Hello Group, It seems the Hippeastrum taxonomy has gotten me going... As for the H. puniceum v. haywardii, I think it lists as H. soratense. As for Amaryllis espiritensis, I believe it is now H. espiritense. While reviewing the IPNI and MOBOT Tropicos3, I believe some species, etc. have yet to be revised into Hippeastum and remain in Amaryllis. (OR the data base information has to be revised...) I think. I know Meerow et.al. did a paper concerning some Amaryllis > Hippeastrum a few years back and I need to get a copy of it. Armchair research like this makes me a bit "knurtz" with all the "I think" and "I believe" statements... Thank you German for the species recommendations. I am working on a hybridization project and collecting as much information as possible. I seem to be hitting a wall when it comes to finding the above two species. I am quite certain the plants where available at some time (under *some* name) but perhaps they have disappeared into oblivion. Be Well Michael Loos