend > Director, Bonn University Botanic Gardens, Germany > > -- > Pacific Bulb Society web site > email: website@pacificbulbsociety.org > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pbs Unsubscribe: PBS Forum latest:https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php?action=recent