David, I wonder if all Gordon McNeil's plants are lost? His wife still lives on the property in South Africa and still grows clivias. Maybe she has some of his crinums too? Jim Shields in central Indiana (USA) At 08:55 AM 12/17/2003 +1100, David Sneddon wrote: >.............. >I note also there were some other crinums found along the river with >interesting reds to pinks. Gordon McNeil truely had some wonder plants, it >was a shame they were lost. > >If anyone has chobe river plants I'd be interested in seeing more pictures >privately or publicly posted. > >Regards, David. >mailto:mrgoldbear@yahoo.com > ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA Member of INTERNATIONAL CLIVIA CO-OP