Thank you Bridget and Robert, I will put all the winter growers to bed as well . Greetings Ottoline > On May 20, 2025, at 5:00 AM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. SA group order ? (Ottoline Clapham) > 2. Re: SA group order ? (Bridget Wosczyna) > 3. Re: SA group order ? (Robert Lauf) > 4. Re: SA group order ? (xyzhou25@aol.com) > 5. Re: SA group order ? (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 6. Clarification on Group Order (Robert Lauf) > 7. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Nan Sterman) > 8. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Christine Doud) > 9. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Arnold Trachtenberg) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 08:37:53 -0700 > From: Ottoline Clapham <ottoline_clapham@yahoo.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <9DDE3A8B-A9DD-4525-959E-A2CD375D147E@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . > Ottoline > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 11:46:25 -0400 > From: Bridget Wosczyna <fritchick@gmail.com> > To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Ottoline Clapham <ottoline_clapham@yahoo.com>, > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <361837B3-6398-4BFB-89FE-14A8B51E6BA0@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello! I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be planted or potted immediately. > It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc. > Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants. > Best of > Bridget > >> On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. >> Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . >> Ottoline >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum https://… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 15:58:47 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <1603609018.2164707.1747670327063@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I emphatically agree.? Plant everything now!? Put the winter growers in a well-draining medium; small things should be planted with the tip just at soil level, whereas larger things generally should be partially exposed.? The culture tags should make this clear in individual cases. > After planting the winter growers, I give them one watering just to settle them in, then no more deliberate watering until they sprout in the fall.? But be aware that they might do some root growth in the meanwhile, which is why they should be planted.? Mine are in the dry corner of the greenhouse (out of reach of the auto misters) so they get no watering but do enjoy a bit of humidity while dormant. > I have ordered from SA Bulb four times in the past and so far almost everything established well and have grown fabulously since (to the point that I have seeds to share in the SX from time to time). > Good luck. > Bob? ?Zone 7 w more rain moving in > On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 11:46:52 AM EDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be planted or potted immediately. > It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc. > Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants. > Best of > Bridget > >> On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. >> Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . >> Ottoline >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum https://… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum https://… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 16:46:28 +0000 (UTC) > From: "xyzhou25@aol.com" <xyzhou25@aol.com> > To: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <1336740225.2181935.1747673188354@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Good morning Bridget, > Just following up when the bulbs from SA will ship?? > Thank you!Zeon > On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 08:46:52 AM PDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be planted or potted immediately. > It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc. > Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants. > Best of > Bridget > >> On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. >> Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . >> Ottoline >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum https://… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum https://… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 17:20:40 +0000 (UTC) > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <1283031446.1204.1747675240021@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Zeon et al: > The order was too large for one box. A large box moves us into another category so the order was split. The second box is scheduled in?this?week to the jfk area. It will be shipped after inspection to Bridget who will distribute to those who ordered? > Many of the first box folks??have already received their bulbs.? > We had everyone pay for their order so we could send the funds to SA.? > Lots of folks did a great deal of work on these orders. Bob Lauf deserves a big shoutout for his contributions and chasing down some very bureaucratic people in the system.???? > We also had our Euro cousins place an order that?Uli and Martin coordinated.? > Enjoy the bounty and hopefully we will see the seeds of this project being donated to the SX in the future.? > Arnold? > > > > > > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Monday, May 19, 2025, 12:46 PM, xyzhou25--- via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Good morning Bridget, > Just following up when the bulbs from SA will ship?? > Thank you!Zeon > ? ? On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 08:46:52 AM PDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:? > > Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be planted or potted immediately. > It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc. > Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants. > Best of > Bridget > >> On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. >> Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . >> Ottoline >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum https://… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum https://… > ? > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum https://… > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 03:12:25 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order > Message-ID: <638599388.2446419.1747710745363@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group.? That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit.? So I asked Leigh to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the possible genera.? The culture cards on the bags show a particular species but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an assortment. > Sorry for any confusion. > The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane.? I have no rational explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and that's saying something.? Leigh and I hope we can get through this without one of us having a stroke.? So please bear with us. > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 20:21:00 -0700 > From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@waterwisegardener.com> > To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net>, Bulb Society Pacific > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order > Message-ID: > <31D60B07-E6B5-403E-A869-DD6FD11E8D81@waterwisegardener.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ?Nincompoopery!? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group. That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit. So I asked Leigh to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the possible genera. The culture cards on the bags show a particular species but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an assortment. >> Sorry for any confusion. >> The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane. I have no rational explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and that's saying something. Leigh and I hope we can get through this without one of us having a stroke. So please bear with us. >> Bob >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum https://… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 23:31:57 -0700 > From: Christine Doud <christinedoud@shasta.com> > To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order > Message-ID: <16B5ECCB-89F3-4433-A285-55F26D1504E9@shasta.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks for the explanation of the 50 bulb pack. I?m glad that we will have some variety. That?s what I hoped for. > > I have a tiny question. Many of the bulbs have started to send up greenery in the packets. So I did as advised - plant and water and put in the shade. But it?s likely they will continue to sprout and grow now - in or off season of course. Any advice in how I proceed given the sprouting? They are all planted in moistened well draining soil in pots just below the surface. > Thanks. > > What is ORNL? > Christine > >> On May 19, 2025, at 8:21?PM, Nan Sterman via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ??Nincompoopery!? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>> ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group. That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit. So I asked Leigh to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the possible genera. The culture cards on the bags show a particular species but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an assortment. >>> Sorry for any confusion. >>> The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane. I have no rational explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and that's saying something. Leigh and I hope we can get through this without one of us having a stroke. So please bear with us. >>> Bob >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> PBS Forum https://… >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum https://… >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 11:36:52 +0000 (UTC) > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order > Message-ID: <1591214718.1352610.1747741012605@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Oak Ridge National Lab > Arnold > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Tuesday, May 20, 2025, 2:32 AM, Christine Doud via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation of the 50 bulb pack. I?m glad that we will have some variety. That?s what I hoped for. > > I have a tiny question. Many of the bulbs have started to send up greenery in the packets. So I did as advised - plant and water and put in the shade. But it?s likely they will continue to sprout and grow now - in or off season of course. Any advice in how I proceed given the sprouting?? They are all planted in moistened well draining soil in pots just below the surface. > Thanks. > > What is ORNL?? > Christine > >> On May 19, 2025, at 8:21?PM, Nan Sterman via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ??Nincompoopery!?? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>> ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group.? That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit.? So I asked Leigh to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the possible genera.? The culture cards on the bags show a particular species but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an assortment. >>> Sorry for any confusion. >>> The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane.? I have no rational explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and that's saying something.? Leigh and I hope we can get through this without one of us having a stroke.? 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