My two cents: I am not currently a member of PBS, though I have been in the past. I have donated to the SBC even though I have never asked anything from it. The point is that PBS, especially from my point of view, is an incredibly valuable resource. The website / Wiki are amazing and extremely useful. I have seen other plant oriented groups, in particular one dealing with succulents, that devolved into pointless arguments and offensive comments back and forth until the site was ultimately destroyed. I dearly do not want that to happen here so please, as an outsider, I hope everyone takes all comments as helpful suggestions and not personal attacks. May the love of geophytes be the ruling motives and may PBS continue to be a wonderful organization into the future. On Tue, Aug 8, 2023, 3:50 PM Mike via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Hello All, > > Forming a nominating committee. Really in 2023. > > I frankly find it elitist and condescending. Also haven’t we had enough of > this back room politics ? No we need transparency., > > I have a much better idea to discuss. Janes committee should be focused on > building coherent job descriptions for each position. Typical duties and > responsibilities. The most important thing would be an annual review to > goals. > > Imagine understanding what the job was knowing how the job was going to be > measured and then deciding if you want to participate what a novel idea > > We have languished for 4 years in a limbo of ineffective governance why? > Because we still use a system designed to allow the original founders to > stay as long as they wanted and leave when they got bored. > > I will provide just one example of how poorly we are doing and have done. > > Let’s agree that the BX and SX have the role of generating income for the > group in fact should be the number one income generator. This is fact > > What is the percent of members who have made one donation to the BX/SX in > the last two years ? I can assure you its way below 1/2. > > So this is our life blood and yet, I rarely if ever hear anyone on the Exec > board other then the two hardest working people in PBS. Jan and Bridget. > They are not discussing it in the same way an executive should. This has > been one of the biggest blunders allowed to fester in PBS. Our primary > executive should have been the BX/SX biggest cheerleader period. Reminding > all what it does and encouraging everyone to participate. This never > happened. > Let’s go further down this rabbit hole. We have a few big hitters that > easily donate over half the products sold at our events….What has our > executive done that is immune to the will of the membership, only beholden > to a few who are also either out of touch, new or want to be president? > Not a very good group to govern and manage an executive is it. I have seem > some of these big fish actuallly antagonized by our executive team. > > What if they pack up and donate their time and amazing bulbs to other > groups….maybe its already happened? > > These are the members our next President should be close with. I hope our > next president makes it very clear we are all bound by the honorable common > sense rule to share..meaning provide and take. > > What should we do? The folks that donate. All of us should be noted in the > winter bulb garden in a Growers. Circle. > > The big hitters meaning the top 5 donors in each of the SX and BX should go > into the President Citcle. > > Isn’t that a simple and cost effective way to help solve a huge problem? > > It’s time for the whole executive structure to be scrapped. > > > > All of the members I’m acquainted with are very smart and busy people. I > have a feeling that if they could see job descriptions. They are all mature > enough to decide if they want to throw their hat in the ring. > > In fact in 2023, we need an executive comfortable with social media…so that > person will chose to participate on their own. We don’t need or want a > person who, own their accord is not aware they have the calling to > volunteer . > > > The nominating committee model is outdated smacks of cronyism and has no > place in the mgt of a bulb group in 2023. > > I expect a lively discussion, you should all be outraged that the group is > run this way. > > One last thought we have never had a shortage of volunteers we have had a > shortage of people willing to work under a bullying manager , as a good use > of their free time > > > > Respectfully > > > Michael Lowitz > > San Diego > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…