Dear All, When I was looking for the post to send John, I found that I had summarized two articles from Herbertia to give to the people who were getting bulbs from Bill in 1999. Since this is relevant to the present discussion I am repeating this now even though it will be a bit of duplication for those who might be interested. In the 1986 Herbertia in an article called "Notes on the Cultivation of South American Bulbous Plants" Jose Castillo (Alberto) also had pictures that are labeled as Ipheions. He states that it is not his intention to fuel the taxonomical controversy (although it seems the inclusion of the yellow flowered species in Nothoscordum is well founded.) "Cultivation includes giving the plants a summer dormancy in deep shade in hot summer climates like California and the Gulf States; there they should receive light waterings every ten days of so to prevent desiccation." He notes under I. sellowianum that "some clones make offsets difficult to separate from the mother bulb without danger." Under I. dialystemon he says, "almost extinct, this beautiful species offsets easily." In the 1993 Herbertia there is an article called "A Review of the Genus Nothoscordum in Cultivation" written by Thad Howard. He says that it a controversy that authorities cannot agree on. They have been Milla, Tristagma, Brodiaea, Nothoscordum, Ipheion, and Beauverdia. He prefers to put them in Nothoscordum and says in that article that Rosa Guaglianone champions them as Ipheion, while Pierefelice Ravenna regards them as Nothoscordum. N. dialystemon is described as producing basal offsets and as the rarest. To confuse us even more in this article he states that Ipheion sellowianum should be Nothoscordum felipponeii. He describes it as having a sweet, honey-like scent and large showy lemon-yellow flowers. He states that bulbs are never fully dormant, and must maintain live roots even while resting in summer. "They increase very slowly by offsets, so propagation is principally by seed. Unfortunately, they are self-incompatible and need to be pollinated by a different clone in order to set viable seed." In the article he further states that Nothoscordum sellowianum is not the same as Ipheion sellowianum and has white flowers. I have summarized this for those people who may not have that Herbertia, but the rest of you may want to read both articles. So Mark, since you got yours from Thad does that mean that the N. sellowianum you grow is white? Mary Sue